Pure Prairie League's "Amy" vs. America's "Sister Golden Hair."

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So I heard "Amy" over the Muzak speakers in a drugstore the other day and actually stayed in the store to hear it all the way through. I'd forgotten what a fine, catchy bit of lite country rock it is.

In my view, it wipes the floor with "Sister Golden Hair."

But, y'know, de gustibus and all that.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I fuckin' hate "Amy", so I'm going with "Sister Golden Hair"....which also has finer harmonies.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

AMERICA BY A COUNTRY MILE

song is timeless

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link

btx, it's "Amie," not "Amy".

which makes the song even worse

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Don't get me wrong; I like "Sister Golden Hair" fine. But I had no idea it had such passionate defenders.

Has America vs. Bread been done?

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I think we did the 90s equivalent a while back (Gin Blossoms vs. Toad the Wet Sprocket)

The answer was equally obvious then too.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link

Amie

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"Amie." Love that song.

RS LaRue (RSLaRue), Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Both are fine, well-written country-pop songs. I think Amie is a little hookier and stickier, and has probably earned considerably more royalties over the years. I also vastly prefer Pure Prairie League to America on an oeuvre-to-oeuvre basis (I prefer almost anyone to America on an oeuvre-to-oeuvre basis). But I have to go with "Sister Goldenhair," because it has always been THE song associated in my mind with the girl I had a crush on (only partially and ambivalently reciprocated, alas) the summer I turned 18. Hard to beat that. I still can't hear it without melting a little, and 18 is a long way off for me.

Vornado, Thursday, 7 July 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus, "Sister Golden Hair"! What a great title.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

America's finest hour, though, is categorically "Ventura Highway".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link

mY GOD BRING ON TEH LOVE FOR AMERICA! "TINMAN"

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Thursday, 7 July 2005 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez; next thing you know, somebody's going to unreservedly praise "Horse with No Name."

Re: Pure Prairie League, ISTR that Paul Barrere later joined Little Feat, around the time of their brief flash of almost-returning-to-prominence in the late 80s. I think that at least one song that came out of that, "One Clear Moment," deserves another listen.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez; next thing you know, somebody's going to unreservedly praise "Horse with No Name."

The only song I can actually play on a guitar, not that I would subject anyone to that, mind you. I like to play it Ramones stylee (i.e. downstrummed and needlessly speedy).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link

i love all america...even "you can do magic". I also like Bread which is another queer thread altogether.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been known to play a little America in my time.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i've been known to play a little America in my time.

"The biggest wagon is the empty wagon is the noisiest.
The conestoga horse, Jefferson I think we're lost."

theophilus jones (theophilus), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

yo yo yo i was talking to mah holmez C-Money and we agree dat this is sum phat rappin yo word to the crew

GANGSTA ANDY PARTRIDGE, Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link

i always thought it was

"the consular horse" because of how it scans and the "Nero pie-tied" bit, but who knows. anyways these are both excellent songs, but "Sister Golden Hair" gets it for giving me goose bumps whenever I hear it, the "doo wop" rave up at the end especially

hipsters unite!, Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez; next thing you know, somebody's going to unreservedly praise "Horse with No Name."

Tell me Pure Praire League ever had a line as good as "the heat was hot" or "in the desert you can remember your name / 'coz there ain't no one for to give you no pain"

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

But Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man
That he didn't, didn't already have
And cause never was the reason for the evening
Or the tropic of Sir Galahad
So please believe in me
When I say I'm spinning round, round, round, round
Smoke glass stained bright colors
Image going down, down, down, down
Soapsud green like bubbles

david day (winslow), Thursday, 7 July 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Have always loved "Sister Golden Hair" but have not heard this other song - I will check it out.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 July 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I sorta hate "Tin Man".

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 7 July 2005 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Along the lines of "let's-make-like-a-drum-and-beat-it", a friend of mine had me doubled over once by saying, "Let's make like Pure Prairie League and start Bustin' Out!"

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 7 July 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Thank you for posting that lyric from "Tin Man". The scope of its incoherence is sort of impressive. I used to dislike that song because of its insipid melody and performance, but now I can dislike the lyrics, too.

Vornado, Thursday, 7 July 2005 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Amie...

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

but that doesn't mean, you ain't been on mind

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 8 July 2005 03:28 (eighteen years ago) link

America, "Sister Golden Hair" - The greatest George Harrison ripoff in history. Nice tasty slide guitar. (But I still prefer their greatest-Neil Young-ripoff-in history.)

Pure Prairie League - aren't they they guys who did "Jackie Blue"? [Nope: Ozark Mountain Daredevils.] Didn't recognize "Amie", the title or the song, at all.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 July 2005 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Randy Newman on "A Horse With No Name": "that song about that kid who thinks he's taken acid."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 8 July 2005 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link

ubiquitous on the radio ca. 1975 and still sucking out loud. destroy.
BOT' A YAS

m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 8 July 2005 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link

"Jackie Blue" is also great. Much better than "Amie," anyway.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Every single guitar player I ever knew played that "Amie" song. And the Floyd's "Wish You Were Here." So I hate them both. I guess I think America was somewhat better--they were obviously fake and horrible, but the records sound good. The power of the almighty major seventh chord. I'd just as soon hear Chris Spedding imitate the Band and Dylan on "Backwood Progression," a record I listened to last night. Not really that good, but interesting as an early symptom of what PPP and Amerika did. I prefer Bread--those are good records. And too, I just despise those band names of cities and the Wide Open Spaces of Neil Young's synapses. A bad era for music.

The Ozark Mountain Daredevils were better than either Pure League or America, I think. "Jackie Blue" and "If I Only Knew" are cool songs, totally weird synthetic folk music.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Sister Golden Hair, no question. Ventura Highway even better. Donkey Jaw, Riverside & Sandman I think I'll actually put on the turntable today if I remember.

Amie > Muskrat Love.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 8 July 2005 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link

"Amie" is one of my favorite '70s lite-rockers. "Sister Golden Hair" is too much like early Eagles for my taste, though I do like lots of America.

Thinking Fellers Union Local 242 used to cover "Jackie Blue." Gave me a whole new dimension of appreciation toward the song - especially the fucked-up way the verses and choruses are in different keys.

mike a, Friday, 8 July 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Jeez, I only mentioned "Jackie Blue" (fine song, yep) 'cause I heard it at work y/day and was reminded how much I hate those 3-word vaguely rural bandnames - The Ozarks shoulda foreseen the future and called themselves OMD instead.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 July 2005 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link

3-word vaguely rural bandnames
Black Oak Arkansas
Marshall Tucker Band
ummmmm .. what else ... drawing a blank.

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 8 July 2005 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link

3-word vaguely rural bandnames

Black Oak Arkansas
Marshall Tucker Band
ummmmm .. what else

Oak Ridge Boys
Tarbox Ramblers

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Friday, 8 July 2005 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Red Clay Ramblers
Nitty Gritty Dirtband
Z Z Top

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 8 July 2005 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I always get the Oak Ridge Boys and the Ozark Mountain Daredevils mixed up.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 8 July 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Amie.

Bustin' Out is a great country-rock record. Too bad Craig Fuller (singer) had to quit the band to devote more time to dodging the draft.

erklie, Friday, 8 July 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Am I going to have to be the one to namecheck Firefall on this thread? I say, Goddamn, girl, can't you see?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 8 July 2005 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I just remember how I expected anyone called the "Ozark Mountain Daredevils" to be some kind of biker-rock kings, and how "Jackie Blue" was anything but that.

I was also confused at how un-bluesy the Climax Blues Band were on "Couldn't Get It Right."

mike a, Friday, 8 July 2005 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Amie is way better. Especially the Wesley Willis cover of same.

David Goldstein (DaveG.), Saturday, 9 July 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

"Amie" by half a length. Better arrangement.

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 9 July 2005 16:08 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I just heard Amie again and it occurs to me that it pretty significantly "pays tribute to" the main acoustic riff from Devil In Disguise by the Flying Burrito Brothers. Coincidence?

dad a, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:02 (sixteen years ago) link

edd hurt OTM up-thread per usual.

I've always kind of given America a pass. Also, Bread is awesome.

will, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

(but "Horse With No Name" is utter dreck)

will, Monday, 15 October 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Bread is awesome.

Side 1 of the Best of Bread LP is flawless, and your nearest thrift store will probably sell you a copy for a quarter.

drench, Monday, 15 October 2007 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link

The first two Pure Prairie League albums, when Craig Fuller was the group's anchor, are just awesome.

QuantumNoise, Monday, 15 October 2007 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, so my second concert ever was America (Elton John was first)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

3-word vaguely rural bandnames
Black Oak Arkansas
Marshall Tucker Band
ummmmm .. what else ... drawing a blank.

I think the third name you are looking for is Atlanta Rhythm Section of "I am so in to you" fame. Notable for, among other things, having a big fat so "uncool looking he's cool" bass player.

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

I was also confused at how un-bluesy the Climax Blues Band were on "Couldn't Get It Right."

This is true but what a great song. Wish I could hear it right now.

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:21 (sixteen years ago) link

That song's great because anyone can sing it without hurting themselves.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

"Couldn't Get It Right," that is awesomely great! And I never thought about "Amie" in light of the Burritos' "Christine's Tune." Same progression. New live Burritos comin' out in early November, btw--live at SF's Avalon Ballroom in April '69. Sound pretty together, too, and do a good version of Johnny Bush's "Undo the Right"! How cool is that?

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 23:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I recently interviewed PPL's Craig Fuller. He said he was really digging the Burritos and the first Little Feat record just after leaving the Ultimate Prophecy. The Prophecy LP actually has some embryonic versions of PPL's "Angel" and one other tune.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 18 October 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

definitely Amie.

ian, Saturday, 25 April 2009 02:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"amy," if only for the chord under "while." the harmonies there are killer.

macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Saturday, 25 April 2009 03:19 (fourteen years ago) link

they are both great, but sgh, no doubt

iatee, Saturday, 25 April 2009 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Last time I heard "Amy," I was in a scary truck stop in the backwoods of Massachusetts, trying to stay nonchalant and calm surrounded by beardy 18-wheeler commanders while a friend of mine was riotously vomiting in the rancid men's room. Thus, I'm still sticking with "Sister Golden Hair."

Alex in NYC, Saturday, 25 April 2009 11:33 (fourteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

i will occasionally wake up with amie in my head and i know it's gonna be a good day. do these dudes have anything else worth hearing? i'm a big fan of this sound and feel like i've been scrapping the bottom of the barrel in terms of finding 'new' stuff but i've never run across anything of theirs but the one song.

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 19 January 2017 23:09 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

do these dudes have anything else worth hearing?

I'm just now diving into PPL and the first four (s/t thru If The Shoe Fits) are all v. delightful if maybe a little bit too polite west coast country rock. Amie is by no means an anomaly, but they do a bunch of different things.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link

I should clarify: Two Lane Highway and If The Shoe Fits are simply pleasant, but the absence of Craig Fuller is really felt.

But on the Craig Fuller front, I'm listening to the American Flyer albums from later in the 70s now and, while they're hit or miss, his songs are fineā€”and how weird is it that he ended up in a band with Doug Yule with an album produced by George Martin?

Johnny Fever, Monday, 19 March 2018 00:33 (six years ago) link


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