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MARTIN SCORSESE DIRECTING FIRST FEATURE-LENGTH FILM BIOGRAPHY OF BOB DYLAN TO PREMIERE THIS SEPTEMBER
DOCUMENTARY PORTRAIT WILL AIR ON PBS'S AMERICAN MASTERS SERIES SEPTEMBER 26-27
PARAMOUNT HOME ENTERTAINMENT TO RELEASE DVD WITH EXTENSIVE BONUS FEATURES ONE WEEK PRIOR TO BROADCAST
Bob Dylan Fully Participates And Opens Archives For The Film, Which Features Previously Unreleased Footage From Dylan's Groundbreaking Live Concerts, Studio Recording Sessions, Outtakes, And Interviews
In an event that has brought together Bob Dylan and Martin Scorsese, two of America's most influential and revered cultural innovators, NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE, a co-production of Spitfire Pictures, Greywater Park, Thirteen/WNET New York, the BBC's Arena series, and Martin Scorsese's Sikelia Productions, in association with Vulcan Productions, will make its broadcast premiere on PBS's award-winning AMERICAN MASTERS series Monday and Tuesday, September 26-27 at 9 p.m. (ET) on PBS (check local listings). The series is a production of Thirteen/WNET New York. Paramount Home Entertainment will also release a DVD version of the documentary with extensive additional never-before-seen footage.
The two-part film, which focuses on the singer-songwriter's life and music from 1961-66, includes never-seen performance footage and interviews with artists and musicians whose lives intertwined with Dylan's during that time. For the first time on camera, Dylan talks openly and extensively about this critical period in his career detailing the journey from his birthplace in Hibbing, Minnesota, to Greenwich Village, New York, where he became the center of a musical and cultural upheaval whose effects are still felt today.
For the first time, The Bob Dylan Archives has made available rare treasures from its film, tape and stills collection, including footage from the 1963, 1964 and 1965 Newport Folk Festivals, previously unreleased outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's famed 1967 documentary Don't Look Back, and interviews with Allen Ginsberg, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Maria Muldauer, and many others. In anticipation of the film, members of Dylan's worldwide community of fans also contributed rarities from their own collections.
NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE comes on the heels of Dylan's best-selling memoir, Chronicles: Volume I, which spent months on The New York Times Top 10 non-fiction books list.
In addition to being the director of such highly acclaimed dramatic films as Raging Bull, Goodfellas and The Aviator, Scorsese is an avid chronicler of the history of American popular music. Most recently, he executive-produced the critically hailed music miniseries The Blues, which aired on PBS, as well as the related concert film Lightning in a Bottle, directed by Antoine Fuqua. Scorsese directed the seminal documentary The Last Waltz (1978), which captured the legendary farewell concert of The Band, and he served as an assistant director and editor on Woodstock (1970).
In discussing his excitement about the current project, Scorsese remarked, "I had been a great fan for many years when I had the privilege to film Bob Dylan for The Last Waltz. I've admired and enjoyed his many musical transformations. For me, there is no other musical artist who weaves his influences so densely to create something so personal and unique. This project gives me a chance to explore one of the most exciting artists and icons of the past 50 years."
Along with Scorsese, NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE is being individually produced by Jeff Rosen of Greywater Park, Nigel Sinclair of Spitfire, Anthony Wall of the BBC's Arena series, and Susan Lacy of Thirteen/WNET New York's AMERICAN MASTERS series, which has won the Emmy for Outstanding Primetime Non-Fiction Series five of the last six years.
"At a time when Dylan is exciting an entirely new fan base, he's speaking frankly about one of the most extraordinary periods in an extraordinary life," said Lacy, series creator and executive producer of AMERICAN MASTERS. "We're honored to be part of this story."
Added Spitfire's Sinclair: "Bob Dylan is a true cultural worldwide icon. This is the first time Bob has given this unprecedented access, which, coupled with Marty's outstanding filmmaking talents, should provide an unparalleled portrait of Dylan's indelible mark on the culture of the 20th century."
"This is history," said Wall, Arena series editor. "As Dylan's extraordinary career is building to another great peak, it's also a milestone for the BBC and PBS."
The film's soundtrack contains two CDs that capture the excitement of the music heard in the film. Comprised of all unreleased material, the CD set stands on its own as a vivid and sweeping collection of Bob Dylan performances from the early 1960s.
― shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.geocities.com/telephonepolesmusic
Thanks, Brian Hall.
― Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Do love 'New Morning,' though.
― I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 02:37 (eighteen years ago) link
I still wish Scorsese had done a documentary about the Clash instead of the Band. That blues concert doc he executive produced was not good.http://citypages.com/movies/detail.asp?MID=6341
― Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:46 (eighteen years ago) link
that said there is a very good reason for the "aura" around dylan - he's fucking good.
― swvl (vozick), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
why only until 1966? will it end with the motorcycle crash?
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I read that as 'porno' and then the world started making more sense.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Great concert footage, and the press conferences? Classic. "Why don't YOU suck on my glasses?"
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2005 12:51 (eighteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS4gsWDSn68
so psyched
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
Looks good
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link
It’s a short step from the limo to the gutter.
― TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link
https://youtu.be/iUD5snx-XOoI mean
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 7 June 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
Impressed that he remembers all those lyrics
― calstars, Friday, 7 June 2019 23:43 (four years ago) link
https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/rolling-thunder-revue-a-bob-dylan-story-by-martin-scorsese-review-1203237011/
We also have time to note the bits of documentary fakery that Scorsese has prankishly embedded in the movie: interviews with the film’s “original” director, and with Jack Tanner (Michael Murphy) from Robert Altman’s 1988 HBO series, not to mention a made-up subplot about Sharon Stone joining the tour as a teenage fan.
― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link
The film does not quite wish to tell you what it was like in any obvious way. There is something weird and mischievous going on. The concert footage and backstage scenes appear to be drawn from the same trove of archive material that formed the basis of Bob Dylan’s lengthy and ill-fated 1978 film about the tour, Renaldo and Clara, which he co-wrote with the late Sam Shepard – who is interviewed here. Like that film, the Rolling Thunder Revue does have some personae who may not be, strictly speaking, factual. The footage is attributed to a certain dyspeptic film-maker who is actually the performance artist and comedian Martin Von Haselberg, husband of Bette Midler. A certain politician is interviewed and you may think: “Wait, that guy looks like the actor Michael Murphy.” It is the actor Michael Murphy. Could it be that this is all a modern commedia dell’arte in which, with Scorsese’s discreet assistance, Dylan is retreating behind masks, masks that might allow him to tell a higher truth?Possibly. Scorsese drops further hints with clips from films concerned in various ways with theatrical performance: Georges Méliès’s The Vanishing Lady (1893), Marcel Carné’s Children of Paradise (1945) and Tony Gatlif’s Latcho Drom (1993). Sometimes the creative semi-remembering is a bit opaque, and there were times when I could have done with some more straightforward documentary realism. But it’s churlish to complain when this is all so gripping, both as a time capsule and as a showcase for Dylan’s unique presence and glorious performances from Baez, Mitchell and also from Patti Smith who was not actually a member of the Rolling Thunder tour but is shown performing before it got started.
Possibly. Scorsese drops further hints with clips from films concerned in various ways with theatrical performance: Georges Méliès’s The Vanishing Lady (1893), Marcel Carné’s Children of Paradise (1945) and Tony Gatlif’s Latcho Drom (1993). Sometimes the creative semi-remembering is a bit opaque, and there were times when I could have done with some more straightforward documentary realism. But it’s churlish to complain when this is all so gripping, both as a time capsule and as a showcase for Dylan’s unique presence and glorious performances from Baez, Mitchell and also from Patti Smith who was not actually a member of the Rolling Thunder tour but is shown performing before it got started.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/11/rolling-thunder-revue-a-bob-dylan-story-review-martin-scorsese
― d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
Marty takin his Spinal Tap image back from Rob Reiner
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
At the time Dylan said Children of Paradise influenced R&C.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:27 (four years ago) link
In this docu I think he now says he got the whiteface from Kiss. Enfants du Paradis does contain the lines of dialogue "You go your way and I'll go mine" and "Love is so simple"...to coin a phrase.
A few years ago I attended a screening of the only known complete print of Ranaldo and Clara in the UK - looking very pink in places, but perfectly watchable - and the guy who introduced it made the good point that R&C is the single project that Dylan has spent the most time on (it was a long time in the 'editing suite').
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
As a non-fan I thought the film was enlightening and the old footage fantastic. The "F For Fake"-y stuff pretty inessential, honestly. Joni Mitchell stole the show as far as I'm concerned.
― Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link
Halfway into this and gawd, it's dope as f.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:53 (four years ago) link
Question for those who've seen it from a Dylan agnostic: I'm interested to see this, but I've always found the "Dylan as ultimate trickster/liar" narrative to be really tedious. How annoying is the fakey stuff in this? I wanna see this famous band shred through a bunch of great Dylan songs, but I'm not trying to see a lot of Sharon Stone doing improv or whatever is going on there.
― One Eye Open, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
Dylan has the best bullshit detector of anyone on screen, and it's fun watching him endure the post-hippie twaddle that he himself endorsed because the revue was, after all, his idea.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link
Half hour into this and totally loving it. Also, holy shit, is that Mick Ronson playing guitar in his band?
― Darin, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link
yes!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
In Renaldo and Clara there's a scene where Mick Ronson won't let Ronnie Hawkins backstage. Hawkins says something like, "I don't care nothing about England or David Bouuuie or his lead guitar picker."
(I haven't seen it; that's from a friend quoting from memory.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link
Sloman's book is worth tracking down also, imho.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link
This was fantastic. Joni's performance of "Coyote" steals the film imo. Michael Murphy and Sharon Stone sequences egregiously unnecessary, Von Dorp stuff works better (possibly because the dude playing the role is more of an unknown). Patti Smith's performance is embarrassing, Joan Baez's onstage gyrations with McGuinn are hilariously awful. Dylan and the band get in a bunch of incredible performances, my favorite being the piano-led version of "Simple Twist of Fate" (which is sadly cut short, but followed by an awesome solo Dylan version). Dylan's interview responses are all gold.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:45 (four years ago) link
can't wait to see this
This was fantastic. Joni's performance of "Coyote" steals the film imo.
lol this will be the second classic rock film then
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
Dylan singing and playing while walking among a crowd at a native american reservation also pretty eye-popping
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
Watched this last night and don't have anything really original to add. But, fwiw: I loved it, basically, especially the gig at Lightfoot's and especially especially Joni (she nicks this, as she does The Last Waltz); also loved the bridge club and the gig at the reservation. I love all of the live stuff but probably the biggest revelation was Hattie Carrol - especially Ronson's incongruous gurning and soloing. Dylan's teeth give me the heebie-jeebies, as does his driving. I've always been pretty anti-Baez, finding her out of her depth, and vaguely feeling that Dylan is taking the piss out of her but she's a strong presence in this (dancing like she's auditioning for the Doors movie, aside) and I could have watched more of her. The 'fakery' doesn't really work as fake or as real so I'd jettison it altogether.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link
I said on another thread that I'd avoided the Revue period for vague reasons - partly because I had something closer to the self-congratulatory vaudeville cokefest of the Last Waltz in mind. Not that coke wasn't the driving force behind this but it was much lower-key than I'd imagined. As others have said, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Ginsberg and Bob Neuwirth doesn't exactly scream wild night on the tiles. This only makes the presence of Ronson and his hair even more incongruous. The low-key nature of it makes me think of the Basement Tapes if anything.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
yeah rewound the joni clip twice and then found it on youtube to share elsewhere. it's quite wonderful.
― thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link
btw i LOVED this
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 July 2019 03:02 (four years ago) link
Do you really think he drove the bus that often, aside from that clip?― TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, June 17, 2019 10:23 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink
I think he probably did, Bob's a pretty hands-on guy making cabinets and welding and whatnot, likes to sneak around doing "normal person" stuff
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
The greater my desire to rewatch this for the performances, the more disappointed I am that it will include pointless Spinal Tap business. Marty really shat the bed. I hate to imagine how much cool performance and candid footage was left on the floor in order to give "Tanner" time.
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link
xp Have you ever listened to that recording of AJ Weberman on the phone w/Dylan, and Dylan keeps trying to politely hang up by saying he's got a bunch of furniture to build?
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
that is the best
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
my favorite part of that tape:
AJ: Comin’ from somebody who wrote, that writes songs like you write, man.BD: Hey, man, who writes better songs than I do. Name me somebody.
AJ: I can name you a hundred fuckin’ people.BD:Oh come on. You can’t, you know you can’t.
AJ: Ah, let’s see. Creedence Clearwater.BD: Oh bullshit.
AJ: Gordon Lightfoot ain’t bad.BD: Yeah, he’s fine.
AJ: He writes good, he writes good songs. Let me see, there’s some cat, who uses a very, very, a lot of imagery just like ‘Tarantula’ — ah, Barbara Keefe.BD: Uh.
AJ: Ah . . . Ken Lauber.BD: Oh, he’s alright. Yeah, he’s very good.
AJ: Jack Elliot.BD: Jack doesn’t write songs.
AJ: John Lennon.BD: He’s improving.
AJ: George Harrison.BD: Hmmmm … Sure.
AJ: Jim McGuinn.BD: What????
AJ: Procol Harum, Keith Reid what’s his name.BD: Yeah, well, they’re swell.
AJ: How ’bout Grace Slick? Too political?BD:I don’t know, does she write stuff?
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
Bob otm re: all those ppl tbh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
(maybe not about Creedence)
At least he's heard of Ken Lauber, which is more than I have.
― How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
https://rockasteria.blogspot.com/2014/08/ken-lauber-contemplation-view-1970-us.html
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link
Perhaps of interest given ILM's collective obsession w John Wesley Harding:
I wrote, Contemplation (View), in my home up on Upper Byrdcliffe Mountain. In an unheated back room, a few dozen or so songs spilled out during the cold winter 1967. A subtle friendship began with Bob Dylan, who was also lived up on Byrdcliffe and was a neighbour. Bob was gracious enough, as often he is with other musicians, to invite me over to his home one day to listen to a test pressing of his new album, "Nashville Skyline." I loved it almost immediately We listened to all the tracks in silence. After, he asked me what I thought of it and I replied instantly, without thinking. "I like the spirit of it." Days later, I played him some of my new songs and he said I should go down to Nashville and record down there with some of the same musicians that played on "Nashville Skyline" and before that on the "John Wesley Harding," album. He spoke with authority and enthusiasm about how the Nashville musicians picked things up quickly and how their respect for lyrics, allowed the personality of the song to emerge clearly.
Good timing cannot be denied. At the same time, a friend, who liked my songs, introduced me to the head of the newly formed American record company, Polydor Records. I played him the new songs I had written and told him I wanted to record in Nashville. He liked the songs and the concept of recording them in Nashville and offered record contract. The record was recorded and mixed, at Wayne Moss's eight track garage studio, Cinderella Sound, in Madison Tennessee, with Gene Echelberger and Eliot Mazur as engineer and producer. Gene built Cinderella Sound with and for, the highly regarded and super talented guitarist and bass player supreme, Wayne Moss. The space was formerly a two car garage behind his Aunt Lucy's house. The line up of musicians was the following: the great Kenny Butrey on drums. The man of all instruments, Charlie McCoy on blues harp, bass and organ, the brilliantly melodic Weldon Myric. on pedal steel; a strong lead guitar soloist, Mac Gaydon, on electric guitar and the versatile and easy going Pete Wade on all the acoustic guitars.
dude's voice is terrible tho tbh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link
Oh right, he was his neighbour, no wonder he'd heard of him!
― How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
Weberman really pioneered the art of "negging."
― the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link
Hi. You'll need to forgive me for not reading through the whole of this thread but I have a question which I can't currently find a better place for.
Having watched this film, I am now obsessed with Hurricane and Isis, but am not sure where to go next with Dylan. I know the LPs 'Bob Dylan' and H61R, and a bit of Blood on the tracks, which I have, despite repeated efforts, never taken to. With Hurricane and Isis, I love their relentless structure as well as their lyrical complexity and detail. I also love Hurricane's clear-eyed political engagement and Isis's lengthy, personal and expansive surrealism.
If you have any recommendations for me, do please let me know.
― neilasimpson, Monday, 26 August 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I kinda had the same response, and I've mostly just fallen in love with the entirety of 'Desire' (though Joey is shit). Best track: Black Diamond Bay, which unfortunately he doesn't seem to have played live. On the other hand, it's used in James Benning's '11 x 14' to great effect. But I honestly can't really find anything that scratches the same itch. In my case, I think a lot of it has to do with the violin, though.
― Frederik B, Monday, 26 August 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
With Hurricane and Isis, I love their relentless structure as well as their lyrical complexity and detail. I also love Hurricane's clear-eyed political engagement and Isis's lengthy, personal and expansive surrealism.I mean, those qualities are present in much of Dylan’s work(!) I suggest Hard Rain, Street Legal, Planet Waves, Greatest Hits Vol. 2...
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
C’mon Street Legal is terrible
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
It's not terrible. I hear it as an amiable self-parody – mostly amiable, at any rate ("Baby Stop Crying" and "Is Your Love in Vain?" are not amiable). But it should be album #10 or #11 you stream/purchase.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
We’ve done this before (lol)
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link
though Joey is shitJoey is good
― tylerw, Monday, 26 August 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
Honestly a person could get Bootleg Series Vol. 1-3, plus the “Royal Albert Hall” bootleg, and have essential Dylan coverage even if they never go further.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
I like Joey but recently learned that Abandoned Love was dropped from Desire for Joey and obv that's five times better
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 August 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Desire with Abandoned Love in place of Joey would contend for greatest Dylan.
If it's the relentless structure and lyrical complexity and detail that grab you, maybe give Highway 61 Revisited a shot. It's got lots of those songs with many verses, and rocks a little harder than the other masterpieces of its era imo. Also search "Ballad of a Thin Man" and "It's Alright Ma" from Before the Flood, and "Changing of the Guard" from Street Legal.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 August 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
I love Joey, but “Let me feel your love one more time, before I abandon it” is on the shortlist of Dylan’s greatest kiss off lines.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 26 August 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
Amazing. Thank you all.
I know Highway 61 Revisited, and am totally with it. I'll check the other recommendations.
Just to check, are Hurricane and Isis anomalous in terms of Dylan's songwriting, or the way they are performed on record?
― neilasimpson, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link
They arent really anamolous, apart from the violin which is def an outlier
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
If Highway 61 clicks then you're ready for Blonde on Blonde and Bringing it all Back Home too.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Most his songs (after the early days) aren’t as “topical / issue-oriented” as Hurricane.
― Stub yr toe on the yacht rock (morrisp), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
Its a style he deploys intermittently throughout his discography. George Jackson might be the closest analog.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:47 (four years ago) link
Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll, Masters of War
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link
Some of the gospel period stuff, altho that often isnt v specific
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
So otm. I love Dylan and I’m positive I listen to these more than anything.
― Sam Weller, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link
I think there’s also some violin on Love and Theft, which you also might want to check out if you like the classic surrealist phase albums. The imagery is not quite as wild though there is a similarity of lyrical density.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
after Trouble No More I really have a hard time wanting to listen to the gospel records ever again
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
b/c the versions are so much better? I haven't heard it so I'm curious about that statement
― sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
yeah it's so hard and frenzied
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
The live versions of Gotta Serve Somebody are so much grimier and funkier
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
Fred Tackett is absolutely ham for Jesus on the six string
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link
the Trouble No More set definitely rendered those records kinda pointless
still going back to it more than anything else in the bootleg series
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
“Martin Scorsese Hasn’t Spoken to Bob Dylan in Twenty Years“
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/martin-scorsese-bob-dylan-922912/
― Peloton-gifting husband (morrisp), Friday, 6 December 2019 05:05 (four years ago) link
I'm assuming it's more like Bob Dylan hasn't spoken to Martin Scorsese in 20 years.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Friday, 6 December 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link
I’m a bit puzzled then by the interviews with Dylan in the movie. Was Scorsese not there for those?
― o. nate, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link
Apparently not!
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
I know that dylan’s archivist/manager interviewed bob for no direction home. That might be the case for the rolling thunder doc as well.
― tylerw, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
What he says is sort of hokey, and I hate crying in documentaries--Ginsberg stops just short--but one of the most moving things I can think of in any music documentary is his first appearance in No Direction Home, where he describes hearing "Hard Rain" for the first time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84bNaA-BV4Q
― clemenza, Monday, 28 December 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link
This may be the greatest thread that I have never seen before. For anyone curious about the original Renaldo and Clara, here's a pretty good detailed (but not too lengthy)description:https://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2012/02/renaldo-and-clara-can-this-marriage-be.htmlSome of the best bits in I'm Not There were inspired by R and C, esp. David Cross as Ginsberg and omg Cate Blanchett---BD said she should have played him in Masked and Anonymous at least)
― dow, Monday, 28 December 2020 03:32 (three years ago) link
Added some more from 2015, about "Hurricane," the way its writing etc. came across in the 70s and later, also how it comes across in R and C, and the amazing scene, if you can call it that, in which black citizens on the street get into a conversation about Ruben Carter, people who don't necessarily know each other, but they hear and respond. Reminds me a bit of the interviews after the concert in Don't Look Back, kids overhearing other kids being interviewed re Mr. D. (Also tried to improve the look of the whole thing as much as possible w that ancient template.)
― dow, Tuesday, 29 December 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link