Scorsese's movie about Dylan

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Anyone know when that's supposed to come out?

Nigel (Nigel), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

He has a movie? I thought it was Todd Haynes.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude, Todd Haynes (x-post)

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Joe Pesci as Dylan.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"Am I a clown? Do I amuse you? Is there some kinda way outta here?"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Everyone knows that Scorsese's next film is a superhero adaptation. Its all the rage.

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Well if you are gonna cast Beyonce as him, why not.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Scorsese's got a dylan doc in the works, Hayne's is a fictional work.

Another Allnighter (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The "soundtrack" to the movie is a double CD with all tunes unreleased from the period up to (and including) 1966. Yeah!

Dee Xtrovert (dee dee), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

scorsese is making a dylan DOCUMENTARY; haynes is making some kind of unclassifiable pomo dylan movie. i am more excited about the haynes movie. but i am excited about both.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link

oops someone mentioned this already.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm more excited about the documentary, myself; most old dylan footage is kinda hard to find.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

i have a copy of "eat the document". the footage is amazing, but unfortunately it's edited so as to cut off most songs after a few minutes or less.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm afraid Scorsese's going to be too reverent to really be interesting. Baby Boomers have trouble getting critical perspective on Dylan. But if it just has lots of cool archival footage, that'll be reason enough to see it.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

(Scorsese's is supposed to be on PBS in September, I think. Probably in the middle of a pledge drive.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

scorsese should outsource his eyebrows to pbs

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 28 June 2005 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

American Masters (2005 Season) - "No Direction Home: Bob Dylan - A Martin Scorsese Picture"




Bob Dylan Fully Participates And Opens Archives For The Film, Which Features Previously Unreleased Footage From Dylan's Groundbreaking Live Concerts, Studio Recording Sessions, Outtakes, And Interviews

In an event that has brought together Bob Dylan and Martin Scorsese, two of America's most influential and revered cultural innovators, NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE, a co-production of Spitfire Pictures, Greywater Park, Thirteen/WNET New York, the BBC's Arena series, and Martin Scorsese's Sikelia Productions, in association with Vulcan Productions, will make its broadcast premiere on PBS's award-winning AMERICAN MASTERS series Monday and Tuesday, September 26-27 at 9 p.m. (ET) on PBS (check local listings). The series is a production of Thirteen/WNET New York. Paramount Home Entertainment will also release a DVD version of the documentary with extensive additional never-before-seen footage.

The two-part film, which focuses on the singer-songwriter's life and music from 1961-66, includes never-seen performance footage and interviews with artists and musicians whose lives intertwined with Dylan's during that time. For the first time on camera, Dylan talks openly and extensively about this critical period in his career detailing the journey from his birthplace in Hibbing, Minnesota, to Greenwich Village, New York, where he became the center of a musical and cultural upheaval whose effects are still felt today.

For the first time, The Bob Dylan Archives has made available rare treasures from its film, tape and stills collection, including footage from the 1963, 1964 and 1965 Newport Folk Festivals, previously unreleased outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's famed 1967 documentary Don't Look Back, and interviews with Allen Ginsberg, Pete Seeger, Joan Baez, Maria Muldauer, and many others. In anticipation of the film, members of Dylan's worldwide community of fans also contributed rarities from their own collections.

NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE comes on the heels of Dylan's best-selling memoir, Chronicles: Volume I, which spent months on The New York Times Top 10 non-fiction books list.

In addition to being the director of such highly acclaimed dramatic films as Raging Bull, Goodfellas and The Aviator, Scorsese is an avid chronicler of the history of American popular music. Most recently, he executive-produced the critically hailed music miniseries The Blues, which aired on PBS, as well as the related concert film Lightning in a Bottle, directed by Antoine Fuqua. Scorsese directed the seminal documentary The Last Waltz (1978), which captured the legendary farewell concert of The Band, and he served as an assistant director and editor on Woodstock (1970).

In discussing his excitement about the current project, Scorsese remarked, "I had been a great fan for many years when I had the privilege to film Bob Dylan for The Last Waltz. I've admired and enjoyed his many musical transformations. For me, there is no other musical artist who weaves his influences so densely to create something so personal and unique. This project gives me a chance to explore one of the most exciting artists and icons of the past 50 years."

Along with Scorsese, NO DIRECTION HOME: BOB DYLAN - A MARTIN SCORSESE PICTURE is being individually produced by Jeff Rosen of Greywater Park, Nigel Sinclair of Spitfire, Anthony Wall of the BBC's Arena series, and Susan Lacy of Thirteen/WNET New York's AMERICAN MASTERS series, which has won the Emmy for Outstanding Primetime Non-Fiction Series five of the last six years.

"At a time when Dylan is exciting an entirely new fan base, he's speaking frankly about one of the most extraordinary periods in an extraordinary life," said Lacy, series creator and executive producer of AMERICAN MASTERS. "We're honored to be part of this story."

Added Spitfire's Sinclair: "Bob Dylan is a true cultural worldwide icon. This is the first time Bob has given this unprecedented access, which, coupled with Marty's outstanding filmmaking talents, should provide an unparalleled portrait of Dylan's indelible mark on the culture of the 20th century."

"This is history," said Wall, Arena series editor. "As Dylan's extraordinary career is building to another great peak, it's also a milestone for the BBC and PBS."

The film's soundtrack contains two CDs that capture the excitement of the music heard in the film. Comprised of all unreleased material, the CD set stands on its own as a vivid and sweeping collection of Bob Dylan performances from the early 1960s.

shookout (shookout), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

that's a long post

Thanks, Brian Hall.

Michael Costello (MichaelCostello1), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

It's probably (ironically) considered sacrilege to say so, but I really prefer Dylan through about '65 to all the long-winded "poetical" later stuff. The Bootleg Series vol. 1 & 2 rank high in my faves. So that soundtrack sounds great. . .

Do love 'New Morning,' though.

I.M. (I.M.), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

That living room tape from '60 at the Minnesota Historical Society really is awesome.

I still wish Scorsese had done a documentary about the Clash instead of the Band. That blues concert doc he executive produced was not good.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm totally with you on that I.M.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm really starting to fucking hate the whole "aura" around Dylan. WTF? Seven different actors? Is that supposed to somehow represent the immense unknowability of this genius of our time?

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:46 (fourteen years ago) link

dude wait until the movie comes out before you get all offended. haynes' casting choice seems likely as much to do with haynes' cracked-out brilliance as with any "aura" around dylan, just like all the hallucinatory weirdness and convoluted plot of "velvet goldmine" was as much about haynes' vision as bowie or iggy pop.

that said there is a very good reason for the "aura" around dylan - he's fucking good.

swvl (vozick), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i am totally excited about the haynes movie, and i hate dylan!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 03:57 (fourteen years ago) link

dude, don't shout it.

why only until 1966? will it end with the motorcycle crash?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:30 (fourteen years ago) link

i think dylan is very interesting as a personality.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i sort of want to read the autobiography, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:32 (fourteen years ago) link

unclassifiable pomo dylan

I read that as 'porno' and then the world started making more sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I've never been a Zimmy fanatic (my younger sister was), but I can't imagine a better visual document of his centrality to '60s music.

Great concert footage, and the press conferences? Classic. "Why don't YOU suck on my glasses?"

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 October 2005 12:51 (thirteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

so psyched

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 00:42 (two months ago) link

Looks good

calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 02:59 (two months ago) link

It’s a short step from the limo to the gutter.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 04:12 (two months ago) link

I mean

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 7 June 2019 23:30 (two months ago) link

Impressed that he remembers all those lyrics

calstars, Friday, 7 June 2019 23:43 (two months ago) link

We also have time to note the bits of documentary fakery that Scorsese has prankishly embedded in the movie: interviews with the film’s “original” director, and with Jack Tanner (Michael Murphy) from Robert Altman’s 1988 HBO series, not to mention a made-up subplot about Sharon Stone joining the tour as a teenage fan.

The fuck?

Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 03:46 (two months ago) link

The film does not quite wish to tell you what it was like in any obvious way. There is something weird and mischievous going on. The concert footage and backstage scenes appear to be drawn from the same trove of archive material that formed the basis of Bob Dylan’s lengthy and ill-fated 1978 film about the tour, Renaldo and Clara, which he co-wrote with the late Sam Shepard – who is interviewed here. Like that film, the Rolling Thunder Revue does have some personae who may not be, strictly speaking, factual. The footage is attributed to a certain dyspeptic film-maker who is actually the performance artist and comedian Martin Von Haselberg, husband of Bette Midler. A certain politician is interviewed and you may think: “Wait, that guy looks like the actor Michael Murphy.” It is the actor Michael Murphy. Could it be that this is all a modern commedia dell’arte in which, with Scorsese’s discreet assistance, Dylan is retreating behind masks, masks that might allow him to tell a higher truth?

Possibly. Scorsese drops further hints with clips from films concerned in various ways with theatrical performance: Georges Méliès’s The Vanishing Lady (1893), Marcel Carné’s Children of Paradise (1945) and Tony Gatlif’s Latcho Drom (1993). Sometimes the creative semi-remembering is a bit opaque, and there were times when I could have done with some more straightforward documentary realism. But it’s churlish to complain when this is all so gripping, both as a time capsule and as a showcase for Dylan’s unique presence and glorious performances from Baez, Mitchell and also from Patti Smith who was not actually a member of the Rolling Thunder tour but is shown performing before it got started.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:18 (two months ago) link

Marty takin his Spinal Tap image back from Rob Reiner

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:24 (two months ago) link

At the time Dylan said Children of Paradise influenced R&C.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 June 2019 19:27 (two months ago) link

In this docu I think he now says he got the whiteface from Kiss. Enfants du Paradis does contain the lines of dialogue "You go your way and I'll go mine" and "Love is so simple" coin a phrase.

A few years ago I attended a screening of the only known complete print of Ranaldo and Clara in the UK - looking very pink in places, but perfectly watchable - and the guy who introduced it made the good point that R&C is the single project that Dylan has spent the most time on (it was a long time in the 'editing suite').

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 11 June 2019 20:10 (two months ago) link

As a non-fan I thought the film was enlightening and the old footage fantastic. The "F For Fake"-y stuff pretty inessential, honestly. Joni Mitchell stole the show as far as I'm concerned.

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 10:14 (two months ago) link

Halfway into this and gawd, it's dope as f.

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 11:53 (two months ago) link

Question for those who've seen it from a Dylan agnostic: I'm interested to see this, but I've always found the "Dylan as ultimate trickster/liar" narrative to be really tedious. How annoying is the fakey stuff in this? I wanna see this famous band shred through a bunch of great Dylan songs, but I'm not trying to see a lot of Sharon Stone doing improv or whatever is going on there.

One Eye Open, Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:02 (two months ago) link

Dylan has the best bullshit detector of anyone on screen, and it's fun watching him endure the post-hippie twaddle that he himself endorsed because the revue was, after all, his idea.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:03 (two months ago) link

Half hour into this and totally loving it. Also, holy shit, is that Mick Ronson playing guitar in his band?

Darin, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:37 (two months ago) link


recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:38 (two months ago) link

In Renaldo and Clara there's a scene where Mick Ronson won't let Ronnie Hawkins backstage. Hawkins says something like, "I don't care nothing about England or David Bouuuie or his lead guitar picker."

(I haven't seen it; that's from a friend quoting from memory.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:22 (two months ago) link

Sloman's book is worth tracking down also, imho.

MaresNest, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:41 (two months ago) link

This was fantastic. Joni's performance of "Coyote" steals the film imo. Michael Murphy and Sharon Stone sequences egregiously unnecessary, Von Dorp stuff works better (possibly because the dude playing the role is more of an unknown). Patti Smith's performance is embarrassing, Joan Baez's onstage gyrations with McGuinn are hilariously awful. Dylan and the band get in a bunch of incredible performances, my favorite being the piano-led version of "Simple Twist of Fate" (which is sadly cut short, but followed by an awesome solo Dylan version). Dylan's interview responses are all gold.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:45 (two months ago) link

can't wait to see this

This was fantastic. Joni's performance of "Coyote" steals the film imo.

lol this will be the second classic rock film then

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:00 (two months ago) link

Dylan singing and playing while walking among a crowd at a native american reservation also pretty eye-popping

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 June 2019 16:01 (two months ago) link

Recently learned that Joan Baez gave him that nickname, I believe.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:39 (two months ago) link

Also google image search of Gerard Malanga is - surprise!- NSFW.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:40 (two months ago) link

Ratso has gone, out in disguise

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:56 (two months ago) link

Driving the bus, I walk the line.

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:57 (two months ago) link

I drove it for a little while,
I like to drive RVs

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 17:58 (two months ago) link


Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 18:55 (two months ago) link

S. Stone's story was annoying and ridiculous considering it's a fake and why did they bother making it up etc.
But if I had not known it was a fake I would have believed it was real (and still annoying !).

The filmmakaer, on the other hand, was so obviously fake to me. And also useless. But I suppose that's the idea !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 20 June 2019 08:34 (two months ago) link

Ronno has left, the Spiders from Mars
Allen G’s hat, has stripes and stars
I played guitar a little while
I love to pick for Bobby Z

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:59 (two months ago) link

/Rolling Thunderthighs Inevitably

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:15 (two months ago) link

Isis was incredible, I was hanging on every word there.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Thursday, 20 June 2019 23:16 (two months ago) link

i am 6 discs into the box set now (Harvard Square show is where i am up to iirc)

i am SO over “Hurricane” but conversely, cannot get enough of “Isis”

lively version of This Land Is Your Land closing out Harvard Sq was A+

live shows definitely more enjoyable than the rehearsal discs, but i am not a huge fan of rehearsal-listening in general

bob & joan singing together is magic, i love it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 June 2019 00:10 (two months ago) link

Something I read prompted me to include Ratso in the fakery, but I must have misread whatever it was.

clemenza, Saturday, 22 June 2019 19:47 (two months ago) link

Ratso’s a real guy who seems like a fictional character. (His book about the tour is worth reading, if you run across a dog-eared copy somewhere.)

Consider the coconut (morrisp), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:30 (two months ago) link

wgaf about ratso
Big D looks absolutely possessed during these performances. The close ups are horrifying

calstars, Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:37 (two months ago) link

Lol, otm.

If I were a POLL I’d be Zinging (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:42 (two months ago) link

Ratso’s more interesting than any of “Marty’s” Hollywood buddies pretending they were on the tour.

Consider the coconut (morrisp), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:51 (two months ago) link

idgaf abt ratso myself

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:52 (two months ago) link

late to this, finally finished last night

Impressed that he remembers all those lyrics

― calstars

yep, I thought this as well, I think Joan even mentions "I wouldn't remember all those words" when she & Bob are talking abt "Hattie Carroll"

I loved the Sharon Stone bit cuz it could have been true

Dylan sings with such confrontational intensity on this, like he's really got something to prove, I don't think it was just the coke (which was clearly all over the place just off-screen)

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:08 (one month ago) link

I also wondered if "Coyote" was written abt Ratso given the conversation he relates right before that footage

sleeve, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 17:09 (one month ago) link

Joni had higher standards maybe? Well maybe not?

calstars, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:33 (one month ago) link

I always thought Coyote was p obviously about Sam Shepard? if you feel the need for literal/autobio interpretations (I generally don't)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 18:36 (one month ago) link

think it's sam shepard. though there is a pretty hilarious lengthy argument/interview with joni in ratso's book.

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:05 (one month ago) link

Yeah who cares

calstars, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:13 (one month ago) link

oh god keep your greasy paws off Joni, Ratso!!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

Isn’t “fat man in Paris” also about ratso?

calstars, Wednesday, 3 July 2019 19:33 (one month ago) link

Ginsberg at the very end was by far the best thing about the entire movie.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 6 July 2019 03:41 (one month ago) link

Uhhh, did you see the other Ginsberg stuff?

circa1916, Saturday, 6 July 2019 07:06 (one month ago) link

Yeah, but those last few lines (and Joni Mitchell singing) were the most lovely and inspiring parts of the whole 2+ hours. Beautiful.

john. a resident of evanston. (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 6 July 2019 16:35 (one month ago) link

Yeah I also enjoyed that breezy yet meaningful sermon at the end. But man the David Cross resemblance is jarring

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 7 July 2019 21:52 (one month ago) link

I was amused by the scene where Ginsberg tried to use the Cowboys & Indians wax figures as a kind of “teachable moment” for some young kids, and they quickly outsmarted him / overturned his schtick.

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:26 (one month ago) link

(Actually I think it was “Pilgrims & Indians” — a Thanksgiving tableau)

stan by me (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 14:38 (one month ago) link

The Joni scene playing Coyote isn't just the highlight of the film, it's best thing that's going to be in any film this year.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:01 (one month ago) link

Watched this last night and don't have anything really original to add. But, fwiw: I loved it, basically, especially the gig at Lightfoot's and especially especially Joni (she nicks this, as she does The Last Waltz); also loved the bridge club and the gig at the reservation. I love all of the live stuff but probably the biggest revelation was Hattie Carrol - especially Ronson's incongruous gurning and soloing. Dylan's teeth give me the heebie-jeebies, as does his driving. I've always been pretty anti-Baez, finding her out of her depth, and vaguely feeling that Dylan is taking the piss out of her but she's a strong presence in this (dancing like she's auditioning for the Doors movie, aside) and I could have watched more of her. The 'fakery' doesn't really work as fake or as real so I'd jettison it altogether.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:28 (four weeks ago) link

I said on another thread that I'd avoided the Revue period for vague reasons - partly because I had something closer to the self-congratulatory vaudeville cokefest of the Last Waltz in mind. Not that coke wasn't the driving force behind this but it was much lower-key than I'd imagined. As others have said, Ramblin' Jack Elliott, Ginsberg and Bob Neuwirth doesn't exactly scream wild night on the tiles. This only makes the presence of Ronson and his hair even more incongruous. The low-key nature of it makes me think of the Basement Tapes if anything.

Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:36 (four weeks ago) link

yeah rewound the joni clip twice and then found it on youtube to share elsewhere. it's quite wonderful.

thomasintrouble, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 20:05 (four weeks ago) link

btw i LOVED this

american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 July 2019 03:02 (three weeks ago) link

Do you really think he drove the bus that often, aside from that clip?
― TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, June 17, 2019 10:23 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think he probably did, Bob's a pretty hands-on guy making cabinets and welding and whatnot, likes to sneak around doing "normal person" stuff

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:30 (three weeks ago) link

The greater my desire to rewatch this for the performances, the more disappointed I am that it will include pointless Spinal Tap business. Marty really shat the bed. I hate to imagine how much cool performance and candid footage was left on the floor in order to give "Tanner" time.

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:32 (three weeks ago) link

xp Have you ever listened to that recording of AJ Weberman on the phone w/Dylan, and Dylan keeps trying to politely hang up by saying he's got a bunch of furniture to build?

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:34 (three weeks ago) link

that is the best

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:37 (three weeks ago) link

my favorite part of that tape:

AJ: Comin’ from somebody who wrote, that writes songs like you write, man.
BD: Hey, man, who writes better songs than I do. Name me somebody.

AJ: I can name you a hundred fuckin’ people.
BD:Oh come on. You can’t, you know you can’t.

AJ: Ah, let’s see. Creedence Clearwater.
BD: Oh bullshit.

AJ: Gordon Lightfoot ain’t bad.
BD: Yeah, he’s fine.

AJ: He writes good, he writes good songs. Let me see, there’s some cat, who uses a very, very, a lot of imagery just like ‘Tarantula’ — ah, Barbara Keefe.
BD: Uh.

AJ: Ah . . . Ken Lauber.
BD: Oh, he’s alright. Yeah, he’s very good.

AJ: Jack Elliot.
BD: Jack doesn’t write songs.

AJ: John Lennon.
BD: He’s improving.

AJ: George Harrison.
BD: Hmmmm … Sure.

AJ: Jim McGuinn.
BD: What????

AJ: Procol Harum, Keith Reid what’s his name.
BD: Yeah, well, they’re swell.

AJ: How ’bout Grace Slick? Too political?
BD:I don’t know, does she write stuff?

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 18:42 (three weeks ago) link

Bob otm re: all those ppl tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:01 (three weeks ago) link

(maybe not about Creedence)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:01 (three weeks ago) link

At least he's heard of Ken Lauber, which is more than I have.

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:02 (three weeks ago) link

Perhaps of interest given ILM's collective obsession w John Wesley Harding:

I wrote, Contemplation (View), in my home up on Upper Byrdcliffe Mountain. In an unheated back room, a few dozen or so songs spilled out during the cold winter 1967. A subtle friendship began with Bob Dylan, who was also lived up on Byrdcliffe and was a neighbour. Bob was gracious enough, as often he is with other musicians, to invite me over to his home one day to listen to a test pressing of his new album, "Nashville Skyline." I loved it almost immediately We listened to all the tracks in silence. After, he asked me what I thought of it and I replied instantly, without thinking. "I like the spirit of it." Days later, I played him some of my new songs and he said I should go down to Nashville and record down there with some of the same musicians that played on "Nashville Skyline" and before that on the "John Wesley Harding," album. He spoke with authority and enthusiasm about how the Nashville musicians picked things up quickly and how their respect for lyrics, allowed the personality of the song to emerge clearly.

Good timing cannot be denied. At the same time, a friend, who liked my songs, introduced me to the head of the newly formed American record company, Polydor Records. I played him the new songs I had written and told him I wanted to record in Nashville. He liked the songs and the concept of recording them in Nashville and offered record contract. The record was recorded and mixed, at Wayne Moss's eight track garage studio, Cinderella Sound, in Madison Tennessee, with Gene Echelberger and Eliot Mazur as engineer and producer. Gene built Cinderella Sound with and for, the highly regarded and super talented guitarist and bass player supreme, Wayne Moss. The space was formerly a two car garage behind his Aunt Lucy's house. The line up of musicians was the following: the great Kenny Butrey on drums. The man of all instruments, Charlie McCoy on blues harp, bass and organ, the brilliantly melodic Weldon Myric. on pedal steel; a strong lead guitar soloist, Mac Gaydon, on electric guitar and the versatile and easy going Pete Wade on all the acoustic guitars.

dude's voice is terrible tho tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:07 (three weeks ago) link

Oh right, he was his neighbour, no wonder he'd heard of him!

How to Book Michael Fish (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:16 (three weeks ago) link

Weberman really pioneered the art of "negging."

the last Berry La Croix in the work fridge (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 19:18 (three weeks ago) link

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