Kenny Burrell needs a thread

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One of my favorites, one who I first heard about through the song "Chitlins Con Carne", which was covered by Stevie Ray Vaughn on an album of his I used to own, one that only succeeded in me wanting to find out more about KB.

I own a few albums by him: Midnight Blue, All Night Long, Blue Bash, Soul Call, Kenny Burrell and John Coltrane. I've been trying to hunt down All Day Long and a few other LPs, which have been somewhat hard to come by. Any other fans?

Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Sunday, 26 June 2005 06:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck yeah.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 26 June 2005 06:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i have an aversion to jazz guitar but midnight blue is so tasty.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Sunday, 26 June 2005 06:22 (fourteen years ago) link

KB & JC was one of my early favorite jazz records. He's always been a favorite guitarist of mine.

I have this Concord Jazz Guitar comp, and there's a sick KB jazz-funk track version of "La Petite Mambo," which is from an album called Tin Tin Deo, which I've never heard. I also have a KB LP called Sky Street -- it hasn't been reissued. It's sort of cheesy 70s stuff, but the first track is a pretty sweet CTI-style mellow groove number.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 26 June 2005 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Guitar Forms is my fave. Arranged & conducted by Gil Evans.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 26 June 2005 10:26 (fourteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Mother-in-Law off Soulero is a god damn mind-blower.

xelab, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 00:59 (three years ago) link

this is one of the tunes I mentioned upthread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICS-FhGeWtU

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:36 (three years ago) link

An anecdote that probably only Ken L will give a shit about, but when I was studying with an unnamed guitar teacher who was not Ted Dunbar, the teacher was trying to change my picking technique in a way that I thought produced a really poor sound, and I asked him "well how does Kenny Burrell pick?" and he said "Kenny Burrell's technique suffers a lot from the way he picks." I was so pissed at that, like "who the fuck are you again?"

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 02:52 (three years ago) link

i don't have much to say except kenny rules

the late great, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 03:53 (three years ago) link

guy is nothing if not consistent -- pretty much everything I've heard by him I've enjoyed. just bought a cheap 2LP reissue of All Day Long/All Night Long and have been playing it constantly.

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 16:47 (three years ago) link

Wonder who man alive could be talking about. I am the mailing lists of certain guitar players and some of them might have some gigs this week, even tonight.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 16:50 (three years ago) link

i feel like serious jazz guitarists (or maybe just serious musicians in general) listen pretty differently -- a pro guitar friend of mine can't stand grant green because "he's always repeating himself." which might be true, but ... he's good?

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 16:56 (three years ago) link

Saxophonists used to gripe about "Coltrane, man, he's just running scales" in the early 60s. I think part of it is, when you're familiar with the instrument, you know what naturally/easily falls under your fingers, and said familiarity can shape your listening.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 17:06 (three years ago) link

Ken: I think we've talked about him before, he replaced ted for a while and may or may not have the same initials...

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:28 (three years ago) link

In re Grant Green: I have also always found him a little boring. He has one of the best sounds of any guitar player, but then he just sort of doesn't go anywhere imo, like his solos feel kind of static, and yeah, repetitive. Of course there are lots of musicians I like who are limited and/or repetitive, so it's hard to put into words exactly why Grant Green doesn't do it for me. He still has his moments though -- I like him best in jazz funk settings, e.g. on Alive. He works really well with Idris Muhammad.

Re Coltrane: some of his late 50's/early 60's material does sound a little techy compared to other working tenor players, although it's not like bebop hadn't already happened at that point. I don't think he ever was really just "running scales" but he did have this harder-edged, more angular way of playing lines that maybe didn't "swing" to some people's ears at the time. I really like his playing from that era though, because you can hear him obsessively working through harmonic ideas in an almost Bach-like way.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:34 (three years ago) link

And honestly there aren't many other late 50s/early 60s tenor players are there other than Coltrane that I really enjoy listening to, other than people who were still around from an earlier era (e.g. Coleman Hawkins) or some of the out guys. Sonny Rollins and Stan Getz are pretty much the only ones that come to mind, maybe Hank Mobley. Not a big Dexter Gordon fan fwiw.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:37 (three years ago) link

BTW I mentioned upthread but everyone should listen to the John Coltrane and Kenny Burrell record.

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 19:38 (three years ago) link

Midnight Blue and the Coltrane album are the only ones I have. But I'm seriously looking at the two Seven Classic Albums boxes now.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:07 (three years ago) link

Yeah the JC one is brilliant, it is another prime '58 vintage of which I have developed an addiction to recently.

xelab, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:20 (three years ago) link

man alive, I believe I was in on that earlier conversation and was well aware of who you were talking about, although perhaps I hinted too subtly. I can forward you the latest email he sent out if that would help, but it might just irritate you.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:22 (three years ago) link

haha no thank you

on entre O.K. on sort K.O. (man alive), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:24 (three years ago) link

this live trio record is great
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/A_Night_at_the_Vanguard.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:27 (three years ago) link

haha no thank you

Too late, sent to your old yahoo email account for safekeeping.

The Starry-Eyed Messenger Service (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 16 September 2015 20:37 (three years ago) link

he just sort of doesn't go anywhere imo, like his solos feel kind of static, and yeah, repetitive.
yeah, this is what my friend says! i don't know, he might just get by on vibe for me (though it's true, some of his records are totally boring).

tylerw, Wednesday, 16 September 2015 21:59 (three years ago) link

I don't think he ever was really just "running scales" but he did have this harder-edged, more angular way of playing lines that maybe didn't "swing" to some people's ears at the time.

Oh, absolutely. I think the "just running scales" thing was coming from older and/or slightly embittered players who were reacting to the praise being justifiably heaped on Trane, and whose technical facility enabled them to take a "Pfft! I could do that!" attitude. Of course, they couldn't do that.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 September 2015 01:52 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ww4I2-D408

xelab, Thursday, 17 September 2015 22:20 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.birkajazz.com/graphics2/jonesAfterHours.jpg
I love this one without knowing anything about Thad Jones, awesome band here including Burrell.

xelab, Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:32 (three years ago) link

Can't remember if I mentioned this before, but once I heard some old timers talking about a nightclub he had owned called The Guitar. Very hard to google obv.

Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2015 15:49 (three years ago) link

The Guitar, a cozy box situated in an unlikely neighborhood (10th Avenue at 51st Street), is the new baby of Fred Hayes, a friend of Kenny Burrell from Detroit. Part of the club's raison d'etre is that the top guitarist will spend many of his playing hours there when he is not touring. Burrell will return later in May. Meanwhile, the Ron Carter Duo, featuring guitarist Gene Bertoncini, will be in until April 26, and Jim Hall takes over on the 29th through May 3. Soul food is served.

Alone Again XOR (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 October 2015 20:12 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Midnight Blue is just so chill, he makes being great sound so effortless.

xelab, Sunday, 29 November 2015 19:04 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

seems like this is legit — the USA, where living legends in their 80s need a gofundme page to pay medical bills.
https://www.gofundme.com/support-kenny-burrell

tylerw, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:46 (two months ago) link


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