Coil s/d c/d etc

Search: Most everything else, but I happen to like early/mid 90's coil best: Love's Secret Domain, Stolen & Contaminated Songs, Black Light Distict, Worship the Glitch, Unnatural History 3.

Classic, obviously.

Destroy: Tainted Love (lasts for 3 hours and goths like it)

"where are you? no one has seen you in years" is a great line, and should be used more often...people who fall off the radar have been a romantic staple of pop for years of course, but this captures it well

Are they available as a domestic release in the U.S.?

can't believe i missed this for so long...coil are def one of my favorite bands, although i rarely think of them as such. love the early stuff, get iffy on the wax traxian phase, love love LOVE the last four-five years. if 1999/2000 hadn't been such overwhelming years for albums, both vols of musick to play in the dark would have been high placers in my top 10s.

Search: the twisted sound collages, the idiosyncratic approach to house, the chilly ambience.

Destroy: the crypto-sexual conspiracy theorizing, the gothic growling, the big gated eighties drum sounds.

Coil's disco steps and Ministry's distorted barre chords weaned a lot of listeners from industrial dance's cold and wizened teet. All the A students started sneaking out of the Wax Trax School of Spooky Chain Rattling.
Some fled to a more cheerful dance floor, while others turned to Am Rep and/or Earache for more guitar-based ugliness.

That being said, there are still plenty of clubs which function as industrio-gothic Greenfield Villages, and I'm sure they're very meaningful to their black-clad regulars.

this inspired me to check out the recent stuff & jesus christ it's good. i can't stop playing "batwings" (off musick... vol 2). it's going to take an age to listen to all the mp3s i've just downloaded (sometimes slsk just give you too much), but i'm loving it all so far.

It all makes sense when you see the video -- best cameo ever in that too, BTW.

Al was bending the brim of his cowboy hat, and Coil were putting on their boogie shoes, so second-string tin pounders like Meat Beat Manifesto and MC 900 Foot Jesus were left with the thankless task of recording hip hop records for white guys in black clothes.

You could have finished your routine by doing the robot with Kraftwerk. Those androids were burning up every dancefloor, cardboard or otherwise. It's no good trying to explain musical genres to dancing robots. They'll just stare blankly at you as they continue to shake their mechanical booties.

also i heard a track off "plastic spider thing" and it's fantastic, much to my surprise. i might have to check the rest of the album out.

yes, it is a bit oh dear. i'm sure i'll have gone off coil again in a few days, don't worry.

(I just said Oh Dear because I've had two days worth of gossip about Coil from two different people in the past week. Oh dear on all levels, really.)

Yeah, the four EPs were collected as 'Moon's Milk', which I recommend if you've got time to focus on them, as they move pretty slowly. I like to listen to them while I go to sleep, although there are extremely nutty and frightening tracks at the end and start of the two CDs, so if you're not asleep by them it's pretty fucked.

Other than that I only have 'ove's Secret Domain' which is awesome. I'm always loking for more Coil.

Has anyone heard that track they made featuring a guy's phone message whose boyfriend was a huge Coil fan and topped himself by jumping off a cliff? What's it called?

Also what's with them throwing half their releases off cliffs and things?

So, like, I've been entirely steeping myself in COIL these days, trying to catch up. I picked up the re-mastered Horse Rotorvator (though I had the Some Bizarre edition -- which the band has since renounced). I also picked up the Unnatural History II disc in order to finally hear the aborted tracks from Hellraiser (I really wanted them to be scarier, truthfully, but there's a lot of other great stuff on the disc). The stuff I was really looking for but couldn't seem to find, however, was Love's Secret Domain and Musick to Play in the Dark Vol.1. I'd looked all around the likely shops in NYC, but came up empty, and their official site (Threshold House) has closed the shop for now. Failing everything else, I went to eBay, and won a used copy of L's.S.D (at no great savings to me), figuring I'd never find it anywhere else. It hasn't arrived yet.

So, today, on a lark, I pop into Tower Records on Broadway looking for nothing in particular. Once upon a time (in the days of vinyl), if you were looking for a record and Tower didn't have it, there was a good chance that said record simply didn't exist. But, that was then. In the ensuing years, Tower has fallen into a decline that recalls the fall of the Roman Empire. They're a lost cause teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. But sure enough -- push me down the anal staircase! Their in the import section are more COIL releases than I've ever spotted in any locale...including Musick to Play in the Dark Vol.1 (which I instantly snapped up) and....rotorvate my damn horse...Love's Secret Domain...WRAPPED, PRISTINE AND FACTORY SEALED...unlike the used version I'm waiting to arrive in the mail, which -- for all I know -- may have been used as a coaster. I suck.

I really dig the first vol. of Unnatural History, some really strange sounds on there.

Only got it today, so haven't had a chance to listen to it (it's tough with a little person in the house....I've ripped it to my iPod, so shall listen intently to it soon enough).

I'm well into Musick to Play in the Dark 1, though I'm not wild about "The Dreamer is Still Asleep". Love's Secret Domain isn't what I expected at all, but I'm quite enjoying it. I love the title track and the two "Teenage Lightning" tracks. Been downloading some of their other stuff (and oof is there a lot of it). I agree with whomever said it above that much of it is just far too abstract (notably the stuff fom the COIL-ANS box), but none of it is dull, at the very least.

Secondly, the General Store at the Threshold House site is back open...czech it out! http://www.thresholdhouse.com/

http://www.brainwashed.com/common/images/covers/loci15_traycard.jpg

yeah, it's great

also includes the 4th track that was previously only on the Archives version

All but the most limited colored vinyl edition (330 copies) is still available as of 11EST

i snagged a red one even though i have it in 3 formats already (one is a bootleg). i'm usually pretty good at not doing compulsive purchasing these days but had a mega fail here.

yeah I'ma skip this one too, three formats already as well :-)

https://www.vod-records.com/

TO BE RELEASED MAY 2024

VOD 183: John Balance (Coil): The Art & Audio, Works and Writings of John Balance. 8Lp-Box with Book in wooden Box incl recordings of John as/with Murderwerkers, A House, Stabmental, Cultural Amnesia, as John Balance and as Coil ltd.666

only to be sold to previous VOD customers, fwiw

oh - okay, thx

(there may be some left for general sale. see their FB posts for more details. basically this is Frank's last project and he wants to prioritize his supporters.

can't access FB currently; did Frank give any detail of the book content?

all 7 issues of Stabmental, letters, art and collages, and magazine articles

thanks. i had better start saving.

there's also this book, which I don't think has been mentioned here before:

https://www.timeless-shop.com/product/the-cupboard-under-the-stars-standard-edition/

there were a slew of "special editions" but of course those are long since sold out

Anywhere a non-subscribing pleb can pre-order the upcoming JB box? (I also don't use Facebook but I sub to the VOD newsletter)

Pre-orders are not being taken anywhere at the moment. As noted above you can try your luck when it goes on sale direct at the VOD website but don't hang about. I wouldn't be surprised if a few copies go up for general sale, I've bought a few boxes from VOD before but have no interest in this one so the chances are you'll get one.

Listening to them for the first time (Music to play in the Dark 2). A touch underwhelming but will try a couple of other ones.

I have a slight preference for MTPITD1 over the second one but they had so many styles you're sure to find something you like. Most people would probably point to Horse Rotorvator as their best album.

Cheers, will try that one

personally i'd say that ape of naples is their most accessible (though that's a relative term ofc). depends what kind of stuff you're normally into really

first coil album i ever listened to was the new backwards i think, i remember being underwhelmed and didn't bother with them for another year or so

Moons Milk LP-box shipped today from Bleep.

hope postie brings it tomorrow.

Mine is supposed to arrive today. Very excited

mine was too but didn't. hopefully tomorrow.

any early reactions to this reissue? Mine arrived but I have not been in the right headspace to listen, an excuse that may be more acceptable when discussing Coil than perhaps any other band!

i have not checked the reissue yet to see how the quality is either. will maybe have some amethyst deceivers time later this week.

Digital hi res files are good, a little louder than before, but not painfully brickwalled. I had a version with 3 tracks in part 5, so there’s a track I haven’t heard before (Bankside), and it’s fantastic. (But I think it was included on the previous reissue as well.)

Also, a live version of Amethyst Deceivers is still tacked on to A Warning from the Sun as a hidden track (including minutes silence), so the first thing I did with the digital download is to split them and move Deceivers to the very end.

Bottom line: worth getting for Bankside, but not a sonic improvement (nor did it need to be).

yep Bankside was added to the Threshold Archives CD of the Moon's Milk bonus disc, glad they added it here too

Today I attended the second funeral I've been to where Coil's "Going Up" was played. It was played in its entirety while everyone sat in quiet contemplation. It was one of the most emotional few minutes of my entire life and the most intense (but beautiful) funeral experence I've ever known. Almost indescribable!

Wow. Remarkable indeed!

it's here

https://www.discogs.com/release/31031032-John-Balance-The-Art-Music-Writings-Of-Geoffrey-Rushton-Alias-John-Balance-The-Years-1979-1986

some of this music is really amazing, LP5 in particular (plus the incredible solo Sleazy track on LP4). It's wild how much Balance sounds like COIL right off the bat when he started messing around on Sleazy's gear (the demos on LP5). And the book is very welcome, I'm not sure how many of the record reviews in Stabmental JB wrote, but they are very thoughtful! I love love love reading contemporary interviews and reviews, so this stuff is ambrosia.

I've poked around a bit on my Archives discs trying to find matches, but the demos and unreleased tracks here seem exclusive to this release for the most part

also there is an EIGHT MINUTE version of "Boy In A Suitcase" <3 <3 <3

Maybe it's because I have yet to have ny coffee, but the VOD website is maybe the most frustrating label site I've ever visited

I'm assuming this is already sold out, because there is a graphic of this release on the site but no active links

correct (and remember, this could only be ordered directly, by previous VOD customers), Soundohm will have some copies

https://www.soundohm.com/

i'm starting to worry my copy has got lost as if copies are reaching the US i feel mine should have been here by now. not even had any tracking notifications. will give it another week before panicking.

I never got any tracking info, fwiw - did you get the bundle with the New Wilderness box? those were shipping later.

ah ok. that's a wee bit reassuring. no, just the Balance box on its own.

Finally able to share something major I’ve been working on for a while!

https://theshfl.com/guide/Coil

Thank you, Ned! Mainly admittedly as a result of in recent yrs loving CS + Kreme-->then getting into The Ape Of Naples, have been looking for a guide further down (uh, up?) the a___ staircase

what a great and fitting tribute to my all time favorite project, thank you, Ned!

You’re welcome! Credit to stirmonster for reading an early draft too!

Such great work, Ned.

Thanks again to everyone for all their lovely comments and shares! A quick note that there’s a small update; an earlier review of _Horse Rotorvator_ has been replaced by one specifically written for the guide, giving it its deserved due!

Echoing the sentiments re. the Coil guide. Found it recently just by chance and didn't realize it was by Ned - great piece of information and assessment!

Thanks so much! Glad it’s out there in the wild.

a couple of things that weren't mentioned here at the time I think?

- physical copies are sold out (2022) but the digital album - great remastered version of The Threshold HouseBoys Choir's Form Grows Rampant album: https://mentalgroove.bandcamp.com/album/form-grows-rampant

- and this, the first release by Soisong, has been released digitally in 2022 as well - I can't hear any difference except the last track is 90 seconds longer - https://soisong.bandcamp.com/album/qxn948s

https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/album/born-again-pagans-30th-anniversary-extended-edition

(probably extras from the TARCH releases)

Succumbed.

Going with the CD for this one. Money's tight and this isn't totally essential Coil for me

I'm going for the download option. I already have all of this, twice. Maybe the remaster will help some but it didn't really sound bad originally.