Dave Pajo solo: S/D

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OK, late to the party here, but I'm loving his new solo album ("Pajo"). That "Baby Please Come Home" track just broke my heart.

I'm down with Slint, but what about his other Papa M/Aeriel M/etc solo stuff? I know knothing. School me.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 13:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Aerial M Lp (s/t) is about the only postrock thing I still really like, so search that, I guess.

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 26 May 2005 13:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

all i've heard is the [i]Hole of Burning Alms[/i] comp, but it is quite fantastic. i believe its a comp of various singles and such.

― jonviachicago, Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Rob, how is it? Does it sound like anything previous? Does he sing (I hope not)?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I think his version of "Mama, You Been on My Mind" is worth seeking.

― Lloyd Bonecutter (Lloyd Bonecutter), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

He sings on almost all tracks, and it's quite lovely. Is he normally a bad singer? Sounds OK on this. Very soft/folky vocals with some harmonized overdubs. The album is mostly acoustic with some crunchy drum loops. Nothing very obtuse about it. I can't compare with is other stuff since as the thread implies I'm not familiar with anything other than this. Is his other stuff crazy freaked-out stuff or something? This is quite pretty sounding. Recorded everything on his laptop.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and by 'crunchy drum loops' i mean the sound is a bit distorted, but percussion is used very minimally. the overall sound is dreamy - nice reverb, etc.

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I have Whatever, Mortal and it's more-or-less listenable sub-country noodle-rock. Live From A Shark Cage is supposed to be the best one, but I only know it from reputation.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Solo-wise, I like his earlier electronic dubby stuff more than his folky stuff...

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Search:

all Aerial M

1999 Tour single
From A Shark Cage
Papa M Sings

Destroy:

Whatever Mortal (save for "Krusty")

Haven't Heard:

the numbered singles

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Raymond's dead right to mention 'Krusty' - that's a good song.

― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Destroy:

Whatever Mortal (save for "Krusty")

Destruction is an unfair fate, surely. It's actually a rather nice album.

(But what the hell do I know? Spiderland bores me to tears.)

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I just liked him when it was all/mostly instrumental. The Papa M Sings ep was nice as a sort of departure, but when Whatever, Mortal came out he lost my respect/interest. His voice isn't terrible, but the lyrics sucked and the music seemed to conform to the vocals.

Slint never did much for me, Paul. Any of it. But then I haven't listened to 'em since the fall of 98 or something like that.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

wedding song#3 7" was great, as was the album from that time. didnt like the papa m stuff, havent heard since

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Live From a Shark Cage is good. It has some predictable moments (e.g. the answering-machine-tape-over-guitar-sounds track) but on the whole it's actually a very beautiful record.

I don't like his singing very much though.

― mrjosh (mrjosh), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search the "Last Caress" cover.

― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I don't know what the fuck Raymond is talking about with the "Whatever Mortal" slam. That album is amazingly good, as is "Live from a Shark Cage." Both are evocative albums that summon to me feelings of isolation, loneliness, and hope. I find them very poignant to listen to, to be honest-- and I rarely feel that with much modern music.

― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 18:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i agree on the "whatever, mortal" love-in. great songwriting. the new one, meh, i know it was some kind of experiment. but i think the songs are stellar, the execution just gives me the mondays.

― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Live from a Shark Cage is extraordinary. I'd recommend it to anyone.

Search:
Papa M Sings

Destroy:

Whatever Mortal

This is exactly backward. Papa M sings is not very good at all, in fact, I think its awful. Whatever Mortal has a lot to recommend it (if you like smog)

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Whatever Mortal has a lot to recommend it (if you like smog)

What Smog album sounds like "Whatever Mortal"?

― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

none of them specifically but it has the same general tone as, uh, I dunno. mid-period smog (whatever the one with bathysphere was)or palace/oldham stuff from the same time. I group all these things together in my mind.

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Pajo has a lot to recommend it (if you like Elliott Smith).

I do. Especially earlier, strummy Elliott with layered breathy vocals, which a few songs on the new Pajo recall.

― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i stand by that first papa m album quite vigorously

― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Thanks everyone. Although what I'm seeing here is very little consensus, and that I'll just have to search it all, right? Curt OTM about the new album's ES sound, which isn't a bad thing. I like the breathy vocals...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

anyone heard his vinyl only acoustic Misfits covers album Scream For Me? i LOVE it.

― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 15:04 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Yeah Scream For Me is excellent! Why isn't there more talk about it? The tunes translate VERY WELL.

― SourPatchCorpse, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:34 (eight years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Yikes: http://www.spin.com/articles/david-pajo-slint-suicide-attempt/

― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:25 (three years ago) Permalink

He just posted this on Instagram.

http://instagram.com/p/zDD-AIE_lr/

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:26 (three years ago) Permalink

(Sorry, missed the convo on the Slint thread.)

― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:27 (three years ago) Permalink

i was under the (i guess) mistaken impression that he saw his kids all the time. he posts pictures of them a lot.

this is terrible, i dont know what to say

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:58 (three years ago) Permalink

just read the suicide note

he wrote mentions that he struck her, and then indicts her for "playing the victim" afterwards

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:01 (three years ago) Permalink

wish people would have a tiny bit of class and not keep reposting the link to that - nobody should be reading this shit like it's any normal blog post - i don't care if it was posted publicly - but i guess it's all about the clicks yeah?

― jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:03 (three years ago) Permalink

i think its about people wanting to hear from someone they admire and love who is hurting

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:06 (three years ago) Permalink

idk. i feel bad for reading it and posting about it. i feel really high strung and compulsive and emotional atm

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (three years ago) Permalink

I just feel that journos reposting a link to something like that on every news site for it to be discussed and picked apart in the comments i nots going to have any positive effect on what he's going through or what he has to deal with moving forward. yes it was important to know he's now got the people who matter looking out for him in the aftermath, but I'd say the best thing from here on in is to leave it alone and not encourage people to rubberneck

― jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (three years ago) Permalink

no, i agree. it is gross

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:15 (three years ago) Permalink

and also just - i dont want to see that side of anybody that i admire and dont know personally, it doesnt concern me, and i can never unsee it

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:16 (three years ago) Permalink

on an unrelated note, Whatever, Mortal is among the 10 best albums of the 2000s.

― Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 18:36 (three years ago) Permalink

I'm glad that I've not see anyone opining on this, only people being shocked. the ugly details are certainly a lot to spray out there.

A musician friend-of-friends who I know casually on FB recently went through a breakup and his soon-to-be-ex very publicly shamed him on his newsfeed for everyone he knows to see, and it was super uncomfortable to learn things about someone you don't actually know in depth personally.

― akm, Friday, 13 February 2015 22:42 (three years ago) Permalink

just read the suicide note

he wrote mentions that he struck her, and then indicts her for "playing the victim" afterwards

― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's a hell of a takeaway. He sounds legitimately (and rightfully) horrified at having done that, even in his desperate state. Like, a lot of the note is irrational (as might be expected), but the apology for hitting her (for which, I agree, there is no excuse, ever) seemed like the most lucid part. It's weird enough that this thread got bumped for this horrible incident, and weirder still that some of us are speculating about it like it's a PR blast, but trying to demonize the guy, who probably now feels ashamed and humiliated in addition to the pain he describes in his note, seems to me so obviously the exact wrong thing to be doing right now.

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:06 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, i mean, he acted abominably and the suicide note was very manipulative, but he was under an extreme amount of stress when he did these things so it seems hypocritical for me, from my vantage of not being under stress, to stand in judgment.

― Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:17 (three years ago) Permalink

maybe it's better for people outside the situation to not take a stand at all

― Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (three years ago) Permalink

maybe it's better for people outside the situation to not take a stand at all

― Treeship, Friday, February 13, 2015 6:18 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^^^^^

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (three years ago) Permalink

good idea. let's talk about Whatever, Mortal, which a deeply moving and evocative album. Almost every song is wonderful, but I would suggest "Roses in the Snow" as a starting point. What an amazing piece of music. The whole album is a wrongly overlooked work of genius. SEEK IT OUT WITH HASTE.

Also, the previous album, Live from a Shark Cage is pretty great too. It's instruments, but among the most poignant and moving guitar-based albums I know of. Try "Arundel" for starters.

― Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:41 (three years ago) Permalink

feels good, revisiting this stuff. "over jordan" is another highlight, i like that he revisited "arundel" with Northwest passage.. has a loose, celebratory vibe. Arundel is an excellent track, a lot of the aerial m stuff is nicely affecting.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:11 (three years ago) Permalink

pajo and doug mccombs (tortoise, brokeback) have a unique sense of tone and atmosphere. their instrumental music provided comfort and relief for me a while back. always nice to hear this stuff again

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:19 (three years ago) Permalink

I wish i knew more stuff like Whatever, Mortal and Live from a Shark Cage. I remember in the mid-2000s, I took a long trip around rural Asia, and those albums kept me company. They have a homeless, iterant, lonely feel that felt like a perfect soundtrack for my mindstate and my surroundings at the time.

― Poliopolice, Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:33 (three years ago) Permalink

Dave's Lo the Rose Cease to Bloom ( from the three songs mini cd) has brought me comfort many times over the years. Hope he finds some soon.

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:09 (three years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbXTTXotN5o

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:17 (three years ago) Permalink

^ one of my favorite recordings ever

― Clay, Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:25 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah, just about the best sad song I know

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:27 (three years ago) Permalink

New Instagram post

http://Instagram.com/p/zF7tGvk_pr/

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 February 2015 19:43 (three years ago) Permalink

realized that i am not certain how to pronounce his surname

― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 20:45 (three years ago) Permalink

That new Instagram post is very nice to see.

― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:34 (three years ago) Permalink

pah-ho

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:59 (three years ago) Permalink

also, the line "there was something like a wall between us / that stopped your going down on mah peenus" (from "Sorrow Reigns") has the weird effect of being hilariously unexpected, but increasingly sad within the context of the song.

― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:26 (three years ago) Permalink

man, some insanely inventive guitar licks on these albums. they're complex and sound great, but also seem so simple at the same time ("Krusty", for example).

― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:28 (three years ago) Permalink

I spent last night trying to learn arundel and road runner from live videos and gained a new appreciation for his playing

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Dave lost me a bit after he started singing, but man, PAJO was the business at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2LvGqD_XuE

― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:57 (three years ago) Permalink

The lick on Road Runner is remarkable. Seems so simple...

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 03:34 (three years ago) Permalink

yeah the way he plays it is not at all

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:06 (three years ago) Permalink

have a link for that? I always wanted to learn that lick too.

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:59 (three years ago) Permalink

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMeXZ5JIlLk

I think I'm doing it wrong actually, watching this again. May even have the tuning a bit wrong.

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 14:45 (three years ago) Permalink

If you can figure it out, tell me if you think the tuning is C G C F C E

― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 14:46 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh shit, that's a baritone guitar I think

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 16:05 (three years ago) Permalink

As for tuning, I'll have figure that out... Seems like a lot of open strings

― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 16:07 (three years ago) Permalink

goddamn it... this is really hard

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:46 (three years ago) Permalink

in the meantime... did you know about this Misfits cover album?? WTF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvbKvtO5mg

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:46 (three years ago) Permalink

I think the tuning is: C F C G C E

― Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 00:08 (three years ago) Permalink

Nope, you were right: C G C G C E. I figured out the riff for the most part; one of the reasons it's so hard is because its hard to remember the sequence of notes!

― Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 07:58 (three years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

New interview

http://thethinair.net/2015/03/the-road-to-recovery-with-slints-david-pajo/

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:42 (three years ago) Permalink

Good interview, thanks

― paolo, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:12 (three years ago) Permalink

Great interview. So glad he's better and so brave of him to talk about the subject.

― Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:45 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

https://soundcloud.com/drag-city/papa-m-walking-on-coronado

― djh, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:34 (one year ago) Permalink

This forthcoming Papa M album will make many people happy.

― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Arundel is so pretty.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 September 2016 02:08 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I got to spend about 45 minutes on the phone with him; it was a joy.

A lot of generational/dad talk stuff got left out for space.

http://clrvynt.com/david-pajo-interview/

― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Nice one!

― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:48 (one year ago) Permalink

would like to read, but "trend Micro" say website is spam

― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 October 2016 22:57 (one year ago) Permalink

uplifting read, thanks

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 28 October 2016 00:16 (one year ago) Permalink

good stuff! glad dave is doing better.

― call all destroyer, Friday, 28 October 2016 00:35 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

New video, nice song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLd2PuY9BBs

― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:13 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Live From A Shark Cage is sounding really amazing tonight.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:08 (eight months ago) Permalink

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