I'm down with Slint, but what about his other Papa M/Aeriel M/etc solo stuff? I know knothing. School me.
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 26 May 2005 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― jonviachicago, Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Lloyd Bonecutter (Lloyd Bonecutter), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
all Aerial M
1999 Tour singleFrom A Shark CagePapa M Sings
Destroy:
Whatever Mortal (save for "Krusty")
Haven't Heard:
the numbered singles
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― NickB (NickB), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:19 (seventeen years ago) link
Destruction is an unfair fate, surely. It's actually a rather nice album.
(But what the hell do I know? Spiderland bores me to tears.)
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Slint never did much for me, Paul. Any of it. But then I haven't listened to 'em since the fall of 98 or something like that.
― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 26 May 2005 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't like his singing very much though.
― mrjosh (mrjosh), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ian John50n (orion), Thursday, 26 May 2005 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Search:Papa M Sings
Whatever Mortal
This is exactly backward. Papa M sings is not very good at all, in fact, I think its awful. Whatever Mortal has a lot to recommend it (if you like smog)
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
What Smog album sounds like "Whatever Mortal"?
― Vestigial Appendages, Esq. (King Kobra), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link
I do. Especially earlier, strummy Elliott with layered breathy vocals, which a few songs on the new Pajo recall.
― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 26 May 2005 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link
anyone heard his vinyl only acoustic Misfits covers album Scream For Me? i LOVE it.
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 17 June 2009 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah Scream For Me is excellent! Why isn't there more talk about it? The tunes translate VERY WELL.
― SourPatchCorpse, Sunday, 19 July 2009 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Yikes: http://www.spin.com/articles/david-pajo-slint-suicide-attempt/
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:25 (seven years ago) link
He just posted this on Instagram.
http://instagram.com/p/zDD-AIE_lr/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 February 2015 16:26 (seven years ago) link
(Sorry, missed the convo on the Slint thread.)
― Tove Lo Tove You Baby (jaymc), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:27 (seven years ago) link
i was under the (i guess) mistaken impression that he saw his kids all the time. he posts pictures of them a lot.
this is terrible, i dont know what to say
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 16:58 (seven years ago) link
just read the suicide note
he wrote mentions that he struck her, and then indicts her for "playing the victim" afterwards
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:01 (seven years ago) link
wish people would have a tiny bit of class and not keep reposting the link to that - nobody should be reading this shit like it's any normal blog post - i don't care if it was posted publicly - but i guess it's all about the clicks yeah?
― jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:03 (seven years ago) link
i think its about people wanting to hear from someone they admire and love who is hurting
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:06 (seven years ago) link
idk. i feel bad for reading it and posting about it. i feel really high strung and compulsive and emotional atm
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (seven years ago) link
I just feel that journos reposting a link to something like that on every news site for it to be discussed and picked apart in the comments i nots going to have any positive effect on what he's going through or what he has to deal with moving forward. yes it was important to know he's now got the people who matter looking out for him in the aftermath, but I'd say the best thing from here on in is to leave it alone and not encourage people to rubberneck
― jamiesummerz, Friday, 13 February 2015 17:13 (seven years ago) link
no, i agree. it is gross
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:15 (seven years ago) link
and also just - i dont want to see that side of anybody that i admire and dont know personally, it doesnt concern me, and i can never unsee it
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 February 2015 17:16 (seven years ago) link
on an unrelated note, Whatever, Mortal is among the 10 best albums of the 2000s.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 18:36 (seven years ago) link
I'm glad that I've not see anyone opining on this, only people being shocked. the ugly details are certainly a lot to spray out there.
A musician friend-of-friends who I know casually on FB recently went through a breakup and his soon-to-be-ex very publicly shamed him on his newsfeed for everyone he knows to see, and it was super uncomfortable to learn things about someone you don't actually know in depth personally.
― akm, Friday, 13 February 2015 22:42 (seven years ago) link
― jello my future biafriend (roxymuzak), Friday, February 13, 2015 12:01 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That's a hell of a takeaway. He sounds legitimately (and rightfully) horrified at having done that, even in his desperate state. Like, a lot of the note is irrational (as might be expected), but the apology for hitting her (for which, I agree, there is no excuse, ever) seemed like the most lucid part. It's weird enough that this thread got bumped for this horrible incident, and weirder still that some of us are speculating about it like it's a PR blast, but trying to demonize the guy, who probably now feels ashamed and humiliated in addition to the pain he describes in his note, seems to me so obviously the exact wrong thing to be doing right now.
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:06 (seven years ago) link
yeah, i mean, he acted abominably and the suicide note was very manipulative, but he was under an extreme amount of stress when he did these things so it seems hypocritical for me, from my vantage of not being under stress, to stand in judgment.
― Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:17 (seven years ago) link
maybe it's better for people outside the situation to not take a stand at all
― Treeship, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (seven years ago) link
― Treeship, Friday, February 13, 2015 6:18 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^^
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:18 (seven years ago) link
good idea. let's talk about Whatever, Mortal, which a deeply moving and evocative album. Almost every song is wonderful, but I would suggest "Roses in the Snow" as a starting point. What an amazing piece of music. The whole album is a wrongly overlooked work of genius. SEEK IT OUT WITH HASTE.
Also, the previous album, Live from a Shark Cage is pretty great too. It's instruments, but among the most poignant and moving guitar-based albums I know of. Try "Arundel" for starters.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 13 February 2015 23:41 (seven years ago) link
feels good, revisiting this stuff. "over jordan" is another highlight, i like that he revisited "arundel" with Northwest passage.. has a loose, celebratory vibe. Arundel is an excellent track, a lot of the aerial m stuff is nicely affecting.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:11 (seven years ago) link
pajo and doug mccombs (tortoise, brokeback) have a unique sense of tone and atmosphere. their instrumental music provided comfort and relief for me a while back. always nice to hear this stuff again
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:19 (seven years ago) link
I wish i knew more stuff like Whatever, Mortal and Live from a Shark Cage. I remember in the mid-2000s, I took a long trip around rural Asia, and those albums kept me company. They have a homeless, iterant, lonely feel that felt like a perfect soundtrack for my mindstate and my surroundings at the time.
― Poliopolice, Saturday, 14 February 2015 00:33 (seven years ago) link
Dave's Lo the Rose Cease to Bloom ( from the three songs mini cd) has brought me comfort many times over the years. Hope he finds some soon.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:09 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbXTTXotN5o
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:17 (seven years ago) link
^ one of my favorite recordings ever
― Clay, Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:25 (seven years ago) link
yeah, just about the best sad song I know
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:27 (seven years ago) link
New Instagram post
http://Instagram.com/p/zF7tGvk_pr/
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 February 2015 19:43 (seven years ago) link
realized that i am not certain how to pronounce his surname
― mookieproof, Saturday, 14 February 2015 20:45 (seven years ago) link
That new Instagram post is very nice to see.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:34 (seven years ago) link
pah-ho
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 14 February 2015 21:59 (seven years ago) link
also, the line "there was something like a wall between us / that stopped your going down on mah peenus" (from "Sorrow Reigns") has the weird effect of being hilariously unexpected, but increasingly sad within the context of the song.
― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:26 (seven years ago) link
man, some insanely inventive guitar licks on these albums. they're complex and sound great, but also seem so simple at the same time ("Krusty", for example).
― Poliopolice, Monday, 16 February 2015 23:28 (seven years ago) link
I spent last night trying to learn arundel and road runner from live videos and gained a new appreciation for his playing
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:46 (seven years ago) link
Dave lost me a bit after he started singing, but man, PAJO was the business at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2LvGqD_XuE
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 01:57 (seven years ago) link
The lick on Road Runner is remarkable. Seems so simple...
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 03:34 (seven years ago) link
yeah the way he plays it is not at all
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:06 (seven years ago) link
have a link for that? I always wanted to learn that lick too.
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 04:59 (seven years ago) link
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMeXZ5JIlLk
I think I'm doing it wrong actually, watching this again. May even have the tuning a bit wrong.
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 14:45 (seven years ago) link
If you can figure it out, tell me if you think the tuning is C G C F C E
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Tuesday, 17 February 2015 14:46 (seven years ago) link
Oh shit, that's a baritone guitar I think
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 16:05 (seven years ago) link
As for tuning, I'll have figure that out... Seems like a lot of open strings
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 17 February 2015 16:07 (seven years ago) link
goddamn it... this is really hard
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 February 2015 23:46 (seven years ago) link
in the meantime... did you know about this Misfits cover album?? WTF?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvbKvtO5mg
I think the tuning is: C F C G C E
― Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 00:08 (seven years ago) link
Nope, you were right: C G C G C E. I figured out the riff for the most part; one of the reasons it's so hard is because its hard to remember the sequence of notes!
― Poliopolice, Friday, 20 February 2015 07:58 (seven years ago) link
New interview
http://thethinair.net/2015/03/the-road-to-recovery-with-slints-david-pajo/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 15:42 (seven years ago) link
Good interview, thanks
― paolo, Wednesday, 18 March 2015 18:12 (seven years ago) link
Great interview. So glad he's better and so brave of him to talk about the subject.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 19 March 2015 14:45 (seven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/drag-city/papa-m-walking-on-coronado
― djh, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:34 (six years ago) link
This forthcoming Papa M album will make many people happy.
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 8 September 2016 00:34 (six years ago) link
Arundel is so pretty.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 8 September 2016 02:08 (six years ago) link
I got to spend about 45 minutes on the phone with him; it was a joy.
A lot of generational/dad talk stuff got left out for space.
http://clrvynt.com/david-pajo-interview/
― Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:42 (six years ago) link
Nice one!
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 27 October 2016 21:48 (six years ago) link
would like to read, but "trend Micro" say website is spam
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 27 October 2016 22:57 (six years ago) link
uplifting read, thanks
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 28 October 2016 00:16 (six years ago) link
good stuff! glad dave is doing better.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 28 October 2016 00:35 (six years ago) link
New video, nice song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLd2PuY9BBs
― Eazy, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 17:13 (five years ago) link
Live From A Shark Cage is sounding really amazing tonight.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 11 October 2017 01:08 (five years ago) link
New one is amazing. Pajo, if you’re listening, I’m glad you’re alive.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 20:47 (four years ago) link
Same. The Arvo Part cover put a lump in my throat.
― alpine static, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 23:36 (four years ago) link
Where is this new one, pray tell?
― The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 23 August 2018 15:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.cameo.com/davidpajoFor $19, you can get a personalized birthday message from Dave Pajo.
― ernestp, Thursday, 25 March 2021 02:58 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7wh270Oc9c
^ guitar nerd business with dave <3
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 25 January 2023 08:22 (one week ago) link
I enjoyed this!
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 11:57 (six days ago) link
yes, he seems like a genuinely nice guy! pleased to see that he seems to be back an even keel now too
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:08 (six days ago) link
What a legend, a resume to die for and just a regular guy despite it all
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 12:26 (six days ago) link
i spoke with him for a little while outside after a Slint reunion show several years ago, 2014 i think? talked about metal and various other things. very sweet, gracious dude. was really saddened to hear about the mental health crisis he went through not long after.
but yeah, he seems to be in a good place these days! happy for him.
― circa1916, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 14:25 (six days ago) link
He's one of those guys (like Matt Sweeney?) that seem to show up all over, which is a testament to their personalties as much as their abilities.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:23 (six days ago) link
Speaking of Pajo and Sweeney, there's been a few good writeups lately of that slept on (imho) Zwan album with it being the 20th anniversary. It is apparently still not streaming and, if the rumors I read a long time ago are true, it's because pissbaby Corgan hates these two guys so much that he doesn't want anything to do with it anymore. Which is a shame, because these guys deserve whatever meager money they can get from having to deal with Corgan.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:35 (six days ago) link
zwan were so outrageously good, like the unreleased/live stuff is incredibly special when you have those three guitarists onstage, and it's fucked up that the band only lasted one album and none of that shit ever got a proper release
anyway, it's possible corgan may be being a pissbaby about it but i assume that since no one knows when the machina reissue is coming out that putting mary star of the sea on streaming is extremely on the backburner (and fwiw zeitgeist is not on streaming either)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:53 (six days ago) link
Oh yeah, you aren't wrong, I've just been freshly annoyed by how awful Corgan handled the fracture of Zwan, he was such a dick about it. No doubt Zwan is the last thing on his mind, but I just would love to see Paz, Pajo and Sweeney get some more cash and recognition for the record.
Yeah, the three times I saw them were fantastic. Never saw the Djali Zwan acoustic configuration, but used to have a bunch of boots. Thought they were much better as a full blown electric rock band anyway. Seeing them and Dead Meadow at the Metro was a killer show.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2023 17:00 (six days ago) link