KiLlIng JoKe Developments.....

Impending doom is surely more appropriate a phrase.

So, Should I fly to London in late February to attend the Killing Joke Anniversary Shows at the Shepherds Bush Empire....?

...purportedly soon to be out on DVD.

The 'diary' section is supposed to serve that function (he has a bit in there now).

Recommend me a few tracks so that I can get a feel for them?

"The Wait" (later covered....poorly....be Metallica)
"Wardance"
"Follow the Leaders"
"Chop-Chop"
"Let's All Go (to the Fire Dances)"
"Eighties"
"Love Like Blood"

If you don't like any of those, you might not bother continuing.

Never thought I'd see the day. Well, I'm psyched.

Also, is there any correlation whatsoever between the fact that KJ and Cabaret Voltaire both released 6-song live EP's in the same year, one called "Ha" and the other called "Hai!"? Nah, didn't think so.

(also.. I never though i'd have to enter a credit card START date before.. that took me a little while to figure out.)

If you don't like any of those, you might not bother continuing."

What about PSSYCHE? What about UNSPEAKABLE?!?

Have you got anything more specific than "soon" re: the release date for the DVD?

Killing Joke - Live At The Astoria
Killing Joke captured live at the Astoria on 12 October 2003.

DVD Tracklist:
Communion
Requiem
Total Invasion
Wardance
Blood On Your Hands
Change
Seeing Red
The Fall Of Because
Follow The Leaders
The Death & Resurrection Show
Kings & Queens
Emipire Song
The Wait
White Out
New Day
Pssyche
Asteroid
Pandemonium

Special Features:
Loose Cannon Video
Seeing Red Video
'Seeing Red' With Jaz Coleman - Exclusive Interview
Official Album EPK
Photo Gallery
The possibility of catching a fleeting glimpse of Alex In NYC somewhere in the audience

Alex is an Easter Egg?

ah whatever.

Time to move to the Iceland!

enjoy my greens, Jaz!

Nah, Jaz isn't affiliated with MD anymore. It's strictly Mike Coles (who designed all the album covers back in the early days).

No idea about a Cabs correllation....though I assume it's purely coincidental.

Release dates are a tough thing to pin down with this organization, sadly.

Continue yawning, oh ye who feel no urge to honor the Hermitage.

This hurts me deep in my heart.

Major xpost...

While I think the original "The Wait" is supreme over anything that's covered it, I think Metallica's cover is alright! Garage Days Re-Revisited was truly Metallica's last blast of goodness. They really should have called it a day after that.

....Garage Days was super influential to me....introduced me to KJ and the Misfits....one of the first "punk" things I really ever heard....

Hahahaha. This would be third time if anyone like that is still even out there! How BORING!

That sucks!

Do you know if there'll be any special features on the DVD that IS coming out?

I mean, they must be getting desperate if they are willing to tour with Motley Crue.

Go back to the store and return every Killing Joke album you've ever bought. Then find a pasture and wash your mouth out with a cowpie.

That all said, I cannot imagine the `Joke converting great swathes of the Crue's core audience, but ya never know.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), May 28th, 2005 12:39 PM. (vassifer)

Oh, you always say that.

It would be more threatening to hear "Go buy some Motley Crue and listen to it till you find the similarities between them and the Joke!!!"

Go listen to your little Foo Fighters.

Dave is taller than Jaz!

Anyway, I already pissed some people off on that board. (what a surprise!) But some people think I'm cool.

But Alex, I can't leave this board because then I won't get to talk to you and I mean, where else am I gonna find a Joke fan like you ever again?? With all your info and stuff.

http://www.misera.net/gathering/

That all said, I cannot imagine the `Joke converting great swathes of the Crue's core audience, but ya never know.

I originally read this as the CURE's audience. I was utterly baffled for awhile there.

you know, i ALWAYS figured that nikki sixx was a secret punk!

Sixx is the king of revisionism, meanwhile he re-tooled the Crue's look circa Theatre of Pain to distinguish the band from the punks.

I thought it was incongruous that Motorhead are supporting on the Australian leg, but KJ do edge it.

Are Motorhead opening? That's totally criminal. But, Lemmy does live in L.A. (right down from the Troubadour. I rang his buzzer in `95....it does indeed say "I.Kilmister")...and Motorhead are a metal band. Now KJ and Motorhead together....THAT would be a fucking tour!

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There are bonus tracks on all the re-masters, though not as many as I'd have preferred.

Damnit! I'm in shock. I thought I was getting the real thing. I'm glad you caught that.

Alex in NYC or not, there is some delightfully wonderful sonic bombast to be had, here. The bonus track of Requeiem for starters. "Primitive" is rather interesting, too.

i have always held the joke at arms length as they have always been top of my list as the worst live gig i ever went to.

now, i realise this is a sin to certain folks, but they were dreadful. they had got lost enroute and it was obvious that they were in a seriously pissed off mood and didn't want to do the show (1987 - Leeds Uni - with the awesome Lorries on support) - so they just rushed through the stuff at distortion levels due their overly late stage time.

not enjoyable.

however, as the last album ripped a big hole in my playlist i feel its time to do the research and go back in time.

also it means i may begin to understand the ever fresh passion of Alex, something that amazes even me with my ongoing well known infatuations.

I have the Incomplete Collection box set and never bothered to research any variance in track listing on the albums from the original studio releases, nor have I ever checked for any b-sides I might have missed from '80 to '85. The albums in the box are the only KJ I know (to '85 that is), and they're all of course fantastic.

So, is there something big I missed out on?

Dear Gatherers and friends of the fire,
Greetings and I trust you are all in good spirits.
So much has happened since my last yard entry, I must just mention Dimebags death, which was a tragedy both personal and for music, I never met anyone that had the lust for life that that man had, he lived and died for his love of the music. Rest in Peace Dime & much love to Rita, Riggs, Philip, Rex & Kat along with all the Pantera family worldwide. 
 
Well…we have fought many battles to get through this last period since KILLING JOKE 2003 came out it’s hard to know where to start so I wont, I’ll just go on to say that we have banished a few of the demons from our midst and are far better off for it.
 
Prague has been the base for much merry making as well as hard work, we would like to thank all the long suffering bartenders in Prague city, they have seen KILLING JOKE at our absolute best/worst this year and tolerated it with grace, thanks to Nora, Tomas, Marika, and all the staff at ‘Through the Looking Glass’ & The New Rangers Crew in Karlova 25.
 
We are all pssyched about the new album, which will be called HOSSANAS FROM THE BASEMENTS OF HELL. We recorded the album in Prague 6 at Faust Studios and it sounds amazing, Jerry Kandiah engineered the record and we are producing ourselves these days...(no change there then)
I must say that I am proud of Jaz and Geordie, Benny and Reza as everyone has stepped to the plate and delivered beyond expectation, we feel it is some of the best work we have ever done under the banner KILLING JOKE… but hey!  we’ll let you decide.
 
You will all get a chance to meet Jerry & check out his other talents, along with drummer Lord Hedgewick & bass maestro Blaise, when they join us out on the UK/EU tour w/ his band TRIBAZIK.
 
While we’re talking tours…
 
The Motley Crue tour was a fucking joke & we hated it. There was problem after problem and a whole bunch of bullshit from the business end to get through that made the whole experience pretty draining all round. We overcame adversity and ‘…kicked ass’ as those morons would say. Always got time for Sixx, he’s a true geezer with low end to spare, but the rest can go hang. Our crew excelled & Crues stage crew were accommodating, but the headaches out weighed the fun & as usual that usually means destruction and chaos in return from our end culminating in Motleys manager getting knocked out in London. Well done that man! We drank a lot and went fucking mental non stop ending up in London with debts and a hangover like you wouldn’t believe.
 Any way fuck that.
 
We need to thank all the Gatherers & the hardcore that showed up to see us at BARFLY in Camden on the 21st for the Kerrang Jester Benefit, we had a great time & it was excellent to finally meet Jester Joe & see him in such good spirits in the face of adversity. Butcher, I owe you an apology for behaving like a hooligan.
 
We will be auctioning the original lyrics to ‘Turn to Red’, ‘Are you Receiving?’ & ‘Nervous system’ on www.killingjoke.com very soon as well as some other choice items including a bass guitar from Warwick & something ‘special’ from Jaz to raise more funds so keep your eyes peeled.
 
We are planning a playback party of the soon to be released KILLING JOKE DVD from the XXV Gathering in Feb called THE BAND THAT PREYS TOGETHER STAYS TOGETHER, along with previews of the HOSSANAS FROM THE BASEMENTS OF HELL CD which will not be available till Feb 2006. It will be held at The Cochran Theatre, which is Southampton Row, London WC1. On Sunday 16th October, that’s the Sunday after we play the Astoria. We are waiting on confirmation at this point re the date but I will keep you all informed.
There will be only 300 seats for this event so tickets are being made available to Gatherers first…of course.
 Email me at killingjoke1@gmail.com to reserve. The tickets for this event will be £20 and all the proceeds will go to Jesters fund.
We are planning on making the fund a permanent fixture at the site so that Gatherers that are in need will have a chance of getting treatment should they fall ill & need help.
 
We all know what happened in summer, we did a few festivals but cancelled shows as we were under pressure to complete the new album, sometimes it’s really hard to swap heads in mid stream. Sorry to everyone in Germany who was disappointed by our cancellations. However, KILLING JOKE will be back in Germany in December to make up for it so look out for us and please come, we will show up THIS TIME! Really looking fwd to a Berlin show at the now legendary SO36.
 
We are gearing up for our European tour starting in Gent Belgium on Thursday 29th September. We expect loyal Gatherers & mad Belgians to show in force! That means you Marnick! Come witness the first sober (except Benny) Killing Joke shows in years! Ha ha ha. See you down the front motherfuckers.
 
Finally, Gems of Power, the spoken word box set that I did w/ Jaz in Prague is being made available, thank you to the many of you who have already shown interest. Those Gatherers who have reserved signed numbered copies of the first edition need to email me again at  killingjoke1@gmail.com
And those orders will of course be filled first.
 
Respect & regards, 
 
Your grinning bass hound.
 
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kiliing joke developments

Recent NZ TV interview (17 Aug) with Jaz on the new album here

Terrible cover. Incredible record.

is this out yet?

What exactly is that image? A cross being used as a cell tower or a speaker pole or some reference to cameras in London?

It's a cell tower I think

This cover is so awful:
http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/0/0/0/6/7/8/8/2/28876000_500x500_1.jpg

But this track is so good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCsRwRYXFkg

heard that track earlier today, my nerves have yet to recover. immense.
but yes, truly awful awful artwork ..
if they removed the skull and the engine part (??) then that would be an improvement.

This song is a monster. As monstrous as that cover art.

Terrible cover. Incredible record.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 15, 2010 8:07 PM (1 year ago)

lol seems to be a recurring theme.

Cannot wait to FINALLY see Killing Joke in person for the first time at Roadburn in April.

Great tune, too.

Paul Ferguson really needs to dump the hi-hat/cymbals from his kit. The first 4 albums had such a unique sound in large part due to the tribal tom patterns and high frequency space opened up to Geordie's flanged jazz chords.

Don't mind Youth bringing in psy-trance production touches, but I haven't cared much for the past 22 years of KJ being the respectable Ministry alternative.

Really, nobody else has sounded quite like prime era KJ. Certainly not later KJ.

That may be, but as far as I'm concerned, EVERY ALBUM aside from "Outside The Gate" has been immensely enjoyable when it came out and has a place in their catalog - the metalic "Pandemonium", the acoustic "Democracy", the violently angry "KJ 2003" and the long sludgy grooves of "Hosannas" are all really different from one another and all fantastic.

absolute dissent is a pretty great album, the first in a long time from them that I thught really sounded like old school KJ.

I heard from a friend they were 'awful' in LA last year and had a tech stand in for Youth...true?

I like this new song.

New album is balls...

...of fire raining from the sky and scorching my eardrums with awesomeness!

Nice! New KJ take a few listens to reveal the nuances but, yeah, more greatness. Frankly I find every single album aside from Outside The Gate to be worthy, no idea how I'd rank them as they seem to change with each one.

Any thoughts on "MMXII"? Lyrically, Jaz is completely nuts - FEMA camps, really? At times it sounds like a cross between Brighter and Repressed Emotions. It's not bad but it's not grabbing me like the last one.

I'll keep posting on this ghost thread. New singles collection coming out - it's 33 individual CD singles! Jeez... Deluxe edition comes with a sweet disc of odds and ends, though.

Tracklist: Killing Joke, The Singles Collection: 1979-2012: Super Deluxe Edition

CD 1
1. “Nervous System”
2. “Turn To Red”

CD 2
1. “War Dance”
2. “Pssyche”

CD 3
1. “Requiem”
2. “Change”

CD 4
1. “Follow The Leaders”
2. “Tension”

CD 5
1. “Empire Song”
2. “Brilliant”

CD 6
1. “”Chop-Chop”
2. “Good Samaritan”

CD 7
1. “Birds of A Feather”
2. “Flock The BSide”

CD 8
1. “Let’s All Go (To The Fire Dances)”
2. “Dominator”

CD 9
1. “Me Or You?”
2. “Wilful Days”

CD 10
1. “Eighties”
2. “Eighties” (Coming Mix)

CD 11
1. “A New Day”
2. “Dance Day”

CD 12
1. “Love Like Blood”
2. “Blue Feather” (Version)

CD 13
1. “Kings And Queens”
2. “The Madding Crowd (Remixed By Killing Joke)

CD 14
1. “Adorations”
2. “Exile”

CD 15
1. “Sanity”
2. “Goodbye To The Village”

CD 16
1. “America”
2. “Jihad”

CD 17
1. “My Love Of This Land”
2. “Darkness Before Dawn”

CD 18
1. “The Beautiful Dead”

CD 19
1. “Money Is Not Our God”
2. “North Of the Border”

CD 20
1. “Exorcism” (Live In King’s Chamber Cairo, Aug 1993 Mix)
2. “Whiteout” (The Intellect Is Ugly Remix) (Mandragora Edit)

CD 21
1. “Millennium” (Cybersank Edit)
2. “Millennium” (Cybersank Extended Remix)

CD 22
1. “Pandemonium” (Cybersank Edit)
2. “Pandemonium” (Cybersank Extended Remix)

CD 23
1. “Jana”
2. “Jana” (Dragonfly Mix)

CD 24
1. “Democracy” (Album Mix)
2. “Mass”

CD 25
1. “Loose Cannon”
2. “Wardance” (Ultimate Version)

CD 26
1. “Seeing Red” (edit)
2. “Seeing Red” (Jagz Kooner Remix w/vox)

CD 27
1. “Hosannas From The Basements Of Hell” (Radio Edit)
2. “Afterburner” (Alternative Version)

CD 28
1. “In Excelsis”
2. “Kali Yuga”

CD 29
1. “European Super State” (edit)
2. “European Super State” (Youth Remix)

CD 30
1. “Fresh Fever”

CD 31
1. “Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove”
2. “Ghosts of Ladbroke Grove” (Dub)

CD 32
1. “In Cythera” (Edit)
2. “Penny Drops”

CD 33
1. “Corporate Elect”
2. “New Uprising”
3. “In Cythera” (Bloody Beetroots Remix)

CD 34: RARITIES DISC
1. ‘Transient Place’
From ‘Freispiel: The Soundtrack’.
2. ‘Zennon’
B-side of ‘Loose Cannon’ single.
3. ‘Drug’
From the ‘Mortal Kombat’ soundtrack.
4. ‘Hollywood Babylon’ (longer intro mix)
From the ‘Showgirls’ soundtrack.
5. ‘Our Last Goodbye’
From the ‘Free The Memphis 3’ album.
6. ‘Sixth +Sun’
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
7. ‘Wardance’ (Naval Mix).
8. ‘Requiem’ (Acapella Mix).
9. ‘Pandemonium’ (Aotearoa Mix)
Full-length.
10. ‘Four Stations Of The Sun’
Studio version
11. ’Feast Of Fools’ (rough mix)
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
12. ‘iBuy’ – with Tim Burgess.
Track for Classic Rock collaborations CD.
13. ‘Timewave’ (rough mix)
Unreleased track from the ‘Absolute Dissent’ sessions.
14. Jaz & Youth Shamanic Ritual Live in the King’s Chamber Giza Pyramid
(Pre-recording vocals for 3.Pandemonium).
15. ‘Ravings of Jaz’
(A conversation on philosophy between Youth & Jaz circa 2003).
16. ‘Intellect’ (feat. Aboud Abdel Al)
Track from ‘Democracy’ (previously unreleased version featuring this celebrated violin player).

Good last disc, but do none of those CD singles have the 12" content?

Yeah, I noticed that. Weak!

So I heard the 3CD "In Dub" collection that just came out. It's really more like Youth-plays-some-electronic-dub-and-occasionally-samples-Jaz. It has it's moments - an old favorite is the fantastic 10 minute Floating Leaf dub mix of "Requiem". Not sure I need to hear much of it again, though.

Apparently, Jaz is recording symphonic versions of classic LJ songs...

the crowdfunder for that launched 2.5 years ago, it could have been out by now if you updated this thread more frequently

https://blackcountryrock.co/2018/08/31/conny-plank-the-potential-of-noise/

Killing Joke had just got kicked out of Hansa Studios in Berlin for trashing the mixing desk. Christa (Plank) was paranoid that they would do the same in Cologne. She came up with a ruse to assert her authority and bolster her image as someone not to be messed with. She breakfasted on raw steak with the band. It convinced them that she was beyond fearsome and henceforth they behaved like schoolboys.

Jaz Coleman made a nifty EP with Deflore, an Italian band. Title track and last track reminds me of "Pandemonium" material, track 2 is a nice spacey instrumental with an aggro bridge.

https://deflore.bandcamp.com/album/party-in-the-chaos