Please talk about: "Buffalo Stance" by Neneh Cherry

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n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I like how she introduces the various parts of the drum beat at the beginning. It's like introducing the members of your band, but in the digital studio age.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

It has the most endearingly bad scratching in it ever.

tylero (tylero), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Also: what is a buffalo stance?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Everyone in the world likes this song, right?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember posting once that the song was great but the rest of the album Raw Like Sushi was terrible. This being ILM, I was promptly disabused of this notion.

Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

It's a really excellent record, that's all I can say right now.

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2005_05_01_nylpm_archive.html#111581074311602649

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never heard the album. Living in the downloadin' internet age it's hard to imagine a time when if you suddenly remembered some awesome song from like 10 years ago, you actually had to go out and buy the whole album just to hear that one song. Though I guess that could be good if you end up rediscovering some older awesome album.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, I guess there were "CASSINGLES."

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

hearing this song for the first time in many years is like manna from heaven. hearing it the second time - not so much.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Quite a charming song, which represents its era very well.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Nenah and I used
the same Brooklyn laundromat:
1992

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

(I think that was her, anyway)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i heard it the other night in a cab on the way home from a good date. it was fantastic.

too bad her dad's dead.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

too bad her brother released an album

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Gigalo!

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I found that Hook-ish bassline charming too.

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Also: what is a buffalo stance?

I think it's a pose with arms-crossed and tanding aloof.

LOVE this song, it's one of my top ten favourites of the 80's.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

DON'T YOU GET FRESH WITH ME

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i've never seen a buffalo cross front legs.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

On the remixes, she gets all NASTY, saying stuff like "GIVE ME A MOTHERFUCKIN' BREAK BEAT!!!". Dirrrrty.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

i have this song in my head all the time despite only knowing the tune and the words to the ".....dance .....buffalo stance" part.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Here you go, kyle:


Buffalo Stance Lyrics
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Who's that gigolo on the street
With his hands in his pockets and his crocadile feet
Hanging off the curb, looking all disturbed
At the boys from home. They all came running
They were making noise, manhandling toys
That's the girls on the block with the nasty curls
Wearing padded bras sucking beers through straws
Dropping down their drawers, where did you get yours?

Gigolo, Huh, sukka?
Gigolo. Gigolo, Huh, sukka?

Chorus 1:

Who's looking good today?
Who's looking good in every way?
No style rookie
You better watch don't mess with me

Chorus 2:

No moneyman can win my love
It's sweetness that I'm thinking of.
We always hang in a Buffalo Stance
We do the dive every time we dance
I'll give you love baby not romance
I'll make a move nothing left to chance
So don't you get fresh with me

Get funky. Yeah Timmy.
Tell it like it is. Check out this DJ.

So you say you wanted money but you know it's never funny
When your shoes worn through and there's a rumble in your tummy
But you had to have style get a gold tooth smile
Put a girl on the corner so you can make a pile
Committed a crime and went inside
It was coming your way but you had to survive
When you lost your babe, you lost the race
Now you're looking at me to take her place.

Chorus 1

Smokin.' Not cokin.' Get funky sax.
Looking good, hanging with the wild bunch.
Looking good in a Buffalo Stance.
Looking good when it comes to the crunch
Looking good's a state of mind
State of mind don't look behind you
State of mind or you'll be dead
State of mind may I remind you
Bomb the Bass...rock this place!
What is he like? What's he like anway?
Yo' man what do you expect the guy's a gigolo man
You know I mean?

Chorus 2 (twice)

Wind on my face, sound in my ears
Water from my eyes, and you on my mind
As I sink, diving down deep...deeper into your soul.

Chorus 2 ...

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

In the land of the mechanically funky, the squibbly robot synth is king!

The Irrelevant Man (Negativa) (Barima), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

How could this be anything other than brilliant?

*cocks an eye towards a looming Norwegian-derived storm*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I always loved that synth-keys upward progression that sounds like a Sega space game going into the next level.

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Couldn't I just send her to my pants instead?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

This may shock some to read, but I think that -- with the exception of the lyrics of "Trout," which are well-intentioned but ultimatley ridiculous -- VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING THAT NENEH CHERRY HAS EVER DONE IS ABSOLUTELY, CATEGORICALLY BRILLIANT!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:12 (sixteen years ago) link

The best part of B Stance is the sample of Miami's Chicken Yellow, I thinks.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 19 May 2005 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

The $200 video is a total, total classic.

Thanks for posting the lyrics, I never could make out that "no style rookie" line.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I want to talk about "Man Child" instead. One of the most beautiful songs ever to contain rapping...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 19 May 2005 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

this song is pretty good, but I don't get the classic rep.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

AND YOU TOO WILL LEARN TO LIVE THE LIE

N_RQ, Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I played this when I DJed at the last Poptimism and out of all the songs I played, people's reaction to this put the biggest smile on my face. I love everything aout it.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 19 May 2005 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I hereby declare everybody in this thread to be insane. Or British.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

raw like sushi is great, but the single version of 'heart' is much better than the album version (or do i have that the wrong way round?)

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

this song and its video are of course fantastic

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

"Buffallo" was a london based photgraphy and fashion collective that specialised in tuff/pretty looking models. if u saw The Face at any time in the early 80's then you know their work. They did most of the fashion covers (Nick Kamen was their most famous). the collective was formed by Ray Petri, Jamie Morgan and Cameron McVey (who Neneh later married).

http://img.textbookx.com/images/large/1X/157687091X.jpg

http://www.showstudio.com/projects/mgn/mgn_movies.html

jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:48 (sixteen years ago) link

she only married one of them, not all three.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link

i think 3D from Massive Attack was part of the scene too, hence "lookin good, hangin' with The Wild Bunch"

jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I loved this song when it came out and was actually listening to the 45 when the '89 bay area earthquake hit. The record was skipping over and over again when the earthquake stopped and it always creeped me out after that.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

that is true

and the song is Classic, Klassic and any other way you wanna spell it, always makes me smile and ppl dance when I play it

and Alex in NYC is right in saying Neneh generally is brilliant

btw, has anyone actually come out hating the song yet?

H (Heruy), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link

one of my favorites, ever. i finally found the 12" a couple of years ago, which was a sunny day indeed.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 20 May 2005 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

x-post:
half the song was originally on a Wild Bunch-produced Jamie J Morgan b-side a couple of years earlier

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link

how about we all celebrate by somebody YSIing it!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 20 May 2005 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link

For some reason, not necessarily musical, Buffalo Stance reminds of Oran Juice Jones - The Rain.

mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I bought the cassingle of this 'back in the day'. I don't have it with me anymore, but I recall the cardboard edges of that thing were really really worn.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 20 May 2005 04:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

N_RQ, Friday, 20 May 2005 07:20 (sixteen years ago) link

the first cd i ever owned (c1990).

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i think wild bunch did a couple tracks on 'raw like sushi': bristol p-punk-trip hop 'nuum represent: neneh is the missing link between pop group and tricky.

Geoff Barrow (Portishead) did a couple of tracks on Homebrew too.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 May 2005 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Let's talk about the god damn awesome synth 'bit' 2:50 into the track with Robyn. Fuck me. So cool.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 February 2014 14:29 (seven years ago) link

I like that song a lot but I don't really like Robyn on it, or she doesn't really add much

sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 27 February 2014 14:51 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, her voice is perhaps too much like diet-Neneh to add much.

i reject your shiny expensive consumerist stereo system (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 27 February 2014 14:58 (seven years ago) link

If every vocal on here was pitch-shifted, too cool for school Knife fans would be going nuts over this album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 February 2014 16:22 (seven years ago) link

Weightless is incredible

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Thursday, 27 February 2014 16:36 (seven years ago) link

gets better every time i hear it

thuggish ruggish brony (contenderizer), Thursday, 27 February 2014 21:52 (seven years ago) link

this is really good. the title track has that skittery intense feel of the thing album although the rest of the album is quite sparse.

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:54 (seven years ago) link

Weightless is incredible

'tis

everyday sheeple (Michael B), Friday, 28 February 2014 18:00 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Neneh's youngest girl Mabel just premiered her first single today: http://www.thefader.com/2015/07/13/mabel-know-me-better

Johnny Fever, Monday, 13 July 2015 21:04 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

an early version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igcNxCyErog

had (crüt), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 04:42 (three years ago) link

interesting

I love this song

niels, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 07:31 (three years ago) link

that demo/early version doesn't really hang together does it? they made the different parts sound of a whole in the final version

loving the "whaaa is he liiiike" ad-libs

niels, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 07:32 (three years ago) link

it's a weirdo throwaway remix of another song [the A-side], with one of the guys' girlfriend adding some vocals over the top, not really intended to "hang together" at that point!

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 08:25 (three years ago) link

aaah, I see

niels, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 08:28 (three years ago) link

Man, had no idea about this. Amazing that something so great could come so casually from something so shite (the A-side). That B-side may not exactly hang together, but all the bits are there, and they wouldn't need much changing.

Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 15 March 2018 10:53 (three years ago) link

wow the A-side really is awful.

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:04 (three years ago) link

incidentally, anyone know where i might be able to get the stem samples from the Neneh version? I've been wanting to do a remix of the track for years but no idea where you get this sort of thing

loud horn beeping jazzsplaining arse (dog latin), Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:04 (three years ago) link

According to wikipedia, the Buffalo Stance single was released on my tenth birthday. I can't find anything else confirming this though. Hope it's true.

how's life, Thursday, 15 March 2018 12:21 (three years ago) link

I always thought Buffalo Stance was a weird-ass song so the fact that it started as a remix makes a lot of sense

had (crüt), Thursday, 15 March 2018 13:34 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

nice review from maura

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/neneh-cherry-raw-like-sushi/

omar little, Monday, 2 April 2018 04:15 (three years ago) link

does anybody know who directed the Buffalo Stance music video? is it the same person who did this Sinead O'Connor/MC Lyte vid? are there other music videos from this era that are in this style?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W7u7g7oV68

had (crüt), Monday, 2 April 2018 04:23 (three years ago) link

yeah, same guy. he did loads of Sinead videos, from Troy for a decade or so onward. The No Clause 28 video is totally in the same style, as was Neneh's Kisses On The Wind, but in black & white.

the two videos from Jamie J Morgan's solo album might hit the spot for you, too.

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 2 April 2018 07:33 (three years ago) link

(No Clause 28 is by Boy George, and Jamie J is the Morgan of Morgan / McVey.)

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Monday, 2 April 2018 07:34 (three years ago) link

I was looking up the genesis of Lara Croft after seeing the new film and the Wikipedia entry mentions that Neneh Cherry was one of the models for her. Which seemed odd.

Stevolende, Monday, 2 April 2018 12:41 (three years ago) link

the links in the second and third paragraph of that review made me get a very late start on actual work today. Now I know tons of stuff about Ray Petri, Jamie Morgan, and The Face magazine.

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 April 2018 15:23 (three years ago) link

so dont. you get fresh with me.

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Monday, 2 April 2018 15:36 (three years ago) link

No style rookie
You better watch don’t mess with me

Rudy’s Mood For Dub (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 2 April 2018 16:49 (three years ago) link

Don't remember this thread---great to see the love on here for The Cherry Thing as well as Raw Like Sushi. Saw collection of TCT remixes on discogs; anybody heard those?
I liked The Blank Project Deluxe, which does incl. mixes, though it's overall chilly (in the creepy Ballardian sense, incl. murky allusions verbal and aural) *and* tending to fairly lengthy tracks in medium tempo, that I've never really warmed up to it---overall, but for instance opener "Across The Water," which might be about her kid, got me right away.

I've still got Rip Rig & Panic's I Am Cold and Attitude somewhere---need to dig those up and get more RRP and related:
https://www.discogs.com/artist/27501-Rip-Rig-Panic

This review of Mark Springer's 2017 collection looks promising:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/13/mark-springer-circa-rip-rig-panic-review-fascinating-freeform-jazz-that-never-loses-its-way

dow, Monday, 2 April 2018 20:52 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

new song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efTqhft8yCk

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 15:16 (three years ago) link

produced by Four Tet and 3D of Massive Attack

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 15:16 (three years ago) link

You can certainly hear 3D's input. Track would have fitted right in on Mezzanine.

Jeff W, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 15:48 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

new album broken politics out october 19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGrXaPLX0PU

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:24 (three years ago) link

and you may find yourself listening to "Shot Gun Shack"

geoffreyess, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:14 (three years ago) link

Great news! Blank Project still one of my faves of the decade.

geoffreyess, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:15 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Out today! Get thee to a record store.

geoffreyess, Friday, 19 October 2018 14:22 (three years ago) link

album rules. way more actively pretty than blank project which i'm into

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:05 (three years ago) link

I've got something longer going up soon but I gotta say it disappointed me compared to Blank Project, which now sounds like it didn't just presage this cultural moment but is OF this moment.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:06 (three years ago) link

I agree with Alfred here. Blank seems more urgent to me and just generally better. I like the new one, just not as much.

akm, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:28 (three years ago) link

I was half-listening to it the other day while reading and the sudden air horn cracked me up

coetzee.cx (wins), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:32 (three years ago) link

"Natural Skin Deep"? That's one of the good ones. I blasted it this morning.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 16:48 (three years ago) link

I like this a lot. Agree about the urgency, it feels altogether more worked over / less spontaneous than Blank Project, but in a way that the instruments (vibraphone!) require. The albums feel like opposites in many ways, or maybe complementary. I feel like something interesting would happen if you played them simultaneously.

geoffreyess, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:45 (three years ago) link

It's quieter than Blank Project (and Brad is right about it being "actively pretty") - I was expecting from the pre-release leak tracks an artier version of Homebrew whereas it's more like an artier version of Man: perhaps that album if more of the Tricky collaborations and less of the MOR-gestures had made it on there. It's very dense and layered and involving.

Tim F, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 22:54 (three years ago) link

Not enough chatter about this LP. OK, literally everyone good has put out something in the last 2 weeks. Even so.

Jeff W, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:11 (three years ago) link

"Slow Release" is, accidentally or not, a good summation of the whole.

Jeff W, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:14 (three years ago) link

i love “black monday” and “faster than the truth”

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 03:03 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

A few live tracks from her, at Le Guess Who festival in Holland:

- https://soundcloud.com/leguesswho/sets/neneh-cherry-live-at-le-guess-who-2018

sbahnhof, Sunday, 13 January 2019 02:13 (two years ago) link

nice, someone posted an aud recording of her in LA a couple months back to dime, i've had it in my "to listen" queue

Sigur Ros or Pomplamoose type shit (rushomancy), Sunday, 13 January 2019 02:57 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Hope they record together:

Energized by Neneh Cherry's great set -- with guests Denardo Coleman and @angeltheoracle -- at @BlankForms' benefit. We want more more more pic.twitter.com/CeFS4vxXcv

— David Grubbs (@blackfaurest) November 19, 2021

... (Eazy), Friday, 19 November 2021 05:04 (one week ago) link

I'm still trying to get my hands on the stems for this so I can do an hour long Prins Thomas-style extended remix of this song.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 19 November 2021 12:43 (one week ago) link

Just the outro looped for 15 minutes

ignore the blue line (or something), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:43 (one week ago) link


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