Queen: Classic Or Dud

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I know you probably don't like them. I mean, *I* don't like them. But why you don't like them might prove interesting...

Tom, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Apart from the bombast of their mix of heavy rock and 'classical' elements, more than anything it's the fact that they appeal to morons. I just don't 'like' the kind of people who like them (they are of the same *type* as fans of U2, latter-day Rolling Stones, Tina Turner, Oasis - people who are drawn more to celebrity and giant spectacle than anything else).

David, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'd say Classic for their 70s singles (and "Radio Ga Ga"), Dud for most of the rest. They might have been a bombastic stadium-rock band, but a very unique and bizarre one.

Patrick, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

You gotta respect Queen! They are as classic as Kiss and Meatloaf! I can see myself buying their greatest hits one day soon...so yeah, classic.

jel, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Name me one other band so dedicated to over-the-top bombast without seeming pretentious about it. It all may have looked pretentious, sure, but it was all about flash and entertainment, and not even Kiss could do that great a job with it. They were dedicated to putting on a show, not deep thoughts, and that's why they worked where someone like, say, Yes does not. I'll take the first five or so albums without reservation and selected goodies from most of the rest.

Regarding being liked by morons, etc. -- if I had judge all fans based on the majority of those I've encountered, I would have to call Belle and Sebastian fans all a bunch of annoying, stuck-up, blinkered elitist fucks, for instance. That I know a number of fans of said band who do *not* resemble this description in the slightest demonstrates the worth of not being so categorical. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Well, I was having a conversation with a Queen fan last Friday and well he wasnt a moron but he never once spoke about their music. He just went on a bout the fact that they had the biggest concert ever. '250,000 in Rio de Janeiro!!'....Yeah, big deal...

Michael Bourke, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Classic I fear, indeed great singles in the 70s, also a band that never feared ridicule (Bicycle Race). But I am really sick of hearing every single song. Jesus, you can't go to a football match without hearing We Are The Bloody Champions. I think the only album I would remotely like these days would be the Queen-go-synth 'n disco 'The Game'. Well there goes my ILM status.

Omar, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

It all may have looked pretentious, sure, but it was all about flash and entertainment

I don't think of Queen as pretentious. It's actually the flash & entertainment I don't like.

Regarding being liked by morons, etc. -- if I had judge all fans based on the majority of those I've encountered, I would have to call Belle and Sebastian fans all a bunch of annoying, stuck-up, blinkered elitist fucks, for instance. That I know a number of fans of said band who do *not* resemble this description in the slightest demonstrates the worth of not being so categorical

OK this was an exaggeration on my part, although I didn't actually say that all their fans were morons, but that the band appealed to morons (ie they undoubtedly appeal to others as well, but morons - or something approaching that - do form a considerable part of their following).

David, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

They epitomise the decline of a certain type of British rock music; having hit the scene just after experimentation had been largely jettisoned and AOR had set in, they later symbolised all the most contemptibly macho elements of 80s corporate / stadium rock. So, yeah, dud, but "39" is one of my greatest guilty pleasures; its reflection on time and context is the only interesting lyric they ever perpetrated, and one which fits more in the brief "lost golden age" that predates Queen, than in the era of flashy bombast which they ushered in.

I should have entered that in the absolving thread, actually ...

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

They're obviously a dud but they're still fantastic just because of how ridiculous they are. I mean, Freddie Mercury, for fuck's sake. How can you really truly not give them a classic-for-being-such-a-dud rating, actually? THey are classically awful. They weren't just satisfied with being not-that-good. They wanted to be the absolute worst. Admirable goal, and quite a lot of their songs are admirable from that stand point alone.

As for this moron business: quite frankly, every single band in the world that ever achieved even 10 album sales appeals to morons, because the majority of the world are morons. And I can't help but think that someone who has decided that U2, Tina Turner, and Oasis (plus Queen) SPECIFICALLY appeal to morons - considering Tina Turner is a fantastically good singer, for instance, makes the whole thing a bit odd - falls into the group. What a blithely ridiculous thing to say. It was a thing to say that was SO DUD IT'S CLASSIC. So it fits in the end. Hurrah.

Ally, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Meat Loaf was much better than Queen!!

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 15 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

What is respectable about Queen? They weren't just Freddy Mercury. Brian May wrote many songs (We Will Rock You) and so did Roger Taylor and John Deacon (Another One BItes the Dust, Your My Best Friend). SO they all contributed. As well, they WERE a bombastic stadium rock band. IN the magic tour of 86, they played almost every concert to 100,000 people plus. Live Aid, need I say more. Bohemian Rhapsody is an amazing recording and song. They had a unique blend of premetal and glam rock which no other band had. Even their 80s transition was different from all else. As for influences, they are the uncredited force towards some of the 80s metal scene (Joe Elliot said he and Rick Savage just wanted to be Queen and nothing else when they were growing up). Freddy Mercury had an amazing voice that delivered a vocal a second to none. Brian May built his own guitar and had a very unique style. Very respected. They were over the top and almost pompous, but never over the fans and pretentious. In my opinion, classic, by far.

ps-It doesn't hurt to pick up an album besides the greatest hits albums. Try Sheer Heart Attack, News of the World, or Night at the Opera

Luptune Pitman, Thursday, 15 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Brian May has excellent taste in guitars. He was playing Silvertones before Cat Power if you can believe that! I can't, so dud.

Steven James, Thursday, 15 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

the majority of the world are morons. And I can't help but think that someone who has decided that U2, Tina Turner, and Oasis (plus Queen) SPECIFICALLY appeal to morons - considering Tina Turner is a fantastically good singer, for instance, makes the whole thing a bit odd - falls into the group.

OK I should never have used the word 'morons' because it's an exaggeration, and because it would seem to anyone on this forum that likes Queen that I'm insulting them personally.

Nevertheless, the artists I listed do have something in common - a rabble-rousing mass appeal that attracts large numbers of a certain kind of person (who is more comfortable with things that lots of other people like).

As to Tina Turner being a "fantastic singer", that's debatable. She has a powerful voice and no doubt puts on a good live show. But that isn't really relevant to my original comments about why I dislike Queen (who are themselves great musicians and have recorded some rock/pop classics).

David, Thursday, 15 March 2001 01:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Like Lazarus rising from the Dead!

I'm largely in agreement with Ned Raggett's assessment. Queen's Seventies albums (well, the stuff before Jazz) are something of a guilty pleasure. Lotsa good stuff on Night at the Opera and News of the World. And the first minute or so of "Death on Two Legs" is an indisputable classic -- Sonic Youth would kill (or they should kill) for an entrée like that one; the nasty bitchiness of the lyrics is a plus too. And "39" is the best song McCartney never recorded. Also, anyone who likes the Smashing Pumpkins fan claims to hate Queen is either deaf, stupid, a hypocrite, or some combination thereof.

Minus: overplay of their songs, most of their Eighties output.

p.s.: The back-and-forth on "their fans are morons" is some of the funniest shit I've read yet. LMAO.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I'd like to say Queen are classic for the exact reasons Ally brought up, but the question 'Weren't they taking themselves seriously?' prevents this. Don't you think that after a certain point they started believing their fans. Sure, they had alot of fun in the eighties, (I have a soft spot for Hot Space) turning out songs like 'Pain is so close to Pleasure' without cracking up. But as far as I can see their humour was on display,(last line of One Vision), blatant not ironic. But whenever I saw them, their spectacle was serious rock, the jokes and humour had their place in the set, but never touched the question of whether they were straight or not. Surely, the only redeeming gag. They weren't laughing at us, or with us. In fact I don't think they were laughing at all. Shame, cause they're such a joke.

K-reg, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

"39" is very McCartney, yes. Better than any Wings track or any other Queen track, as well. What a one-off moment of genius.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 22 May 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
you people are very strange, but hey that isn't my problem >:(

Simon, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Well hey, you're not ours. :-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

To what deep thoughts was Yes dedicated?

sundar subramanian, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Considering they devoted a double album to a footnote in a biography of a yogi...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i love ^hot space^. queen greatest hits = second albm evah bort

a-33, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, up until 1980. Terrible dud beyond that, though there are a couple of good songs in there.

dleone, Monday, 25 February 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Definitely Classic.... their early 70's stuff was amazing. Never victims of doing what other people wanted them to do! Listen to Queen, Queen II and Sheer Heart Attack, some of the most original and well put together music. Over the top?? (what does that mean these days??) I think musicians generally are creative.. some more than others. At least Queen did their own thing. No company would sign them so they posted a copy of keep yourself alive to as many radio stations and tv stations. Their persistance paid off and bam they had been heard. But only till sheer heart attack did they make it. But, listen to Queen and Queen II to hear the brilliance of their musical minds. Its not everyones cup of tea.

As for the morons debate well i think your generalising a bit mate. Dont ask me what i think about metalheads... death metal, country and wester, most r&B, I think you will find morons in any category of music in fact i will back up what a previous post mentioned and say that generally people are stupid. (is that generalising?) and to a lot of people I am but who cares!

Queen Rock... one of the timeless classic bands.. never to be seen again as processed pop (or should I say marketed pop) takes over. Its now sadly a teenage girl industry. Makes me sick!

Gladdyator, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

queen rule the world u bunch of donkey raping shit eaters.

fallenhammer, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

At least Queen did their own thing.

Much as I like them, not entirely. Listen to those early Sparks records. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

As for the morons debate well i think your generalising a bit mate.

My comments were stupid and I retracted them.

David, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

So, non queen fans like Hot Space, generally considered thier worst album, and yet slag off all the classics?

Kathryn, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hi there, I can now judge Queen objectively(for many years I thought that EVERYTHING they ever did was great!)Now I feel that the albums from "Queen" to "A Day at the Races" are classics,but by the time of "News of the World" they were starting to get a bit jaded(with the better tracks mostly appearing on the albums,with the odd exception like"Don't Stop Me Now" and "Crazy Little"/"Another One Bites"). After the success of the latter,they went totally down the disco road with "Hot Space",but with weaker songs(with the exception of the interesting Bowie collaboration "Under Pressure":this was recorded in 1981,thus being written before Queen OR Bowie lost it;-)(Bowie only regained it to any degree with "1:Outside",but really "Scary Monsters.." was his last great album))"The Works" was also recorded for the wrong reasons:"Queen-by-numbers"to please the fans(but "Radio Gaga" and "I Want to Break Free" are OK).Also had a few more good songs in the 80's,but the increasing scale of their live performances and more solo projects were more in keeping with that decade("Was It All Worth It?"is brilliant,though).1991's "Innuendo" was largely a return to form(Freddie was dying at this stage,and strangely that seemed to focus the band on creating an epic),but 1995's"Made In Heaven" was ill-advised.Still have a soft spot for Roger's"Fun In Space"LP from 81;-)

Harry Hussey, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Hey, I saw Brian May playing 'Now I'm Here' with the fucking Foo Fighters a couple of years ago, and he hadn't changed a bit. Roger Taylor had tho'. He was so fat the roadies lowered him onto the drumstool just so he could play the big roll at the end. Never could stand Queen myself, the band saved by Live Aid who wrote a song about that (horrible) day and donated zero pence of the profits to charidee. But compared to their natural peers (Elton John, George Michael, Robbie Williams) they had a certain amount of style.

Snotty Moore, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Surely the logical conclusion of Brit-glam and interesting how they ascended as the Sweet declined - the ghost of Brian Connolly lurks behind the ghost of Mercury!

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Kathryn's email address is like the definitive fanboy/girl address, ever.

Marcello: Britglam? Absolutely. "You're My Best Friend" RoXoR. But I still can't think of a worse example of 80s fascism of size. Apart from Opus, maybe. Ah, enter Laibach :).

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
by the power of eris i cast REVIVE!

undoubtedly classique, especially period between long hair silver jump suit freddie and suspicious moustache de-closeted freddie aka sheer heart attack => a night at the opera => a day at the races => news of the world => jazz best run of consecutive albums EVAH?

schnellschnell, Friday, 28 March 2003 16:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

prog rock with sweet bombast and a smile

schnellschnell, Friday, 28 March 2003 16:27 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

CLASSIC!!!!!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 28 March 2003 18:41 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Classic for the sole reason that Freddy Mercury is, to hillbillies, the one exception they have to make when it comes to homosexuals.

"I don't care much for them fairies... but Freddy Mercury did fuckin rock."

They occasionally make the same comment about the guy from Judas Preist.

David Allen, Friday, 28 March 2003 20:21 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wasn't Queen the model for Spinal Tap?

Burr (Burr), Friday, 28 March 2003 20:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Wasn't Queen the model for Spinal Tap?
-- Burr (dburr...), March 28th, 2003.


It was a mix of bands, but mostly Iron Maiden.

David Allen, Friday, 28 March 2003 21:17 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. DUH.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 28 March 2003 23:06 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Biggest model for Spinal Tap = Saxon.

Anyone who dares deem Queen a dud has lost control of his/her senses, and ought to be dunked in a barrel of rancid milk until reason reclaims its rightful iron fist on the steering wheel of their brain bus.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 28 March 2003 23:15 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

HONOUR THE BICYCLE!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 March 2003 15:36 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I refuse. Frankly, I hate the Bicycle Race/Fat Bottomed Girls single. There's a reason after Jazz Freddie cut his hair and they brought the synths in.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:19 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not anti-gay or homophobic or anything but I hate the 'extreme faggot' kind who want to show their gayness of in all ways possible. Mercury was one of those. I simply can't stand the character. It's way too over the top, as is the music. Which is simply overrated. I hate Bohemian Rhapsody, never understood why it always tops the 'best ever' charts.

Tijn, Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:37 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Oh man, I say it with total respect and admiration when I say Freddie Mercury was one EXTREME FAGGOT!

Buy "Hot Space". I'm curious what Tijn would make of that album.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:40 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I used to totally agree with Tijn's above statement, and I'm gay! I'm really starting to warm up to them now, which is promising for my own self-awareness as well. "Over the top" is and always was their reason for being.

The Bicycle Race/Fat Bottomed Girls is lucicrous, preposterous, beyond words. Also catchy, funny, and genius (or at least crafty).

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:46 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

that was meant to be "ludicrous"... Also, there's no question Mercury was an extreme faggot! I'm particularly amused by his transition from eyebrow-plucked lame wearing fairy to mustachioed leather-bar queen... considering their enormous popularity I wonder how many people really saw the humor in the music AND the image.

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:49 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

and, natch, you're supposed to see the accent over the 'e' in lame above; that's in 'gold lame' darlings...

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:50 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ha! I mean their very name was Queen! Geddit??

Sean (Sean), Saturday, 29 March 2003 17:51 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Who cares about Freddy's "extreme gayness" (that makes it sound like a sexual orientation that requires a safety helmet at all times). Q U E E N R O C K E D, and if you can't appreciate that -- you lead a bland, colorless, and humorless life.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 March 2003 20:29 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

but, Alex. I'd argue that Freddie's extremeness (which may well have been inspired by cock frenzy - who am I to say?), is a major reason that the band rocked!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 29 March 2003 20:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

TOLD MY GIRL I HAD TO FORGET HER!
RATHER BUY ME A NEW CARBURETTOR!

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:53 (four years ago) Permalink

TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN! TIE YOUR MOTHER DOWN! TAKE YOUR LITTLE BROTHER SWIMMIN' WITH A BRICK, YEAH, THAT'S ALRIGHT!

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 01:13 (four years ago) Permalink

day at the races! such a great album...

no one should be offended by the lyrics in this song (stevie), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:33 (four years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

I'm so glad that Google have been archiving all the old posts to Usenet newsgroups (the earliest message archived on there, apparently, is from 1981) ... I've spent about an hour or so on it trying to research actual conversations/responses to various historic events that have happened from 1981 onwards.

Anyhow, I came across this conversation archived from 12th November 1991 (less than two weeks before Mercury's passing) in which people are speculating what's going on with regards to Mercury's health. Here's another conversation from 13th November 1991-21st November 1991 in which people eerily discuss rumours that he might have AIDS.

Also, there's this earlier conversation from 9th September 1991, where there seems to have been a rumour that Freddie had passed away - one user claims to have called Hollywood Records and spoken to a PR man about Freddie's health, another is convinced that the rumours of Freddie's death happened because the Innuendo album was full of hints that Freddie was dying (which in hindsight, he was OTM about), and that the record company were trying to intentionally capitalise on this by intentionally starting a rumour that Freddie was dying in order to boost sales of then-recent Queen reissues (which, it's fair to say, he was nowhere near OTM about) ...

Finally, there's this conversation from 1st September 1991 regarding (again) rumours that Freddie had passed away, but it's peppered with comments such as "In any recent interviews (which would almost all be with Brian May the guitar player) they claim that Freddie is fine. And that these stories are simply rumours and for us not to worry." (it's now known that Brian May was deliberately lying to the press to protect Freddie from media intrusion) and "I strongly suspect Mr Mercury is actually alive and kicking due to a photo of him in a British newspaper last week (Thursday) He looked very thin but alive."

It's weird reading all of this stuff, it has to be said.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 24 June 2015 20:46 (two years ago) Permalink

lol @ the debate about if ted nugent is gay or not

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 June 2015 00:21 (two years ago) Permalink

four months pass...

So what's the deal has Queen always been as big as they are now, or did they experience a dip? They seem to be the most loved rock band (alongside Radiohead & the BeatLEs) amongst Rodditors today, but as a teen in the Early 2000s there couldn't have been an uncooler band to be into... sure, everyone knew their hits but they were on par with Kiss: just another shlocky classic rock band. Have they undergone a revival is this just a case of culture shock?

Adam J Duncan, Thursday, 12 November 2015 04:43 (two years ago) Permalink

dud

hunangarage, Thursday, 12 November 2015 04:47 (two years ago) Permalink

smh at the thought of anyone ever putting Queen in the same bracket as Kiss.

Turrican, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:13 (two years ago) Permalink

I love Kiss but yeah, that's insane to me.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 November 2015 06:05 (two years ago) Permalink

> tfw outsnobbed ILM

Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 14 November 2015 03:09 (two years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...

Some of Brian May's recent posts on his official website have been a bit worrying, with talk of feeling "depleted" and "battling a persistent illness" ... his most recent post mentions switching off from all media and resting in a "safe place" ... here's wishing Dr. May a speedy recovery, whatever it is.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Friday, 28 October 2016 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, get well Dr. May!

Also, Queen=dud. Or at least dud beyond most of the hits (and even half of them are riff-kitsch). I was talking to a friend last night, and he was ripping on Beyonce, saying it took six songwriters or whatever to come up with [name of some song], and then he brings up fucking "Bohemian Rhapsody" and goes, "and that's just one songwriter!" And I was like, first of all, the song may be awesome but it also kind of sucks, and its lyrics suck, and even if you like it it's nothing to hold up as the epitome of anything beyond lots of different well-recorded and arranged parts in one song, and even then, most Queen albums suck (I assume), so yeah, make fun of Beyonce's musical sweatshop, fair enough, but do better than Queen as your counterpoint.

He also defended Journey. But then a few minutes later got all quiet and asked "am I the only one who doesn't like the Eagles?" And I said, "fuck no, tons of people HATE the Eagles!" And he was really relieved, saying "Phew, I thought I was the only one!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2016 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink

Journey also well worth defending FYI

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 28 October 2016 20:14 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd rather listen to Journey instead of Queen, no question

Οὖτις, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Brian's spoken recently about suffering from depression, I'm guessing that's what he's referring to

Also, Queen rule. Especially Sheer Heart Attack and Day At The Races.

Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Friday, 28 October 2016 20:23 (one year ago) Permalink

I mean, Beyonce rules too.

Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Friday, 28 October 2016 20:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Queen is great. However, the fast version of "We Will Rock You" feels wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekm6WtKwQos

EZ Snappin, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:25 (one year ago) Permalink

Assuming they are defensible at all, I refuse to believe that Queen or Journey, let alone the Eagles, are "good" beyond their hits. I guess I like Stone Cold crazy, that wasn't a hit right?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Queen are better than just their hits, at least in the 70s. One of the great album-track bands of all time. Not even sure what you mean by Bohemian "may be awesome but it sucks" Rhapsody either. Unless you're actually Dave Marsh from 1979 quantum leap'd onto 2016 ILM, in which case, that's a hell of a story.

Dominique, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Not the biggest Queen fan, but after a dozen years on ILM like to think I know better then to go onto a thread of such a band and put down their entire output. Treading very lightly on the American Music Club thread as well.

Funkateers for Fears (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 October 2016 20:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Ha, I mostly meant it as a joke. It's a classic or dud thread! I love the idea that anyone can go into a thread and just say "dud." There's always something to like, even with Queen.

xpost I mean I think much of the pleasure of it transcends "good" or "bad." Kinda kitsch, but still seriously rocks, but still can't take it seriously, but still fun. Like a good novelty song, imo. I know I've heard a couple of their albums, but I've never had anything really jump out at me, except some proto metal-esque riffing in maybe Queen II? They just kind of make me feel a little queasy. Too much and yet not enough. Certainly they have their place.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2016 20:48 (one year ago) Permalink

this raised my interest in Queen enough to listen to the In The Studio with Redbeard Interview on "The Game"

and was O_o at not knowing Michael Jackson persuaded them to release Bites the Dust as a single (+ WBLS may've played a role somewhere that July/August)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXDH5ag4lI

PappaWheelie V, Friday, 28 October 2016 21:55 (one year ago) Permalink

If I was alive in the 70s I'd probably hate Queen as much as I hate Beyonce. Pretty much the same thing if you think about it. Obvious, stupid music.

punksishippies, Friday, 28 October 2016 23:51 (one year ago) Permalink

music kills enjoyment
*dead*

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 October 2016 00:22 (one year ago) Permalink

a band can still be "classic" even if they never release a good album

brimstead, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:08 (one year ago) Permalink

I like Journey's hits a lot more than Queen's

1st Journey album is fuckin rad

brimstead, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:25 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd rather listen to Journey instead of Queen, no question

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 28, 2016 4:18 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

belongs in the GTFO Hall of Fame it does

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Assuming they are defensible at all, I refuse to believe that Queen or Journey, let alone the Eagles, are "good" beyond their hits.

man whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

I'm not big on Queen I (though "Keep Yourself Alive" and "Liar" are good), but Queen II is fantastic almost front to back, as is Sheer Heart Attack and Night at the Opera. you shoulda seen how we were geeking out in the Queen poll about deep cuts.

Neanderthal, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:33 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd rather listen to Journey instead of Queen, no question

― Οὖτις, Friday, October 28, 2016 4:18 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

belongs in the GTFO Hall of Fame it does

― Neanderthal, Friday, October 28, 2016 10:31 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shit I even silently sided w/ shakey over being callus on the RIP of Anna Nicole but this is just blatent bad taste

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 October 2016 02:57 (one year ago) Permalink

There's excellent deep cuts on pretty much all of Queen's studio albums, and a lot of singles that didn't even make it onto either Greatest Hits or Greatest Hits II.

pen pineapple apple pen (Turrican), Saturday, 29 October 2016 12:40 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'll give them another shot (for the record: Queen is not dud, they are silly, but so is a lot of music.) It's tough, because like a handful of bands Queen is not really about "hits," as such, but AOR monoliths (a la Zeppelin). Maybe because those monoliths are so, well, monolithic, that explains why I've never been able to get into them as an album act? When you have "Bohemian Rhapsody" on an album, it tends to overshadow things. (That's probably why it's at the end.) Anyway, I know I saw the "Night at the Opera" classic albums doc, which means I've heard a few deep cuts for sure, but looking at the track list I think I recognize (beside "Best Friend" ) "Car" and "39." Will relisten next week. Looks like I even own the records! I recall liking Queen II (which is all deep cuts?) and Sheer Heart Attack.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 13:48 (one year ago) Permalink

My opinions about Queen are well documented here: why did rock critics hate Queen so much in the 1970s/80s? for those who care

Οὖτις, Saturday, 29 October 2016 15:29 (one year ago) Permalink

duke, i deeply care but it's not the destination; it's the Journey

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 29 October 2016 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIcdj4UH9u0

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 20:55 (one year ago) Permalink

(No comment on Queen, someone just forwarded me this trove. I've yet to make it though any of them! Earth Wind and Fire one was particularly rough.)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 20:57 (one year ago) Permalink

wow, thanks for introducing me to shittyflute

here we are now entertain us (snoball), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:02 (one year ago) Permalink

like a primary school recorder class meets the Portsmouth Sinfonia.

here we are now entertain us (snoball), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Probably the Queen song I hate the most:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BmL_HZdqbg

here we are now entertain us (snoball), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:08 (one year ago) Permalink

'We Are The Champions'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e61lGbGeu8

here we are now entertain us (snoball), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:17 (one year ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

Also - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOZuIV2FZTc

MaresNest, Monday, 4 September 2017 19:23 (eight months ago) Permalink

Interesting that this one is getting the anniversary treatment.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 4 September 2017 19:37 (eight months ago) Permalink

Would much rather have deluxe overdose editions of day at the races and sheer heart attack

I am a paying customer, who is very cordial and pleasant to talk to (stevie), Monday, 4 September 2017 19:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I agree!

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Monday, 4 September 2017 19:52 (eight months ago) Permalink

eight months pass...

hm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7X6le5qmE

piscesx, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:52 (one week ago) Permalink

I mean, I've seen worse?

https://i.imgur.com/rMHrPim.jpg

pplains, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 15:51 (one week ago) Permalink

The Freddie in this BBC production isn't terrible, though his moustache is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xipkQboBAE

dinnerboat, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:19 (one week ago) Permalink

looks pretty hacky tbh, can't imagine the one-two of a decent mid-length doc and a concert film wouldn't be 10x better

Simon H., Tuesday, 15 May 2018 17:24 (one week ago) Permalink

I thought the Days of Our Lives doc was decent, but could have been better. I think the definitive Queen doc is yet to be made and I think the quality of it would be down to how much the band members feel comfortable about revealing and John Deacon's involvement.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:26 (one week ago) Permalink

As long as the movie's second half covers 'Nazis 1994' and music May wrote for Timothy Spall's 'Frank Stubbs Promotes' then I'll be satisfied

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 22:08 (one week ago) Permalink


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