Marvin Gaye POX

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Was just sort of idly thinking about this recently. I think the first six are unquestionable:

1. Ain't That Peculiar
2. Can I Get a Witness
3. Heard it Through the Grapevine
4. Let's Get It On
5. What's Going On
6. Mercy Mercy Me

Then things get murky.

7. Sexual Healing

It sounds dated but I think there is still a fantastic song under the cheesy sounds.

8-10. ?

After that I just don't know. There are some fine-ass gospel sounds in his early career but nothing nearly as grittily good as "Can I Get a Witness." And I've always found the duets a Bit Much. Even "Ain't no Mountain High Enough," which is nicely groovy, doesn't rise to the level of his solo performances.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The 808 dominates Sexual Healing, which I think is a sound more en vogue now than ever.

I've lately come to prefer the duets, although I went through a long period of solo worship.

I'm actually over my fascination of What's GOing On as a whole album. I get bored right around "who'll save the world" portion.

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I'll Be Doggone
Ain't No Mountain High Enough
You're All I Need To Get By
I Heard It Through The Grapevine
What's Going On
Mercy Mercy Me
Trouble Man
You Sure Love To Ball
When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You
Sexual Healing

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:29 (fourteen years ago) link

lately come to prefer the duets

Meh. Tammi's a very good singer, but having her on the same track as Marvin is like having a Yugo at the Indy 500. In my view, his vocal performance simply outclasses hers, as it would outclass pretty much anyone's.

Dude never phoned in so much as a pizza order.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Completely disagree on the Tammi assessment; I think she more than holds her own on most of those duets.

I Want You
I Heard It Through the Grapevine
You
Mercy Mercy Me
Ain't No Mountain High Enough
My Mistake (Was to Love You)
When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You
Sexual Healing
Lonely Lover
Trouble Man

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link

no Got to Give it Up???

()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

ok remove fuck ok POXI for me

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't believe I forgot that

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Midnight Lady
Sexual Healing
Rockin' After Midnight
'Til Tomorrow
Turn On Some Music
Third World Girl
Joy
My Love Is Waiting
Rockin' After Midnight (Instrumental)
Third World Girl

that's all of the Mightnight Love lp plus Third World Girl again because i can't get enough of that song. i'm a huge marvin fan, but this one really sticks out to me as being my favorite and i know it'll probably piss a few people off, but whatever. eat it.

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I really need to get more full-lengths. Is that posthumous album with all the crass stuff worth checking out?

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link

This is v. interesting. Had no idea there was so much love for mid-to-late Marvin. I thought there'd be more votes for "Stubborn Kind of Fellow" and whatnot.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

T Plays it Cool...

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link

Stubborn Kind of Fellow
Ain't That Peculiar
Pride and Joy
Chained
Let's Get it On
Can I Get A Witness
Trouble Man
Sexual Healing
Too Busy Thinkin Bout My Baby
How Sweet it Is


Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:49 (fourteen years ago) link

MP - I very nearly included "Stubborn Kind of Fellow" and "Too Busy Thinking About My Baby," but then I'd have to go to POXV. In general I take '70s soul over early '60s soul just for the improved production values.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

haha, I swear I had "Stubborn Kind of Fellow" first on there before I read that comment.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, Scott CE with the save (and I believe you, of course).

"How Sweet it Is" shoulda been my #8.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

No love for Tammi here, I see. The duets with her are pretty undeniably classic, the ones with Kim Weston et al not so much.

And nobody's mentioned "One More Heartache" or "Distant Lover" yet? Wow.

JAS, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I picked two Tammi tracks!

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

OR "Wonderful One."

JAS, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm embarassing to say that I can't POX so I'm not even going to try, but Sexual Healing is def. #1.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Incidentally, if you ever find yourselves in DC, there's a warehouse on New York Avenue with a mural of Marvin on it. A nod to one of the city's better exports.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I really think the best Marvin Gaye comp is "Super Hits," the one with the cartoon him in the cape. There is not ONE song on there I don't rate as a classic. I think it's out of print, but pretty easy to find (and only really covers the first period).

That mural is great!

Scott CE (Scott CE), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

got to give it up
ain't that peculiar
ain't no mountain high enough
after the dance
trouble man
i heard it thru the grapevine
symphony
can i get a witness
ego tripping out
let's get it on

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Trouble Man
When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You
What's Happening Brother
Got to Give It Up
Third World Girl
One More Heartache
I Heard It Through the Grapevine
Keep On Lovin' Me Honey (w/ Tammi)
Yesterday
The Star-Spangled Banner

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Dude! No "Inner City Blues"? A glaring ommission.

In no particular order

Trouble Man
Distant Lover
What's Going On?
Let's Get It On
Inner City Blues
You're All I Need to Get By
Grapevine
Mercy Mercy Me
That's The Way Love Is
You

And the warehouse painting on New York Ave. is great. Perfect picture of Marvin.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

AAARGH - i forgot his 'star spangled banner'!!!!!!!!!

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

I had "ICB" on there, but subbed the other track in at the last minute.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

well that's just so undeniably awesome it need not even be listed
xpost

()ops (()()ps), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Hitchhike
Too Busy Thinking ‘Bout My Baby
Gonna Keep On Trying Til I Win Your Love
Ain't That Peculiar
Can I Get a Witness
I Heard it Through the Grapevine
I’ll Be Doggone
Sexual Healing
Inner City Blues
Baby Don’t You Do It

Burr (Burr), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

not a huge fan of the Tammi/Marvin duets in an absolute sense, but pretty sexy anyway, right? And fuck, I think that their

1. Good Lovin' Ain't Easy to Come By is one incredible production...
2. Trouble Man (as a kid, this is the one that really grabbed me and got me into Marvin)
3. Anger (from his best album, "Here, My Dear")
4. Got to Give It Up
5. Hitch Hike
6. T Plays It Cool
7. I'm in Love (from that LP of prev unreleased Motown tracks that came out around '88 or so)
8. Grapevine
9. A Funky Space Reincarnation
10. Inner City Blues

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

"Anger!"

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 12 May 2005 00:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I was wondering if anyone was gonna go for "Funky Space Reincarnation" or "Ego Tripping." I am fascinated by them but don't like them as much as I want to.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 12 May 2005 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Is that Enough?
Trouble Man
Inner City Blues
I Want You
When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You?
What`s Going on?
I Heard it Through the Grapevine
Let`s Get it on
What's the Matter with You, Baby?
Got to Give You up (Part 1)
You Are Everything
Can I Get a Witness?

djangojones (djangojones), Thursday, 12 May 2005 09:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Abraham, Martin and John
I Heard Through The Grapevine
MoreThan A Heart Can Stand
When Did You Stop Loving Me…
If I Could Build My Whole World Around You
When I Feel The Need
You
I Want You
We Can Make It
Save TheChildren

X nowhere near enough

wtin, Thursday, 12 May 2005 10:25 (fourteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Just a side note - the mural on New York Ave. is by G. Byron Peck. He also did the Duke Ellington Mural on U St. and the Fredrick Douglass one on Massachusetts, along with others all around the city.

Big Loud Mountain Ape (Big Loud Mountain Ape), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link

What mural on New York Ave.?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 12:23 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
Oh, I've seen that mural that includes Marvin Gaye and someone else, but I can't find any reference to it online, or that G. Byron Peck did it (google shows a a tour of Peck's murals including the Duke Ellington one this weekend but no reference to Gaye). Not doubting you Ape, it's weird I can't find a reference to it. Btw, there was an underpublicized special concert in Marvin Gaye Park in DC last weekend (formerly known as Watts Branch Park)at 5200 Foote Street NE, Washington, D.C., 20019

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 April 2007 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

trouble man
i heard it thru the grapevine
inner city blues
can i get a witness
i want you
t plays it cool
ain't no mountain high enough
got to give it up
youre all i need to get by
stepping closer to your heart

and what, Friday, 13 April 2007 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

i want you
trouble man
inner city blues

^^^top three for sure

deej, Friday, 13 April 2007 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

stubborn kind of fellow
hitch hike
ain't nothing like the real thing
i heard it through the grapevine
mercy mercy me (the ecology)
trouble man
distant lover
got to give it up (pt 1 & 2)
ego tripping out
sexual healing

m coleman, Saturday, 14 April 2007 11:31 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

In Our Lifetime is so fucking awesome

J0hn D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 10:44 (eleven years ago) link

also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvVzaQ6i8A

whatever the technical term is for when you lighten up a note and dial it back, when he does that on "stars" here it's like one of the greatest things ever

J0hn D., Tuesday, 15 January 2008 10:49 (eleven years ago) link

Edd, I just saw a "Soul Train" rerun that had everyone dancing to "Anger," even though it wasn't a single, I think.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

1. I Want You
2. This Love Starved Heart of Mine (It's Killing Me)
3. You
4. Ain't No Mountain High Enough
5. Too Busy Thinking About My Baby
6. Lonely Lover
7. When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You
8. Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)
9. Trouble Man
10. My Mistake

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

In Our Lifetime is so fucking awesome

-- J0hn D., Tuesday, January 15, 2008 4:44 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link

^^^this, esp "heavy love affair"

deej, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, I just got In Our Lifetime on vinyl like 3 days ago and I cannot stop listening to it!

Davey D, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Mark Anthony Neal on Nike using Marvin Gaye's 1983 take on the "Star Spangled Banner" at the NBA Allstar game in a new Nike ad that's running during the Olympics

http://blogs.vibe.com/man/2008/08/marvin-gayes-song-dance-for-nike/

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 August 2008 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

I can totally do this now that I've heard In Our Lifetime?

Eric H., Monday, 18 August 2008 05:58 (eleven years ago) link

which Marvin was produced by Leon Ware? I Want You. anyway, they've revived Stax and Leon Ware is on it, with this thing called Moon Ride, which is pretty contentless so far. But Ware's obviously been listening to Autechre, with song titles like "Smoovin'" followed by "Loceans." That Soul Train clip sounds incredible, dancing to "Anger." I guess the reissue of Here, My Dear has a disc of remixes ?

whisperineddhurt, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 03:40 (eleven years ago) link

Got To Give It Up
I Want To Be Where You Are [full version on I Want You deluxe edition]
Love Party / Dance 'n' Be Happy
Can I Get a Witness
Ego Trippin' Out
Inner City Blues
Joy
When Did You Stop Loving Me, When Did I Stop Loving You
Come Live With Me Angel
Life's A Game Of Give And Take

Eric H., Tuesday, 19 August 2008 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

1. Let's Get It On
2. Let's Get It On
3. Let's Get It On

...

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Tuesday, 19 August 2008 05:07 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Everyone needs a copy of In Our Lifetime.

balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 August 2010 02:34 (nine years ago) link

three years pass...

why wouldn't they mention what album it was?

owenf, Tuesday, 4 February 2014 13:39 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

http://www.wimp.com/isolatedvocal/

Marvin's vocal track for "I Heard it through the Grapevine"

curmudgeon, Saturday, 19 April 2014 17:33 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I would be cool with God is Love being played at my funeral

Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 19 June 2014 02:18 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

Everyone needs a copy of In Our Lifetime.

― balls and adieu (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, August 2, 2010 10:34 PM

I was right eight years ago.

You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 03:06 (eleven months ago) link

The chorus/“bridge” for “Funk Me” that begins at 1:25 might be my single favorite Marvin moment. The fact that it follows the most skeletal of refrains (“Funk me/Funk me”) only accentuates how glorious the whole section is – as does the fact that he never repeats it which I find thrilling and frustrating in equal parts.

Leave it soul’s weirdest dude to write the first and only through-composed homage to Rick James.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 November 2018 13:06 (eleven months ago) link

good point

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 November 2018 13:21 (eleven months ago) link

One of my favourite Marvin moments is at 3:42 on "You Can Leave" where he throws in a quick Bee Gees homage that amps up the track's disco funk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAsdUHJWz3Y

dinnerboat, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:11 (eleven months ago) link

The “So satisfy you baby/You have won the battle/Oh but/Daddy’s gonna win/The war” bit? It is awesome – and the climax of the album, I think.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:07 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah, that’s the part.

dinnerboat, Friday, 2 November 2018 22:32 (eleven months ago) link

Was just sort of idly thinking about this recently. I think the first six are unquestionable:

1. Ain't That Peculiar
2. Can I Get a Witness
3. Heard it Through the Grapevine
4. Let's Get It On
5. What's Going On
6. Mercy Mercy Me

Then things get murky.

7. Sexual Healing

It sounds dated but I think there is still a fantastic song under the cheesy sounds.

8-10. ?

After that I just don't know. There are some fine-ass gospel sounds in his early career but nothing nearly as grittily good as "Can I Get a Witness." And I've always found the duets a Bit Much. Even "Ain't no Mountain High Enough," which is nicely groovy, doesn't rise to the level of his solo performances.

― The Mad Puffin

This is pretty much my same top 6... I’d probably add “Where are we going” (although I think I like Donald Byrd’s version better) and “if this world were mine”. Are these not considered that good? Noone has mentioned them so far.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 2 November 2018 23:57 (eleven months ago) link

It ain’t that murky.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 3 November 2018 01:48 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

https://pitchfork.com/news/marvin-gayes-lost-1972-album-youre-the-man-set-for-release/

Motown has announced the release of Marvin Gaye’s scrapped follow-up to 1971 classic What’s Going On. You’re the Man features all of Gaye’s solo and non-soundtrack recordings from 1972. It’s out March 29, four days before what would have been Gaye’s 80th birthday on April 2. Listen to album track “My Last Chance,” mixed by Salaam Remi, below.

Of the LP’s 17 songs, only the title track was released at the time. Most of the songs have never been released on vinyl until now. David Ritz wrote liner notes for the physical issue.

i'm assuming most of the tracks have been released in other forms, but i'm not sure i've ever heard them. is it good?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:05 (eight months ago) link

this is kind of an obvious and lame thing to say, but i LOVE his music, especially of that period. if there are even a few tracks that approach the brilliance of What's Going On i will be a happy camper.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:06 (eight months ago) link

looks like a lot of it is on the deluxe Let's Get It On reissue

brimstead, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:58 (eight months ago) link

"where are we going" is fabulous

brimstead, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:59 (eight months ago) link

arranged/mixed by the mizell brothers!

brimstead, Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:00 (eight months ago) link

looks like a lot of it is on the deluxe Let's Get It On reissue

I was flabbergasted when I heard the outtakes on that, there was so much!

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:03 (eight months ago) link

oh shit, great! i can check that out when i get home, then. i didn't even realize there was a lost marvin gaye album from this period, so i'm pretty pumped

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:05 (eight months ago) link

Can't wait to hear it. I like the faithful cover art, too, and agree this era was his peak.

Though these "[artist] would have been [this] old" thought experiments are odd. Like, 80 isn't impossible but it's pushing it for someone who indulged the way Marvin did. I get celebrating the anniversary of his birth. But framing it as "he would have been 80" makes me picture something like BB King's last tour, which was a sad spectacle.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:09 (eight months ago) link

this is kind of an obvious and lame thing to say, but i LOVE his music, especially of that period. if there are even a few tracks that approach the brilliance of What's Going On i will be a happy camper.


Christgau has that record nailed IMO:

What's Going On [Tamla, 1971]
This may be a groundbreaking personal statement, but like any Berry Gordy quickie it's baited skimpily: only three great tunes. "What's Going On," "Inner City Blues," and "Mercy, Mercy Me (the Ecology)" are so original they reveal ordinary Motown-political as the benign market manipulation it is. And Gaye keeps getting more subtle vocally and rhythmically. But the rest is pretty murky even when the lyrical ideas are good--I like the words on "What's Happenin' Brother" and "Flyin' High (in the Friendly Sky)" quite a bit--and the religious songs that bear Gaye's real message are suitably shapeless. Worst of all, because they're used a lot, are David Van De Pitte's strings, the lowest kind of movie-background dreck. B+

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 05:31 (eight months ago) link

B+ for fucking what's going on, ok

baited skimpily? that's a fun phrase, but is that true at all with this album? the bait consists of three all-time legendary songs that would be the best songs of just about any other singer's career.

as for the rest, the string arrangements don't break new ground but they provide the stylistic glue (along with the congas, and of course gaye's voice) that makes the album flow so smoothly. what's going on is possibly the fastest 35 minutes in history. the forgotten songs are hardly filler, it's just that they're designed to provide the scaffolding to the rest of the album. "save the children" is a beautiful song on its own, for example, but its purpose in the context of the album is to establish a melody that later reaches it's fruition in "mercy mercy me" several minutes later.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 06:52 (eight months ago) link

six months pass...

is this the right thread for me to talk about how fucking awesome the trouble man soundtrack is

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:26 (one month ago) link

T Plays It Cool is the absolute bomb

brimstead, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:32 (one month ago) link

who plays drums on that song they are amazing

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:36 (one month ago) link

My go-to from Marvin for many years- that tune in particular is a killer. Sax solo is lights out as well

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:40 (one month ago) link

I suspected as much— the drums sound so great on T because the drums on this album are played by..... Marvin himself!

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:42 (one month ago) link

i thought that might be the case

god he really was the goat

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 23:48 (one month ago) link

you're the man is really wonderful, i'm surprised at how well it works. the songs are brilliant

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 7 September 2019 17:38 (one month ago) link


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