And the most intriguing bit of music trivia I ever learned was ...

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I once heard that the top selling American album in England is Michael Jackson's "Bad," while the top selling British album in America is "The Wall."

I always found that fascinating, because even if told the top-selling culprits were MJ and the Floyd, I imagine most would guess "Thriller" and "Dark Side of the Moon."

Anyway, that's it!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I thought it was a joke when told recently that Arnold Schoenberg, the seminal atonal/"12-tone" composer really did suffer from triskaidekaphobia, the fear of the number thirteen! He was born on the thirteenth of the month, and (according to this site) he...

feared he would die during a year that was a multiple of 13. He so dreaded his sixty-fifth birthday that a friend asked composer and astrologist Dane Rudhyar to prepare Schoenberg's horoscope. Rudhyar did this and told Schoenberg that although the year was dangerous, it was not necessarily fatal. Schoenberg survived it. But in 1951, on his seventy-sixth birthday, the Viennese musician and astrologist Oscar Adler wrote Schoenberg a note warning him that the year was a critical one: 7 plus 6 equals 13. This stunned and depressed the composer, for up to that point he had only been wary of multiples of 13 and never considered adding the digits of his age. He became obsessed with this idea and many friends report that he frequently said: "If I can only pull through this year I shall be safe." ... On Friday, July 13, of his seventy-sixth year, Arnold Schoenberg stayed in bed - sick, anxious and depressed. Shortly before midnight his wife leaned over and whispered, "You see, the day is almost over. All that worry was for nothing." He looked at her and died.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 7 May 2005 13:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

woah!

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 7 May 2005 13:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Shirley Temple's daughter played bass in the Melvins for years n years.

Christopher R. Weingarten (whineyg), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The Wall is probably counted as two LPs for every sale since it's a double -- that's the case with a lot of all-time sellers (to me that ain't right.)

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

more Schoenberg: he named his opera "Moses und Aron" because naming it "Moses und Aaron" would require it having 13 letters in the title

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 7 May 2005 17:37 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Moses n' Aaron works better, I think.

Jay Watts III (jaywatts), Saturday, 7 May 2005 18:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Thomas Edison intended the original phonograph to be an office dictation machine.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The original compact discs were designed to be 74 minutes long so that all of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony could fit (it was the Sony engineer's favorite piece of music).

m coleman (lovebug starski), Saturday, 7 May 2005 19:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Prodigy
"I love the Foo Fighters. The track that inspired Firestarter was a Foo Fighters track 'Weenie Beenie'. I'd love to do a track with him and I hear he's into working with me as well." - Liam Howlett, 1997

OMGWTF??

Aja (aja), Saturday, 7 May 2005 20:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The structure of I Walk The Line by Johnny Cash being inspired by hearing some music he'd recorded on tape played backwards...

LRJP! (LRJP!), Sunday, 8 May 2005 09:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Beethoven's handwriting was so bad, that nobody's really sure that Für Elise was really meant for an Elise...It might as well have said: For Therese or sth...

Eva van Rein (Gaia1981), Sunday, 8 May 2005 10:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The lass lick from Cop Shoot Cop's "Eggs for Rib" is based on the melody of "The Girl from Ipanema".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 May 2005 11:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Columbia Records signed The Byrds based on Miles Davis's recommendation.

The climactic feedback in Motõrhead's "We Are The Road Crew" wasn't intentional - it was the result of Fast Eddie Clark passing out and falling too close to the amplifiers while recording!

And finally, the mere EXISTENCE of Jane Scott, formerly the world's oldest rock journalist/fan. Wish I'd heard of her before she retired...

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 8 May 2005 11:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The original compact discs were designed to be 74 minutes long so that all of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony could fit (it was the Sony engineer's favorite piece of music).

Not quite so...

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Genres and techniques which were, at least according to testimonials, born by accident:

*Dub
*Acid House
*Scratching

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 8 May 2005 12:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

lots of genres and techniques were born by accident/unintended use: the hoover, guitar distortion, the "goth" vocal style (Andrew Eldridge can't sing in tune, forces himself an octave lower, everybody copies it), etc etc

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The lass lick

That's some sensitive microphone work.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 8 May 2005 16:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The first DJ in the world to use two turntables was....

Jimmy Saville!

You could also make a pretty reasoned argument for him being the first ever Hip hop Dj...think about it. Gold tracksuit, loads of bling, catchphrases, giant cigar...

Kris England, Sunday, 8 May 2005 18:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

According to the People's Almanac, the (London) Melody Maker coined the nickname "Satchmo" for Louis Armstrong.

everything, Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

And finally, the mere EXISTENCE of Jane Scott, formerly the world's oldest rock journalist/fan. Wish I'd heard of her before she retired...

(she is a good friend of my grandpa, who also wrote for the cleveland plain dealer for many years......she's pretty cool)

PB, Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The climactic feedback in Motõrhead's "We Are The Road Crew" wasn't intentional - it was the result of Fast Eddie Clark passing out and falling too close to the amplifiers while recording!

This is awesome if true.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

because he passed out?

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Manson in Monkees audition - is this common knowledge?

baboon2004 (baboon2004), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

because he passed out?

It's just a great Spinal Tap-ish moment.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Manson in Monkees audition - is this common knowledge?

Yes. It's also an urban myth, though. Auditions for the Monkees were held in 1965, Manson was in prison between 1961 and 1967.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 8 May 2005 21:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

.. plus too old (Bobby "Boris" Pickett was knocked back for that reason), also he hated pop music..

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The climactic feedback in Motõrhead's "We Are The Road Crew" wasn't intentional - it was the result of Fast Eddie Clark passing out and falling too close to the amplifiers while recording!

motorhead rule so much

latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Monday, 9 May 2005 07:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

because he passed out?

-- RJG (RJ...), May 8th, 2005.

because its just fucking rock and roll!

latebloomer: the rebel sound of grits and bacon (latebloomer), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Homophobia" by Chumbawamba featuring the Sisters Of Perpetual Indulgence (a bunch of radical gay activists dressed up as nuns) got to Number One in Israel, due to being heavily played on the radio following a "scandal" involving a gay cabinet minister. Meanwhile, BBC Radio One couldn't play it because it contained the word "piss".

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Siegbran OTM. I dunno about the Sisters of Mercy, but I love that story about the one summer in Jamaica when it was so hot that all the musicians slowed down, thereby inventing rock steady.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also, does anyone else suspect that a Motorhead song-by-song book would be one of the all-time great rock tomes?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I found this, from Will Shade's "Thieving Magpie" piece in Perfect Sound Forever, fascinating — that Jimmy Page played on 60% of EVERYTHING recorded in England from 1963-1966.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 9 May 2005 08:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

David Bowie owns the patent for popular game 'Connect 4'.

moley, Monday, 9 May 2005 09:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Also, does anyone else suspect that a Motorhead song-by-song book would be one of the all-time great rock tomes?

Hugely!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 May 2005 12:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I do recall the liner notes of 'No Remorse' being a hoot, but I only own the original albums now . . . Don't loan your records out, kids.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Manson in Monkees audition - is this common knowledge?
Yes. It's also an urban myth, though. Auditions for the Monkees were held in 1965, Manson was in prison between 1961 and 1967. "

I'll try again. The KLF once released a single (K Sera Sera) only in Israel.

baboon2004 (baboon2004), Monday, 9 May 2005 15:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The band backing up Elvis Costello on My Aim Is True was an early version of The News, as in Huey Lewis and...

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

1. The same songwriter, Chip Taylor, wrote "Wild Thing" (the Troggs, Hendrix, et. mil.), "Angel of the Morning" (country-pop standard, Shaggy), and "Try (Just A Little Bit Harder)" (Janis Joplin).

2. His real name is John Voight. Jon Voight the actor (and father of Angelina Jolie) is his older brother.

Vornado, Monday, 9 May 2005 16:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jason atkins represents "universal love exists"

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The so-called Nazi "Enigma" code, cracked by underground Polish cryptologists in 1941, was smuggled from Gdansk to Uzes, France, in the three-year old rectum of future Can bassist Holger Czukay. Can's "Outside My Door," from their first album Monster Movie (1969), is a harrowing account of said operation from the toddler's Czukay's perspective.


Oh wait...no it wasn't. Sorry.

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Monday, 9 May 2005 16:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That "Yesterday" was originally titled "Scrambled Eggs."

Actually I'm kidding. I HATE when they talk about this song on TV shows and they always show a clip of some dong going, "Did you know . . ." and then they recite the terrible first line. Ugh.

Roadkill Bingo (Roadkill Bingo), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Neil Young (and Bruce Palmer, original Buffalo Springfield bassist) played guitar in Rick James' mid-60s Toronto band, The Mynah Birds.

Vornado, Monday, 9 May 2005 17:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Summer of Convergence:

Richard Rodgers and Oscar Hammerstein II went to summer camp together when they were kids. They did not remember meeting there, but Rodgers' counselor introduced him to Lorenz Hart, who was the counselor's roommate at Columbia. And Hammerstein later hired the son of another camp friend, Herb Sondheim, as his secretary -- Stephen Sondheim.

Vornado, Monday, 9 May 2005 17:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

- Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden was a roadie for the Young Marble Giants.
- During the recording of Blue Bell Knoll by the Cocteau Twins, Liz Fraser survived solely on a diet of blueberries and saltines.
- Bette Midler is desperately afraid of touching door knobs.
- Patti Smythe of Scandal was briefly considered as a replacement for David Lee Roth in Van Halen, prior to Sammy Hagar.
- Gary Numan has the water in his swimming pool dyed black.
- Johnny Ramone was an avid collector of Bullwinkle memorabilia.


Not all of these are necessarily true, mind you.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 9 May 2005 17:33 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

When Italian ultra-nationalist poet Gabriele D'Annunzio captured the city of Fiume and declared it a free state in 1920, he cited music as one of the ten founding "corporations." From http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Fiume:

In the Italian province of Carnaro, music is a social and religious institution. Once in a thousand or two thousand years music springs from the soul of a people and flows on for ever.
A noble race is not one that creates a God in its own image but one that creates also the song wherewith to do Him homage.
Every rebirth of a noble race is a lyric force, every sentiment that is common to the whole race, a potential lyric; music, the language of ritual, has power, above all else, to exalt the achievement and the life of man.
Does it not seem that great music has power to bring spiritual peace to the strained and anxious multitude?
The reign of the human spirit is not yet.
‘When matter acting on matter shall be able to replace man’s physical strength, then will the spirit of man begin to see the dawn of libertv’: so said a man of Dalmatia of our own Adriatic, the blind seer of Sebenico.
As cock-crow heralds the dawn, so music is the herald of the soul’s awakening.
Meanwhile, in the instruments of labour, of profit, and of sport, in the noisy machines which, even they, fall into a poetical rhythm, music can find her motives and her harmonies.
In the pauses of music is heard the silence of the tenth corporation.

In every commune of the province there will be a choral society and an orchestra subsidized by the State.
In the city of Fiume, the College of Aediles will be commissioned to erect a great concert hall, accommodating an audience of at least ten thousand with tiers of seats and ample space for choir and orchestra.
The great orchestral and choral~ celebrations will be entirely free — in the language of the Church — a gift of God.

mayhaps, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 18:11 (eleven years ago) Permalink

ten years pass...

Just started Trouble Boys, the Replacements bio. Paul Westerberg's first band, back in Catholic school, included John Zika and Dave Zilka--surely the only band ever where an unrelated half of the band had a Z-surname.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:29 (six months ago) Permalink


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