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Ned's evocation of a higher power does exactly SQUAT in telling me whether I want Genesis P-Orridge in my life. If any of you fine people could provide reasons to let them in (or throw a restraining order on 'em), get thee here.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I have heard the words "abrasive" & "unlistenable" used to describe them.

"Evocation"? Oh, shut me up already.

David Raposa, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Abrasive sounds about right, but certainly not unlistenable. You should let them in if you have any interest in "industrial" music because they're the ones who coined the term, more or less, when they named their record label. Lots of electronic effects and tape whackeroo. DoA is a great album to start with, and contains my fave, "Hamburger Lady". Gen P is okay, if he's got the rest of this lot with him.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Ned's evocation of a higher power does exactly SQUAT in telling me whether I want Genesis P-Orridge in my life.

YOU DARE MOCK ME?

Hm...you could always look for the suitcase with twenty-three live shows on tape in it.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

my mum used to live with Gen P you know.

they shared a squat in Hull in the 70s with his girlfriend.

apparently they were a bit strange.

Wyndham Earl, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not exactly the fan I once was, but I don't think all of TG is unlistenable. For many years I thought "Heathen Earth" was one of their better records, though last time I listened to it, it didn't sound as good to me as it has in the past. Still, I would recommend it as a good starting point. There are some worthwhile things on "20 Jazz Funk Hits" (greats?) including "Convincing People" and "The Six Six Sixties." I still kind of like "Once Upon A Time," I think. I don't listen to any of this often enough to be sure, but it has some crude but quite interesting use of taped sound in the background. Most of that album, or at least one side, seems to consist of the song "Discipline." The Target Video "Live at Kazar" shows what this was like live, and it's good for a laugh. There are some tracks on the four volume live box set I have (on Mute, I think--from around 1993) that I like, but the names don't jump to mind. A good version of "Convincing People" and "What A Day."

I also like "Grief" which seems to mostly be interviews with a young P-Orridge mixed together with various noises and funny sounding radio personalities, but I think this is probably not going to be of much interest to the casual TG listener.

DeRayMi, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

If you're looking for horrible unlistenable gutteral noise, then definitely get "Mission of Dead Souls".. it was a crude taping of their last performance ever, in San Francisco in 1981. (I haven't heard it, but apparently the penultimate in Los Angeles the night before was much much better, and there's a boot CD of that scuttling around somewhere. It's the same show that a then young and enterprising Robert Hilburn told an entire city to check out via the Los Angeles Times.)

If you're looking for something that akin to synthpop, but just "off" enough, then "20 Jazz Funk Greats" is the one to get.

Something in between? "The Second Annual Report" or the others around it.

I have "TG1", but I don't listen to it often enough to make a recommendation.

Though they did coin the term "industrial", please PLEASE don't think of Throbbing Gristle as anything that approximates, say, Front 242 or Nitzer Ebb or Front Line Assembly or that lot. Not that I mind the latter groups (or most of them anyway), but the early 80s Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft records are a more direct influence on 80s and 90s "industrial" dance music... or the Wax Trax! era, or what have you.

Brian MacDonald, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, sorry, I was thinking industrial in the classic sense, like Cabaret Voltaire's early albums. Definitely not the 90s stuff (though there's still a bit of an influence, it's very slight). In either case, though, they're still worth a listen, if only for the historical perspective.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"Live at Thee Circus" by Psychic TV is pretty good. Hard to justify when someone I loaned it to said how adolescent it was, but there are some pretty odd things going on musically. P-Orridge's vocals on that are really different from anything else I've heard him done. I know you weren't asking about Psychic TV, but "evocation" reminded me. ("This is the invocation. . .")

I'm having trouble sleeping. ("Our aim is wakefulness.")

DeRayMi, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

They invented industrial music - restraining order.

charles, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

track down all the "definitive" early records of TGs "career" at someone else's place -- try and think of the carefully delinineated TG era as a similar PR excercise to Mclaren/Pistols albeit more extreme shock tactics and much less populist ra-ra-ra, but still very much a reaction to the '70s rock sellout art-slump

the records :

2nd Annual Report -- arguably their most revolting record, except that TG communicate that feeling quite effectively and quite deliberately -- you may not need to hear that record more than once and arguably might not wish to be caught owning it, but it certainly explains the initial public fuss, while cutting to the chase -- really three very well realised music sequences

3rd Annual/DoA -- more bitsy and a truer "report" of "experiments" in "rock music", like the situationalist "Death Threats" (left by members of the public on TGs answer phone), or the borish found art "IBM" (sound of TG jamming with a computer tape), "Hamburger Lady" (comment/song as expoitation tabloid trash) -- also includes a piece by each member on their own, and since they all went on to do diverse/perverse stuff, some insight -- lots of ideas

20 Jazz Funk Greats -- one of the first deliberate and self-conscious cringe/camp records -- quite cool subverted song forms, as has been noted in thread -- again lots of ideas

Heathen Earth -- attempted "honest" live in studio record -- goes on a bit, and with none of the immaculate cut'n'paste of previous records in the name of said honesty, not their best gig -- i don't think the songs really cut it

Mission of Dead Souls -- like if you'd recorded Rotten's last Pistols gig, this'd be it -- a real bad gig, badly recorded -- the ultimate "bad live album" -- like, if you buy it you're a completist, dummy

and then the campy "Greatest Hits" collecting the wacky singles like Zyclon B Zombie, Subhuman, Adrenalin, Discipline etc. (how handy) -- the mute re-issues of the 5 "classic" TG records listed above appended most of these singles anyway, if you really need to ..

and then all the posthumous smelly corpse stuff -- out-takes, live successes, ie more of the same, but not concept albums, not part of the "classic 5", with the exception of "TG1", one of the very first "alternative" CDs released to the new and very slowly emerging CD market, and so collectible -- listening to it will drive you mad bored if you do not have ADHD -- flogging the horse via new format cash-in

all designed to present a truly alternative view of record buying and collecting fashions, fetishes, follies ...

all in all a brief (4 years I think) but well constructed performance art commentary on the record industry (studio name "Death Factory") naff seediness and useful/negative real rock music as commentary on Thatcher, sex crimes, some peoples lives are _really_ shitty etc.. -- like one of the more intelligent things to ride on the punk wave

industrial music -- TG coined the phrase in '76-'77, written on the notes to 2nd Annual Report -- mocking the big "industry" surrounding what's meant to be "art"

these days the "industrial" niche market represented at it's most cynical by Nine Inch Nails types is just frustrated-adolescent music and if it does say anything about "music", well it's already been said

conclusion: listen to TG records and CDs and the offshoots like Chris&Cosey, PTV, Coil at some rabid collector's house -- why have an art installation on permanent repeat in yr living room, especially if the "art" is so rooted in its times and the "truths" aren't so pretty ?

George Gosset, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

George, good advice and analysis. I think there are bits and pieces in their music that are still worthwhile, but every year the size of the bits and pieces seems to shrink a little. Anyway, Genesis P-Orridge is too busy being a "cultural engineer" to do something unimportant like make good music.

DeRayMi, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

David, if you're ever in Philadelphia, your welcome to come back to my flat and listen to my TG collection and peruse my copies of RE/Search. I'll provide the German wiiiiiiiiiine. Why don't you go in there, David? [Diabolical laughter.]

DeRayMi, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

"you may not need to hear that record more than once and arguably might not wish to be caught owning it"

I own it on vinyl. I've heard it once.

David Gunnip, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Keen gear! I'll bring my Twister mat!

David Raposa, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I didn't get Second Annual Report (Is that the one with "Convincing People?") or Mission of Dead Souls at all. They sure as hell didn't sound noisy, abrasive, or much of anything else when I heard them. I should probably give them another chance sometime though. The early Cab Volt that I've heard mostly just sounds like dance music to me.

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

How early is the "early" Cab V you've heard, Sundar? I wouldn't really consider Mix-Up dance music. Crackdown, sure, maybe even 2x45, but the early stuff was fairly experimental tape manipulation and electronic effects grafted to more dub rhythms.

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

destroy: all sucky attepts at dance music by p-tv

chaki, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Throbbing Gristle did coin the term and are worthy, if a little wierd. I bought that album 15 years ago and if I hadn't lost it somehow in a drunken stupor, I would still own the vinyl. Hamburger lady is great. I used to d.j. a show when I first bought it that played mainly industrial and hardcore punk and that along with Michael Gyra (swans) and Jim Thurwel is one that I would still listen to and enjoy in the right mood.

Hank, Thursday, 24 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

one year passes...
TG had a peculiar edge about them that I have always found endearing. I have the Five Albums box-set and several live things, all of which are worthy listens. Thee Psychick Sacrifice includes a stellar live rendition of the aforementioned "Hamburger Lady." The soundtrack for In the Shadow of the Sun veers off into more ambient territory. I'd have to go with DOA & 20 Jazz Funk Greats as the best overall discs to try....

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

something came over me! thats the one for me!

gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 01:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

SOMEONE had to be TG but thats no reason for you to listen to it. Its awful... something to be seen not heard. Early Psychic TV is alright. Its more interesting to read about them.

SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 04:16 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

The TG live boxset (i.e. the 4CD one not the 24 Hour one - I'm not that rich unfortunately) is probably the worst place for a TG beginner to start but it contains some of my favourite TG moments:

Introduction/ Very Friendly (I.C.A., London, 18th October 1976)
Forced Entry (Nuffield Theatre, Southampton, 7th May 1977)
Assume Power Focus (Rat Club, London, 17th December 1977)
IBM/ It's Always The Way/ Hamburger Lady (Goldsmiths College, London, 18th May 1978)
Mother Spunk (Industrial Training College, Wakefield, 1st July 1978)
New After Cease To Exist Soundtrack (London Film Makers Co-Op, 6th July 1978)
Introduction/ Whistling Song (The Crypt Club, London, 11th November 1978)
Weapon Training/ See You Are/ Convincing People (The Factory, Manchester, 18th May 1979)
Russ (Goldsmiths College, London, 13th March 1980)
Trained Condition Of Obedience (SO36 Club, Berlin, 7th November 1980)
Auschwitz (Rafters, Manchester, 4th December 1980)

Note how they drop off towards the end of the group's existence. Psychic TV were an embarassment. Coil and Chris/Cosey are merely dull.

"20 Jazz Funk Greats" is a fun album, very clever and eclectic - recommended for beginners while lacking the ferocity of primetime TG.


Dadaismus, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 11:59 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

must get some live stuff really.

'heathen earth' is really good. kraftwerk's evil cousin.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 12:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the best thing about throbbing gristle is that amongst all the brutal bloody-tampax rubble were some really pretty pop songs. don't tell me that united isn't a beautiful love song

snake assassin, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 12:43 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

"united" and "adrenaline" are the only things they ever did where music matched the rhetoric

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 12:54 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

There was no rhetoric - that was Psychic TV

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

ha ha yeah because tg was a rhetoric-free zone

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 13:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

How's that book on them? The jacket looks nice.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:04 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

yeah I got to get that.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:07 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Genesis P-Orridge is a silly sort of man - something of a "holy fool"

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

the book is very good. i wouldnt buy it, tho. (i found it at the library.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:09 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

christ I wish my library was that good.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

it's the evergreen school library, so of course they're larded with "weirdo" books. (i found the sun ra biog there too.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 14:14 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Sounds like my kinda library. The TG book is good even if it does seek to canonize Gen a little bit. Also it takes at face value a lot of his bullshit and self-aggrandizement. That Sun Ra book is good too.

Dadaismus, Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:11 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Also it takes at face value a lot of his bullshit and self-aggrandizement.

This would seem to be the main thing a book about T.G. should struggle to avoid. Oh well.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 15:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i got a little biscuit tin, to keep yer panties in.

c'mon jess...persuasion and hamburger lady get there too!

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 9 April 2003 09:12 (fifteen years ago) Permalink


TG- what beauty-full wonders they were- 'threats to society'- a partner in cryme was monte cazaza- brilliant man- the four cd live set
and 2 annual report are must owns- yoko ono's first four cd's are also
as important in relationship to thee destiny ov musick future- heathen earth is a 'gud' intro for the folks- those with no imagination I smugly am saying- I also love lou reeds 'metal machine music'- so there were for runnerz that led to TG- read up on the forerunner to TG- coum transmissions- PTV are varied- from acid-house to acid-rock- their greatest hits cd will show their massive eclectism- and singles vol 1 & 2- will realy show Gen in his rabid conquest- for 'what-ever-is'. TG were pure. genuine. and genius (he he)- Coil and current 93 is magick musick- and good to fuck to.
now be 'very freindly' Free mary bell!

john-david lucas, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:31 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Mary Bell was "freed" years ago, dipshit.

Dadaismus, Wednesday, 9 April 2003 14:32 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

there's one way though, that you'll never convince people
and that's when you try to be someone who's not telling
and who's trying to compel, who is trying to tell you of what to be convinced of

I can't stop listening to 20 Jazz Funk Greats. I haven't heard anything else by Throbbing Gristle. DoA is next on the list, but what else should I check out by other groups? Did anyone else ever come close to sounding this good?

Z S, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 17:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

start with SPK's leichenschrei. there's lots of good industrial from that time period. early cab voltaire, test dept, einsturzende. there's gotta be a thread, no?

also, you need TG's very friendly.

Edward III, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

all ILMers are courteously invited to attend:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/2416070319_f47d621bf8.jpg

this will be a Very Friendly DJ set and book reading.

Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 17:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Looks like a good gig, I wish I could attend.

Display Name, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 19:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

I bought the DVD box :)

DG, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 20:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok, so everyone knows not to expect Front Line Assembly when they pick up TG. Still, inevitably in a discussion about TG, one gets the impression that they were just some proto-power electronics ugly pig-fucking noisefest. Even people who listen to them, or at least are familiar with the music, seem to carry this impression. I was glad to see the new(est) record destroy that legend- because even in the older material, there's as much Kraftwerk and Martin Denny influence as there is pipe-welding guitar and klangklang tape loops. My favorite record is probably DOA: The Third and Final Report. The solo tracks grew on me where they didn't catch me right away (especially "Weeping" - Gen's pathetic suicidal solo), there's the infamous weirdness of "Hamburger Lady," the solid pop of "United," the ceaselessly hilarious "Death Threats," along with the painful "Walls of Sound" and "Blood on The Floor." I mean, you just can't go wrong when you shutup and listen.

Crunk With Christ, Thursday, 17 April 2008 21:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

buddha gristle machine

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/gristleism215__.jpg

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 14 October 2009 10:43 (nine years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

2010 dates!!

23rd OCTOBER LONDON VILLAGE UNDERGROUND, UK

30th OCTOBER PRAGUE ARCHA THEATRE, Czech Republic

2nd NOVEMBER BOLOGNA THEATRE ARENA DEL SOLE, Italy

6th NOVEMBER PORTO CASA MUSICA, Portugal

TG WILL PERFORM AN ALL NEW SET USING NEW EXPERIMENTAL ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT,
SPICED WITH A COUPLE OF OLD FAVOURITE TRACKS.

THESE SHOWS ARE THE ONLY LIVE PERFORMANCES TG ANTICIPATE PLAYING THIS YEAR.

vessels in distress (r1o natsume), Monday, 6 September 2010 17:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

did anyone go to the london show?

Crackle Box, Monday, 25 October 2010 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Looks like it may have been their last, they have split up again

margana (anagram), Friday, 29 October 2010 09:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

from twitter :

@chris_carter_ Chris Carter
⚡ ⚡ ⚡ we are about to make a SIGNIFICANT ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THROBBING GRISTLE ⚡ ⚡ ⚡

mark e, Friday, 29 October 2010 10:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

NOOOO they're supposed to be playing gy!be ATP in December :(

a fucking abortion (onimo), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Throbbing Gristle official statement:

In the evening 27th October T.G. members and their associated managements received two emails from Genesis P-Orridge stating s/he was no longer willing to perform in Throbbing Gristle.

Cosey, Peter & Chris are therefore forced to understand that currently Throbbing Gristle has now ceased activities again as a live entity.

Therefore, and with deepest apologies, T.G. must cancel their scheduled performance at Archa Theatre, in Prague, Czech Republic on 30th October, it being too short notice to offer an alternative set.

In order not to further disappoint fans of the old quartet, and with the kind support of the associated event producers, Cosey, Peter & Chris will perform live under the name "X-TG" at the currently sold out show at Arena Del Sole, Bologna, Italy on 2nd November, & at Casa Musica, Porto, Portugal on 5th November.

We hope fans will appreciate and enjoy this new project and the trio is looking forward to performing exciting new and radical electronic musics together.

Full refunds are available at the point of purchase if required.

X-TG hope to be able to come to play in Prague very soon .

END

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

this has been online at the prague venue website for 2 hours now, so the word is already out...

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

So they're playing sans-gen at the next couple of shows, but i'm pissed off as i already have my hotel booked and travel arrangements for prague tomorrow....

doubt the atp thing will happen tho..

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Friday, 29 October 2010 10:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

Curiouser and curiouser - here's a statement from Gen:

GENESIS BREYER P-ORRIDGE – HAS NOT QUIT TG !

Dear Friends,

We have seen and heard various inaccurate, erroneous, even sometimes libelous speculations about why we felt compelled to drop out of the current Throbbing Gristle tour. As a result we intend to address these matters in full as soon as possible. We hope that what we state now, and later, will be clear, will not fan the flames of destructive gossip, will not seem negative and will reduce an somewhat dramatic situation into a simpler story. We want to make it clear right now that we did not, and have no wish to quit TG. Obviously there is more involved than just that simple statement. Personally, at this point of my life, my position is that the inner workings and dynamics of any band, but especially of TG, are as intimate, unique and most of all complex as they are within any family. Unfortunately, even at the level TG occupy in popular culture, band business becomes potentially everyone’s business. We all know the internet has amplified the speed of distribution of “information” almost as fast as it has accelerated the decline of accuracy worldwide. We have no interest in pointing fingers (or is it claws?) at various people or sites and accusing them of letting the cat out of the bag. Bickering is never attractive, not one on one nor within the realms of an ever expanding media fueled by smart phone technologies and laptops. As soon as we have composed a written version of what series of events we believe led to my feeling unable to remain part of THIS short tour by the re-grouped TG that feels acceptable we will post it here.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

smoke screen

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Thursday, 11 November 2010 18:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

Aww RIP Sleazy.

4 out of 5 Fenriz agree. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 25 November 2010 10:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did "X-TG" make it to Italy? That story seems to suggest not.

Mark G, Thursday, 25 November 2010 10:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

RIP

if he died in the midst of beefing w/ Gen then that is sad upon sad

cthulhu thuggin (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 25 November 2010 10:29 (seven years ago) Permalink

started a new thread for this... He deserves it...

Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Thursday, 25 November 2010 10:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

RIP dude

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Thursday, 25 November 2010 23:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...

whoa they're doing double-CD versions of the first four albums with extras on the 2nd discs... would love to get more detailed tracklisting if anybody knows.

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 22:09 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yesssssssss. I was just thinking they needed badly to do something like this. As long as the second disc isn't just modern live stuff.

Jheri Curlnelius (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 13 October 2011 03:53 (seven years ago) Permalink

Each release in this 'Time Capsule' series, comes with an additional disc of selected TG live performances culled from our TG24 archive recordings. They are selected to represent TG live performances specific to the original release year of each album.

I'd be surprised if there was any original-era live stuff left in the archives that hasn't already seen an official release, but let's see.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 13 October 2011 07:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

it'll be from the 24 Hours of collection i assume from that press release. it's the internet age, it wouldn't kill somebody to make that whole set commercially available again surely?

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 13 October 2011 08:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

that's pretty cool. i've listened to some of that 24 hours set and there is some incredible stuff.

tylerw, Thursday, 13 October 2011 16:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

YES!

The new reissues sound ~sublime~

Just listening to DOA 3rd & Final now, it sounds fucking great. I'm not sure whether this unmasks the original as a horribly bad pressing, or that it actually improved this much, but this reissue sounds so much wider in scope, so much deeper. There's bass-y sounds on here I never even noticed before on the originals!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I am gonna buy the hell out of all these reissues.

sleeve, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Really? Shit. I passed on DOA because I got a nice second hand vinyl copy recently. Hoping to get my Heathen Earth and 20 Jazz Funk Greats soon though. Sooooo looking forward to getting the latter on vinyl now you write this though.

kraudive, Saturday, 5 November 2011 23:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Well I don't know what to tell you (and congrats on your vinyl copy regardless!), but this just sounds... amazing. There's a depth I haven't heard on the original vinyl pressings, it sounds so much more spacious. Apologies if that sounds vague, don't know how else to describe it, but it sounds so much 'richer'. At long last.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 6 November 2011 00:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey are you talkin' vinyl reissue or the CD?

bear has little fear of hades (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 6 November 2011 03:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I recall that the vinyl reissues had appeared (and went, apparently) some months ago.

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 6 November 2011 04:38 (six years ago) Permalink

2nd Annual Report CD and vinyl were listed in the Forced Exposure update I got this morning...

sleeve, Sunday, 6 November 2011 05:58 (six years ago) Permalink

The vinyl reissues came out last week. I know because I bought the lot.

Conan The Asshander (Doran), Sunday, 6 November 2011 10:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I meant the cd's btw

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

oh. I thought you were speaking vinyl.

kraudive, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Still waiting for the vinyls to arrive, but can't imagine them being any less great than the cd's tbh

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:53 (six years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

Okay, so yet another reissue series happening:

Throbbing Gristle and Mute announce a series of reissues, set to start on the 40th anniversary of their debut album release, The Second Annual Report.

On November 3, 2017 The Second Annual Report, presented as a limited edition white vinyl release in the original packaging and also on double CD, and 20 Jazz Funk Greats, on green vinyl and double CD, will be released. Accompanying these releases will be The Taste Of TG: A Beginner’s Guide to Throbbing Gristle with an updated tracklisting that will include “Almost A Kiss” (from 2007’s Part Two: Endless Not). This will be the first time The Taste Of TG is available on vinyl and will be presented on double red vinyl alongside a CD and digital release.

November’s anniversary releases will be followed by further catalog releases in January and April 2018.

January 26, 2018
D.o.A. The Third And Final Report
Heathen Earth
Part Two: Endless Not

April 27, 2018
Mission Of Dead Souls
Greatest Hits
Journey Through A Body
In The Shadow Of The Sun

2017 saw Throbbing Gristle’s catalog available on streaming services for the first time. This was the initial stage of Mute releasing the band’s entire classic catalog physically and digitally. Mute and Throbbing Gristle will continue the reissues series, creating previously unreleased box sets and making available long out-of-print and important pieces of work.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Not seeing anything whether this is just a straight replication of the previous 2-CD reissues a few years back. Which I'm holding onto, obviously.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:37 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah I really don't get this, those 2CDs from 2011 are definitive IMO

sleeve, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:49 (one year ago) Permalink

that being said I'm curious as to what extra tracks might be in that second batch

sleeve, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:51 (one year ago) Permalink

It looks like the 2011 are OOP? They're pretty expensive on Discogs/Amazon etc

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:53 (one year ago) Permalink

oh well if this is just a straight repress that makes more sense

sleeve, Thursday, 31 August 2017 16:54 (one year ago) Permalink

four months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AOc0VL7L7I

All you American politicians who lie down in front of wrecked cars. . . .

Shit, which song is that?

_Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 07:57 (nine months ago) Permalink


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