There have been these threads:
Sympathy for the Devil (Neptunes) vs. Sympathy for the Devil (Laibach)laibach anthems: bravura or crap?LAIBACH - New album 'WAT' - Sept. 8
..and while there were things said on them, they never went as deep as I wished they did.
So, LAIBACH!
"YA! YA! YA! YA! GEEF ME A LITE BEER!"
I have to thank a local friend for scoring me the self-titled Laibach DVD which is a collection of their videos, from mid 80s to late 90s, I believe. I kinda thought the charm of their videos went away once they discovered digital animation, personally... but the four troopers are still at, marching in as tight a phalanx as they started, once the current lineup solidified.
I went ahead and got "Laibach 2" DVD, which is a full live show circa 1995 or so, and they do new and old material. I've only seen clips of it, and will view it without interruption one day. But yeah, they pretty much rule either the ultimate poker faces, or are just stone-cold cold. Or both.
(Also, I scored the "Die Liebe" 12" the other day, and it rules like early Swans.)
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
the self titled debut (also known as skuc), rekapitulacija, nova akropola, occupied europe (more or less a live nova akropola) and krst pod triglavom-baptism are all classic with nova akropola perhaps being the best as the production is so good. 'die liebe' and 'panorama' still sleigh me to this day. i like what came after, particularly 'opus dei' but they got a little too silly at times when they started courting western european audiences.
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link
But the Sympathy For The Devil mini-album? Let It Be? Sure, many people bellowed "HAHAHAH, see they sound scary and fascist, but they're cover the BEATLES and the ROLLING STONES! ROFL!", but it was all still great.
I remember one funny "insta-review" sticker on the back of the Let It Be album at KUCI that allowed people to mark their signatures as such:
Love the Beatles, Love this Laibach album [ ]Love the Beatles, Hate this Laibach album [ ]Hate the Beatles, Love this Laibach album [ ]Hate the Beatles, Hate this Laibach album [ ]
Also, the "Who Killed The Kennedys" Germania mix of "Sympathy For The Devil" is classique!
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link
-- donut debonair
We always thought they were saying 'Give me a lite beer' too! But what were they really saying?
― moley, Monday, 25 April 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I'd love to know what Paul thinks of "Let It Be". But I'm pretty sure Ringo loves it.
― Soukesian, Monday, 25 April 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 25 April 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link
"occupied europe" was the first one i bought and it almost scared me at the time, sounded like some sort of massive, occult death opera with all of these weird totalitarian/communist overtones.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
My proudest achievement as a club DJ (and there weren't many) was turning this into my most popular and requested tune for a while.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Gibt mir ein Leitbild!, ie "give me a [leading] vision".
[donut:] Also, I scored the "Die Liebe" 12" the other day, and it rules like early Swans.)
Ein Schauspieler! WHOOOMPH!
― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 11:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I want to know more about their pre-history, before they became the lineup we know today. The Allmusic profile suggests they were more noise/punk beforehand... and while "Die Liebe" from 1985 is probably not too far removed from that, the bio suggests something quite different from the earliest material.
Laibach maybe wants to keep this history as hidden as Kraftwerk wants to hide their "hippie-ish" first three albums? Or not?
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 April 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Early stuff has been reissued on Rekapitulacija 1980-84. There're short sound clips on that amg page.
― OleM (OleM), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut debonair (donut), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I also prefer earlier Laibach to the later stuff, though the later albums are definitely funnier. However, I did write this review to the rather late "Let it Be."
Probably the cutest album in the Laibach discography, Let it Be is the best joke ever released as a full-length album, comparable only to the spectacular (and nearly unlistenable) A.C. baladeering of Picnic Love. Ever wanted to hear mediocre Beatles material transformed into statist industrial music? Well, now’s your chance.
Released rather surprisingly in 1988, before Laibach made the transition to post-communism satire, Let it Be covered the Beatles album of the same name to a tee, minus the title track. Of course these covers are delightfully revisionist, re-imagined in a totalitarian context, complete with Laibach’s militaristic percussive bombast, apocalyptic choral arrangements, thumping bass drum, and blaring trumpet samples. Even the layout of the original album was refinished with a tilt towards glowering Slovenian nationalism, flirting with fascism and Euro-communism, creating stadium rock for the twilight of the gods. Rock concerts or Nuremberg rallies? Laibach doesn’t see the difference, and with this masterstroke of industrial strength satire, the laughter hides a few painful truths. Let it Be is a Stalinist makeover of the rock cult called the Beatles, and with the addition of some Bavarian pub stomping, ascends to absurd levels of ironic humor, while only slightly unsettling the listener. The album is bound to confuse both industrial fans and Beatles fanciers, and this confounding quality only makes the joker funnier and sicker. Is it a good album? Probably not. Is it an entertaining stab at vicious satire? Oh yeah. In the future when people are executed by the state with knife wielding women in public swimming pools, this is the album that will play in the background.
― James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link
BUMP due to my digging "Let It Be" out of the stacks. "Across The Universe" - best beatles cover ever?
― John Justen, Saturday, 18 August 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link
"Opus Dei" rocks. It is truly awesome, one of the greatest albums ever released by anyone. It is the definitive early Laibach album, though I suppose for true fans of the NSK funsters it probably counts as mid period.
"Wat" is also great. One of the things with later period Laibach was the way they went kind of ravey but had difficulty integrating this with their militaristic stomp. here they manage it very well indeed.
They totally rock live. The Laibach singer guy comes across like a total mentalist, which is obviously what you want. The drummer girls are incredibly impressive. Leaving aside their whole ladies in uniform schtick, they are drilled to such perfection that they superlatively embody the whole quasi-militarist Laibach thing.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Saturday, 18 August 2007 10:13 (seventeen years ago) link
I saw them on the same 1992 tour as Ned, but in New York (at the Limelight). They sold Laibach teacups at the merch stand. And in place of an opening act, they had fifteen or twenty minutes of thundering parade kettledrums. One of the greatest shows I've ever seen.
― unperson, Saturday, 18 August 2007 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link
I suppose for true fans of the NSK funsters it probably counts as mid period.
(raises hand)
I have it on tape, hardly listened to it. I'll keep an eye out in the used bins, though. I liked 'em when they were just trying to be scary instead of scaling new heights of ironic.
― sleeve, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link
The "Anthems" retrospective package is a very fine thing, if anyone out there is looking for an introduction. Bonus disc of remixes, the whole thing being packaged as a hardback book with lots of colour reproductions of NSK paintings. Their videos are uniformly (hah!) excellent and well represented on youtube.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 18 August 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link
I've always wondered where they got the audio for Norman Mailer's Playboy interview (which is where a lot of the spoken bits from "Sympathy For The Devil" come from). Is this something that's easy to find in Yugoslavia or something?
― dlp9001, Saturday, 18 August 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
And in place of an opening act, they had fifteen or twenty minutes of thundering parade kettledrums.
there is some legendary gig where they had a topless man come out and chop up logs with an axe onstage as a support act.
I wonder does Vladimir Putin like Laibach.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, 19 August 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link
Did anyone go see the Seattle or Portland shows? I'm thinking about the LA show assuming that it hasn't sold out yet. From: http://nskstate.com/laibach/concerts/volk-tour.php
-----30.09.2008 New York Fillmore New York at Irving Plaza USA28.09.2008 Tijuana B.C. CANCELLED MEX27.09.2008 Mexico City VDMAS Concert Hall MEX26.09.2008 Hollywood Key Club USA25.09.2008 San Francisco Independent USA23.09.2008 Portland Crystal Ballroom USA22.09.2008 Seattle Showbox at the Market USA-----
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Somebody was saying they were going to the LA show, damned if I can remember who...
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:24 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't go, but the Seattle show apparently was really really good. First half: Volk. Second half: classic material.
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 25 September 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Do it! They're incredible live, and it's not like they tour all that often. Saw them in Glasgow, and was charmed to see that much of the back projection was still on real film - which made the precise synchronisation with the onstage performance all the more impressive.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Portland show was sadly under attended (about 200 people in a 1000 capacity ballroom). However, the show was excellent. If you can see them, and you have an open mind, you should see them.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 25 September 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
http://nskstate.com/images/laibach/von_bach/Superheroes_von-bach_250.jpg
― baaderonixx, Friday, 24 October 2008 08:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i've said it before and i'll say it again: if i ever get married i want this band to play my wedding
― imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
"Opus Dei" rocks. It is truly awesome, one of the greatest albums ever released by anyone
^
― imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Thursday, 30 October 2008 18:42 (sixteen years ago) link
"Opus Dei" rocks. It is truly awesome, one of the greatest albums ever released by anyone.
Major major truth.
I know I always do this on Laibach threads, but I need to do it again:
― anatol_merklich, Sunday, 8 March 2009 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Someone needs to start a Laibach goth campaign.
― Goth As A Moth (Bimble), Sunday, 8 March 2009 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link
I guess ILM never cared much about Laibach but their new album seems markedly different and is getting quite a bit of press.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 09:09 (ten years ago) link
Funny, I just decided last night to put some of their albums back in my iPod (Kapital, Jesus Christ Superstars and WAT) and that was before finding out there's a new one. Might have to track a copy down.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 12:55 (ten years ago) link
Good: They are playing Philly and I adore them.Bad: They are supporting Ministry whom I used to also adore but who hasn't done anything relevant in some time.Ugly: $55 per ticket! And that's without fees. Ugh.
I'll probably still go. Seeing this video projected on the screen between bands at a Ministry concert (yes, I know) was a defining moment for me...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OC73Os9NmZE
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 5 April 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link
Jesus, a Ministry/Laibach co-headlining tour would have been the greatest thing ever any time between 1988 and 1992.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 6 April 2015 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Agreed. But we're all older now.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 6 April 2015 12:27 (nine years ago) link
Pretty sure I would still go and see a 1988 era Laibach/Ministry tour (if I could find a babysitter)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 6 April 2015 15:21 (nine years ago) link
how is this not a bigger deal in the press? i haven't heard much at all about this. it seems kind of like a big deal.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/11/laibach-announce-shows-in-north-korea-pyongyang
wonder who will be at the show
― global tetrahedron, Saturday, 27 June 2015 19:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah this is pretty insane
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 27 June 2015 20:53 (nine years ago) link
Would be amazing for this to be your first ever experience of western popular music.
― who epitomises beta better than (ShariVari), Saturday, 27 June 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
I feel like the approval process for this had to involve someone in the NoKo government saying "well... they sound communist."
― that's why god destroyed the radio (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 27 June 2015 21:02 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/LV42Y5U.png
'Peculiar singing' otm.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:53 (nine years ago) link
Also 'rich voice' and 'skilled rendition' tbf.
― I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link
I would so much like this to be released on DVD, but I seriously doubt it will.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:02 (nine years ago) link
omg they did "Arirang"
― I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
"The concerts will be filmed for a documentary to be released in 2016."
― global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link
great pictures on facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Laibach?pnref=story
― scott seward, Thursday, 20 August 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link
Saw them last night perform with an orchestra - I went dragging my feet thinking I was over their schtick - but man I havent laughed (in a good genuine way) at a concert like this in a long time (ever?).The North Korea 'Sound of Music' stuff was pretty boring tbh but having an orchestra behind them is how they were always meant to be.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link
New video for "Sound of Music" - album of the same name coming in November:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oD0W6SSBUA
This might be the most...fun thing they've ever released. The moment when Milan takes over on vocals is really something.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link
Huh.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
outstanding video.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
A live album containing a performance from 1987 has just been released. Apparently it was broadcast on German radio at the time, so it's been bootlegged a bunch, but they've remastered it to be LOUD AS FUCK and it's absolutely head-crushing, somewhere between Foetus's Rife and Swans' Public Castration Is A Good Idea. There are audible instruments (guitar, bass, horns!) and the performance is absolutely on fire. Essential if you're a fan.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link
Loving how they enforce thee genre continuum on this here new thing while playing me fun music
https://open.spotify.com/album/5ppGhLjssYxZeLjKbJFjcl?si=FQhaTuHFQC2pIFQ6-sXcEw
― anatol_merklich, Friday, 20 January 2023 23:50 (one year ago) link
Opus Dei is being reissued as a 2CD set in May, but frankly the bonus content is a little disappointing:
Disc 1Leben heisst Leben (Opus Dei)Geburt einer Nation (One Vision)Leben – TodF.I.A.T. (Let It Be)TransnationalHow the West Was WonOpus Dei (Life is Life)The Great Seal
Bonus tracks:
Geburt einer Nation (Eine Richtung und ein Volk Version)Leben heisst Leben (Marche Funèbre Version)Geburt einer Nation (3. Oktober – Kraftbach – Version)
Disc 2Leben heisst Leben (London, Queen Elizabeth Hall, 1987)Geburt einer Nation (Somewhere in Europe/US, 1987-1989)Leben-Tod (Somewhere in Europe/US, 1987-1989)F.I.A.T. (Paris, Espace Ornano, 1992)Transnational (Somewhere in Europe/US, 1987-1989)How the West Was Won (Somewhere in Europe/US, 1987-1989)Opus Dei (Somewhere in Europe/US, 1987-1989)Leben heisst Leben (Berlin, Quartier Latin, 1987)Geburt einer Nation (Berlin, Quartier Latin, 1987)Leben – Tod (Berlin, Quartier Latin, 1987)How the West Was Won (Berlin, Quartier Latin, 1987)Geburt einer Nation (Vienna, Messepalast, Kaiser Franz Josef Reitschule, 1988)Leben – Tod (San Francisco, The I Beam, 1989)Transnational (San Francisco, The I Beam, 1989)How the West Was Won (San Francisco, The I Beam, 1989)Opus Dei (San Francisco, The I Beam, 1989)
Two and even three live versions of the same songs? Who needs that?
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 14 March 2024 14:11 (eight months ago) link
Especially as most of the music seemed to be coming from backing tracks when I saw them during that era.
― help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 March 2024 14:22 (eight months ago) link
Right? It's not like their shows were jammed with wild improvisational tangents.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 14 March 2024 14:38 (eight months ago) link
I recently unearthed my Through The Occupied Netherlands tape which still sounds SO good. I really wish I'd seen them live in this era, touring with Last Few Days.
Oh, I see they reissued it!
https://staalplaatlabel.bandcamp.com/album/through-the-occupied-netherlands
― stirmonster, Thursday, 14 March 2024 17:21 (eight months ago) link
Naturally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NplGX3WKDqI
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 November 2024 17:16 (two weeks ago) link
not as bad as Rammstein's keyboard player - he's releasing a christmas album too: https://www.rammsteinworld.com/en/news-1387-flake-feiert-weihnachten
― StanM, Thursday, 21 November 2024 17:19 (two weeks ago) link