canned heat classic or dud?

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i really like "on the road again"--i like his weird high voice. but i probably mostly like it because it's what playing on the jukebox in that great scene in "alice in the cities."

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:12 (sixteen years ago) link

classic!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:14 (sixteen years ago) link

KERMIT THE FROG sounding motherfucker.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:15 (sixteen years ago) link

you got something against kermit? "it ain't easy bein' green" and "rainbow connection" rule, you cynic!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:20 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the drone in "on the road again"--do they have other songs with that drone?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:21 (sixteen years ago) link

i think so but i can't remember - y'know, it's blues-based rock so lotsa dronyness. gonna have to pull those lps out and listen again. also, other dudes in the band sing too.

also, check out moby grape's first one. RAD!

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Hell yeah. Stencil, what CH albums do you like? 'Future Blues' is supposed to be great, right?

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i only have "collage" and "hallelujah."

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:40 (sixteen years ago) link

"goin up the country" rules and is kinda droney and has kermit voice and flute.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link

okay a fair amount of "collage" sucks.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 06:05 (sixteen years ago) link

When I was a kid, I had the 45 of "Going Up the Country," pressed off-center, which made it sound that much weirder.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:02 (sixteen years ago) link

whoa. i'd like to hear that.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 25 April 2005 08:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic!!!!!!!!!

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Henry Vestine played on the last Albert Ayler album. It's a pity Ayler didn't survive to return the favour and contribute a few hot tenor licks to CH records.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link

They did records with John Lee Hooker, Little Richard and the Chipmunks (tho not unfortunately the same record) so I'm sure they could have worked with Albert!

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 25 April 2005 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"you got something against kermit? 'it ain't easy bein' green' and 'rainbow connection' rule"

Well, yes, compared to Canned Heat anyway.

Burr (Burr), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"one kind favor" is great. destroy the second LP of "living the blues" though...

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I like "Going Up the Country" but I was let down by *Future Blues.* Good 60's blues-rock, but didn't strike me as anything special.

Not Thaat Chuck, Monday, 25 April 2005 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

like 'em OK, for white blooze. Now, was "Goin' Up the Country" a cover, or did they materialize it out of the Delta ether themselves? I seem to remember hearing that flute bit on an old blues tune of some kind, but don't remember if it was really the same tune or if Vestine and Hite just lifted it.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 25 April 2005 17:48 (sixteen years ago) link

It's an adaptation of an old Henry Thomas song. I forget which one (and it predates Thomas, obviously). The flute bit comes from Thomas - he played the pan flute.

Not Thaat Chuck, Monday, 25 April 2005 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

RAD! i'm listening to Arthur Russel's "Keepin' Up" and it sounds just like Canned Heat. the falsetto, the bluesy shuffle in the middle. awesome

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 25 April 2005 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

the drone in "goin' up the country" is a sort of transposition of certain effects henry thomas got as a one-mand band. as such it's a really interesting contribution to the blues revival. i listened to a bunch of their other songs this weekend and they are more pedestrian, from the vocals on down.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 25 April 2005 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Generally dud from my standpoint, but they had some great moments. I think they were at their best as folklorists -- cuts like Goin Up The Country and On The Road Again were almost straight theft -- although I have a soft spot in my heart for "Speed Kills". What they had going for them was that Bear Hite had great taste, and recognized early on the special quality of No. Miss. hill country drone-blues, and Alan White was a really good harp player.

The album with John Lee Hooker is a total classic, though. Not so much the two band sides, although those are fine, but the first two sides, one with Hooker alone, and the second Hooker with White playing harmonica or piano, constitute the best album Hooker ever made (in my opinion, obviously). And Hite, who produced, clearly deserves a lot of the credit.

Vornado (Vornado), Monday, 25 April 2005 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic! Bob "The Bear" Hite! "Amphetamine Annie"! The drone!

But classic mainly for that weird voice, really. He's the one who commited suicide in 1970, isn't he? Sad. I would have loved to hear more of that voice.

Moosie Grosvenor (Arthur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 01:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I may be wrong, but wasn't Alan Wilson the one with the weird voice?

Whatever, their performance of "Woodstock Boogie" in the Woodstock movie (the extended version) is hilarious. The bassist can't stop thrashing his head to and fro like he's auditioning for Venom ten years early. Some audience member crashes the stage mid-song just to bum a smoke from "The Bear". Classic.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Amphetamine Annie and Sic 'Em Pigs - sound kinda Zappa-ish.

jim wentworth (wench), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 02:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Ugh! Awful dud. "Up the Country" is the greatest argument for the aiming of cannons at hippies ever recorded.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:10 (sixteen years ago) link

did you dislike the muppet show, too?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link

My only complaint with "The Muppet Show" was that Gonzo was given way too much air-time.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

you prefer animal?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

The best thing about Canned Heat was that, at their best, they were a kind of bluesy pop band - they had a nice lightness of touch and knew a catchy song when it came along

Pradaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

"It's an adaptation of an old Henry Thomas song. I forget which one (and it predates Thomas, obviously)."

"Bulldoze Blues" is the song.

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Tuesday, 26 April 2005 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

The album with John Lee Hooker is a total classic, though. Not so much the two band sides, although those are fine, but the first two sides, one with Hooker alone, and the second Hooker with White playing harmonica or piano, constitute the best album Hooker ever made (in my opinion, obviously). And Hite, who produced, clearly deserves a lot of the credit.

― Vornado (Vornado), Monday, April 25, 2005 1:12 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

I fuckin' love this album

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:08 (twelve years ago) link

just wanted to post about it I guess

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

whatever, ill high five that. love that record, love that band.

69, Thursday, 8 October 2009 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think "Goin' Up the Country" is terrific. Stone Cold Classic.

although (full disclosure) I sort of like hippies & don't want to "aim cannons at them"

but yeah. love that bluesy pop sound.

lukevalentine, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:45 (twelve years ago) link

boogie with the canned heat is kind of a desert island disk imo

ian, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:48 (twelve years ago) link

stand by my earlier comments: a few excellent, oddball singles, and a lot of pedestrian boogie 'n' blues.

amateurist, Friday, 9 October 2009 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

"It's an adaptation of an old Henry Thomas song. I forget which one (and it predates Thomas, obviously)."
"Bulldoze Blues" is the song.

Cool, never knew this! Does anyone know what song Canned Heat is "adapting" at Woodstock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V55FfDnkQ6o

They called it "Woodstock Boogie," but I'm sure it's pilfered from something much older, maybe Rev. Gary Davis? The lyric is:

Little red rooster told the little brown hen,
Meet you at the barn about half past ten
Said let's do the boogie

A bit of it turns up in "New Boogie Chillun" by George Thorogood, and I saw Lydia Lunch cover this with The Devil Dogs years ago.

Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Friday, 9 October 2009 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"one kind favor" is great. destroy the second LP of "living the blues" though...

OTM, that song is amazing but OTM to your 2nd point too. There is a lot of dull stuff to wade through but the Canned Heat I like, I really really like

I Pity the Poxy Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

What the hell - how come I can see that Youtube video here at work for the first time??

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

It's the Power of the Boogie

I Poxy the Fule (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 November 2009 14:39 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Future Blues is so damn good. Vinyl usually > CD, no arguments there, but this is one of those albums that just sounds like a different (better) record on wax. Incredible guitar tones courtesy of new recruit Mandel, who just sizzles on this. Hot damn. Cozy up, nurse a j, and don't forget to boogie!

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 November 2011 04:04 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZXRWgKe1x8

fables of frogbs (lpz), Thursday, 3 November 2011 16:39 (ten years ago) link

Holy shit - again this thread gets revived and AGAIN the Youtubes are unblocked!
It IS the power of the boogie!

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:55 (ten years ago) link

Ever wake up with bullfrogs on your brain?

Trip Maker, Thursday, 3 November 2011 20:58 (ten years ago) link

Was "Poor Moon" ever released as a proper single?? I thought it was the B-side to the not-so-awesome "Sic Em Pigs." Damn what an amazing song.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 November 2011 21:35 (ten years ago) link

Poor Moon rules! Wanna find that on vinyl.

bear has little fear of hades (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 4 November 2011 08:09 (ten years ago) link

love canned heat so much

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 4 November 2011 16:00 (ten years ago) link

Was "Poor Moon" ever released as a proper single??

Yes, afaik. There's two versions of it, a longer one with different bits is on the (brilliant) "Uncanned!" comp., I prefer that version

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 4 November 2011 17:05 (ten years ago) link

five months pass...

love canned heat so much

― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, November 4, 2011 11:00 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tell me what albums to buy

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 20 April 2012 06:17 (nine years ago) link

i feel like i've heard a million new indie bands that basically want to be canned heat

amteurist: ALL OF THEM

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 April 2012 09:31 (nine years ago) link

REALLY?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 21 April 2012 01:31 (nine years ago) link

The first time I heard "Going Up the Country" I thought it was like 30 years older than it really was.

Poliopolice, Saturday, 21 April 2012 02:48 (nine years ago) link

four years pass...

You guys, the Montreux 1970 videos and the Playboy After Dark videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTXbG1oCbjM

timellison, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 00:48 (four years ago) link

And the Woodstock videos, Monterey video (only one?), and Beat Club videos.

timellison, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 00:50 (four years ago) link

Reading Rebecca Davis' Alan Wilson biography (Blind Owl Blues). She states that Wilson did not sing in falsetto, but in the upper part of his normal voice. (I actually thought this was so, listening to one song - I can't remember which - where Wilson hits some lower notes. Didn't hear that shift that you expect with the switch from falsetto to normal voice or vice versa.)

timellison, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:52 (four years ago) link

Yes, that's not falsetto.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:56 (four years ago) link

is that bio good?

tylerw, Wednesday, 11 January 2017 23:59 (four years ago) link

Just started it - so far so good! She has done two versions of it; the latest one came out just three years ago. Looks so far to me like a proper job and well-researched.

timellison, Thursday, 12 January 2017 00:16 (four years ago) link

I haven't read the updated version but I enjoyed it when I read it. It's a thousand times better than Fito's terrible Canned Heat book

Wimmels, Thursday, 12 January 2017 00:32 (four years ago) link

ILM Canned Heat posse heard "Get Off My Back" from Hallelujah?

timellison, Thursday, 19 January 2017 02:09 (four years ago) link

Certainly.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 January 2017 11:42 (four years ago) link

Yeah. Hearing some of these things for the first time, like "Pulling Hair Blues" from Live in Europe. Just Wilson and Taylor for nine minutes.

timellison, Thursday, 19 January 2017 19:06 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4ZvA5thVYk

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:54 (three years ago) link

Don't know anything about Canned Heat, except they are another one of those west coast Bill Graham bands I never listen to. However! Last week I was playing "Martinis & Bikinis" by Sam Phillips for a friend, and we were noticing the awesome bass playing. So we look at the credits and see a few familiar names. Colin Moulding (OK), Jerry Scheff (sure), Marvin Etzioni (from Lone Justice) and then ... Larry Taylor. Taylor's name seemed familiar but a brain fart kept it from coming to mind. Anyway, Larry Taylor was Canned Heat's bassist, who went on to be a kickass session guy. He played bass on all the Monkees albums, tons of Tom Waits' stuff, plus piles of one-off sessions. Pretty cool.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 11:45 (three years ago) link

You mean, The Mole. I think he was a session guy before and during Canned Heat?

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 12:07 (three years ago) link

I have Uncanned which has a lotof their best stuff on it.
Pretty great.

& yeah enjoyed them on Monterey etc etc.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 12:12 (three years ago) link

xpost Yeah, I have no idea!I think he was a permanent member of Canned Heat, though, so it wasn't just a session gig.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 12:14 (three years ago) link

Yes, he was permanent in Canned Heat, but he obviously had a reputation around LA as a musician. This track helps explain why...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhBcjuOUAM

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 12:17 (three years ago) link

I guess the thing with Canned heat was being extreme music nerds to start off with so having a couple of members whose nicknames referred to their sight problems isn't that odd.
Wasn't at least one of them active in rediscovering delta blues artists and getting them back out playing.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 14:04 (three years ago) link

After Son House's 'rediscovery' in 1964, it was evident that House had forgotten his songs due to his long absence from music. Wilson showed him how to play again the songs House had recorded in 1930 and 1942. Wilson played House's old recordings for him and demonstrated them on guitar to revive House's memory.[8]

Hite was introduced to Alan Wilson by Henry Vestine and the two of them helped convince blues pianist Sunnyland Slim (1906-1995) to get back into the recording studio to record. In 1965, aged 22, Hite formed a band with Wilson. Vestine joined soon after and this trio formed the core of Canned Heat. The trio were eventually joined by Larry Taylor (bass) and Frank Cook (drums).

Also, Hite allegedly owned 15,000 78s!

Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 14:36 (three years ago) link

bill barth, henry vestine and john fahey tracked down skip james in hospital in mississippi in 1964. al wilson sounds very jamesish to me

ogmor, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 14:57 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening again to a nice vinyl Future Blues this morning and as always thinking it funny that Al Wilson's last issued vocal is him telling a groupie to go to hell (on "London Blues").

Infidels, Like Dylan In The Eighties (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 December 2018 17:28 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Blues/boogie rock generally isn't my thing, but every song sung by Alan Wilson = Classic

J. Sam, Saturday, 20 November 2021 00:31 (one week ago) link

Heat fans should look for an obscure made-in-Florida indie film by exploitation director William Grefe called The Naked Zoo (1970) which features a scene of the band playing “One Kind Favor” at a “house party” - actually a separately shot sequence later inserted into the film’s party scene. It’s the Harvey Mandel lineup. Also the film stars Rita Hayworth near the end of her career. Weird to think of Canned Heat and Rita Hayworth appearing in the same film.

Josefa, Saturday, 20 November 2021 01:59 (one week ago) link

lobby poster of that is upthread, but w/o info you've provided, thanks!
Also, this revive reminds me I still want to hear the Al Wilson anthology:

(2-CD set)His was the voice of the Woodstock generation who asked 'baby, do you want to go' in the Canned Heat anthem Going Up the Country. Now Severn Records releases The Blind Owl, a compilation of Alan Wilson's greatest works with the legendary band he helped form. The Blind Owl features 20 songs of satisfying blues boogie including My Time Ain't Long, Mean Old World, and the band's breakout recording On the Road Again, plus Wilson's prophetic Poor Moon and fan favorite Time Was. In September of 1970 Alan overdosed, making him a member of the 27 Club. Still his legacy remains strong today as proven in this collection of remarkable recordings. The Blind Owl is a must for serious blues collectors as well as fans of 60's psychedelic rock. Packaged in 2-CD digipack with cover art provided by The 27s book.
more info:
https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Owl-Alan-Wilson/dp/B00

They've also got the bio by Rebecca Davis, praised upthread:

Blind Owl Blues; 2nd edition (March 28, 2013)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Vj8amKwIL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

dow, Saturday, 20 November 2021 02:52 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDsSYL2GcaY

clemenza, Saturday, 20 November 2021 03:01 (one week ago) link

I listen to a lot of 60s music, but I've always been put off listening to Canned Heat (I did hear their record with John Lee Hooker). Just looking at their dreary album covers gives me enough of the blues. Even though I suspect they're probably better than Quicksilver Message Service or Country Joe and the Fish, both of whom I have listened to...

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 November 2021 04:42 (one week ago) link

Heat fans should look for an obscure made-in-Florida indie film by exploitation director William Grefe called The Naked Zoo (1970) which features a scene of the band playing “One Kind Favor” at a “house party” - actually a separately shot sequence later inserted into the film’s party scene. It’s the Harvey Mandel lineup. Also the film stars Rita Hayworth near the end of her career. Weird to think of Canned Heat and Rita Hayworth appearing in the same film.

I posted about it upthread, however the youtube of them performing seems to have disappeared.

When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 November 2021 10:51 (one week ago) link


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