ariel pink is to: rotten sloppy joes AS excepter is to: overpriced rancid foie gras

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worst show of the year? tonic tonight. excepter and ariel pink. granted Hisham's "A soft circle" was really good, excepter and ariel pink were pretty much equally shitty for totally different reasons (as Poortheater can attest to)
Excepter decided to wank off on stage, complete with lead female singer wearing a fur coat and sunglasses (indoors of course) and lead male vocalist wearing some sort of "skat" hat, jumping aroun stage. the "DJ" as it were, never faced us, and only rewarded the few that stuck around to watch with the occasional sample or beat.
all in all, i heard about a dozen people gripe about the pretentiousness of the band and all around gratingness of the music.
Now Ariel Pink is a different story. I think his recordings are fun and interesting, although not entirely amazing. Kinda like if they show up on shuffle I like it, but I can't sit through a whole album of his noodling. I was excited to see how he's play a show, and was really hoping he'd either A: reinterpret the songs in an interesting way, or B: have rehearsed them so they'd at least sound fuller or true to the album.
Unfortunately he chose C: play a sloppy , unrehearsed drunken version of them, with his minions who haphazardly screamed into the mics for no particular reason, with tons of feedback. Midway through the show i stepped out for a cigarette and found about half the audience outside taking a "break". The c onsensus was unanimous. the show was crap.
It seemed ariel and his gang were giving the big middle finger to the audience, with the attitude of "well we suck, we don't care, you paid ten bucks, here we go playing a crap verison of what you wanted to hear". I don't buy the well it's wild and free act, b/c his drunken mumblings and staggered swagger seemed more rehearsed than the actual songs.

I knew the evening was shot when the hopped up on redbull (no joke) keyboard player declared in a totally ironic but unfunny way that he was there for the pussy.

all in all it sucked. i stayed the whole set too except for the cig break.
wasn't worth the time or money.

and from what i heard most seemed to feel that way

breezy, Saturday, 16 April 2005 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

uhhh. ok.

the show was rad.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 04:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, a guy who makes crazy ramshackle one-man-band recordings on his cassette multitrack doesn't put on a tight live performance? I'm outraged.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 16 April 2005 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

ARIEL PINK SUCKS SO HARD

Tyrone Willie Demetrius DeAndre DeShawn (deangulberry), Saturday, 16 April 2005 06:26 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, i would've never guessed breezy wouldn't like Excepter. who'da thunk it?

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 16 April 2005 07:15 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll give you pink (dude's got shtick but it's bratty richie rich shit), but, from where i was standing (next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred), excepter was spectacular. misfit toys, or autistics with telepathy, and it's the most exciting stuff happening in the city right now (no question). esp seeing them live you start to piece together their logic, how they interact with one another, etc.

xpost lemin

btw (funny this hasn't been mentioned yet-- maybe this isn't really special) r. stevie moore showed up and played as part of the haunted graffiti. he was wearing a bright orange outfit at the bottom of his pants he had an embroidered monopoly guy patch. ariel did "hanging with my heroes".

Nick Sylvester, Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

haha the "DJ" was dan hougland from other music btw

Nick Sylvester, Saturday, 16 April 2005 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

oops, when i said show was rad, i was ONLY referring to excepter. i left before ariel pink went on.

breezy mentioned in the GGD thread that he thinks excepter are crap. then he pays $10 to see them and post here how much they sucked?

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

breezy/poortheatre should not venture away from their nyu dorms.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty get a grip. i dont' go to NYU. I've been out of college for years. you think obviously it's super cool to "dig" pretentious girls flopping around in sunglasses and fur coast moaning into a mic. I knew the DJ was the Other Music guy but who cares. I paid ten bucks to see if Ariel Pink would do something cool. instead he wasted my time with drunken yelling and pointlessness. It's annoying and insulting and I think the few people I heard say they liked it are just saying that for fear of dicks like cutty shutting them down. as for seeing excepter, I wanted to give them another shot. I saw them once before and was unimpressed, but not annoyed, this time they decided to go further and just act like idiots on stage. I saw seriously dozens of people leaving during both shows. Obviously Cutty was one of the hardcore fans up front casually nodding his head, really FEELING the moaning. you go cutty.

breezy, Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

as for Ariel who makes ramshackle recordings on his tape recorder being bad live. He's been on tour for 3 months. Playing his set every night. You;d think he'd eventually FIGURE OUT a way to get slightly tighter and would WANT to sound good. Honestly it seemed like noone on stage cared, all night, including excepter. Ps. Tell the Other Music guy to turn around.

breezy, Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

RIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE WAS "PRETENDING" TO ENJOY THE PERFORMANCE.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, god forbid some people actually like music like that

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

SOME PEOPLE EVEN "PRETENDED" TO BUY EXCEPTER'S NEW CD.

(it was all a stage though, tendered in fake money)

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

so clever cutty! so clever! any excuses for the ridiculous stage presence as well? or were you into that pretention too? ultimately it's run of the mill noise. don't worry cutty, even you will forget about it one day too.

breezy, Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

you don't have to include "is to" if you include a colon.

mitch dub (ano ano), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

excuses:pretention as noise:$10

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man who's gonna drop the 'you just don't GET x" card?! fucking do it cutty

Nick Sylvester, Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

nick, you just did!

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

really, i respect breezy's opinion but his hyperbole is growing a little tiresome.

on an earlier thread he describes gang gang dance as "the worst band ever," and in this thread, calls last night's show "worst of the year."

YO, WE GET IT. YOU DON'T LIKE THESE BANDS. STOP LISTENING TO THEM/PAYING TO SEE THEM AND YOU'LL GET OVER IT. STOP BEING SO AMAZED THAT OTHERS DERIVE PLEASURE FROM THEM.

cutty (mcutt), Saturday, 16 April 2005 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

ok. GGD not worst band ever. Last night's show really was the worst I've seen this year. cutty's defensiveness---alarming. either you are in one of these bands, or are friends with them.

I paid to see Ariel Pink. he put on a really poor show. I think anyone can see that. Excepter was just an unfortunate encounter I will SURELY avoid at all costs in the future. so fear not cutty, you wont have to read anymore posts about at least my opposing view to yours.

warning to others: be careful not to disagree with cutty. he takes is VERY personally if you don't see eye to eye with him. god forbid you exagerrate for a moment on the holy grail ILM.

breezy, Saturday, 16 April 2005 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

breezy/poortheatre should not venture away from their nyu dorms.

hahaha, oh man.

in retrospect, i actually did like the excepter set. they are the most motley crew i have ever seen on stage. they had it all: the slacker; the Sky Masterson; the Buchenwald inmate; the patchouli fiend; "Her Sneak" shelob, last spawn of the ungoliant. they'd be a bang-up act if they wouldn't take themselves so seriously. i didn't mind that the DJ didn't face us (besides, that guy's always really nice to me when i go into OM-- i didn't know he was in the group).

the ariel pink show was just plain bad. they sounded like shit! you could tell that they knew it, too. i kind of wanted to say, "Please don't play another song until you get your shit together. We like you but you sound terrible." he probably would have obliged, too. i don't think he was trying to hoodwink us. i felt bad, though, because i think his parents were standing right in front of me.. and you're right, breezy, there was a definite vibe of, "Am I not getting this or does this suck?" i left after "wait for kate."

from where i was standing (next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred)

you were standing right next to me! i thought about yelling out, "ILXOR!!!" just to see how many of you were there, but.. that dude that used to have the one huge dread-- doesn't he sometimes play with Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey when they play in nyc?

that was R. Stevie Moore!? i don't really know his music, but isn't he, like, the original Ariel Pink? That would have been like Throbbing Gristle playing on stage with Excepter! I wanted to grab the mic every time that spider banshee came down and bumped into me and say, "What-a-day-what-a-day-what-a-day-Oh-Oh!"

Is the new Excepter CD good? I like KA.

And, for the record, I love Gang Gang Dance!

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

next to the old video camera guy who used to have one huge dred but who's since cut off said one huge dred

Joly, http://www.punkcast.com/ he who printed all those old pins for like, Rough Trade and The Roxy era-punk bands. A true legend and punk rock-n-roll soldier. I think he played with Hawkwind once in the 70s.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 16 April 2005 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost to mitch dub - isn't it a double colon so x:y::w:r?

i think that adam forkner should do a double bill with ariel pink - the show (at least for philly) would last maybe a total of 15 min or so?

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 16 April 2005 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Poortheatre - I am in love. Call me.

http://www.horacemann.pvt.k12.ny.us/activities/guysdolls98/gallery/sarasky1.JPG

Greenwich CT, Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

haha, it's him!

poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 16 April 2005 19:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll only accept criticism from members of GANG GANG DANCE

noizem duke (noize duke), Saturday, 16 April 2005 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"NICE WHITE HAT"

sorry el excepterinos, i really wanted to go but couldn't leave teh beisbol until 3 AM. : (

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 16 April 2005 21:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I love cutty!

Talk about Soft Circle please!

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Saturday, 16 April 2005 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

the times i've seen hisham solo it's been sorta disappointing but maybe he was good last night, i dunno. johan santana gave up his first homerun since august of last year, but still got 10 strikeouts and the win, dig?

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 16 April 2005 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Hstencil, you couldn't have chosen a more appropriate metaphor with which to confuse me.

Samuel Glickstein (nordicskilla), Saturday, 16 April 2005 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

ask gygax! about johan santana, dude.

hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 16 April 2005 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

THIS THREAD RULES!

ddb (ddb), Monday, 18 April 2005 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
warning to others: be careful not to disagree with cutty. he takes is VERY personally if you don't see eye to eye with him. god forbid you exagerrate for a moment on the holy grail ILM.

-- breezy (breezypoint7...), April 16th, 2005.

the Stanmore signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the holy grail ILM.

the Stanmore signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

the holy grail ILM.

the Stanmore signal (nordicskilla), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty IS the law, cheese.

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm probably high on all sorts of shit

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Labrador? What's that, man?
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/1125/photo/i_cheech_hi.jpg

The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

IT IS A TOOTHPICK

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

cutty is PERRY MASON and HAMILTON BERGER combined.

Earl Summerfield (Grodd), Friday, 17 June 2005 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

NICE HAT

DAEREST V1CE MAGAZINE!!!!! (ex machina), Friday, 17 June 2005 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I AM EXCEPTOR'S STYLE CONSULTANT

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

You're doing a hell of a job.

Gold and Old, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:12 (fifteen years ago) link

touch cutty and die

gear (gear), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 04:36 (fifteen years ago) link

funny thread

Idle Idle (idleidleidle), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 07:42 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
all you people think too much. ArielPink is the shit regardless of what your expert ears tell you, you should be glad he's even around. If not, turn up your headphones and shut the fuck up.

Eddie Briggs, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link

w3rddd

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

SHOULD 3X#CPT0rrr HIRE A "STEALTH" MARKETOR?

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

better usage of the money: beer.

Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

YOU PUT CHOCOLLATE IN MY PEANUT BUTTER!

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

What ever happened to Nick Slyvester?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm too lazy to read this thread, did anyone ever point out that the constructed analogy doesn't actually ascribe any negative verdict on the bands in question?

Dan (Cat : Flamethrower :: Dog : Bazooka) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

no, but we pointed out that thread creator is an absolute moran.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 30 March 2006 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link

really though, ariel pink is awful live.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 30 March 2006 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously

lf (lfam), Thursday, 30 March 2006 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i disagree just a wee bit-- i thought it was some drunken guys making chaotic swirling noise pop.

(also worth it to mention that neither lf nor i knew that it was ariel pink until a few months after the concert)

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 30 March 2006 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
I saw Ariel Pink live earlier this year and he was terrible. We left after like three songs. To be fair, though, I was already smitten with his records and when I was on my way to the show, I wondered, "how could he possibly pull off his music in a live setting?

Then I got to the show and realized, "I see... the answer is, he clearly can't pull it off. like, at all." and so my friends and I left long before he brought in the local band to serve as backup. His music just doesn't lend itsel to a live venue.

Morgan Patrick (public_radio), Thursday, 10 August 2006 05:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Ariel Pink makes me cry.

Jubalique (Jubalique), Thursday, 10 August 2006 10:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i luv trust fund stoner hipsters from beverly hills who pretend to be outsider artists.

Jacobo Rock (jacobo rock), Thursday, 10 August 2006 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link

This Bob Dylan. he cannot sing.

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:01 (fourteen years ago) link

you think obviously it's super cool to "dig" pretentious girls flopping around in sunglasses and fur coast moaning into a mic.


someday I hope to travel the Fur Coast as well

J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:40 (fourteen years ago) link

ihttp://www.namibian.org/travel/lodging/private/lodge_photo/capecross1.jpg
NIGHTCLUBBIN, WE'RE NIGHTCLUBBIN

Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
i just found out vudi from american music club plays wit ariel pink now; WTF?

akm, Thursday, 5 April 2007 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link

ariel pink would suck if he WASN'T a complete mess live.
http://www.bikethehoan.com/tlwlogo.jpg

Fetchboy, Thursday, 5 April 2007 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBikNb5oEcU

JW, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 06:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Would it be super-duper lame of me to note that I've been annoyed by this thread's title for nearly TWO YEARS now? The analogy doesn't actually insult either act! They just have equivalent relationships to spoiled food!

nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 06:29 (thirteen years ago) link

(I guess it could be suggesting that Excepter are classier and more expensive than Ariel Pink, but generally speaking it says not much at all.)

nabisco, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7861/sealplff3.gif

haitch, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 06:52 (thirteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/hou/623427636.html

sexyDancer, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Ariel Pink once and thought it was HILARIOUS. I'm kind of a loud laugher, this girl right in front of me kept turning around and giving me dirty "how DAREE you ruin this for me!" looks, which only made me LOL all the Ler.

nickalicious, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Ariel Pink live back in November, and thought he was amazing...(of course, he had a full band, with Cass McCombs on guitar)...

henry s, Monday, 31 March 2008 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

I like both of these bands, can you call Ariel Pink a band? I like that band and that guy.

I know, right?, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:24 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Exceptor a few weeks back in Ithaca and one of the members clearly looked pretty pregnant, at least to me and the friends I was with. Not a big deal, except her eyes looked really glazed over...it was really sad.

Z S, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

EXCEPTOR

cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

WHO EVEN REALLY LIKES THIS BANDDDD OMG

cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

it's all about sunrise

cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

rest assured, pregnant exceptyrs are not smoking funny cigarettes

sexyDancer, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:38 (twelve years ago) link

crazy music = natural high

dan selzer, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:46 (twelve years ago) link

glazed eyes obvs irritation from the smoke machine

cutty, Monday, 31 March 2008 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

haha, does 'the last dance' sample the music from the last scene of aguirre, wrath of god? these guys r such jokesters

elan, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 01:27 (twelve years ago) link

ARIEL PINK SUCKS SO HARD

jeff, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOhKrL5DB1Y

noizez duk, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 03:54 (twelve years ago) link

xp no

winston, Thursday, 3 April 2008 02:07 (twelve years ago) link

kill ppl music video lololol

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 3 April 2008 02:27 (twelve years ago) link

I saw Ariel Pink live back in November, and thought he was amazing...(of course, he had a full band, with Cass McCombs on guitar)...

-- henry s, Monday, March 31, 2008 6:55 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

yeah dogg im with you. im no obsessive, but ive heard four or five albums of ariel pink stuff (all of it recorded around 99-01 i think fwiw), and i basically think it all rules. i saw him with cass mccombs in the fall, and he was great, fuck the haters

ive never seen excepter u_u but i like the hamburger song ^_^

69, Thursday, 3 April 2008 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

i saw him with cass mccombs in the fall, and he was great, fuck the haters

penalty box for intentionally trying to get copy/pasted into fuck the haters thread

sanskrit, Thursday, 3 April 2008 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

saw ariel pink last night, they were really great. sorta ramshackle - hazy rhythms coming through like a warped cassette tape, warm and damaged. lots of reverb'd hissy vocal textures and group singing. two basses. they were selling 'doldrums' on vinyl for $40 and some tour only 'oddities' cd-r for $25 which i thought was sort of ridiculous, but whatever. bought 'doldrums' on cd, loving it. ba da ba ba ba

6335, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

was vudi playing with him/them?

akm, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

special congratulaitons to sexyDancer for taking T-Rex obsession to logical end by having his progeny (sexy)dance(r) right out the womb.

beta blog, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:37 (twelve years ago) link

i had to look up who vudi was but no, he wasn't there - xp

6335, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 20:50 (twelve years ago) link

eight months pass...

Ariel Pink puts on a tight show now! Kate I Wait --> Flashback --> Can't Hear My Eyes to kick it off, Trepanated Earth for the encore with wiggy vocal f-x

dmr, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

played w/ them last week and they were just as good as the last time i saw them, altho w/ some lineup changes

6335, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

Hows about Excepter? I really love the idea behind them.

filthy dylan, Friday, 3 April 2009 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

I haven't seen Excepter in a while, I just bumped this thread for the old time lols

I did catch a SexyD solo SETH show a few months ago

this one:

dmr, Friday, 3 April 2009 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...
one month passes...

Presidence is so dope

Pompoussin (admrl), Saturday, 19 March 2011 03:08 (nine years ago) link

nine years pass...

lol. I'll take the fois gras.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 7 January 2021 23:14 (two weeks ago) link

A+ revive

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 7 January 2021 23:23 (two weeks ago) link

I would love to hear Excepter cover Rancid and Foie Gras tbqh

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 8 January 2021 05:48 (two weeks ago) link


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