Albums and songs referencing James Joyce

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Hm. The revived NoMeansNo thread reminded me of this. When I first discovered & devoured Joyce, by some coincidence (OR IS IT?) everything* I checked out (incl things owned for some time) seemed to contain some reference to the man's work. I think the chronological order was something like

a) Who's that extra band member on the inner sleeve of The Pogues' If I Should Fall From Grace With God?
b) Apparently, JJ dude was inspiration of über-heroine Kate Bush's "The Sensual World"!
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actual discovery & devoury of books**
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c) Whoah, this NoMeansNo cover inlay has an FW quote!
d) Whoah, there's a JJ lyric on The Madcap Laughs
e) Whoah, it says "Brekkek Kekkek Kekkek Kekkek! Koax Koax Koax! Ualu Ualu! Ualu! Quaouahhh!" on the SPINE of this Current 93/Coil/something split-12"-EP-mini-LP thing!!! WTF?

Could you help me expand the catalogue?

*) hyperbole, obv.
**) in the case of Finnegans Wake, admittedly fragmented.

OleM (OleM), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

that Dead Can Dance song, "Ulysses."

Ian John50n (orion), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

d) Golden Hair?

Masked Gazza, Friday, 8 April 2005 23:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Indeed.

OleM (OleM), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Rejoyce" by Jefferson Airplane (on "After Bathing at Baxter's")

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Sonic Youth quote Turko the Terrible - "I am the boy who can enjoy invisibility" - on "Secret Girl" on Evol. I assume they got this via Ulysses, but can't be sure.

Therapy? - "James Joyce is fucking my sister" - from "Potato Junkie"(?)

The "Brekkek Kekkek" line is from Aristophanes' The Frogs, so may or may not be via Finnegans Wake

I think there was a C86-era indie band called Baby Tuckoo? (From Portrait of the Artist, maybe)

I guess The Dubliners don't count ;)

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

able tasmans 'a conversation with mark byrami'

"One day we'll meet and end,
Some grace may, or may not be our friend"
"How do you, how do you, how do you feel?
Come on now tell me now Mark"
He crosses his legs and leans over to me
"Let some secrets out!"
"Find time, find what you need
find grace falls, on the left wing/at your heel.
The pure combination of tangent and arc
and the strength of your heart."
"Is the cure for a cold really 16 Galloises?"
He says "Yes yes yes yes yes that's the way
1000 white minis parked on the roadside
And they've all come and they're shooting machine-guns.
That's the way that we get things done quick."
"Here, why don't we move? Waste time and fear fear for our safety?"
He clutches three inches on top of his belt, says what he's earning.
"I'm wealthy I'm poor and I need nothing else."
James Joyce, (vs), The last peoples Voice
"How do you say things both radical stupid and wise.
And such good advice?"
"Is that the rapture is life!"

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The most full on adaptation that I can think of is this wild ass record "The Coach with The Six Insides" on ESP Disk by Jean Erdman- it's an improv/theater rendition of excerpts of Finnegan's Wake and it's pretty "out".

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Hawkwind's "Quark, Strangeness and Charm", via the bloke who named Quarks, via Finnegans Wake

Thom Yorke says "I float down the Liffey" from "How to Disappear Completely" is from a dream he had, but it's very FW.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

isn't the title track on Kate Bush's 'The Sensual World' adapted from a passage in Ulysses?

mnml lrkr, Friday, 8 April 2005 23:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

It's from the Molly Bloom chapter, sorta. Which is where the repeated "Yes" comes from.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Stephen 'Tin Tin' Duffy - Kiss Me

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 8 April 2005 23:59 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Patrick Fitzgerald/ Justin Swales' post-Kitchens band Stephen Hero takes it's name from an alternate take on Portrait of the Artist, but I'm not sure about Joyce references in their songs or album titles/ themes.

BTW: Mr Leopold Bloom ate with relish the inner organs of beasts and fowls. He liked thick giblet soup, nutty gizzards, a stuffed roast heart, liverslices fried with crustcrumbs, fried hencods' roes. Most of all he liked grilled mutton kidneys which gave to his palate a fine tang of faintly scented urine.

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Along similar lines: Daedelus & Two Gallants

Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Drew's post reminded me of Cage's Roaratorio and Berio's Thema: Omaggio a Joyce, which I forgot in original post because I actively sought them out due to this connection.

OleM (OleM), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Thom Yorke says "I float down the Liffey" from "How to Disappear Completely" is from a dream he had, but it's very FW.

-- Ferlin Husky (noodle_vagu...), April 9th, 2005.

Ferlin, check out the "Wandering Rocks" chapter of Ulysses -- Bloom (or is it Stephen?) tosses a religious flyer into the Liffey and throughout the chapter the reader sees Dublin through its point of view. Joyce actually studied flow charts to see where a floating object would be in the Liffey during the period the chapter encapsulates.

PB, Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Game Theory's "Here Comes Everybody" (I assume it's a Finnegans Wake ref.)

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The "Brekkek Kekkek" line is from Aristophanes' The Frogs, so may or may not be via Finnegans Wake

The Frogs just has "brekekekex koax", I believe. The rest of it marks it as Joyce, I'd say.

OleM (OleM), Saturday, 9 April 2005 00:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The word 'squarepusher' is somewhere in Ulysses, I can't remember where and for what.

caspar (caspar), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Wake's name was inspired by Finnegan's Wake, and they had an album and song called Here Comes Everybody.

Ian Riese-Moraine. To Hell with you and your gradual evolution! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 9 April 2005 01:57 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nation of ulysses

dave q (listerine), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:32 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"like finnegan, christians repent then sin again"

missy elliot feat lil' kim - "hit 'em wit da hee"

prada robot (disco stu), Saturday, 9 April 2005 02:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

in the talib kweli song "memories" he says:

Yo, it kinda make me think of way back when
I was the portrait of the artist as a young man

scout (scout), Saturday, 9 April 2005 04:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

second song (title track) from beck's new album has this random voice shouting some shit mentioning jj by name in the middle there

swvl (vozick), Saturday, 9 April 2005 05:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

when last heard from, Papa Sprain (Gary McKendry) was working on an epic musical interpretation of Finnegans Wake. his Butterfly Child ally, Joe Cassidy, was also deeply influenced by JJ, though i can't point to specific passages.

Martyn Bates recorded two CDs of JJ's poetry set to very sparse chamber music. that's gotta challenge Erdman and Cage for their JJ devotion dollar.


echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Saturday, 9 April 2005 05:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The word 'squarepusher' is somewhere in Ulysses, I can't remember where and for what.

I think it's a slang term for a soldier, or possibly a policeman. It's in one of Bloom's monologues, either in "Lestrygonians" or "Circe" I think.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 9 April 2005 08:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yes, I was going to mention Squarepusher. Also random bits of pop culture references - Love loves to love is in there somewhere, there's a bit which says "a man's a man for a' that" which I'm sure is a refrain in a Prolapse song... there's a mention of a Venus in furs in there somewhere, too... um, I'm sure some more, also...

Fire Records are putting out a James Joyce compilation album sometime soon...

emil.y (emil.y), Saturday, 9 April 2005 11:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ted leo/rx - my vien ilin:

We make our days as they make us
As I must, as Odysseus
Make myself my own Telemachus
"Bous Stephanos, Stephanoumenos Dedalus!"

And if it hasn't been a bust
Then "land-ho, Ulysseus!"
And all of us like Dedalus:
Dead, dead all of us.

barandstons, Saturday, 9 April 2005 12:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"And the Head Coach/
Wants no cissies/
So he reads to us from somethin' called Ulysses"

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Surely Lloyd Cole must be involved here somehow? Pinefox?

Masked Gazza, Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:12 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Lou Reed, Blue Mask. Track 1, My House:

"My Dedalus to your Bloom was such a perfect wit"

He's singing about the ghost of Delmore Schwarz, who haunts Lou's house in the song.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Joyce references are a conscious way to make people think you're more erudite and trendy than you really are.

PB, Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A House "Endless Art"

neil tacus (tacit), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

PB, Joyce is trendy? I must have missed something.

erklie, Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:31 (twelve years ago) Permalink

PB, Joyce is trendy? I must have missed something.
-- erklie (erklie50...), April 9th, 2005.

Of course, in the indie, thick-frame specs, English-major crowd.

PB, Saturday, 9 April 2005 22:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

there's some cheesy house track with parts of penelope ("and his heart was going like mad, and i said...") as vocals

Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

only heard it once, randomly, in a mall somewhere. freaked me out.

Lukas (lukas), Saturday, 9 April 2005 23:17 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Can it be taken on faith that the word "scrotumtightening" simply must have popped up in a metal/hardcore song at one time or another?

I guess its just the word 'trendy' that befuddles me, PB. IMO Joyce is canonized, one of the greats, and therefore bypasses trends since he will be sought out and read by many no matter what. If hipsters start blinding themselves in one eye to earn streetcred, well...

erklie, Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:36 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Joyce references are a conscious way to make people think you're more erudite and trendy than you really are.

What are people who make wanky statements like this trying to prove then?

Maybe lots of people really like Joyce.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Lots of people do really like Joyce... I would be surprised if there weren't a couple of posers who used him as a badge of erudition, but to be honest I think that they're minute in numbers and possibly less offensive than the people who accuse everyone who mentions Joyce of being pretentious (ANTI-INTELLECTUALISTS = INSECURE STUPID PEOPLE).

emil.y (emil.y), Sunday, 10 April 2005 14:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm surprised Stephen Malkmus has never mentioned him as an influence.

"The great fall of the offwall entailed at such short notice the pftjschute of Finnegan, erse solid man, that the humptyhillhead of humself prumptly sends an unquiring one well to the west in quest of his tumptytumtoes: and their upturnpikepointandplace is at the knock out in the park where oranges have been laid to rust upon the green since devlinsfirst loved livvy.”- James Joyce, Finnegan's Wake

Wouldn't sound out of place on Wowee Zowee.

Cunga (Cunga), Monday, 11 April 2005 01:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

ha, missy's "makin all you other rappers begin again / like finnegan" just made me say WAIT WAIT WAIT out loud to no one (well, to missy)

difficult listening hour, Monday, 20 October 2014 18:32 (two years ago) Permalink

"Rattle my bones over the stones/I'm only a beggarman, nobody owns".
This folk song or nursery rhyme appears in Ulysses, and caught the attention of this Smiths fan who read it back in the day.
I once pointed this out to Pete Shelley when I forced him into conversation at a gig. He just quoted Eliot at me and made a swift exit: "Mediocre artists borrow, great artists steal."

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:44 (two years ago) Permalink

The Go-Betweens "Karen"
Helps me find Hemingway
Helps me find Genet
Helps me find Brecht
Helps me find Chandler
Helps me find James Joyce
She always makes the right choice

Trip Maker, Monday, 20 October 2014 20:55 (two years ago) Permalink

Missy line is referencing "Michael Finnegan" nursery rhyme which isn't the same song that FW gets its title from, tho i'm sure it's in the book somewehre.

got a feeling the "rattle my bones" bit in Ulysses is a memory of a nursery rhyme too so Morrissey cd be quoting the source

Chimp Arsons, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:34 (two years ago) Permalink

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=VhwFAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA200&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

k the internet has some uses

Chimp Arsons, Monday, 20 October 2014 21:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Molly Bloom's soliloquy is also the finale of Firesign Theater's "How Can You Be In Two Places At Once..."

Deliciously hard yet very accessible (Dan Peterson), Monday, 20 October 2014 22:06 (two years ago) Permalink

3rd Bass - "Portrait of the Artist As A Hood"

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 October 2014 23:32 (two years ago) Permalink


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