Fleetwood Mac – Mirage, C/D?

Doesn't play well with others.

Actually, I had no idea he had a hand in the second Dream Academy album, getting production/writing credits on these two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiJUKZSS9Ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cKK5JTyukE

Surely the outsider's Fleetwood Mac record is Kiln House. Or Penguin? Or...Behind the Mask?

Yeah for such a huge band, they certainly have a lot of forgotten/lost albums. There are still five or six I've never heard and I consider myself a big fan.

Mirage is excellent though.

That clip upthread of the demo for "Hold Me" is a brilliant illustration of Buckingham's genius for producing,

One of my favorite little details on this song is the guitar solo -- the lead guitar starts by holding one high note that decays fairly quickly, so it seems as if the muted, arpeggiated guitar figure is the solo, until the lead guitar comes back in a couple of bars in. Then at the end both of those guitars are joined by these amazingly lush 12-string strums. And yet none of them overwhelms the others and they're all perfectly balanced.

Good review in Uncut:

http://www.uncut.co.uk/reviews/album/fleetwood-mac-mirage

Delayed till September, it looks like.

It's September!

Supposed to come out yesterday.

never take your love away

it's out!

this is obvious i guess but this album sounds exquisite

i a/b'd it with the original cd and wow the remaster is kinda incredible

My review of the reissue.

thanks for that!

this is a pretty revelatory remaster, it really brought the music forth and made it shine without overdoing it. Wonder if they'll do the same to Tango in the Night (which doesn't quite measure up)

wow, does indeed seem impressive at first listen

I didn't know a remaster was planned. good surprise !
Such a great album.
it seems the public liked it but not the critics.
I think it's my favourite FM album (with Tusk close behind).

It wasn't disliked by critics, just accepted as "ho-hum, more Mac."

The original Rolling Stone review: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/mirage-19820816

Nice, thanks !
yeah, the stars# doesn't really reflect the article's very light approach on the album.

I am hearing so many new things in this remaster it's almost as if it's been remixed.

yeah this sounds really really good. there are little palm-mute arpeggios in "hold me" that i've NEVER heard before.

Tempting. Already last year's Tusk remaster was revelatory

now had the chance to do a bit of a/b'ing - my old vinyl copy does sound more or less the same... digital remaster a bit... tighter.. perhaps better

but hearing the same details

It's essentially the same but louder. Mirage, indeed.

thanks for that!

― sleeve, Sunday, September 25, 2016

thank you!

Nearing the end of side b of this remaster. Things that stand out---

The many instances of recessed wordless backing harmonies sound more richly colored, like they're oils now instead of watercolors.

This record is so thickly populated with things that click and scrape! Every song has cluckings tappings thumpings most of which are coming from Lindsay's guitar and the attacks of all these little percussive sounds are so clear and palpable, like the abovementioned muted arpeggios on hold me: listen to that pick!

The worlds meekest one note organ sitting in the back of the room on only over you <3

remaster or no, how fantastic is "Gypsy"

how come Stevie's solo demo isn't on this thing

Buckingham heard about ILM's preference for Grimes' "Realiti" demo iirc

if someone had told me Oh Diane was Suicide i'd have believed them. it's a *total* Vega rip! he must have been a fan, i recall he liked his punk-y stuff?

you must think the Grease soundtrack also sounds like Suicide

lol

oh diane is a definite lowlight

gtfo

such an underrated album. also crucial eccojam sample material:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN0czUMRMU8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukb_scv1Ao

The remaster does sound great !
also, after listening to this album again I realize there's only one song I don't like much : "Straight Back".
And I don't hate it. It's just meh but I can play the whole album without being bothered by that song.
All the rest is good/great (I don't really get the hate for "Oh Diane").

yah I thought "Straight Back" was the consensus Worst Song, but even the remaster flatters it.

remaster or no, how fantastic is "Gypsy"

― niels, Monday, September 26, 2016 4:16 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god yes

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/christine-mcvie-on-making-fleetwood-macs-mirage-new-lp-w441626

But Lindsey and I, we have plenty of songs. There are tons more in the bag that we have yet to record. And they're fantastic.

uuugggghhhh can't wait to hear this new stuff. of course we always think in terms of Buckingham/Nicks but for my money there is nothing better in the world than when Buckingham gets a hold of a McVie song. and how long has it been? "Only Over You" continues to floor me. so weird, so perfect. that lonely one note organ as Jon mentioned upthread, the bg vocals in the pre-chorus! so good.

can't hear any stevie on that track, unless she's just pushed way back on some "ohhh ohhhhh"s, but while I was trying to find a live clip I found this instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0wRgTDv4Gg

re: the eccojam just upthread, jfc am I old. i'm only 31! and so, so old. vaporwave! wtf is that!

uuugggghhhh can't wait to hear this new stuff. of course we always think in terms of Buckingham/Nicks but for my money there is nothing better in the world than when Buckingham gets a hold of a McVie song. and how long has it been

otm

yeah and of course Buckingham and Nicks have some brilliant songs throughout FM's albums but I might consider Mc Vie songs as the most consistently interesting melodically/harmonically.

And here's Mick Fleetwood's interview.

"The fact that we're talking about it again is actually really cool," Fleetwood says of Mirage. "Because we ended up making a far better album than we gave ourselves credit for for many years."

Nice !
I was reading a MF interview earlier about their drugs issues and how he snorted alone something like 60 million$ worth of cocaine !

I love Oh Diane now. It conjures this certain feeling of weird 80s 50s stuff like John Waters and Twin Peaks.

Finally picked up the remaster. On first listen the biggest surprise to me is how gorgeous "Straight Back" turns out to be.

My rediscovery too.

Holy fuck is "That's Alright" a great song. They should've gone and made a straight-up 80s country album with that sound.

Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

Say You Will is the one I've been listening to the most recently, and I still think it's got some really strong stuff on it even though the record is more than a touch overlong and I miss McVie's songwriting and lead vocals (the opposite of Tango In The Night, where for me it didn't really matter that Nicks wasn't really "present" as McVie's and Buckingham's songs were so strong and Buckingham's production and arrangements were so OTM) - Anyway, I noticed on Say You Will that Buckingham and Nicks get 9 songs each, so since the album can be split so neatly into two I've found myself wondering how it would actually sound as a two disc set - one for each songwriter. Think I'll try that at some point.