The Blue Nile: C or D?

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The Scottish Talk Talk, or pretty pop for Christians who find Low too weird?

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

At least three great singles, albums full of filler, and the most shocking mid-performance weeping I've ever heard.

Colin Meeder, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I bought "A Walk Across the Rooftops" when it came out, and I've played it and enjoyed it many times. I never thought to buy the follow-up, "Hats", until a couple months ago. This must stand as the all-time longest I've waited to buy another record by any artist; what, 18 years? This is no reflection on the quality of "A Walk", however, it's really quite good. "Hats" is similar, but a bit more ingratiating, a bit more pop. I still haven't heard the third one, it's got an awful album cover. Still, I do recommend the first. The Talk Talk comparison isn't entirely out of line, but they write catchier melodies, and didn't get as experimental.

Sean, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

'A Walk Across the Rooftops' is one of the most perfectly realised debut records I can think of - twinkling, lush, melancholy and cinematic (some dream collaboration between Bill Forsyth and Leo Carax). The title song in particular suggested a pop that could be 'adult' but effervescent. 'Easter Parade', a sketch of a song that Sinatra might have appreciated, was on every compilation tape I made for ten years. Wonderful.

'Hats' consolidated the debut, practically down to the track listing, but suffered from having Phil Collins' recommendation stickered to the front. 'Saturday night' was an epic transfiguration of the commonplace, a pop Les Parapluis du Cherbourg, and the kind of song Brett Anderson would like to write in his Scott Walker moments if a) he had clue and b) a few thousand years in which to try.

The last lp - Peace at last? - is very disappointing. The cinemascope sheen was replaced with acoustic guitars, the singing had all gone a bit Michael Bolton, and yes the sleeve was terrible. Maybe this is what happens when you go out with Rosanna Arquette. It seemed to bear out all those who'd had them pegged as some MOR monstrosity, a Dire Straits in waiting. A couple of songs - 'Family Life', 'Tomorrow Morning' - might be worth downloading, but the rest of it is a bit bleh.

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I actually like that third album, but then again I don't really rate the first two albums on such a purely evocative/epic level as y'all are doing. They are pretty damn good, though, it's just that my sympathies would still come down with Talk Talk in the end. ;-)

My favorite performance by Mr. Wossname who is the singer is actually his turn on the version of "Let's Go Out Tonight" -- I think that's the song -- on Craig Armstrong's first album.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

As I've said before, my aunt used to date Paul Joseph Moore. But I know little of the band. We used to have all these free Blue Nile cassettes laying around the house, but as I was young I had little interest in listening.

Melissa W, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Talk Talk comparison is interesting. I can sort of see the connection, maybe in the softer moments of The Colour Of Spring, but in most ways they are totally distinct except for their basic mood. I think this comparison must be the result of trying to find one for The Blue Nile and failing to come up with anything that would actually recommend purchase - they really are like an oasis in a desert of MOR-eighties pop.

Recommendations... A Walk Across The Rooftops has "Tinseltown In The Rain" which is one of my favourite love songs ever, but Hats is the better album, with about five perfect songs on it. Amazing how similar they are though, despite the six-year gap (there's your big difference to Talk Talk - these guys stumbled upon a vision of perfection early on and stuck with it).

Tim, Thursday, 17 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

excellent - the talk talk comparison is spot on - i loved 'a walk' more than 'hats'. The Linn drums and that bass were a big influence. They epitomize that '80s pristine quality - the 'clean lines' i'm always banging on about.

, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Clasic. The song's are almost uncoverable as the lyrics are so unaffected that in anyone else they would sound gauche. Do I love you. YES, I love you

Edna's summary is bang OTM. Let's go out tonight is just desperately affecting, you know this relationship is doomed with just the clutter and routine holding it together.

I don't know about stumbling on perfection, I believe they scrapped 3 years of work before starting on Hats properly. Anyway they stumbled out of perfection on the lasr album.

Ned, the Craig Armstrong album is fab also for having one of Liz Frazers few decent performances in the 90's. Liz Frazer working with the Blue Nile now that's an idea...

Billy Dods, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

What Edna and Billy said. I love Hats. Never bothered with the last album.

Dr. C, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Billy - the 'stumbling' part refers to the beginning of their career. I get the feeling that Hats took so long because it was so hard to exactly replicate A Walk... and at the same time improve on it. (in this case second album syndrome = not "same but different" but "same but better").

Tim, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

the blue nile? isnt that a river in egypt? what that got to do with music. i saw michael palin go down it on pole to pole on at chrismas so maybe you should start i love michael palin thread. but i wouldnt be interested because michael palin a ponce.

XStatic Peace, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

first album is all about the first flush of youth/love/innocence/awe/wonder/etc. eg - 'i am in loooove, i am in loooove with you, ...i walk across the rooftops...' etc etc.

the second is all concerned with the death of love/getting older/etc. eg - 'i'm tired of crying on the staiiiirs...'

it's kind of a godfather/godfather part 2 deal. and all they're bestheard back to back

piscesboy, Friday, 18 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Blue Line is just such an underrated band. I find their "Hats" al bum is one of the best pop records of all time - and also a godfather for the sound of pioneer "post-rock" bands like Disco Inferno and, very specially, Bark Psychosis: angst-ridden vocals hanging on a spacious soundscape with electronica drumbeats and ambient samples. Definitely, The Blue Nile are A+.

Juan M., Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I didn't realise Pet Shop Boys were post-rock.

(okay truthfully I can see the connection at least with Bark Psychosis, but it always seemed to me that The Blue Nile represented the "other half" of BP's source material). Hats multiplied by Spirit Of Eden = Hex.

Tim, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Boring annoying bullshit. "Hats" is absolutely unlistenable. Especially the singer's voice let's me run up the walls. I guess a kick in the ass would do him well. This does not even qualify for wallpaper music. The only band which is as embarrassing is Sigur Ros.

alex in mainhattan, Monday, 21 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

there was a program on tv the other night that had a drum&bass version of Tinseltown in the Rain as the theme. Such a great band, so many bad ideas. Walk Across the Rooftops is fantastic though.

hamish, Wednesday, 23 January 2002 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
Simply the most amazing music ever made.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

The third album really is worth the effort, what puts me off listening to it though is all the Christian stuff. Ultimately it is a back-to-the-roots acoustic album with very conservative lyrics all about home, family and church, but contains some moments of raw ecstacy, ie;Tomorrow Morning, Sentimental Man and Soon. As for Michael Bolton, the very first time I listened to 'Over the Hillside' I thought I'd picked up a Richard Marx album by mistake, but despite their MOR tendencies they have produced some really transcendent music.

Gatinha (rwillmsen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic. Particularly their two 80s albums.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 11:09 (nineteen years ago) link


one) You won’t like them. A Walk Across The Rooftops contains slap bass, trite lyrics on the debris of relationships, pans from (yawn) Coppola’s One From the Heart into (yawn) Paris, Texas, sung by Springsteen impersonating Sinatra. Hats has two white reggae tracks, gated snares, repeated use of the word ‘baby’, yes, is ‘lush’, ‘cinematic’ and MOR. Annie Lennox and Rod Stewart have covered their songs. Phil Collins endorses them.

two) I don’t like American Music Club, John Cale, Talking Heads, Rickie Lee Jones or The Cars either.

three) Men in American books tend to wear hats.

four) Katy (my girlfriend) was in a philosophy class and, as the hush of young students began to stifle and choke, the teacher, by way of gesture, mentioned the best class he ever had occurred when Paul Buchanan, ‘you probably haven’t heard of him’, suggested they talk about love.

five) No-one has registered the scientific unproveability of ‘love’ in song more heart-rendingly than Paul Buchanan: singing “how do I know you feel it?”, just moments from loss, or the frustrated ‘I can only tell you’ of “do I love you? YES I love you!”

six) What do you say when three years into a relationship the only things holding you together is the fear of breaking the ties you’ve built in the outside world as a unit? When an offer of tea is the only lull in the silence? “Let’s go out tonight”, one last time, meet up with the ghost of your happiness, it can be the same again, you will dance, for one night, oh to bed the same different woman every night, and leave the relationship strafed with cigarette burns and headaches in, alone.

seven) Such compassionate pop. During Hats, the band’s lives were fragmenting and none of them felt they had any support around them, it would have been so easy to become insular and dismissive of others in such a situation.

eight) Below a peat sky, her hair is scraped through with coral orange and tickles of grey, and a smell of moist pollen sewn into the webs of her fingers. Scotland’s inability to say Carl strains a last laugh out from her, smoke knuckles through our hair, as the aftertaste of other men places her lips and her eyes’ slow moulder.

nine) You will like them. A Walk Across the Rooftops is a deeply emotional water, Buchanan a child lost in the weave of a Frank O’Hara poem. Hats refuses Don Paterson’s cycnicism of romance and insists on the transcendental of the ordinary and of the journey, the pressure difference.

!) I think romanticism suggests this sense of wilfully not having it all, leaving that one bit back, the whole, the mysterious ‘last’ that can never be reached, romanticism is the journey to try and attain that that you’re purposefully denying yourself. I have never listened to their third record, I most probably never will.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Nice one, Coz!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

By the way: one of the things that justifies file-sharing for all time is that I was finally able to get hold of a copy of their first (?) ever song 'I love this life'. And it's turned out to be my favourite song of theirs.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Cozen! Yes!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Cozen that was just lovely, thank you.

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

nice one. it reminds me of pinefox's post on the joyce thread.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

(Haha, Julio, that's where I nicked my structure, but I guess it was alright cos I think he nicked the turn from the X Y Zedd post on the 'What if Punk Never Happened?' thread).

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Daniel Bedingfield is as close as modern pop gets to The Blue Nile. I get the feeling that he's a stubborn perfectionist too, answering only to his standards, steeped in integrity and honesty. Imagine if he took 5 years to write and record his follow up. It'd be amazing.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

''Imagine if he took 5 years to write and record his follow up. It'd be amazing.''

or it could be a disaster too i suppose.

''(Haha, Julio, that's where I nicked my structure, but I guess it was alright cos I think he nicked the turn from the X Y Zedd post on the 'What if Punk Never Happened?' thread).''

I just thought i had seen something like that. but yr post is triffic in its own way.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

(Aw shucks, thanks you guys! Actually, I realised today that every thing I've ever written has, in some way, been to make someone fall in love with me or notice me and that post was specifically written to make Dr C notice me (and to make him happy, too) after I'd written my little heart into All of My Heart last week without him popping up; it was also written as an accompinament (god, spelling) to a Blue Nile 'best of...' I'm making up for a friend.)

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 25 March 2003 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

"I think Daniel Bedingfield is as close as modern pop gets to The Blue Nile."

Yes! "If You're Not The One" works in exactly the same way as the peerless "Tinseltown In The Rain" ie. a "generic" love song rendered strange and fascinating by the force and peculiarity of its emotional over-investment.

Although Cozen you should really check out that there new Coloma album which is almost self-consciously an update of The Blue Nile for the post-glitch generation. As with The Blue Nile it's svelte literary studio-pop that feels like all the sound-politics have been surgically removed (eg. this is click-pop only because, well, why not if it sounds good? cf. Schneider TM's "The Light 3000") so I imagine that in a decade or so it'll have that same lovely timeless-datedness as TBN's first two albums have. It's very much like A Walk Across The Rooftops in particular. Much better than their first album.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

did you realise that daniel bedingfield is a born again christian?

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

He was born somewhere really (relatively) 'weird', like Hawaii or something. I can't remember, I'll look it out.

Cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

he has a high speaking voice.

I saw him on 'today with des & mel'.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 March 2003 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Yesterday I bought Rooftops for a dollar! :-)

Keith McD (Keith McD), Thursday, 27 March 2003 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I've jotted down some more thoughts on The Blue Nile and Coloma at Skykicking.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 04:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Think you meant Skykicking.

hamish (hamish), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Just listened to A Walk Across the Rooftops today for the first time in a long while. Really sounds distinctly uneighties in the end, doesn't it. The Talk Talk comparisons now finally do make sense.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 04:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Record Review of the Year, Tim. Just beautiful. Better than my Morgenstern one (did you my last e-mail?) by a good country mile, and there was me really happy with it and you show everyone how it's really done. Rat bastard. ;)

I figured out why I like Daniel Bedingfield earlier. Or one aspect. I remembered something Frank Kogan said to me about how he really liked the way that I wasn't scared to be overwrought when the usual rock-crit approach is to come across all Ed Casual (hehe, what's Frank's e-mail address again?). I suppose I see a lot of myself in Daniel. All thing considered, a juxtaposition of poets might be in order:

Everywhere he saw his own image, -
his perfect face...

When he rode out of the city, the people
gathered to admire him: a ribbon
of faces, fixed on this one face
and haunted by its indifference. They said:
'as beautiful as a painting', and we
feel a chill cast across these years
for we know there is another painting
that does not hang in any gallery

- John Ash

I like you so much I'm acting stupid
I can't play the game I'm all intense and alive
I'm losing control of my heart
I'm not supposed to be this nervous
I should play my hand all cool and calm
I can't breathe
I'm losing control of my heart

- Daniel Bedingfield

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Finney I mean Finery is indeed EXCELLENT.

Andy K (Andy K), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Sadly, I probably won't be able to get it here in Glasgow. And I'm internet-shopping averse. If I get it, I'll make a copy and give it to Paul Buchanan, I see him quite often, coming out of the local Safeways.

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

("I can't breathe"!!!)

Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 8 April 2003 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I was thinking about why "Peace at Last" never appealed to me, and I reckon it's because it cuts the (admittedly tenuous) connection with disco. I love every single moment of "Tinseltown In The Rain", but the point where it really blows me away is the final string-riff loops where the disco beat suddenly gets more pronounced, and the whole song takes on this aura of bittersweet triumph. I could well imagine the song being the inspiration for Luomo's "The Present Lover". Actually Luomo could do a lot with a remix of The Blue Nile.

I was trying to think of more music from the eighties that fits into this area of explicitly emotional quasi-dance pop, but I couldn't get far beyond The Hounds of Love. Any ideas?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 10 April 2003 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I have Hats, and that's definitely a Classic.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 10 April 2003 01:09 (nineteen years ago) link

was trying to think of more music from the eighties that fits into this area of explicitly emotional quasi-dance pop, but I couldn't get far beyond The Hounds of Love. Any ideas?

Associates surely fit this description.

But Tim is OTM regarding Tinseltown being a lost dance classic, I certainly remember hearing it in clubs in Dundee in the mid-80's. Apparently they had some of their work from Hats remixed by Oakenfold (or some other name remixer), but they nixed it on hearing it. Now that I'd like to hear.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 10 April 2003 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link

My other half was Paul's telephone answering service[flatmate]all through the writing and release of the first record.He says there was definately a whole bunch of up and happy songs right after rooftops.I met Paul once and he can do charm.Happy Easter everybody.

jean bowman, Sunday, 20 April 2003 09:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Happy Easter Jean.

Where did the up and happy songs go, then? Left to rot as demos?

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 20 April 2003 10:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Ta for the greetings. Re demos there must be millyens of them . If you see Paul ask him. I hear that Heatwave had five minutes of birds and boats before the music and even that was cut down from a long session outdoors. Regards to the West End, it must be great this time of year.

jean bowman, Sunday, 20 April 2003 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It is, it's lovely.

I don't think I'd have the bare-faced gall to actually talk to the man though.

It feels a bit criminal to actually listen to the Blue Nile at this time of year though, like I'm going to shatter the mood.

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 20 April 2003 19:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Interesting thread.

1. The only track I know is 'I Love This Life', which the Nipper gave me. The Nipper is right about it.

2. Cozen's big post above is indeed good, and indeed structurally resembles one of mine. But no, I didn't take my own structure from anyone else.

3. Whether or not the Bedingfield link is apt, I don't think 'emotional overinvolvement' etc is necessarily the key to 'If You're Not The One': what woke me up to that track was simply the rare quality of its tune.

the pinefox, Monday, 21 April 2003 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link

that's "heatwave" but "stay close" is up there

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 15 June 2020 17:04 (two years ago) link

I was delighted by “I” on first listen.

michaellambert, Monday, 15 June 2020 17:17 (two years ago) link

I’m just sitting here listening to “here come the bluebirds” and trying to keep it together

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:07 (two years ago) link

wow @ "big town". love these!

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 03:37 (two years ago) link

^^^^ that song and the two remixes of album tracks seem to pick on a specific vibe of steve reich disco that they otherwise never really revisited after "Rags to Riches", and I'm loving this unexpected gift.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 05:32 (two years ago) link

Mail delivered. Listening to disc 2 now. "Here Comes the Bluebirds" is beautiful. Reminds me of PAL's b-sides, "O Lolita", "Wish Me Well" and "New York Man".

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 14:46 (two years ago) link

I'm really appreciating this reissue, it's made me reconnect with High which, if you asked me right now, I'd say is my second favorite after Hats; plus, these new songs are amazing, particularly Wasted (is that new? or was it a b-side I'd just never heard?). I've ordered the vinyl but I wish they'd pull together the bonus tracks from all of these and put that out by itself.

akm, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:31 (two years ago) link

that remix of Days of Our Lives turns it into a Security-era Peter Gabriel track

akm, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:32 (two years ago) link

I’m struggling to find antecedents for “bluebirds” and, especially, “i”, parts of which almost seem closer to 70s singer-songwriter stuff than anything they’ve done. other parts remind me a little of “christmas” and “from a late night train”

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:21 (two years ago) link

Thank you for turning me into 'It's Immaterial'! It's a shame the Song album is not in Spotify. This is probably the closest thing I've heard to the Blue Nile. Not as elegant and missing some of the great synth work but still pretty close.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:46 (two years ago) link

It might be recency bias but I'd even say this 'Song' album is better than any Blue Nile album that is not Hats..

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 17:48 (two years ago) link

that meme format where you post one smiling image and one frowny image:

"new" unreleased blue nile songs - smile
high era - frown

Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 20:53 (two years ago) link

shit I gotta get my act together and hear this

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 20:58 (two years ago) link

xpost: nothing wrong with high era!!!

akm, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 21:08 (two years ago) link

also, looks like I slept too long on getting Peace at Last on vinyl since it's sold out everywhere and the few copies I can find are over $100. guess I can live without it.

akm, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 21:45 (two years ago) link

pretty curious to me that “here come the bluebirds” couldn’t find a place on high, seems like a pretty perfect bridge between that record and mid air. a really fitting closer

“i” I sort of get how it doesn’t really fit, parts of it are very hats (the other one it reminds me of is “saturday night”) and the retrain is much more later-period. I’m still on the fence about whether the song really holds together — it’s bursting with really affecting moments and motifs but I just feel like it switches up a little too much to be as effective as it could be

“big town”, as tim says, is straight out of a walk across the rooftops. (tim is always right about the blue nile)

k3vin k., Tuesday, 16 June 2020 22:31 (two years ago) link

dammit you guys i have zero money to spend on recreational stuff right now and you all just keep talking this stuff up.

off to start a new thread: THE BLUE NILE RULES

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 00:47 (two years ago) link

I’m just sitting here listening to “here come the bluebirds” and trying to keep it together

― k3vin k., Tuesday, June 16, 2020 5:07 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink


'I' and 'Bluebirds' are plain amazing imo. What a gift.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 12:01 (two years ago) link

i haven't gotten to the new tracks yet but man, high sure is a great album

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:08 (two years ago) link

i love how propulsive "broken loves" and "she saw the world" are, it felt new for them

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 15:09 (two years ago) link

yeah those are a couple of my faves. the propulsive-ness of “she saw the world” kind of anticipates “buy a motor car”

k3vin k., Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:46 (two years ago) link

i can’t believe i have “new” blue nile music to enjoy nor can i believe it’s so good. “i” just knocked me flat today

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:31 (two years ago) link

yeah I just want to retract all my reservations about “i”

k3vin k., Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:55 (two years ago) link

Just got the vinyl reissue of High in the mail. It sounds fantastic. The title track still kills me.

kitchen person, Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:26 (two years ago) link

also thanks to all of this I just discovered the track Paul Buchanan wrote on Jesse Ware's Glasshouse, Last of the True Believers, which is wonderful, but I really wish he was 'featured' on more than one line repeated twice in the last 30 seconds. I guess he cowrote it though and it sounds like it.

akm, Friday, 19 June 2020 17:36 (two years ago) link

lol that would contradict the credits i was given when i reviewed the record but then again there were a lot of holes in those credits

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 19 June 2020 17:51 (two years ago) link

It might be recency bias but I'd even say this 'Song' album is better than any Blue Nile album that is not Hats..

Sorry, who's this by?

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Friday, 19 June 2020 18:11 (two years ago) link

Ah right, thanks. I remember that one hit single they had in 1986. Slightly strange but really good.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Saturday, 20 June 2020 09:03 (two years ago) link

ok well I'm not positive he cowrote it, but in an interview i found she said she wrote it with him:

"Track 11. "Last Of The True Believers" featuring Paul Buchanan

"I wrote after my first record and it was a song that I wrote this with this amazing guy called Paul Buchanan, who is from this cult band of the 80's called The Blue Nile. They're a Scottish band. I managed to get in the studio with him, and we wrote this song, and it was in demo form, and I loved it.

I started to play it when I was doing my American tour because I toured the Devotion record so much, and my last ever tour was in the States. It was a six-week tour. It was amazing, one of my favorite times, and I never do encores, because I think they're annoying, but I did do an encore and so I had to backtrack on what I'd said. I don't think we went off stage though, because I think that's naff. We started doing this, and it's nothing. I've never done that before. We had a demo. We didn't do it how the demo is and we kind of learned it, and I felt like I was in a real band. I didn't feel like I was dictated by the album track. It was just this idea, and people really liked it. Pitchfork put it up. It became this thing that was on the Internet, and people asked me, 'Are you gonna put it on your second record?' I didn't, and it didn't make sense to put it on the second record.

My sister reminded me of this song, because she adored it, so I got my friends (and) they're in a band called The Maccabees, who are really good friends of mine from school. They're massive fans of The Blue Nile. I asked Hugo if he'd like to produce it, and he did, and he brought it to life. He brought it back to life, and I'm really, really happy that it made it onto this record. It fits this record so much more than the second record."

so this doesn't mention that he sang on it, so maybe he didn't? It kind of doesn't sound like his voice.

akm, Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:30 (two years ago) link

he def sings on it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:31 (two years ago) link

but i'll take jessie's word for it! again the credits for that album were a mess

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:31 (two years ago) link

Paul does sing on the track, but not as much as I expected based on having a feat. credit.

michaellambert, Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:42 (two years ago) link

Does anybody know the story of "Young Club"? It haunts me. From the sound of it, I would take it to be post-'Hats' but pre-'High,' but really don't know, and kind find anything about it. But it's just so, so, so fucking good:

Soundslike, Saturday, 20 June 2020 16:14 (two years ago) link

Another post of it, sounds slightly differently sourced?

Soundslike, Saturday, 20 June 2020 16:15 (two years ago) link

'Young Club' is indeed a track from the Hats sessions. It's on the B-sides and Rare CDr

Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 20 June 2020 16:32 (two years ago) link

Damn, wish it had been included in complete/quality form with the 'Hats' deluxe, then...

Soundslike, Saturday, 20 June 2020 22:15 (two years ago) link

still getting knocked out by "i" on a daily basis

k3vin k., Wednesday, 1 July 2020 01:00 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Do I remember right that there is a collection of b-sides and whatnot that has not been rounded up on these reissues? Anybody got a link? I fell in love with this band due to seeing this thread repeatedly bumped for a while and I'm trying to hunt down everything I can.

It's weird that Peace At Last Deluxe is the CD that is hardest to find. I thought that was the one that was less loved?

Cow_Art, Monday, 12 October 2020 01:54 (one year ago) link

not sure if this has been posted in another thread on here, but even if so deserves a repost - fantastic quality live show

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:46 (one year ago) link

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:47 (one year ago) link

Beautiful and melancholy short film of Paul talking about Tinseltown in the Rain.

that's not my post, Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:01 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

@KenSweeney, were you aware this track was re-mixed/re-released for download last month? You're usually my first source for anything The Blue Nile related!

— Brad (@ballskwok) August 27, 2021

k3vin k., Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:42 (eleven months ago) link


Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:57 (eleven months ago) link

absolutely lush.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:58 (eleven months ago) link

ten months pass...

PJ Moore and Co, eight track new album coming soon. Herald article here.

First track, "Need to Believe", available for download, along w/ album pre-order, at PJ Moore's site.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:05 (one month ago) link

ooh good find!

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:05 (one month ago) link

There's obvs a hefty wodge of a-Ha in there too, but am I alone in hearing the Blue Nile's 'I Love this Life' in Harry Styles' 'As It Was'?

Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 9 July 2022 12:42 (one month ago) link

little piece in Tribune

Forty years ago, Glasgow band The Blue Nile released their first single. Their work was rooted in Glasgow itself, and the changes wrought by the shock of Thatcherism.

— Tribune (@tribunemagazine) July 16, 2022

nxd, Sunday, 17 July 2022 15:24 (three weeks ago) link

good piece and the live recording linked is immense

ufo, Monday, 18 July 2022 04:01 (three weeks ago) link

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