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What is T.I. full real name?

Britany Washington, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link

AMG sez: Clifford Harris. originally TIP, had to change it to TI on accounta Q-Tip, I think.

I wish his new record was as good as the last one.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link

me too.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

you guys are nuts, its great!

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link

"don't be a groupie keep it movin shawty"

Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Less consistent, highs are higher. I think i listen to it more often.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

(it's great)

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I won't claim to have heard a lot of his shit but the lyrics on his singles - especially U Don't Know Me - are so dumb. And his accent is really irritating. And he always has this little wise-ass smirk on his face in his videos. He just gets under my skin. He started calling himself "king of the south"?? Thats a joke. I love a lot of hip-hop and I can usually find SOMETHING nice to say about almost any rapper too but..

OK I'm ready..

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

The following were my various ideas on how i should answer.

1. He probably thinks your accent is irritating.

2. OK, what rappers do you like?

3. What about his lyrics is "dumb"? Thats not much of a meaningful criticism wout elaboration.

4. What til you hear Mike Jones.
4a. If he says "who's mike jones," lolololol

5. all of the above

(I chose 5)

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

What are the best songs on the new one then? The one with the Jay sample is pretty bland to these ears. "U Don't Know Me" is better, but I don't like it half as much as "Doin My Job", "I Can't Quit", "Be Easy", etc. What are the best album cuts off Urban Legend?

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:00 (fourteen years ago) link

If I were playing a party or something, the first thing i'd play other than the singles would be "What They Do" w BG which is great. I also love "ASAP" and "Chillin' With My Bitch" and the last track is heartrending.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Djdee, seriously, I've seen you post here. I respect your knowledge of hip-hop. I think you are more open-minded than most people here actually. Believe it or not, I don't like hating on artists either, so if you'll tell me something that I might not find dumb I'll seriously give it a chance. But I'll still think the lyrics in U Don't Know Me are just silly. And to me he's biting Juvenile's style on that song.

And those cocky-ass little faces he always makes just piss me off. Sorry, I'm going off again..

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:17 (fourteen years ago) link

The lyrics to U Don't Know Me are pretty basic mainstream rap lyrics these days I think. He has a little twist to them that goes along with the accent, but I mean, nothing too amazing. But listen to his verse on "Neva Scared", which is wicked and convoluted, or the entireity of "Doin My Job", which is posed with more precision and delicacy than you often see, even from the subtlest MCs.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

And I mean, lyrics aren't his strong point or anything.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh dont take me too seriously i'm not trying to be a jerk or anything, i just thought the accent comment was funny. But I think he sounds a lot different than Juvie, who's voice is a lot more rough and he swallows words and spits them out. TI is much smoother and more precise, slurred rather than growled. And lyrically they're pretty diff too, juvie more impressionistic and T.I. more specific. Thats a really bad summation of their lyrical differences but i'm feeling lazy.

xp i think his lyrics are great!

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Trap Muzik is way better, but Urban legend is his Life After Death/ Hard Knock Life-type relaxed party album, and it succeeds on that level. Countdown is great, even though it's just Rubberband Man again.

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link

What are you looking for lyrically that he doesn't deliver on?

His lyrics seem a perfect fit for his persona, tough, scrawny, clever, suave, good-looking, scrappy.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I wonder if the reason Lil Scrappy hasn't blown up any more is because he's almost too much like T.I. (although not as good, obv)

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Well I gotta hand it to you. You really said all that pretty damn well. Like I said, I haven't heard a lot of his stuff. I just hear U Don't Know Me 20 times a day. And I just think the lyrics seem really obvious. Just like "hey this rhymes and sounds cool". I guess doing a (seemingly) dumbed-down song for single's sake bothers me.

And as far as comparing him to Juvie, I was just referring to the way he did those songs back in the day where he repeated a particular catch phrase at the end of each line - U Understand??

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 31 March 2005 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

ah gotcha yeah lots of MCs do that tho! It doesnt strike me as much of a gimmick or anything, but i can see how it could grate though.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:00 (fourteen years ago) link

If I were playing a party or something, the first thing i'd play other than the singles would be "What They Do" w BG which is great. I also love "ASAP" and "Chillin' With My Bitch" and the last track is heartrending.

-- djdee (ddrak...), March 31st, 2005.

"ASAP" is the next single! I think it's an odd choice but it's starting to grow on me. "Prayin' For Help" is my personal favorite.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Ooh yeah that one's great too! I'm glad he's not using the obvious tracks as singles, like the ones with nelly and pharell. Those are serious low-points i think.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link

The Slim Thug track ("3 Kings") he guests on with Bun B is fantastic.

Matt Chesnut (Matt Chesnut), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah...it was definitely kind of a surprise and a relief when he picked "U Don't Know Me" as an official single. almost none of the tracks with big features are even decent on a radio fodder level, esp. the Lil Kim and Neptunes ones.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Bun-B owned 3 kings for the "curvy like a cello" line.

djdee (djdee2005), Thursday, 31 March 2005 03:28 (fourteen years ago) link

nah ti kills bun b on "three kings", even though him sucking up to houston is kind of suspect, it's just the way he kind of lopes around the beat all like "yeah i'm bigging up houston rappers but i'm not really THAT bothered", like he knows atlanta is bigger & better than houston. johnny badlees, you need to check out the song "ti vs tip", lyrically it's the reason alot of people got excited by ti in the first place. the latest cd was awful though.

scg, Thursday, 31 March 2005 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Dope TI album review saying why it's great:

http://oldboyentertainment.blogspot.com/2005/02/ti-urban-legendludacris-red-light.html

Free Pimp C, Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

'4. What til you hear Mike Jones.
4a. If he says "who's mike jones," lolololol

'

hahahaslk

Cabaret Voltron (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i like urban legend, i just don't love it like urban legend, seriously an every-day album for me and maybe my favourite album of last year or the year before, whichever year it came out

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 31 March 2005 22:20 (fourteen years ago) link

the sad thing about the neptunes song is that the rap is great. how many more songs must pharrell ruin?

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 31 March 2005 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Just keep Pharrell out of Houston and i have no problem with him.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

keep Pharrell on the planet Neptune so he can stop ruining all of Earth's songs.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link

haha dont you like the drop it like its hot remix tho?

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:30 (fourteen years ago) link

man...I remember back when the Neptunes first came out with the Triton presets and people would joke that they were using Casio presets...but on that remix they actually ARE using Casio presets. I have those drum sounds on my keyboard! I mean it's an ok record but jeez!

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I think the reason it works so well is its so unexpectedly minimal, not in terms of the sparseness like the first one (and if anything, the textures are a lot more smudged and drippy than the original) but in terms of the smallness of the drums and bells and its lack of banging-ness.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:45 (fourteen years ago) link

less is more and alla that, like you expect it to bang and it doesnt which somehow seems more surprising/shocking.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I get what you're saying but I would like to point out that you just described a Neptunes track as "unexpectedly minimal". that's like saying you touched a stove and it was unexpectedly hot.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:49 (fourteen years ago) link

that water sure came out of left field being so wet like that.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Usually they use huge drum sounds though! From "Superthug" to "Grindin" to "Beautiful" they've always had the big-ass drum sound. I dont think its an expected direction at all, the drums are so dinky and almost swizz-y (circa 99)

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the drop it like it's hot remix was a brief glimmer of hope. "chef boyar-p"!!

btw, U Don't Know didn't really strike me as that surprising for a debut single, ie 'one for the streets'?

the most mystifying thing about this thread is the guy complaining about TI's "wise-ass smirk", which is my favorite thing about him. I love watching him mug for the camera!! Lil Scrappy, who I like too, doesn't have any of TI's suaveness or cool charisma (though he does have charisma of a different sort).

Cabaret Voltron (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Friday, 1 April 2005 00:57 (fourteen years ago) link

well yeah, "U Don't Know Me" is a solid single. but it clearly wasn't planned as a proper a-side, since it was tacked onto the end of the "Bring Em Out" video, it was just a street single at the time but now it's the official single with its own video, which is a little bit surprising (in a good way).

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:11 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah good point, when I saw it at the end of the Bring Em Out video I thought it meant there wouldn't be a full video for it. glad I was wrong!! Bring Em Out kinda grates at this point, but UDKM still sounds pretty fresh.

Cabaret Voltron (PUNXSUTAWNEY PENIS), Friday, 1 April 2005 01:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Hm, I don't understand the Neps hate. Overexposure I guess. Anyway, the one on Urban Legend isn't very good, but it's not the worst song on the record, certainly.

Zed Szetlian (Finn MacCool), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

between Nelly and Lil Kim its got some hot competition.

djdee (djdee2005), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't mind the neptunes, i just wish pharrell wouldn't sing or rap or appear in videos. is that so much to ask?

Sym Sym (sym), Friday, 1 April 2005 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link

all I'm saying is that I can count on one hand the number of Neptunes beats from the past 2 years that I like as much as about 50 tracks they made before that. I don't really care if they never fell off for you, but for me they did.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

although to keep this on topic, the title track from T.I.'s first album, "I'm Serious", is one of my favorite Neptunes beats ever.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 1 April 2005 03:41 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

I finally got I'm Serious, which was the only one I didn't have. it definitely sounds dated but I'm surprised at how good it is (and surprised at how it didn't get more critical love). I mean it's obv. not an essential album and he clearly was rough around the edges at this point but you can see a lot of what he would evolve into later. the beats are pretty good too although the later ones are better.

michangelo wuz a party d00d (San Te), Thursday, 19 August 2010 19:53 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

this story is fucking amazing

Picture me ¯\(°_°)/¯ ing (symsymsym), Friday, 15 October 2010 06:14 (nine years ago) link

where you reading that? I read he was one of the shot and the fatality was his bodyguard

the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:13 (three years ago) link

Shit himself in the leg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:14 (three years ago) link

LOL shot

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 26 May 2016 22:14 (three years ago) link

the T.I. thread has like 50 posts #soilm

rip van wanko, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:31 (three years ago) link

there are 37 t.i. threads

Treeship, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:37 (three years ago) link

38 if you count this one

What you know about that?

Treeship, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:38 (three years ago) link

Yeah I just revived the first one I found. T.I. is an ILM all-star.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Friday, 27 May 2016 03:40 (three years ago) link

that's reassuring. what little i read of goon threads i never see him mentioned.

rip van wanko, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:43 (three years ago) link

well he's like 50 now

k3vin k., Friday, 27 May 2016 03:44 (three years ago) link

totally loved Da Nic EP

rip van wanko, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:45 (three years ago) link

he is 35 lol

Treeship, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:48 (three years ago) link

watching how scared the innocent bystanders are in this video really sucks:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/nyregion/rapper-troy-ave-is-arrested-in-fatal-shooting-at-ti-concert.html

alpine static, Friday, 27 May 2016 03:53 (three years ago) link

yeah it's a tragedy. fuck troy ave.

Treeship, Friday, 27 May 2016 04:16 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

you never ever want to be the reason "she's 18" is trending on Twitter.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:50 (two weeks ago) link

sick fuck bastard WTF

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 19:53 (two weeks ago) link

hard to be shocked these days buuuut

cryborg (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:21 (two weeks ago) link

how many parents do you think are like that?

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:24 (two weeks ago) link

too many

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:25 (two weeks ago) link

thinking about how he told the entire world about it too, i was horrified
the post-it with the appt on her birthdays?! truly beyond my comprehension and i hope she realizes sooner rather than later that she is an adult and that her dad is a monster. :( poor kid

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:32 (two weeks ago) link

so many layers of creepster and wrong. but he's always had fucked up views about women so not surprising.

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:34 (two weeks ago) link

for me there is a gulf between "is a dog" and being someone who is zealously monitoring his daughter's hymen AND talking to a number of media outlets about it

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:37 (two weeks ago) link

Uh can someone summarize whats goin on here

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:44 (two weeks ago) link

this is the link i had the misfortune to read
https://madamenoire.com/1111720/ti-daughter/

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

no

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

Xxpost He uh goes to the OBGYN with his daughter every year on her birthday to make sure she's still a virgin.

No this is not a joke post.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:46 (two weeks ago) link

don't worry though, his 15 yr old son gets to smash.

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:48 (two weeks ago) link

shit did not even think of that and i'm sure it's true

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

Wasn't there an ep of their reality show where they found out his son already lost his

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:53 (two weeks ago) link

i wasn't kidding. This is true. xpost

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 20:56 (two weeks ago) link

I had friends in high school whose dads did this

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:03 (two weeks ago) link

I liked Paper Trail but it was all downhill after there

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:07 (two weeks ago) link

sorry if we're gonna keep Turrican banned someone's gonna have to fill that role

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

lol dude i was about to say

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:14 (two weeks ago) link

how is this even legal?

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:17 (two weeks ago) link

minors do not have privacy rights when it comes to their parents in the US...?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:19 (two weeks ago) link

also in that link posted above it explicitly says that a waiver is signed by the daughter

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:20 (two weeks ago) link

Though i assume there's coercion involved.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:24 (two weeks ago) link

of course she did it's not like he can hold whatever financial support he provides over her head or anything

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

it's a "purity test" that has absolutely no health benefit which is why the WHO calls it a human rights abuse. I don't even think I ever even had a hymen.

Yerac, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:25 (two weeks ago) link

"she don't ride no horses doc cmon"

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:26 (two weeks ago) link

I first saw that "T.I." was trending on Twitter, then a handful of vague tweets referring to "hymen". Didn't imagine they would be disgustingly linked like this.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:28 (two weeks ago) link

minors do not have privacy rights when it comes to their parents in the US...?

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:19 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

also in that link posted above it explicitly says that a waiver is signed by the daughter

― Οὖτις, Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:20 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, so she has no privacy rights as a child and signs a waiver as an adult. but how are doctors allowed to do an inspection of a child's sexual organs, with no rationale related to health whatsoever?

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:31 (two weeks ago) link

So this is what T.I. meant when he said he was “wild as the taliban”

— Desus Nice (@desusnice) November 6, 2019

ت (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:28 (two weeks ago) link

always used to think that, other than the seven felonies, T.I. was more down to earth than the other south rappers. welp, guess not.

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:39 (two weeks ago) link

what an absolute psycho

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:43 (two weeks ago) link

I hear hew as on Alex Jones recently. lotta rappers like to go tehre tho

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:44 (two weeks ago) link

omg!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaWIxaQlXqg

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:45 (two weeks ago) link

tfw when someone gets cancelled but it reminds you they made some good music and you start jamming it

cryborg (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:51 (two weeks ago) link

between this and Kanye's MAGA chuddery/ Jesus bullshit all the southern baptists are going to have to reassess their opinions on "gangster rap"

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 7 November 2019 00:22 (one week ago) link


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