I've always thought that verse specifically to be so convoluted and awkward in syntax that I could never figure out why they never gave it another pass. But hey, it was a hit, so what do I know. Still:
The wild dogs cry out in the nightAs they grow restless, longing for some solitary companyI know that I must do what's rightAs sure as Kilimanjaro rises like Olympus above the SerengetiI seek to cure what's deep inside, frightened of this thing that I've become
That's as head-scratcher wacky as "We Built This City," or, hmm:
And now it's all right, it's okayAnd you may look the other wayWe can try to understandThe New York Times' effect on man
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 November 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
yeah kilimamjaro rising like another *much smaller* mountain has always been lol to me
olympus is like half the size!
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 November 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link
I thought it was riding like an empress but I like lepress much better
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 November 2016 15:23 (seven years ago) link
Olympus is, at least, a mountain that does in fact rise above its surrounding plain. As Kilimanjaro rises above its surrounding plain.
This is tangential because synth flute = classic.
― pumpkin spice was the Spice Girl who died suspiciously (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 November 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
Also a female leopard is a leopardess.
A lepress would be a female leper.
― pumpkin spice was the Spice Girl who died suspiciously (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 3 November 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link
I always thought it was "rises like an empress". Olympus sucks. Song ruined.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Thursday, 3 November 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link
Imagine a rising lepress, body parts corroded and raining down on the unfortunate residents of the Serengeti
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 November 2016 16:29 (seven years ago) link
Never really noticed the oxymoronic "solitary company."
Wish I could find a clip of Zoey Deschanel and Nelson Franklin singing "Africa" on New Girl as a campfire singalong from this season.
― and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 November 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link
https://sizemattersscience.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/mountains.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 3 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link
on top of everything that has been mentioned, I just realized that "above the Serengeti" is an ambiguous modifier
― Vinnie, Friday, 4 November 2016 03:23 (seven years ago) link
the phrasing to make it fit is hilarious
above the seeeeeerengetiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 November 2016 03:33 (seven years ago) link
sure as Kiliman-jair-oooooooo
― Neanderthal, Friday, 4 November 2016 04:31 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwJWPz1K-UY
― Neanderthal, Friday, 4 November 2016 04:33 (seven years ago) link
^hint, Affiance - starting the verse up an octave tends to diminish the impact of the chorus
― Neanderthal, Friday, 4 November 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link
I remember when were teens, we always thought the chorus was "I guess the rain's down in Africa", I guess because it sounds a lot more natural than "I bless the rains". But as pointed out, this song is hardly the Kilimanjaro of naturalistic lyrics...
― Tuomas, Friday, 4 November 2016 07:32 (seven years ago) link
The rain in African stays mainly in the plafrica
― pumpkin spice was the Spice Girl who died suspiciously (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 4 November 2016 12:32 (seven years ago) link
I hear "lepress" too. Right or wrong, I love the image of a sort of elegant female leper that it evokes.
I get to sing the chorus of this song in a cover band bc I'm the one who can sing high. It's fun to sing. I'd still like to know why it's "Gonna take some time to do the things we never HAD" the fuck?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
lol
― calstars, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link
Waiting for your Love (the track just before Africa on the LP?) is such a jam
― calstars, Monday, 14 August 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
Awful
― jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Monday, 14 August 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
The "Despacito" connection http://pca.st/episode/0949df36-895c-4af5-8254-b3c252f37581?t=1294
― sombrerodetuned (sombrerodetune), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link
The guy is missing that it's actually one of the most common pop progressions of all time, it's just that the third chord is what is usually the first chord. It's the Closing Time progression, aka When I Come Around progression.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 15 August 2017 02:10 (six years ago) link
Always been "lepress" for me too. Which works much better than Olympus
― the article don, Saturday, 19 August 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link
Africa is one of the few top hits of the 80's which I unashamedly love.
― dance cum rituals (Moka), Saturday, 19 August 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link
it reminds me of riding around in my parents' shitty Nova and I was always enamored with the synth sounds
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link
Maybe if I'd heard it at my age now I would say dud but I heard first as a tiny person and now it's part of the fabric of life so classsssic
― yesca, Saturday, 19 August 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link
"Rises like a Memphis." Either one, you know: Egypt or Tennessee. One Memphis.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
"Rosanna" > "Africa"
― Moodles, Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
Xxxpost you mean Olympus?
― Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
were Toto the least photogenic band of all time?
https://30daysout.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/toto-the-early-days.jpg
Great song tho (although yes, "Rosanna" is better)
― Number None, Saturday, 19 August 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
All but one of the guys in that photo looks like a Slightly Creepy Uncle from the 70s. Works at Radio Shack, or maybe is just a really good customer of Radio Shack. Lives in his parents' basement, but because it has a separate entrance he pretends it's kind of like an apartment. Drives an El Camino.
The exception is Blondo McWhitesuit (David Hungate?). He looks like an aspiring soap opera actor who is slightly too handsome to be a credible bartender.
― Tone-Locrian (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link
Rises like a Lepus
Yet another 70s horror reference from toto
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 20 August 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link
oh so that's the podcast i have been hearing about, i am like mostly unimpressed after actually listening to it, it verges on heinous at points
― dyl, Sunday, 20 August 2017 07:35 (six years ago) link
I like 'Africa', 'Hold the Line' and 'Rosanna', but on the whole I'm one of those people that's not really into the work of Toto as songwriters/a recording act in their own right, but I rate them supremely highly as musicians and love their work on other people's records.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 20 August 2017 08:11 (six years ago) link
Why is it that supergroups of "top flight professional studio musicians" never hire a top flight professional lyricist?
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 19:44 (six years ago) link
Because (since the advent of marginally competent singer-songwriters in the mid-1960s) "professional lyricists" mostly don't write memorable or even ?
Pete Brown = okay with some duds.
Robert Hunter = pretty good with some duds.
Bernie Taupin = mostly terrible with some gems.
Neil Peart = um. Huh?
When I think of lyricists my mind goes to W.S. Gilbert, Oscar Hammmerstein, Lorenz Hart, Ira Gershwin, Richard Adler. Gerry Goffin? From thenceforward I struggle to think of people who are doing just that and doing it well.
― Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
*or even good lyrics?
― Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I was half-joking, I just think it's funny how a band built around the concept of having people who are at the absolute top of their craft also completely sucks at one key aspect.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link
It's the easiest aspect to overlook, because for most listeners, who cares?
― Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:04 (six years ago) link
I think Paich is a professional songwriter? I don't really think these lyrics fail as pop lyrics.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
OK lol saw the discussion upthread; clearly some people put more thought into these lyrics than I did.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
Scansion on "Serengeti" is p forced too
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link
It makes me happier than it should that pizza parlour covers dude seems to have launched a career off the back of it:
http://www.mikemasse.com/
― めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
being in a band where I have to sing harmony on Africa gives me special appreciation for what a terrible chewy mouthful the lyrics are.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
there is nothing wrong with either the lyrics or the music of this song.
― akm, Monday, 18 September 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link
Sure as KilimanJARo RISes like a LIMPness above the SARANgetNEEEEE
― Tegumai Bopsulai (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
No it's SEEHHHHR...engeDEEEEEEEEEE
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 20:59 (six years ago) link
"There's nothin that a hundred men OR MORE could ever doooooo" -- the "or more" is such a "Damnit, how do I make this lyric fit the melody?" thing.
― the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Monday, 18 September 2017 21:01 (six years ago) link
there are plenty of things wrong with the lyrics or the music of the song and the inescapablility of it is reaching "sweet caroline" depths
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Monday, 18 September 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link