Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

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A white-hot punk/pop blast? Or under-produced , tinny nonsense?

What do I think? Zen Arcade/Flip Your Wig/Warehouse are ace, overall Classic.

Search : "Pink Turns to Blue" (Zen Arcade), "Ice Cold Ice" (Warehouse)

Destroy : "The Baby Song" (Flip Your Wig)

Best Laugh : "Land Speed Record"

If only they had turned the bass, snare and kick drum up a bit post-Zen Arcade, they would have sounded ten times better. Then again, isn't that what Sugar did, and they weren't great. As you were - Classic.

Dr. C, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic, although I always thought Sugar's "Copper Blue" was better than any of the Husker Du albums because of that. Although search Zen Arcade, Flip your wig and Everything falls apart. They all have great songs too. I listened to Flip your wig recently and I thought it might have dated but it still sounds good. Destroy "Warehouse songs and stories", the songs are piss-poor and the production is damn annoying.

, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Dud. Listening to Husker Du now, it becomes clear that there are only 1 or 2 good songs out of the 20 or so on each CD. I go for underproduced tinny nonsense. Pink turns to Blue is good, but what else is good on Zen Arcade? Nothing. That song about the news is okay, until you realise it's going nowhere and actually isn't so catchy after a number of repititions.

, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. If only because Bob Mould is now working for WWF Wrestling as a writer i believe, which has got to be cool. I'd like to see what day jobs other ex indie-punkers have to suffer (or maybe always did...?)


search: New Day Rising + Candy Apple Grey Destroy: Nova MOb

Georgie, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'll admit that it's tough to get past some of the trebly production, but I think Husker Du are third degree classic. Zen Arcade is one of few double records where I don't feel the need to keep hitting skip. That record still roars like no other. I also love Metal Circus, Flip Your Wig, New Day Rising and Candy Apple Grey; otherwise, it's a bit patchy. I'd probably laugh at hearing their superfast hardcore stuff again. "Punch Drunk" fits more lyrics in 30 seconds than an entire Led Zeppelin record. "Hoolabaloolablunk kickinpunchinkinkinpunch boolarbuulloola grrahh!!!!"

I'll agree that Sugar were the better band, though they didn't exactly blaze the trails that Husker Du did. Better rhythm section, more focused attack, etc. Some of David Barbe's songs are really good, but he's no Grant Hart, is he?

Andy, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

essential if only for "eight miles high."

sundar subramanian, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I wouldn't say classic or dud, but tremendously overrated. Bob Mould is a great guitar player but you'd never know it from the way those damn albums were produced. Grant Hart sings like a lachrymose Jim J Bullock. Juvenile lyrics (and not in a good way). Rhythm section stinks for the most part. Despite ALL THAT:

search: Metal Circus, "Pink Turns to Blue", "Eight Miles High", "Gir Who Lives On Heaven Hill", "Eiffel Tower High" (their greatest song, I think)

destroy: Sugar (way booooooooringgggggg)

Kris S., Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

dud. granted, i have had limited exposure to their noise but i always came away from it remembering only the buzzing and silly vocals, bob mould has a terrible voice, sorry. there were never any details to stick with you, nothing to distinguish one song from another. and they should have been shot before becoming the alleged "godfathers" of grunge. but that is just me, i am still hoping someone will do a frank and walters - classic or dud.

keith, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. No discussion. "Zen Arcade" is the one you have to search because it's simply one of the best rock albums ever. Fuck audiophile whining about production & other useless shit. Vision, loud guitars, good screaming voice. I'm not to wild about "Flip Yr Wig" though. Destroy: "Nevermind" ;)

Omar, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I'm leaning toward dud. I like about half of Flip Your Wig, but Zen Arcade did absolutely nothing for me. That's what I would consider a so-called classic that doesn't live up to the hype (or whatever that earlier ILM thread was called.) Warehouse Songs And Stories pretty much sucks, as do all of Grant Hart's songs. I haven't been in the mood for straight-up punk for a long time, so it's probably just me.

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. What's wrong with you lot. Can't you appreciate great guitar pop when you hear it. The last album, Songs and stories, is truly something. Can't believe the band split up after releasing that one. Fuck the Smiths (who released a couple of dreadful albums). In terms of quality Husker du were matched by only a few in the 80's.

There were so many great bands that husker du inspired- Pixies (who taught a certain K. Cobain about songwriting), afghan whigs, Royal trux, and that's to name a few.

In their time they made intense, emotional, angry guitar rock. They had honesty and integrity. MBV took a lot from them (weren't they the British version of the Du). Of course, Bob Mould would follow with Sugar, whose Copper Blue was in part influenced by Loveless.

Right now, with Fushitsusha in hibernation (they have not found a replacement for theitr drummer) we could really do with something like husker du.

J.Desouza, Sunday, 11 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I was always more of a Grant Hart man myself - and was only listening to the ridiculously themed, but much better than Sugar "Last Days Of Pompeii" by Nova Mob this morning. Odd how that keeps coming back to my turntable.

Search "Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely" and "She Floated Away", Destroy "Crystal". I knid of like The Baby Song too.... (I see my tatses obvious run counter to nearly everyone else round here).

Definate Classic though - even with the knitting needle production.

Pete, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

One only needs to look at the Replacements thread to see that I think they're a classic, growly vocals and all. _Zen Arcade_ was the first really aggressive album I ever got into.

Dan Perry, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Used to like them, don't really enjoy them any more. I think dance music has been gradually eroding my capacity for loud messy punk.

Search: most of New Day Rising and Metal Circus, "Chartered Trips", "Pink Turns to Blue", "Turn On the News" Destroy: roughly two-thirds of the catalogue -- a best-of would be nice here because none of the albums are an unassailable listen

Ian White, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Gave them a go once. One of what seems like a thousand bands I was told I'd like because I liked the Pixies. But I didn't like any of the songs, so that was that. They were emotional for certain, but I couldn't empathise.

I find it really really difficult to work out why I like some American guitar rock a lot and some so little.

I'm interested at the number of dud votes here, though. My concerns about the forum are slightly allayed ;)

Tom, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Husker who?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
you know what, i have no friggin idea if i like warehouse or not, i mean, someone told me to buy it bc he said its a great album, one of the best of all time, i listened to it the first time, i liked it, i listened to it again i still liked it but not as much, then i told my freinds to listen to it to c what they think of it, they all gave me the same answer, all the songs sound the same, its garbage, so then i listened to it again, i hated it, im not sure if i like it or not, im confused, can u help me?

Samantha Chin, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic- Was there any other 80's band that so ably fused punk noize, psychedelia, and power pop? Mould's guitar may have overdominated the mix but given the kaleidoscopic whirl of feedback-drenched harmonies he got out of it I can forgive the resultant 'tinny' production. Hart's drumming was frantic and aggressive, and is it true Gregg Norton (rock's finest moustache?) now runs a hamburger stall in Minneapolis? We clearly need more moustaches in pop music.

Stevo, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Jesus Christ, come on. "Pink Turns To Blue", "Celebrated Summer", "Find Me", "I Will Never Forget You", "The Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill" ..... Husker Du were the best band of the 80's - an American Beatles in a lot of respects. The sheer prolific amazingness of their 5 classic albums in 4 years hasn't been achieved in Rock since.

David Gunnip, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
dude, Husker Du were the best! sure the production wasn't great, but husker du made serious, angsty, loud catchy punkish poppish stuff into an *art* ... screw the buzzcocks! "zen arcade" seemed ridiculously thin and aggressive when i first got it, but one day i listened to it all the way through very loud and it was like a revelation, what a record! "new day" and "warehouse" - the aggressive and pretty sides of the same coin - are both killer also.

if you people really hate the band's production, pick up the live lp "the living end" - makes the "warehouse" stuff much less tame and actually sounds *good* (gosh...)

jay, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

screw the buzzcocks!


Ian White, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Living End is fun, especially for the versions of the very early speed-punk stuff and some good unreleased trax like "Now That You Know Me". I have to disagree a little about the sound - for example,the cavernous echo on the snare on "Ice Cold Ice" sounds terrible! Some of the other tracks sound Ok - maybe recorded in smaller halls or something.

Dr. C, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

I used to be a big Husker Du fan as a teenager. You couldn't claim to be an indie fan in the late eighties and not be a Huskers fan. Though I always liked the Replacements better, I liked Husker Du too.

Then all through the nineties I never listened to any of their records. A couple of months ago, I decided to put on New Day Rising. And I was left feeling ... well, nothing. If anything, it sounded like the Mother of All Emo Records, which would of course be a bad thing.

Funny how a decade can change one's perceptions so greatly.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
No fucking contest. *****C*L*A*S*S*I*C***** Fuck. Who do you think Green Day and Nirvana learned from (listen to "Territorial Pissings" and "2000 Light Years Away")? I'm not incredibly fond of many of Hart's songs, but he has a few greats like "pink Turns to Blue" and "She Floated Away," and Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill, even if his lyrics were cheesey now and then. Productionwise, listen to the vinyl for a better representation of their sound. The CD's sound sucks. Plus, better production might have deprived us of listening to Mould try and wretch out his vocal chords to be heard over the din. Zen Arcade destroys all. No punk band was suppossed to be that good and advanced that quickly, and with such a range of emotion. As far as Mould is considered, Sugar is fucking great, as were pretty much everything he touched in Husker Du. 8 Miles High, Something I learned Today, In a Free Land all kick my ass left and right, while Could You be the One and Makes No Sense at All are the two greatest pop punk songs ever written (Ramones nonwithstanding). Search: almost everything Destroy: Nova Mob and about half of Warehouse.

Jim B, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...
I don't think there's a single mention of "Makes No Sense at All" on this thread which I would think is surely their best song, right? A GREAT song. What, is it too obvious to mention this one?

Anyway, I heard "Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely" on the radio today for the first time in a long time and it sounded like the Foo Fighters! (Except for the fact that it was much more well written, of course!)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm shocked that so many posters preferred Sugar, because I do too. "Copper Blue" got me into HD in the first place. That said, classic despite the boxy production. "Diane," all of "New Day Rising," "Flip Your Wig" up through "Private Plane," and "Candy Apple Grey" for "Sorry Somehow" and "Hardly Getting Over it."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I really like Zen Arcade. "Chartered Trips" just doesn't get enough love here (but the instrumentals are nice too). I think the distant smeared 'underproduction' is part of what makes it great.

I also really like reading Julio's early posts.

the fucker that will burn you (sundar), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Metal Circus deserves way more love than it got on this thread too. Classic (production issues aside, and no audiophile I).

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:22 (sixteen years ago) link

search: Metal Circus, "Pink Turns to Blue", "Eight Miles High", "Gir Who Lives On Heaven Hill", "Eiffel Tower High" (their greatest song, I think)

Woah. That is almost exactly the list I'd post, 'cept I'd add in "Books About UFOs" 'cuz it's sweet.

I don't like Zen Arcade that much as an album. I love some of the tracks on it, but I'd be way more likely to listen to New Day Rising all the way through.

babyalive (babyalive), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Bought the 2xLP of Zen Arcade years ago having never heard of the band, and never looked back.

Fucking classic, even now. The only album that's not up to scratch is Candy Apple Grey.

"Brick on your head, 'cause you're a fuckhead" to the naysayers.

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:41 (sixteen years ago) link

"Diane"! So good! "Green Eyes"! So good! "I Will Never Forget You"! So good! "Eight Miles High"! Beyond Fucking Classic! C'mon ILM, Do the Du! it's make you want to scream really loud Aaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhh until you are hoarse, what's not to like?

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:12 (sixteen years ago) link

"Diane" is ridiculously good. I was happy to play that on the air on college radio once or twice just the way I had first heard it myself on the radio!

It occurs to me now Warehouse is the one, that was the name of only album of Husker Du I had. It was about 60% enjoyable as I recall.

The singles were always good, don't get me wrong...Eight Miles High was great too. I heard their version of that before anyone else's, actually. I don't feel cheated by that at all.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"If only they had turned the bass, snare and kick drum up a bit post-Zen Arcade, they would have sounded ten times better."

That was the Hated's theory, anyway...

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

can't you push the bass upfront in the mix when you remaster a record? not exactly the equivalent of turning it up or whatever but still it doesn't look like remastering will be done anytime soon.

Incidentally, listening to DNA and sirone late last year made me realize how the bass could work and what a blind spot that was for me even though those aren't exactly rock. I haven't heard 'zen arcade' in ages so i should revisit this.

(thanks sundar, that must've been one of my v first posts on ilm though for better or worse I could never use a word like 'quality' or 'integrity' again nor 'influence' or 'emotion' without explaining it)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:54 (sixteen years ago) link

It's weird to see the love for "Diane". Great music, but the wording of the lyrical content really bothers me.
Yes, Goddammit, where is the love for NEW DAY RISING. Spectacular from end to end, even errr... the less than spectacular parts. Title track is bliss.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I think New Day Rising is my favorite too but I like them all so who knows. Newest Industry and Chartered Trips are my favorite songs though. I remember getting Metal Circus in high school and being totally freaked out by Diane. The production on the later records bothers me way more than on the early stuff. In fact I don't notice it at all up through New Day Rising.

dan. (dan.), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link

GAH! WHY DOES THIS THREAD EVEN EXIST??? How anyone could say "dud" to Husker Du is something I simply can't fathom. Let's put it this way, the live version of "Divide and Conquer" on The Living End on its own is BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE CATALOG OF YOUR FAVORITE BAND!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Sorry, that's three cups of coffee talkin'.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link

What if my favorite band is Killing Joke?

SmartArse, Friday, 8 April 2005 14:55 (sixteen years ago) link

The Living End, then Zen & Rising, broke my brain &, in essence, birthed my full-on indie wuv when I first heard them 10+ years ago (w/ Sugar serving as the womb). Then I went through a phase where I disowned Husker. Then I felt a little nostalgic (& glommed onto Everything Falls Apart, because it sounded fresh to me). Then I TOTALLY disowned them. Now, I think I'm ambivalent & nostalgically curious, tho I don't think I'll ever hear what I heard way back when now, which is to be expected, but still disappointing. Not that I really need to hear them ever again - I can probably bring up any song from those 2 records at any time in my noggin. Except for the cat skinning one (which I really like). And "59 Times The Pain" can go trip on a bear trap.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Alex, I'll see yr "Divide & Conquer", raise you "Hardly Getting Over It", & then go all in w/ "Books About UFOs".

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, WTF w/ destroying "The Baby Song"!?!?!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha - thanks to thinking about "The Baby Song", I now have "Flexible Flyer" stuck in my head! Yay!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Every single thing the band did was great. Even the not great stuff.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Yup, they are so far "Classic" they're off the scale. Too much to search, too few to destroy.

bg, Friday, 8 April 2005 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm. Divide & Conquer...I remember that one being really good too. *scratches head, pondering* Maybe I'm due for a Husker re-listen of some kind. It would be fun to make my own comp of them.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm totally wearing a big eye-piercing orange New Day Rising shirt today

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Man, I need to get Flip Your Wig again. I had it on tape, and now it's lost. With songs like "Hate Paper Doll", they're the only hardcore punk band that could have a Broadway musical based around their songs.

(Did I just say that?)

Also, Greg Norton, being the most underrated member of the band, is such a great bassist. I walk around most days with a loop of "Statues" running on repeat in my brain.

Any coincidence that this thread has been revived just after that special sometime in April when we add another hour?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Much of Bob Mould's post-Du career has left me cold; and much of the reason is his reluctance to SHRED! Maybe he's just a contrary bastard who refuses to play guitar solos to piss off a receptive audience for them, same as 20 years ago when his willingness/ability to play 'em no doubt offended punk-purist morons. If so, that's amusing & admirable in a way, but musically unfortunate, since we're talking about one of the most thrilling Flying V-specialists of all time. Just one all-out shred-fest per album is all I ask, save it for the very last song, just like in the old days, with his old band. The old days, when you could buy a Husker Du rec and be assured of getting, in addition to a Mould ax-travaganza, (1) a beautiful cover; (2) a weird instrumental or near-instrumental, and (3) any number of unforgettable songs, in a roughly 60-40 split between Mould and Hart songs, with Grant Hart making up for the imbalance by always contributing my own personal LP-highlight, each time, each album out. (Said band being an unquestioned CLASSIC, in case you need to ask.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Speaking of Katzman I was once talking to him about Husker and I repeated the old saw abt "well the records don't sound great" and he looked me dead in the eye and said "those records sound EXACTLY how they wanted them to sound"

The second Man Sized Action record is way better than the first

chr1sb3singer, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:11 (eleven months ago) link

haha yes I remember you saying that earlier in one of these threads re: Husker sound

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:17 (eleven months ago) link

Various - Barefoot And Pregnant (Cass, Comp) Reflex B, 1982

the copy I heard of this was pretty bad sound quality, think this is mostly demos/live stuff of hardcore bands (unless the copy was just bad) - like one of the Loud Fast Rules songs on it though

Final Conflict - Final Conflict ‎(7") REFLEX G, 1983

I like this, I've got a reissue of this single. iirc Bob Mould produced it? decent hardcore punk. there was another band called Final Conflict from California (who I also like) but this isn't them, this band was from Minnesota.

Minutemen - "Tour-Spiel" EP (7", EP) REFLEX L, 1985

this is a bit throw-away, it's all live covers, it's on that Post Mersh Vol 3 CD

also agree with sleeve about that Article of Faith record (I haven't actually heard any post-1985 AoF)

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

AOF's In This Life LP (1986) is basically post-Rites Of Spring proto-emo, fwiw

not bad, just a different beast entirely

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:25 (eleven months ago) link

Man sized action is great!

Boring, Maryland, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:28 (eleven months ago) link

ah I've actually got that but I thought it was 1985 (it's on a CD called Complete 1983-85)

I like it tbh. but yeah the earlier stuff is better


CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 17:29 (eleven months ago) link

I repeated the old saw abt "well the records don't sound great" and he looked me dead in the eye and said "those records sound EXACTLY how they wanted them to sound"

I think that's totally right, btw. The aesthetic of HD is, as Ken Stringfellow described it, "paper drums and shredded paper voice". I remember arguing with an old editor re: DH vs Sugar, and she said she hated Sugar because of the conventional rhythm section, and that Grant's percussion served as an antidote to ploddy rock machismo. The WEA albums especially sound, I'd reckon, exactly how they're supposed to sound - though again I'd argue the SST CDs would sound better if they were more akin to how the SST vinyl sounds.

comorbidities in the BK lounge (stevie), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:48 (eleven months ago) link

See also: And Justice for All, which got remastered last year or so and everyone was all "finally some low end!" and the band basically said, um, it sounds that way because we wanted it to sound like that.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:52 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah tbh I love AJFA's hissy attack. IT DOESN'T NEED BASS.

comorbidities in the BK lounge (stevie), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 18:53 (eleven months ago) link

They ended up touring fairly extensively behind Diver Down:

According to that setlist info, they even previewed some 1984 album tracks during those shows.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:28 (eleven months ago) link


sleeve, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:29 (eleven months ago) link

Oh wow. Oops.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:34 (eleven months ago) link


"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:36 (eleven months ago) link

This is 2541, you need 5150 a few blocks up the road

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:39 (eleven months ago) link


While I'm here tho, I had always partially chalked up the shittiness of the WB Husker's CDs to how poor CD mastering still could be in the late '80s. My vinyl Warehouse has a slightly thicker sound than the CD.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 19:41 (eleven months ago) link

haw, nick

pplains, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

Now I’m fantasizing about what a current day reunion of Van Halen with Bob Mould taking on guitar duties would sound like.

rattle, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 20:48 (eleven months ago) link

It would be ... stunning.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 October 2020 20:54 (eleven months ago) link

He'd make them cover "Love Is All Around".

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

Especially if Greg's in on bass too with his trademark "Klipp" sound.


your response will be deleted unread (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:15 (eleven months ago) link

similar to Barefoot and Pregnant is the Minneapolis hardcore comp Kitten, features the Rifle Sport (Todd Trainer from Shellac was the drummer)

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

Haha, proud crass fools = loud fast rules

Also I had no idea until just now that Tom Hazelmeyer was in Otto's Chemical Lounge who i still haven't ever listened to

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:40 (eleven months ago) link

What are the good records for rifle sport ums?

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:43 (eleven months ago) link

Huskers opened this show

...with that "Fattie" track playing as they came out and plugged in. I was buying everything by them at that point, loved that EP. I can see my friend Mike in that pic.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 21:52 (eleven months ago) link

Todd also played (drums/guitar/vox) as a member of Breaking Circus in parallel with his tenure in Rifle Sport.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 22:00 (eleven months ago) link

not sure I knew that, their The Very Long Fuse EP is good

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 22:05 (eleven months ago) link

I had a youthful phase of buying anything I could find on Homestead, so I ended up with a couple of Breaking Circus records - the album and the smokers paradise EP. Couple of good tracks on both iirc, 'took a hammering' is the one song by them that is really lodged in my mind

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 22:12 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Come across this strange little curio on D1mead0zen and thought I might share it.

This looks like it was supposed to be a Husker Du show, but Bob lost his voice, so Grant (and Greg?) went on stage with the "Hypstrz!" and did a bunch of covers, and some other songs.

Husker Du/Hypstr Du
Minneapolis, MN USA
Seventh Street Entry
8 January 1981
[audience recording; total running time: 40:27.46]

A side (40:27.46):
01 start (00:06.36)
02 Statues (04:38.00)
03 interim / tuning (00:27.23)
04 Louie Louie (02:25.65) [Kingsmen]
05 interim / tuning (00:38.11)
06 unknown title ["piss in a bottle" to the tune of Good Golly Miss Molly] (03:24.33)
07 interim / tuning (00:20.27)
08 unknown title [mostly instrumental w/ ad lib vocal] (03:50.14)
09 interim / tuning (00:41.41)
10 Shakin' All Over (03:09.43) [Johnny Kidd & The Pirates]
11 interim / tuning (00:26.47)
12 unknown title (04:10.34)
13 Gloria (02:40.55) [Them]
14 interim / tuning (01:13.65) [someone shouts "Hypstrz!"]
15 C'mon Everybody (02:04.32) [Eddie Cochran]
16 Little Latin Lupe Lu (02:25.60) [Righteous Brothers]
17 interim / tuning (00:22.31)
18 unknown title (02:52.18)
19 interim / tuning (01:11.43)
20 Money (That's What I Want) (03:17.43) [Barrett Strong]

Maresn3st, Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:12 (ten months ago) link

NOt listened to this yet but do remember coming across the Hypstrz who I think were a Voxx label garage revival band

Stevolende, Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:38 (ten months ago) link

It's not much more than a knockabout for the most part, really, but worth a listen.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:41 (ten months ago) link

the hypstrz sharing membership with the mighty mofos

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 22 October 2020 14:56 (ten months ago) link

The Hypstrz/The Mighty Mofos are the brainchild of the Batson Brothers two extremely unlikely looking dudes (like the Huskers, bigger, pro-wrestling sized[AWA style not the WWF shit]) the Hypstrz were originally a more Nuggets style garage/punk cover band who date back to the late 70s Suicide Commandos/Longhorn Bar scene, they became the Mofos (different...drummer? I think) who are essentially the same, a few more originals and have played as the Mofos or the Hypstrz ever since.

I bet I have seen them...50 times? 60? Without a doubt the best Mpls band ever. EVER.

Hypstrz had a record om Bomp! that fucking smokes

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:24 (ten months ago) link

The Batsons along with the Whole Lotta Loves, represent deep Northeast Mpls cred, eat dick southside with your...Lutherans and your lakes, pfft

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:27 (ten months ago) link

Huskers are stone-cold St. Paul, which is why they are essentially melancholy

Replacements are southwest, Uptown/Lyn-Lake which is why they are essentially barf

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:30 (ten months ago) link

haha love it, preach my man

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:31 (ten months ago) link

Mighty Mofos all Who cover set is one of the best things you could ever see

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:33 (ten months ago) link

I saw the Batson Bros doing "Are You Man Enough?" by the Four Tops from the Shaft in Africa sndtrack and it KILLED

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:34 (ten months ago) link

remember that one show (ollie stench's bday?) where they did "It's a Long Way to the Top" By AC/DC with full dress bagpipers?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:41 (ten months ago) link

Oh shit that's right! Hahaha

Also, it dawns on me when 99% of people think about "Minneapolis Music Scene" they Replacements, Prince, Suburbs, etc, but in reality the Minneapolis music scene is arguing with Billy Batson about the monitor mix and getting the stink-eye from Ernie for talking too loud in the library

chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 22 October 2020 15:49 (ten months ago) link

it was kinda funny cuz i think ed gein fan club had to follow that, good luck boys

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 October 2020 16:33 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Awesome local doc about Land Speed Era Huskers, lots of local heads in this, the people in this doc are really the ones who would know, lots of obscure Mpls bands mentioned up thread are seen here briefly

chr1sb3singer, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 14:30 (ten months ago) link

thanks! will watch later today, looks great.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:10 (ten months ago) link

that was an absolute treat, thank you!

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:29 (ten months ago) link

yeah that was awesome

Huskers are stone-cold St. Paul, which is why they are essentially melancholy

me, 15 and essentially melancholy, at a bus stop near Dunn Bros on Grand in '93, reading the City Pages review of the Everything Falls Apart rerelease

lukas, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:33 (ten months ago) link

(lol there was a bit in the end credits in that doc that said "'eight miles high' written by robert berry, keith emerson and carl palmer" which was a tad confusing - turns out those guys covered it as the band '3' in 1988. it's um, not a very good version)

kites aren't fun (NickB), Tuesday, 10 November 2020 23:39 (ten months ago) link

I saw that! Also, minor quibble but Twin/Tone never released any Hypstrz records.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:10 (ten months ago) link

Tbh to an outsider, the MPLS vs St Paul thing, even if it’s a bit of fun, is kinda interesting, not least in due to the back in the day flagship bands of both, and partly due to the nature of the Twin Cities

(Clearly countless instances over the years of Husker Du being subsumed under the ‘Minneapolis band’ umbrella)

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:17 (ten months ago) link

eight months pass...

A new Hüsker Dü live album, Longhorn Tonight, will be released later this year. It will feature a handful of appearances at their local home town venue according to former bassist Greg Norton.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 3 August 2021 19:22 (one month ago) link

hey Greg Ginn, stop being an asshole and let them reissue this shit FFS

sleeve, Wednesday, 4 August 2021 05:01 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Serious question? Are there any kit breakdowns for Grant out there on the intertubes? I really wanna know his ride cymbal choices for all studio records. There's a magic in their sound in a way that's as important to me today as they were when I was 17.

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 11 September 2021 03:38 (one week ago) link

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