Husker Du : Classic or Dud, Search and Destroy.

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A white-hot punk/pop blast? Or under-produced , tinny nonsense?

What do I think? Zen Arcade/Flip Your Wig/Warehouse are ace, overall Classic.

Search : "Pink Turns to Blue" (Zen Arcade), "Ice Cold Ice" (Warehouse)

Destroy : "The Baby Song" (Flip Your Wig)

Best Laugh : "Land Speed Record"

If only they had turned the bass, snare and kick drum up a bit post-Zen Arcade, they would have sounded ten times better. Then again, isn't that what Sugar did, and they weren't great. As you were - Classic.

Dr. C, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Classic, although I always thought Sugar's "Copper Blue" was better than any of the Husker Du albums because of that. Although search Zen Arcade, Flip your wig and Everything falls apart. They all have great songs too. I listened to Flip your wig recently and I thought it might have dated but it still sounds good. Destroy "Warehouse songs and stories", the songs are piss-poor and the production is damn annoying.

, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Dud. Listening to Husker Du now, it becomes clear that there are only 1 or 2 good songs out of the 20 or so on each CD. I go for underproduced tinny nonsense. Pink turns to Blue is good, but what else is good on Zen Arcade? Nothing. That song about the news is okay, until you realise it's going nowhere and actually isn't so catchy after a number of repititions.

, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. If only because Bob Mould is now working for WWF Wrestling as a writer i believe, which has got to be cool. I'd like to see what day jobs other ex indie-punkers have to suffer (or maybe always did...?)


search: New Day Rising + Candy Apple Grey Destroy: Nova MOb

Georgie, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

I'll admit that it's tough to get past some of the trebly production, but I think Husker Du are third degree classic. Zen Arcade is one of few double records where I don't feel the need to keep hitting skip. That record still roars like no other. I also love Metal Circus, Flip Your Wig, New Day Rising and Candy Apple Grey; otherwise, it's a bit patchy. I'd probably laugh at hearing their superfast hardcore stuff again. "Punch Drunk" fits more lyrics in 30 seconds than an entire Led Zeppelin record. "Hoolabaloolablunk kickinpunchinkinkinpunch boolarbuulloola grrahh!!!!"

I'll agree that Sugar were the better band, though they didn't exactly blaze the trails that Husker Du did. Better rhythm section, more focused attack, etc. Some of David Barbe's songs are really good, but he's no Grant Hart, is he?

Andy, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

essential if only for "eight miles high."

sundar subramanian, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't say classic or dud, but tremendously overrated. Bob Mould is a great guitar player but you'd never know it from the way those damn albums were produced. Grant Hart sings like a lachrymose Jim J Bullock. Juvenile lyrics (and not in a good way). Rhythm section stinks for the most part. Despite ALL THAT:

search: Metal Circus, "Pink Turns to Blue", "Eight Miles High", "Gir Who Lives On Heaven Hill", "Eiffel Tower High" (their greatest song, I think)

destroy: Sugar (way booooooooringgggggg)

Kris S., Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

dud. granted, i have had limited exposure to their noise but i always came away from it remembering only the buzzing and silly vocals, bob mould has a terrible voice, sorry. there were never any details to stick with you, nothing to distinguish one song from another. and they should have been shot before becoming the alleged "godfathers" of grunge. but that is just me, i am still hoping someone will do a frank and walters - classic or dud.

keith, Friday, 9 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. No discussion. "Zen Arcade" is the one you have to search because it's simply one of the best rock albums ever. Fuck audiophile whining about production & other useless shit. Vision, loud guitars, good screaming voice. I'm not to wild about "Flip Yr Wig" though. Destroy: "Nevermind" ;)

Omar, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

I'm leaning toward dud. I like about half of Flip Your Wig, but Zen Arcade did absolutely nothing for me. That's what I would consider a so-called classic that doesn't live up to the hype (or whatever that earlier ILM thread was called.) Warehouse Songs And Stories pretty much sucks, as do all of Grant Hart's songs. I haven't been in the mood for straight-up punk for a long time, so it's probably just me.

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 10 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Classic. What's wrong with you lot. Can't you appreciate great guitar pop when you hear it. The last album, Songs and stories, is truly something. Can't believe the band split up after releasing that one. Fuck the Smiths (who released a couple of dreadful albums). In terms of quality Husker du were matched by only a few in the 80's.

There were so many great bands that husker du inspired- Pixies (who taught a certain K. Cobain about songwriting), afghan whigs, Royal trux, and that's to name a few.

In their time they made intense, emotional, angry guitar rock. They had honesty and integrity. MBV took a lot from them (weren't they the British version of the Du). Of course, Bob Mould would follow with Sugar, whose Copper Blue was in part influenced by Loveless.

Right now, with Fushitsusha in hibernation (they have not found a replacement for theitr drummer) we could really do with something like husker du.

J.Desouza, Sunday, 11 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

I was always more of a Grant Hart man myself - and was only listening to the ridiculously themed, but much better than Sugar "Last Days Of Pompeii" by Nova Mob this morning. Odd how that keeps coming back to my turntable.

Search "Don't Want To Know If You Are Lonely" and "She Floated Away", Destroy "Crystal". I knid of like The Baby Song too.... (I see my tatses obvious run counter to nearly everyone else round here).

Definate Classic though - even with the knitting needle production.

Pete, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

One only needs to look at the Replacements thread to see that I think they're a classic, growly vocals and all. _Zen Arcade_ was the first really aggressive album I ever got into.

Dan Perry, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Used to like them, don't really enjoy them any more. I think dance music has been gradually eroding my capacity for loud messy punk.

Search: most of New Day Rising and Metal Circus, "Chartered Trips", "Pink Turns to Blue", "Turn On the News" Destroy: roughly two-thirds of the catalogue -- a best-of would be nice here because none of the albums are an unassailable listen

Ian White, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Gave them a go once. One of what seems like a thousand bands I was told I'd like because I liked the Pixies. But I didn't like any of the songs, so that was that. They were emotional for certain, but I couldn't empathise.

I find it really really difficult to work out why I like some American guitar rock a lot and some so little.

I'm interested at the number of dud votes here, though. My concerns about the forum are slightly allayed ;)

Tom, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

Husker who?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 13 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
you know what, i have no friggin idea if i like warehouse or not, i mean, someone told me to buy it bc he said its a great album, one of the best of all time, i listened to it the first time, i liked it, i listened to it again i still liked it but not as much, then i told my freinds to listen to it to c what they think of it, they all gave me the same answer, all the songs sound the same, its garbage, so then i listened to it again, i hated it, im not sure if i like it or not, im confused, can u help me?

Samantha Chin, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

Classic- Was there any other 80's band that so ably fused punk noize, psychedelia, and power pop? Mould's guitar may have overdominated the mix but given the kaleidoscopic whirl of feedback-drenched harmonies he got out of it I can forgive the resultant 'tinny' production. Hart's drumming was frantic and aggressive, and is it true Gregg Norton (rock's finest moustache?) now runs a hamburger stall in Minneapolis? We clearly need more moustaches in pop music.

Stevo, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Jesus Christ, come on. "Pink Turns To Blue", "Celebrated Summer", "Find Me", "I Will Never Forget You", "The Girl Who Lives On Heaven Hill" ..... Husker Du were the best band of the 80's - an American Beatles in a lot of respects. The sheer prolific amazingness of their 5 classic albums in 4 years hasn't been achieved in Rock since.

David Gunnip, Monday, 13 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...
dude, Husker Du were the best! sure the production wasn't great, but husker du made serious, angsty, loud catchy punkish poppish stuff into an *art* ... screw the buzzcocks! "zen arcade" seemed ridiculously thin and aggressive when i first got it, but one day i listened to it all the way through very loud and it was like a revelation, what a record! "new day" and "warehouse" - the aggressive and pretty sides of the same coin - are both killer also.

if you people really hate the band's production, pick up the live lp "the living end" - makes the "warehouse" stuff much less tame and actually sounds *good* (gosh...)

jay, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

screw the buzzcocks!


Ian White, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

The Living End is fun, especially for the versions of the very early speed-punk stuff and some good unreleased trax like "Now That You Know Me". I have to disagree a little about the sound - for example,the cavernous echo on the snare on "Ice Cold Ice" sounds terrible! Some of the other tracks sound Ok - maybe recorded in smaller halls or something.

Dr. C, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

I used to be a big Husker Du fan as a teenager. You couldn't claim to be an indie fan in the late eighties and not be a Huskers fan. Though I always liked the Replacements better, I liked Husker Du too.

Then all through the nineties I never listened to any of their records. A couple of months ago, I decided to put on New Day Rising. And I was left feeling ... well, nothing. If anything, it sounded like the Mother of All Emo Records, which would of course be a bad thing.

Funny how a decade can change one's perceptions so greatly.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
No fucking contest. *****C*L*A*S*S*I*C***** Fuck. Who do you think Green Day and Nirvana learned from (listen to "Territorial Pissings" and "2000 Light Years Away")? I'm not incredibly fond of many of Hart's songs, but he has a few greats like "pink Turns to Blue" and "She Floated Away," and Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill, even if his lyrics were cheesey now and then. Productionwise, listen to the vinyl for a better representation of their sound. The CD's sound sucks. Plus, better production might have deprived us of listening to Mould try and wretch out his vocal chords to be heard over the din. Zen Arcade destroys all. No punk band was suppossed to be that good and advanced that quickly, and with such a range of emotion. As far as Mould is considered, Sugar is fucking great, as were pretty much everything he touched in Husker Du. 8 Miles High, Something I learned Today, In a Free Land all kick my ass left and right, while Could You be the One and Makes No Sense at All are the two greatest pop punk songs ever written (Ramones nonwithstanding). Search: almost everything Destroy: Nova Mob and about half of Warehouse.

Jim B, Friday, 19 October 2001 00:00 (seventeen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...
I don't think there's a single mention of "Makes No Sense at All" on this thread which I would think is surely their best song, right? A GREAT song. What, is it too obvious to mention this one?

Anyway, I heard "Don't Want to Know If You Are Lonely" on the radio today for the first time in a long time and it sounded like the Foo Fighters! (Except for the fact that it was much more well written, of course!)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm shocked that so many posters preferred Sugar, because I do too. "Copper Blue" got me into HD in the first place. That said, classic despite the boxy production. "Diane," all of "New Day Rising," "Flip Your Wig" up through "Private Plane," and "Candy Apple Grey" for "Sorry Somehow" and "Hardly Getting Over it."

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I really like Zen Arcade. "Chartered Trips" just doesn't get enough love here (but the instrumentals are nice too). I think the distant smeared 'underproduction' is part of what makes it great.

I also really like reading Julio's early posts.

the fucker that will burn you (sundar), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:50 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Metal Circus deserves way more love than it got on this thread too. Classic (production issues aside, and no audiophile I).

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

search: Metal Circus, "Pink Turns to Blue", "Eight Miles High", "Gir Who Lives On Heaven Hill", "Eiffel Tower High" (their greatest song, I think)

Woah. That is almost exactly the list I'd post, 'cept I'd add in "Books About UFOs" 'cuz it's sweet.

I don't like Zen Arcade that much as an album. I love some of the tracks on it, but I'd be way more likely to listen to New Day Rising all the way through.

babyalive (babyalive), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Bought the 2xLP of Zen Arcade years ago having never heard of the band, and never looked back.

Fucking classic, even now. The only album that's not up to scratch is Candy Apple Grey.

"Brick on your head, 'cause you're a fuckhead" to the naysayers.

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 8 April 2005 05:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Diane"! So good! "Green Eyes"! So good! "I Will Never Forget You"! So good! "Eight Miles High"! Beyond Fucking Classic! C'mon ILM, Do the Du! it's make you want to scream really loud Aaaarrrrrrrggggghhhhh until you are hoarse, what's not to like?

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:12 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"Diane" is ridiculously good. I was happy to play that on the air on college radio once or twice just the way I had first heard it myself on the radio!

It occurs to me now Warehouse is the one, that was the name of only album of Husker Du I had. It was about 60% enjoyable as I recall.

The singles were always good, don't get me wrong...Eight Miles High was great too. I heard their version of that before anyone else's, actually. I don't feel cheated by that at all.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 8 April 2005 06:22 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

"If only they had turned the bass, snare and kick drum up a bit post-Zen Arcade, they would have sounded ten times better."

That was the Hated's theory, anyway...

Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:35 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

can't you push the bass upfront in the mix when you remaster a record? not exactly the equivalent of turning it up or whatever but still it doesn't look like remastering will be done anytime soon.

Incidentally, listening to DNA and sirone late last year made me realize how the bass could work and what a blind spot that was for me even though those aren't exactly rock. I haven't heard 'zen arcade' in ages so i should revisit this.

(thanks sundar, that must've been one of my v first posts on ilm though for better or worse I could never use a word like 'quality' or 'integrity' again nor 'influence' or 'emotion' without explaining it)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 8 April 2005 07:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

It's weird to see the love for "Diane". Great music, but the wording of the lyrical content really bothers me.

What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Friday, 8 April 2005 09:02 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Goddammit, where is the love for NEW DAY RISING. Spectacular from end to end, even errr... the less than spectacular parts. Title track is bliss.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I think New Day Rising is my favorite too but I like them all so who knows. Newest Industry and Chartered Trips are my favorite songs though. I remember getting Metal Circus in high school and being totally freaked out by Diane. The production on the later records bothers me way more than on the early stuff. In fact I don't notice it at all up through New Day Rising.

dan. (dan.), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

GAH! WHY DOES THIS THREAD EVEN EXIST??? How anyone could say "dud" to Husker Du is something I simply can't fathom. Let's put it this way, the live version of "Divide and Conquer" on The Living End on its own is BETTER THAN THE ENTIRE CATALOG OF YOUR FAVORITE BAND!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Sorry, that's three cups of coffee talkin'.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

What if my favorite band is Killing Joke?

SmartArse, Friday, 8 April 2005 14:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

The Living End, then Zen & Rising, broke my brain &, in essence, birthed my full-on indie wuv when I first heard them 10+ years ago (w/ Sugar serving as the womb). Then I went through a phase where I disowned Husker. Then I felt a little nostalgic (& glommed onto Everything Falls Apart, because it sounded fresh to me). Then I TOTALLY disowned them. Now, I think I'm ambivalent & nostalgically curious, tho I don't think I'll ever hear what I heard way back when now, which is to be expected, but still disappointing. Not that I really need to hear them ever again - I can probably bring up any song from those 2 records at any time in my noggin. Except for the cat skinning one (which I really like). And "59 Times The Pain" can go trip on a bear trap.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:56 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Alex, I'll see yr "Divide & Conquer", raise you "Hardly Getting Over It", & then go all in w/ "Books About UFOs".

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Also, WTF w/ destroying "The Baby Song"!?!?!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Ha - thanks to thinking about "The Baby Song", I now have "Flexible Flyer" stuck in my head! Yay!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Every single thing the band did was great. Even the not great stuff.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Yup, they are so far "Classic" they're off the scale. Too much to search, too few to destroy.

bg, Friday, 8 April 2005 15:29 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Divide & Conquer...I remember that one being really good too. *scratches head, pondering* Maybe I'm due for a Husker re-listen of some kind. It would be fun to make my own comp of them.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:38 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

I'm totally wearing a big eye-piercing orange New Day Rising shirt today

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Man, I need to get Flip Your Wig again. I had it on tape, and now it's lost. With songs like "Hate Paper Doll", they're the only hardcore punk band that could have a Broadway musical based around their songs.

(Did I just say that?)

Also, Greg Norton, being the most underrated member of the band, is such a great bassist. I walk around most days with a loop of "Statues" running on repeat in my brain.

Any coincidence that this thread has been revived just after that special sometime in April when we add another hour?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 8 April 2005 15:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Much of Bob Mould's post-Du career has left me cold; and much of the reason is his reluctance to SHRED! Maybe he's just a contrary bastard who refuses to play guitar solos to piss off a receptive audience for them, same as 20 years ago when his willingness/ability to play 'em no doubt offended punk-purist morons. If so, that's amusing & admirable in a way, but musically unfortunate, since we're talking about one of the most thrilling Flying V-specialists of all time. Just one all-out shred-fest per album is all I ask, save it for the very last song, just like in the old days, with his old band. The old days, when you could buy a Husker Du rec and be assured of getting, in addition to a Mould ax-travaganza, (1) a beautiful cover; (2) a weird instrumental or near-instrumental, and (3) any number of unforgettable songs, in a roughly 60-40 split between Mould and Hart songs, with Grant Hart making up for the imbalance by always contributing my own personal LP-highlight, each time, each album out. (Said band being an unquestioned CLASSIC, in case you need to ask.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:23 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Or Nick Lowe, you mean.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 17 October 2015 19:29 (three years ago) Permalink

Ah hell, I knew that.

can't stop won't stop chooglin (how's life), Saturday, 17 October 2015 19:41 (three years ago) Permalink

when i read it i felt like he talked a lot about money in the book, he has a real accountant streak

― La Lechera, Friday, October 16, 2015 4:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i really appreciated that, it's so often overlooked or forgotten by so many bands that don't save their money or pay people to do things they could do themselves, like book tours, manage press, etc.

flappy bird, Saturday, 17 October 2015 22:23 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Numero, on FB

The Factory Outlet Tour was nearly over... then we decided to stop in Minneapolis and grab a
grip of tapes for our next big project.

a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 October 2016 04:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Red House on one tape! They were a great band, more important to me than Huskers, tragically underrecorded. Their only single:

Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Monday, 24 October 2016 15:48 (two years ago) Permalink

Hmm, it never occurred to me that any reissue program might actually just be live releases ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:23 (two years ago) Permalink

previous numero posting was a 1979 demo tape -- think they're going for something pretty all-encompassing.

tylerw, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:30 (two years ago) Permalink

Fuck yes, I can't wait.

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:39 (two years ago) Permalink

Perhaps they haven't won rights to the SST stuff yet so can only release demos/live stuff?

Is that my hand, manatee? (stevie), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:42 (two years ago) Permalink

think they posted a pic of the New Day Rising master tapes too ...

tylerw, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

now we're talking

sleeve, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

think they posted a pic of the New Day Rising master tapes too ...

― tylerw, Monday, October 24, 2016 1:43 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:50 (two years ago) Permalink

Just gimme an a la carte pay to download option numero ppl

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Monday, 24 October 2016 17:54 (two years ago) Permalink

huh, a safety master - not the original. wonder if they couldn't find the originals, or Ginn lost them, who knows

sleeve, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:56 (two years ago) Permalink

crazy how Ginn is basically a scooby doo villain in the entire SST saga at this point

tylerw, Monday, 24 October 2016 17:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Hüskers giving Flip Your Wig to SST instead of Warners as a final thank you is one of the greatest tragedies in rock history. if that record was released on a major label, they could've been huge. that quote from Mould at the end of the HD section in Our Band Could Be Your Life is so sad, something to the effect of "We could've done so much more."

flappy bird, Monday, 24 October 2016 18:01 (two years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
one month passes...

Sick show I just found on YouTube, been up for a while but never seen it before:

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:57 (one year ago) Permalink

Looks like it's two different shows spliced together

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:57 (one year ago) Permalink

goddamn my man can SHRED!

flappy bird, Thursday, 5 October 2017 17:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Pushthebuttonbaby! Pushthebuttonbaby!

"Celebration" encourages the listener to celebrate good times. (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 5 October 2017 18:17 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Minnesota Public Radio 5-part podcast on the band's history is now live

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:08 (one year ago) Permalink


tylerw, Monday, 30 October 2017 20:37 (one year ago) Permalink

the box set is really raising the questions for me of why they didn't take this fucking great More Circus material and combine it w/Metal Circus to make what would have been probably a top 10 all-time American hardcore record...

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 October 2017 21:22 (one year ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

Greg Norton & The Posies add blue to "Green Eyes" ?!?!?
I guess I appreciate the variation but as a green-eyed person with no blue I prefer the version with plain green eyes.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2018 13:51 (ten months ago) Permalink

Yeah, I was at this show and was wondering about that. Incredible encore, though.

geoffreyess, Friday, 29 June 2018 16:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

you were there?!
tell us more!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2018 16:59 (ten months ago) Permalink

Hmm, let’s see. A mini-review: It was part of the Posies' 30th anniversary tour, with Frosting on the Beater lineup. Given that the band’s tending to their influences is such a big part of their identity, and that they were emphasizing their most Husker-indebted years, a Grant Hart tribute felt inevitable. Norton's current band Porcupine opened and had already played "Standing by the Sea," so when he came back with The Posies for the encore, Ken Stringfellow was right to ask, "I don't need to explain anything, right?" They played "These Important Years," "Green Eyes” (the twist on the lyrics must’ve been a nod to… something?), "Makes No Sense At All" and "Sorry Somehow,” all very faithful, a spittle-y Ken singing the latter, angelic Jon Auer handling most of the rest, and ended with a very very fast "Grant Hart" that couldn't have lasted more than 90 seconds. Ken, prone to emcee-ing, spoke about the difficulty of acquiring Zen Arcade in Bellingham WA in 1984, and how when he finally heard it, it "showed everything and explained nothing.” Playing the encore with Norton was, for him and Jon, “meta,” while for Norton it appeared to be mainly humbling, and it was weird to consider the gulf between their experiences of the moment they were creating together. I’ve never seen any two members of Husker Du share a stage but Norton makes it easier to imagine, with much of the same energy and presence as Bob Mould in recent years. He didn’t say a word but there’s so much excitement in his playing right now, hard to tell if it’s the thrill of performing again or a spirit that never went away.

geoffreyess, Monday, 2 July 2018 04:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

Also he looks terrific, fwiw. Like, wow.

geoffreyess, Monday, 2 July 2018 04:14 (ten months ago) Permalink

good intel!! thank you for typing that all out.

i miss grant hart a lot -- i think about him more than i expected to. who could they possibly get to replace him? i'm glad Du didn't reunite. I don't regret missing the Mats reunion either. I am, however, weirdly excited about the Kinks getting back together but let's face it -- these are desperate times and I will take whatever good news comes at me.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 2 July 2018 12:37 (ten months ago) Permalink

Great you-are-there show take, wish I was or were there!

From Rolling Reissues 2017, listened to this several times and first impressions lingered:

NPR's First Listen streamed all three discs of Numero's
Savage Young Du, 69 tracks from 1979-82, preceded by
Michaelangelo Matos' brimming, bracing backstory.
Takes a while for them to get it together in any noteworthy,
non-dated way, though do really like "Statues,"

"Industrial Grocery Store", and several others are pretty good on Disc 1.
Disc 2 sounds quite a bit better right from the start---
I'd prob follow playlisted "Statues" with "Wheels", which is like a
battered Gary Numan vehicle, tho doubt he could scream like this---
shortfastones in the middle eventually blur (but vocal bits, esp. chants,
jostle and jump out for a second), strong finish, especially "Don't Try It",
"Private Hell" (I'd put that right after "Statues" and "Wheels"), "Diane"
and "Sex Dolls'. These are all longer than the blurry muddy ones.
Disc 3 coughs up another crusted mittful for the playlist,
especially when the guitar and drums are in effective contrast,
bass fits both, on "Gravity" and this first version of "Target",
for inst (the remakes or retakes, incl this one of "Wheels",
a highlight of prev disc, not so hot). Also dig the warped groove
of "Travel In Opposite Car", vocal interjections of "Blah Blah Blah."
Several others--- though pretty sure all the young keepers
(incl. ones that might grow on me) could fit one CD, no prob,
considering how many of these 69 are 1-2 minutes long---
some others might sound better in a different context.
Overall, at this point:
The attitude seems predictable---get in line, punkos---
but these whiffs of vitality never are.

dow, Monday, 2 July 2018 21:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Greg Norton's new band Porcupine is pretty cool.

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:33 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

"Flexible Flyer" is Hart I'm pretty sure. (Also "Hardly Getting Over It" is on there twice.) No "Chartered Trips"?

JoeStork, Saturday, 12 January 2019 01:16 (four months ago) Permalink

Too Far Down is a chillingly great song

Bênoit Balls (stevie), Saturday, 12 January 2019 07:28 (four months ago) Permalink

I had one friend in junior high that got his mom worried up because she found his handwritten lyrics to "Suicide Solution" by Ozzy Osbourne in his room.

Things got a little more sophisticated in high school when another friend's mom became concerned after finding the lyrics and chords to "Too Far Down" on his dresser.

pplains, Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:06 (four months ago) Permalink

"Flexible Flyer" definitely a Grant song. He even sorta paid it a revisit on The Argument:

pplains, Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:12 (four months ago) Permalink

^^ great tune!!

i miss grant hart :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Ain't nothing like "The Real World"...

clemenza, Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:21 (four months ago) Permalink

(Or, better yet, just "Real World.")

clemenza, Saturday, 12 January 2019 16:24 (four months ago) Permalink

"In a Free Land" is the greatest

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 January 2019 17:59 (four months ago) Permalink

the gut!
from the gut!

StanM, Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:12 (four months ago) Permalink

it hurts!
hurts so much!!!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:15 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't think there are 15 songs better than "Crystal"

dorsalstop, Saturday, 12 January 2019 18:21 (four months ago) Permalink

"In a Free Land" is the greatest

flappy bird, Saturday, 12 January 2019 19:31 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't think there are 15 songs better than "Crystal"

― dorsalstop,

Perhaps, but there at least 150,000 better openers.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 January 2019 19:38 (four months ago) Permalink

“Crystal” has the last best screams of Mould’s career. There could be no more perfect opener to their major-label debut to silence hipsters and reassure nervous fans.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 January 2019 20:47 (four months ago) Permalink

The build to the last chorus on ' Whatever' is great. Love 'Newest Industry' too, that one just races along.

earlnash, Saturday, 12 January 2019 21:49 (four months ago) Permalink

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