King Sunny Ade and his Afrobeat orchestra on tour (and on disc)

Good question. Thought this thread was reopened because he's gonna do a US tour in June

I'm busy listening to masked Nigerian bandleader/singer/sax player Lagbaja (who is touring the US now) but need to catch up on old King Sunny efforts too

Should I go see him? He's coming around my way this summer....

Yes to Lagbaga and of course to Kingy Sunny. Admittedly I haven't been as wowed by more recent Ade gigs compared to the all-night one way back when, but he still puts a great fairly big band together that know those juju grooves.

The Shanachie label Best of the Classic Years from 1966 to 1974 takes songs from a dozen albums Ade recorded for the Nigerian label African Songs Ltd.

i really love this one though each side runs as a continuous side which makes it slightly annoying coming from a dj perspective. the moog in "she loves me" is sublime.

http://www.discogs.com/King-Sunny-Ade-And-His-African-Beats-Searching-For-My-Love/release/1371674

i mean each side runs as a continuous track.

this one is good too. it's the first record of his to feature hawaiian guitar.

http://www.discogs.com/Sunny-Ade-And-His-African-Beats-Syncro-Chapter-1/release/2324708

I was so lucky to find a decent LP version of the deleted Aura seven years ago.

There's also a sequel to Best of the Classic Years called Gems from the Classic Years that gathers up more 70s material. Both are highly worthwhile.

Visas have still not been processed for King Sunny Ade and the Band so a Hollywood Bowl gig and others have been cancelled --New Orleans, Austin, Dallas, and Jackson , MS too. Shows From D.C. northward are still on, at the moment.

DC promoter says show will happen. We will see

Last time I saw him I don't think he played guitar ...

In 2009 the last time they were in the US, he did not play the guitar because he had just hurt his shoulder

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. They couldn't get the visas approved, so the Howard Theatre tells me the whole tour is now cancelled(DC, NY etc.)

Musician visas are some really vexing bullshit. Seems like every year there's someone who doesn't make it to Winnipeg Folk Fest because of this.

dang, was planning on seeing him next month in boulder...

King Sunny Ade was so great early this morning. At the show near Baltimore, they didn't come onstage till 1 am and were still onstage going at 3:25 am when my wife and I headed out (I had to get up early to work, a long drive, etc). The show was most impressive from 1 am to 2:40 am or so when the 12 piece group plus King Sunny were doing call & response vocals, guitar, percussion, keys and more grooves, and coordinated choreographed dancing. At 2:40 am it was praise song time, with Nigerians coming onstage to throw money at and paste it on King Sunny Ade while also requesting recitation of their names. King Sunny did not play guitar at the beginning of the night or during the praise song portion, but there was a long middle stretch where he did. He's about to turn 70 and was energetic.

The promoter as I mentioned before did a lousy job getting the word out about this gig. There were only around 50 people there (mostly Nigerian) some who paid $150 (regular standing room price was $50). The 3 times I have seen him over the years in DC there was always at least 1,000 there. This gig was supposed to start at 8:30, but the opener Elikeh didn't start till 11 pm.

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Rolling Outernational Non-West Non-English (Some Exceptions) 2016 Thread Once Known as World Music

I just heard Aura for the 1st time tonight, it is amazing.

That's a good one

This is such a jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGxgUAkFl0k

yesssss. one of the best albums ever made.

yknow I've been thinking I wanna get Juju music… but being that it's Island's "we need another Bob M" gambit, is there any sense that it's somewhat cleaned up, sell-outish, for the international market? or would the below be better for a beginner?

https://www.allmusic.com/album/best-of-the-classic-years-mw0000018870

https://www.allmusic.com/album/the-king-of-juju-the-best-of-sunny-ade-mw0000367899

best of the classic years is great too. I just love the dubby early 80s electronic production flourishes on Juju Music. I have a strong aversion to "cleaned up" intl market sht but just listen to it and I'd be shocked if you deem it as such.

All three of his Island albums — Juju Music, Synchro System (my favorite) and Aura — are great, as are the compilations Best of the Classic Years and Gems From the Classic Years. Of the three Island records, Aura is the most "let's make this guy a pop star" — Stevie Wonder plays harmonica on it, and some of the tracks have a very electro/hip-hop sound. (There were even 12" dance singles issued.)

I don't find anything particularly "cleaned up" about it, and I think it's worth questioning the assumption that something exclusively for an African audience would be less "cleaned up" than something aimed at the international market. There's a ton of afropop from the 80s that was primarily marketed within its home country that sounds much "cleaner" to my ears than this record.

That said, I found the Classic Years to be an easier gateway for me back in my college days as a guy whose musical trajectory was classic rock/grunge/hardcore---> jazz ----> rare funk and soul ---> fela

fwiw, some commentary from the wiki article on this very subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juju_Music

When Adé agreed, he was teamed with Martin Meissonnier, a French record producer who advised that the typical long song structures of Nigerian music would not work for Western audiences. Accordingly, Adé divided a number of his Nigerian hits for international release, a task he found unchallenging. He later explained that "In Nigeria, we got used to non-stop recording, about 18 to 20 minutes of music. But over here, the music should be track-by-track for the radio and the dance floor. It's like making a dress. One by one, the different pieces are joined together, but you can still see the lines where they meet".

...

Although Meissonnier altered the song structure, he did not alter Adé's style.[7] To Westerners, Adé's music seemed eclectic, with reviewers of Juju Music commenting variously on the mingling of "the spacey mixing techniques of Jamaican dub" into Adé's "Nigerian polyrhythms",[8] and—even more minutely—on the "echoes of old reggae in its lean guitar riffs, salsa in its Yoruban drum patterns, country in the steel-guitar playing, dub in the music's wide-open holes, folk and calypso in its gentle singing and the Grateful Dead and jazz in its long jams"

^^ this

Re Juju

Juju is a great one no matter what, I mean

Completely agree about the Island records. I love Juju Music the most, the dubby production is super sweet. Aura kind of shades into 80s Miles territory for me -- not a bad thing, but not as smooth as Juju Music or Synchro System. Glad to have the recommendations for the compilations -- I've never heard em.

ok, so I'll get Juju music, but if I wanna get one comp that covers the pre Island shit, which should I get?

Start with Best of the Classic Years; Gems From the Classic Years is a sequel that covers the same era.

If you find a used vinyl copy of Aura, buy it.

A lot of the non-Island albums from the very late 70s and early to mid 80s are fantastic and, while not too dissimilar from Juju Music in basic sound, in a lot of ways are more enveloping listens than the Island albums: The Golden Mercury of Africa, The Message, Check ‘E’, Iyinle Odu, Bobby, Ajoo, Explosion, Togetherness, Sweet Banana.
And that’s not even all of them.

I mean at some level they’re somewhat indistinguishable but that also means you can’t really go wrong. My favourite is Bobby for what it’s worth.

Agreed, Bobby is great. Also a big recommnedation for Searching For My Love.

Having never heard of King Sunny Ade and having no context or knowledge of these kind of sounds, hearing him appear on UK TV around 1982 or 83 (on The Tube) was a genuinely mind blowing musical experiences that left me totally gobsmacked and altered my musical taste forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGmbyRaauog

Revisiting his discography, I find Aura to be his best album. It's not on spotify but the full thing is on youtube. If you haven't heard it please do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_5DDEqghhA

Stevie Wonder plays on the first track too!

It's on Spotify as a twofer with Synchro System: https://open.spotify.com/album/7lGreFI4eAftRKMnXKKjLD?si=kKmnMAhSS9mwpc0Iezy5xA

Aura is so good, in my slsk folder I split it from the Synchro System twofer - which although the latter is good enough, Aura is a standalone classic that shouldn't be twofered!

i agree aura > synchro system, tho it was received poorly at the time in the uk and sold poorly, hence island's quitting the project iirc

the uk constituency for "world pop" in the mid-80s (not that it was called this yet) was often shamingly authenticist and often actually quite patronising in its attitudes -- and i think KSA's filt-tilt exploration of the potential of the most up-to-date new-pop studio tech distressed this crowd w/o finding crossover support elsewhere. it's a pity bcz i think there was a fruitful tension between the collective rhythm-base of juju and the digital clocktime precision of how the studio tech tended to understand its cuts and edits -- i wish he'd been able to explore it more deeply

have been trying to fill out my KSA collection and ordered one of the earlier LPs on discogs. seller sent the wrong disc by accident. so i got this instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt5aKIhzgfo&feature=emb_title

it's ... so fucking awesome.

sry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt5aKIhzgfo

uncle toye ajagun "vol. 3" 1976

a lot more low end on the LP than here btw

Don't know that name but like his juju in the video

Total newbie here. Picked up "Bobby" on a chance and it's really hitting the spot for a mellow yet uplifting listen. Feel like I could leave it on loop forever and not get tired of it. Where should I go next?

Perhaps try some of the other albums from around that era. I’m particularly partial to ‘Explosion’ (that and ‘Bobby’ are my go-to picks) but ‘Iyinle Odu’, ‘Ajoo’ and ‘Togetherness’ are also great albums from that time. The only issue is that it can be difficult to keep them separate in yr head.

Thanks Tim F - I'll seek out "Explosion" once "Bobby" runs its course (that could be a while yet!).

Fela documentary on BBC2 today:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000pr2n

folks: vols. 9 & 10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7vZ5yzYboA&