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Boy the contrast couldn't be more extreme.


Three SONIC YOUTH albums -- 1988's "Daydream Nation," 1990's "Goo" and 1992's "Dirty" -- will be remastered, repackaged and reissued later this year. Each album will include a bonus CD of demos, live songs, outtakes and B-sides. This spring, the group will also release a collaboration with Seventies French avant-pop singer BRIGITTE FONTAINE on their SYR label.

Sonic Youth are hoping to release a new record this spring. "The music has a certain profundity to it, to us," guitarist THURSTON MOORE told Rolling Stone. "There's less kind of straight up weirdness to it. I think it's more fleshed out kind of classic rock material in a way."

nude spock, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The music has a certain profundity to it, to us

It would.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Something about the idea of Sonic Youth out-takes fills me with fear and dread.

electric sound of jim, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

remastered = we admit the production on DN is a bit dodgy, surely?

mark s, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

they don't admit it because they're remastering two albums that are, to my ears, perfectly produced along with it - burying it in the mix, as 'twere

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

that's just cover

mark s, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Note: this is sort of exciting because the demos for Goo are way better than the record itself -- there's a full-length demo bootleg in circulation that makes you weep to think of the time and money spent making something so much worse.

Nitsuh, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

i am curious what bonus stuff they're gonna throw on. the Dirty one especially should be good, if only because Lee's "Genetic" was the best song from those sessions and for no good reason wasn't on the album. and there aren't really any b-sides from DN, so it'll be interesting to see what they dig up, demos or live stuff or whatever.

Goo demos = perhaps the most overrated bootleg ever? i mean, c'mon, "Lee #2" (aka "The Notorious Rockin' Lee") and the long version of "Mildred Pierce" and the short "Dirty Boots" and the cover of "That's All I Know (Right Now)" are cool, but really, lo-fi-ness aside, the performances aren't much different, and i'd personally prefer the 'overproduced' recordings from the album proper any day. the good songs from it, anyway.

I am curious whether they're gonna bother with any other albums or just those 3. i mean, it's obvious why they picked those ones, but it seems silly to just do a few and leave the rest as DGC did them in 93/94. they might as well just hand the whole thing over to Rhino and let them do it right.

al, Tuesday, 15 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Alright, backlash starts here. For years I've mumbled in assent and nodded, and agreed SY are true originals, genii, etc. And yet, this talk of demos etc. seems to have awakened a slumbering subconscious reaction - just HOW are these demos going to sound any different from their 'real' stuff? In fact, how does any of their stuff sound different from any of their other stuff? I'm on the verge of doing a 180 degree turn and going over to the dark side - I've seen them live countless time and each and every occasion, they sucked royally. They were out-rocked by Beat Happening and out-noised by Neil Young, for God's sake! Heaven knows I love noisy cacophony, but not polite coffee-table Tribeca 'cacophony'! For some fucking reason I have seven of their albums, and the only tunes I ever played more than twice were "Silver Rocket" and some tunes from 'Evol'. Oh, and 'Goodbye 20th Century' too, but I suspect I like it because it doesn't sound like their other shit.

So, everyone, you've seen it here first, I turn in my Free Sonic Youth badge. (In Vancouver as a pretentious teen, grimly doing my duty by wearing a 'Goo' tour shirt, I was called a 'faggot' and chased by some white trash wearing AC/DC and Ozzy stuff. Had I been truer to the Rawk and not ran off, I would've shamefacedly doffed the shirt, admitted they were right and taken the asswhipping. Then again, maybe not, but you know...)

dave q, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

Although I don't agree w/ Dave Q, I have to admit I've never heard a gd SY live recording, legit or boot. They always sound like sludge, so the prospect of extra live bonus tracks doesn't fill me w/ joy.

Agree abt 'Genetic' tho' - one of their best ever songs shamefully buried away on a single. I also LOVE their b-side version of 'Personality Crisis', and I hope they can include their cover of 'Superstar' on one of the bonus discs. In fact, I've just realised what a great covers band SY are... 'Hot Wire My Heart' etc.

Andrew L, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

I'm with Dave Q on Sonic Youth's overratedness. I suspect a lot of late 80s guitar freaks like myself would have been introduced to Sonic Youth via "Teenage Riot" and "Silver Rocket" from Daydream Nation. The name of the band was cool, their Snub TV apearance was cool, the weekly music press interviews and features made them a very attractive proposition to a late teen or young 20 something. Me and my mates from the time quickly hunted down EVOL, Sister, Confusion Is Sex and the rest but I think SY were the band that a lot of "hipsters" pretended to like more than they actually did.

I remeber a 1989 Melody Maker Dinosaur Jr live review of a gig in Adelaide where the guy said something to the effect that Dinosaur's feedback always had a direction to go, a proper purpose whereas Sonic Youth's just meandered up cacaphonous cul de sacs. Bug and You're Living All Over Me still stand as powerful masterpieces but I don't find myself getting exited these days by the "coolness" of those 87 - 92 Sonic Youth records.

David Gunnip, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

they're making their good records now = why

(tho sister = fantastic)

they played best show i *ever* saw in my life at ICA in 1982 (but they've been patchy ever since)

mark s, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

they're making their good records now = why

Shorely shome mishtake? (If we're going to revive, let us revive all the way.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

The first time I saw Sonic Youth (on tour for "Sister", maybe) I was blown away. Literally; it was in a small club, I was maybe 12 feet from the band, and I'm surprised I walked out with my hearing intact. I have all their records up 'til "Washing Machine", but I never played the last couple more than once or twice. I like their short, "trashy" rock numbers, but agree in retrospect their feedback is meandering in comparison to old Dinosaur Jr. (what a statement!). Maybe I'll get back into the one day.

Personal to dave q: nice Christgau reference.

Sean, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

ho ho mark s - SY at ICA only show I've ever walked out of! (true)
Pretty sure it was later than '82 tho' so may not be same one

Mention of BF in qn gives me another opportunity to plug her live appearance (guest of Stereolab) at RFH on 1 Feb. Go!

Jeff W, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

mastering actually doens;t have much to do with production per se

g, Wednesday, 16 January 2002 01:00 (sixteen years ago) Permalink

eight years pass...

Rolling Stone on Queens of the Stone Age "Rated R" (Deluxe Edition)

The record that saved 2000s metal"

stfu, they aren't even metal....good album but gawwwwwwwwwd

funky brewster (San Te), Sunday, 29 August 2010 15:43 (eight years ago) Permalink

Grow up

hold me, thrill me, kiss me, lil b (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 29 August 2010 20:12 (eight years ago) Permalink

was kind of hoping this was a whiney revive saying that he got hired at rolling stone


J0rdan S., Sunday, 29 August 2010 20:13 (eight years ago) Permalink

still just a contributor, I guess

curmudgeon, Sunday, 29 August 2010 20:16 (eight years ago) Permalink

if you expect rs to have an informed or interesting take on metal and are disappointed when they dont, the problem is yours

markers, Sunday, 29 August 2010 20:20 (eight years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

“I love my job, I enjoy it, I’ve enjoyed it for a long time,” said Mr. Wenner, 71. But letting go, he added, was “just the smart thing to do.”

The sale plans were devised by Mr. Wenner’s 27-year-old son, Gus, who has aggressively pared down the assets of Rolling Stone’s parent company, Wenner Media, in response to financial pressures. The Wenners recently sold the company’s other two magazines, Us Weekly and Men’s Journal. And last year, they sold a 49 percent stake in Rolling Stone to BandLab Technologies, a music technology company based in Singapore.

Both Jann and Gus Wenner, the president and chief operating officer of Wenner Media, said they intended to stay on at Rolling Stone. But they said they also recognized that the decision could ultimately be up to the new owner.

curmudgeon, Monday, 18 September 2017 18:03 (one year ago) Permalink

i could probably chip in a tenner if we wanna pool some ilx cash and put in a bid

Mr. Eulon Mask, urging the UN to ban the "homicide robot" (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 September 2017 18:59 (one year ago) Permalink

let's buy it and reshuffle the staff so that We Are KING gets a five-star re-review

josh az (2011nostalgia), Monday, 18 September 2017 19:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, I'm gonna miss those five star reviews for Mick Jagger albums.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 01:31 (one year ago) Permalink

The only two people I know there will make out fine whatever happens. Haven't read it regularly since the early '80s. The '70s writers, and the record guide, had a large influence on me, and things like this, as inevitable as they may be, always summon a twinge of nostalgia in me when they actually happen.

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:03 (one year ago) Permalink

I have a copy of the naked Lennon / Yoko issue, thinking of selling, but value varies and not sure if worth it.

calstars, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:12 (one year ago) Permalink

If it's in really good shape, I'd hang on to it; if it's not, probably won't ever be worth much. (I saved that one too, but I think mine's only in so-so condition.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:18 (one year ago) Permalink

Their 500 albums list and their 2004 record guide basically changed my life. I know that's an extremely cliched expression, but those things (esp the record guide) pretty much pushed me down the music-fandom rabbit hole (and im pretty sure lots of other ppl could say the same. yeah the canon sucks and all but it's where so many people started out before they realized there's better songs than Like a Rolling Stone.) So I hold a special place for them, even if the magazine's a total trainwreck.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 04:22 (one year ago) Permalink

personally rn what i care about most is if all goes well for rob sheffield. dude's always interesting even when he's praising something that sucks

josh az (2011nostalgia), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 04:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I think RS is the best magazine money can buy

niels, Tuesday, 19 September 2017 13:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Basically the same for me, josh az. Their 2003 (2004?) "500 album list" was the first such record guide I ever looked at extensively, so it had a big influence on me initially. I still subscribe but my pile of unread issues is becoming an issue itself.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Tuesday, 19 September 2017 19:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Amen. Yeah for what it's worth the 500 albums list is at least a pretty good starting guide. You see familiar faces in the beatles and nirvana, but then you go deeper into the book and see some band called My Bloody Valentine that apparently makes music out of "noise" and it's like nothing you've ever heard before.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 03:07 (one year ago) Permalink

Speaking of which, I'm gonna miss those five star reviews for Mick Jagger albums.

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more Allegro-like (Turrican), Wednesday, 20 September 2017 16:06 (one year ago) Permalink

five months pass...

can someone either (a) tell me where the search is on or (b) explain to me why there's no search on ?

alpine static, Friday, 9 March 2018 01:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

They removed it in an effort to make their rockist history unsearchable

F# A# (∞), Friday, 9 March 2018 01:13 (nine months ago) Permalink

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