Search and Destroy: Main and related projects

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I started to kinda like Motion Pool.

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

search: loop! loop! loop! and then main's "hydra-calm." and then move towards "hz" cautiously. in a sideways manner. and then maybe check out (possibly DESTROY) the firmament series, but they're pretty dull.

he also did some idm thing. chasm, i think.

your null fame, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Firmament dull? Wash yer mouth out with soap.

Anyway. Loop = great, but Main is definitely much more of an acquired taste. I agree that starting with Hydra-Calm is a good approach, as that's the most accessible the band ever was -- unsurprising given that it was the first release after Loop's breakup. Firmament II is my favorite of that specific series. There's a new collaboration out with Antenna Farm as well, while Chasm's material, what I've heard of it, is Most Cool.

Loop's rhythm section went on to form the Hair and Skin Trading Company, who are more conventional but still oh so rifftastic.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Silly me, I thought this was a broad, generic S&D on any artist's a) main project and b) related projects. Struck me as a thread that was bound to become rather long. Right. I'll go away now.

OleM, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I was going to say that the Ligature remixes album was probably my favourite record for a few short weeks in '96, until I realised that I was conflating it with Scorn's Ellipsis, which I also loved.

The former introduced me to Jim O'Rourke (epic 13-minute Ligeti transformation of Suspension and Paul Schutze (lovely thick gurgly treatment of Heat Realm), and latter had a smashing Autechre mix on it and the thoroughly hilarious* Keitel'n'Price-sampling Laswell slow black underground river mix.

(*: I find this sort of thing funny = I am not a goth).

Michael Jones, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Italics be gone.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see I'm making a fool of myself in this thread.

Michael Jones, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I like the Main i have (Motion Pool) but if I ever investigated Paul Schutze on the strength of his track for Isolationism and the rest was up to that standard I suspect I'd like him a lot more.

Tim, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

OK, so what are these projects all about? The Firmament series is less 'accessible?' If that means it's less tied to song structure and goes more into exploring guitar and electronic textures I might find it more interesting. Loop was sort of a shoegaze group right?

sundar subramanian, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Shoegaze? God no. Head-nodding, yes. A more overtly evil Spacemen 3 at the start, then even more fucked up as it went.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i remember getting sent firmanent iv (i think) and, even as someone who is quite 'into' deconstructed forms of music (david lynch, nurse with wound etc) i have to say it was the most god-boring thing i've ever heard.

david, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I think the secret with Main -- it only occurred to me after I had enjoyed them for some years -- is Hampson's obsessive focus on rhythm. It's just not always apparent, but it's there, and if you let yourself get lost in it, then everything really clicks. Won't float everyone's boat, though.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

really like the "corona" single. early ones i heard reminded me too much of sisters of mercy b-sides. if you have a modicum of shite machinery you can do main yrself w / out too much effort (save plugging in all the jack plugs) although i'm kidding myself & main do it miles better & i would never be bothered to try these days but then i nevr actually listen to main either . i remember thinking hampson's rattling's on organum's veil of tears was good tho.

bob snoom, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I also have Motion Pool (I wonder if people on this list all bought it after reading a certain Meloday Maker article by The Patron Saint of ILM?) which I didn't listen to for a while but really liked after listening to it for the first time in ages recently.

Regarding Paul Schutze, Tim, Apart is superb. The first CD is shorter isolationist (lots of, erm, rings and clings) pieces whilst the second CD is longer pieces, so quiet the music is hardly there (in a good way). should be easy to find as it's on Virgin - part of their ambient series. Another essential Virgin Ambient purchase is the Sufi album (Rudi from AR Kane and his sister, I think).

Robin, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

don't you find paul schutze's "trumpet" noise a bit casio, though?? that & the compositions are all just one key wonders. other than that great oh apart from that new age situation specific wittering

bob snoom, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I wonder if people on this list all bought it after reading a certain Meloday Maker article by The Patron Saint of ILM?

Dangerous to draw assumptions there -- I first got into Main by picking up Hydra-Calm back in 1992, and I was already a Loop fan.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
i just spotted firmament ii for 8 bucks, firmament iv for 6 bucks, and the hertz eps at $18. where do i start? (and don't say "get the lot"...).

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 17:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Get the lot. Starting with the Hertz EPs, since that's a lot of music for a good price. Both those Firmaments are most grand as well.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 22 October 2002 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
i broke out the hz double cd today, it's "groovy"

Ô¿Ô (eman), Sunday, 17 July 2005 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

How is Firmament III (which just showed up in my local shop)?

ilxor, Saturday, 14 March 2009 05:34 (eleven years ago) link

Fuck me Dry Stone Feed is a fucking brilliant, otherworldly piece of work.

ilxor, Saturday, 28 March 2009 05:17 (eleven years ago) link

you've just persuaded me to put Dry Stone Feed on for the first time in about 5 years. And you're right.

Duke, Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

just realised I can listen to all of this on spotify, sweet since my record player is having troubles.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

Don't have Firmament III, btw, so can't make any recommendation. I only have the Hydra and Calm 12"s, Dry Stone Feed and Motion Pool.

At the time it was released (1993?), Motion Pool came with a coupon you could send off for one of 200 7" singles. So I'm also the proud owner of Core (organic) 7".

Duke, Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

Firmament III is an excellent, excellent work. Highly recommended.

I seldom pass on tea now. (libcrypt), Saturday, 28 March 2009 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

God this album rules.

ilxor, Sunday, 29 March 2009 01:06 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

"hydra-calm" is really, really good late night driving in the rain music.

GOVERNMENT TRASH QUEEN ON A THRONE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 27 September 2009 14:42 (ten years ago) link

bought first Hz cd because i liked the cover. bought the rest because i liked what i heard. all from hmv in hemel. only other thing i have is motion pool.

firmament cds seem to be going for a premium on, but they're are only charging 79p for all of the mp3s even the 25 minute ones, so Firmament 2 is £1.58, 1 and 3 are twice that but 4 is £8

koogs, Sunday, 27 September 2009 18:10 (ten years ago) link

Ooh thanks for pointing this out. I had a $2 Amazon credit which expired on 9/30.

Alex in SF, Sunday, 27 September 2009 21:51 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Main Play Primavera

Currently playing live gigs as a duo with sound artist Stephan Mathieu, Main are appearing at Primavera Sound (date TBC) and Tanned Tin (Feb 3), both in Spain.

The band will also record new material in Spring and have enlisted the help of Gordon Sharp (Cindytalk), Mark Spybey (DVOA) and founding member Scott Dowson.

Derartu Cthulhu (NickB), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:38 (eight years ago) link

wow, great news. shame it's not Loop, but you can't have everything.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 09:51 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

New Robert Hampson is out now on Editions Mego

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:20 (seven years ago) link

Hampson's a character on Facebook.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 14:27 (seven years ago) link

Shame he didn't call it a Main album, would have got more interest that way.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:32 (seven years ago) link

link? xp

Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 11 June 2012 14:33 (seven years ago) link

Oh just search him on there and subscribe to his updates. He's just a forthright character.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 June 2012 14:46 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

repercussions is great

sisilafami, Friday, 20 July 2012 16:28 (seven years ago) link

six months pass...

New Main album on its way:

Jaap and roids (NickB), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:04 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

ha, was just going to post that there's a review in the new Wire.

wait, he's called them I, II, III and IV? are they reworkings? 8)

koogs, Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:47 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

Had missed this recent interview; informative read

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:42 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Now that I don't have to run fans in my apartment all day long (yay fall!), I can listen to quiet music occasionally. Pulled out Hz this afternoon. I have the 2CD set, but used copies of the fancy 6CD version in the box are pretty cheap on Discogs, so I might swap.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:57 (seven months ago) link

Good to have in either incarnation. Learning that Ed Ackerson (RIP) of Polara was a major Main fiend is putting a sad smile on my face today.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:58 (seven months ago) link

the cretin hits the cast (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:57 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

Through Ned's fb I stumbled upon a big freebie by Robert Hampson, three mixes called BALLARDISM. In Hampson's own words:


Greetings all Soundheads

In this time of severe crisis, I hope this finds you all, your families and friends well and safe.
I’m not going to get political really, tho’ I really fucking want to.
But now is not the time for division.
It is the time to think of ourselves as a collective.
To look after all who we care for and also complete strangers.
Our lives as we have known them... are gone!
That’s it, no refunds.
When this microbe is dead, and a vague sense of stability will start to form, every one of us will have to accept that the old ways are dead.
Time to move on and hopefully make this planet a bit of a better place.
The way we live, think and thrive will be fully dependent on all of us.
And that, will only make sense when we make sense that fundamental changes are absolutely necessary now.
There’s just no fucking other way!

I personally love being on my own, I am very used to my own company.
I can easily spend weeks and not talk to a soul.
But for those that find it tricky, there are always people there for you.
I have suffered from crippling depression in my life, which thankfully doesn’t really stay around for so long anymore.
I get a little black puppy instead of a hound from hell. It’ll tear up a few things, be a bit of a pain in the ass, shit in the corner... but it runs off without too much effort these days.

If you feel like it’s all too much, you have to talk to someone, even if you feel it’s the last thing you need.
I promise you, it does help.

Whatever happens, this is not the end.
It can be a new beginning.

To keep you company, I’m going to release a piece called Ballardism (Corona Mix)
Yes, I’ve copped the title in reference to J G Ballard.
Yes, it will be in keeping with what is going on at present.
But please don’t think of it as too dark or depressing... it’s a thought piece for want of a better word, reflective.
Yes, Corona mix is copped off Fontana Mix by Cage.

It won’t be earth shattering.
It might even contain semi-recognised sounds for some of you.
It’s a mix but it’ll be unique.

Play it for company, just think you’ve got a bit of down time with ol’ RH for a while.

More details to follow very soon.
Keep ‘em peeled!

Wishing you all safety, health and a feeling that we’ll beat this fucker


You can download them for free here: Robert Hampson - BALLARDISM (CORONA MIX)

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