― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
next two favorites:BiogenesisE = a = b = a + b
favorites / thoughts?
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
the CD of their collaboration is coming out this year I think...
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― monster vitamin water, Monday, 28 February 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link
But Adnos, even beyond the intrusive surface noise, there's a high frequency on Adnos I that just gives me a dealbreaking headache; the cycling test tones on Adnos II are hypnotic but if you're in the wrong mood they can seem too simple. About 40 minutes into Adnos III, it turns a corner into a beautiful 30 minute stretch that foreshadows where she went with Trilogie de la Mort -- if I were an iTunes listener I could just skip there more often...
― (Jon L), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link
her two new records are only available through mail order. 'Elemental II' is a live piece for solo bass & delay, based on an earlier graphic score of hers from 1968. this version is as much the player's (Kasper T Toeplitz) piece as Radigue's. sounds like a good room recording. http://www.sleazeart.com/rosa.html
'L’île re-sonante' is another tape work; similiar to previous ARP synth works like the 'Trilogie', but the pace is strangely faster and actually has a concrete section, a chorus layered hundreds of times. and the ending is particularly powerful, when she arrives at the last note, you really feel it, it's final. this is the one of the two I'm listening to more. http://www.shiiin.com/
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
i like trilogie, but i only really ever listen to the final track, koume, which is very rich sounding.
i only just heard e=a=b=a+b, and i hadnt thought of it as angry insects, a flurry of mechanical birds was what came to mind, for me. i like it, though, i do like things that seems like you are out in the woods.
― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 15 April 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link
I'd love to hear more of the 60's all-feedback-collage work, I hear they're great. I made myself a 50 minute mix of 'e=a=b=a+b' in pro tools with two stereo tracks, varispeeding the two sides to 16/33/45/78 and it definitely works.
& yep, 'koume' is an amazing ending to the set.
Charles Curtis played a new piece of hers for cello a few months ago at Mills. I had to miss the show but my friend Marc said it was fantastic, even though with large public shows there's always the danger of the casually interested starting in with those 'I'm bored now' coughs after about thirty minutes
― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 15 April 2006 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
took the main award for digital music for 'L’île re-sonante'
― milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:13 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.rootstrata.com/rootblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/eliane_radigue.jpg
from root strata
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 30 October 2008 04:24 (fifteen years ago) link
would marry.
i only know Adnos I-III, where next?
― ian, Friday, 31 October 2008 01:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Is that her?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link
open image in new window / yes
listened to Jetsun Mila last weekend on headphones while hiking the Pacific coast. that & L’île re-sonante are the ones I listen to most often the last two years -- all of Trilogie d'la Mort is almost too heavy to casually throw on.
her new acoustic piece Naldjorlak for Charles Curtis' solo cello -- his sound is fantastic. there's something difficult about it that hasn't had me reaching back for the disc too often, I'm waiting for the right time. but it's a lot better than the CD of 'Elemental II', her previous piece for an instrumentalist. Charles Curtis is basically the man for this kind of sustain. & the packaging is beautiful.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 11 March 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Question with potentially no evidenceable answer: What's more difficult, landing a woman as serene and beautiful as Radigue or getting Shiiin to sell you a copy of any of their albums?
― matinee, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, isn't she kind of old?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link
she's still serene and beautiful
I've only ordered the two Radigue albums from Shiiin, but all I had to do was e-mail and paypal and they showed up about 2-3 weeks later.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:47 (fifteen years ago) link
I've tried writing a couple of times over the years with no luck. Guess I could try again. How long ago did you do that?
― matinee, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Never heard that lappetites stuff, any point? Wasn't Ikue Mori involved or did I make that up?
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link
lappetites record is Ryo Co, Kaffe Matthews & AGF using a handful of Radigue's 60's pieces as source material for a jam. you can hear a bit of 'E = a = b = a + b' at points, other things are transformed. I remember thinking of it as a good document of a decent studio improv session, but I prefer Ryo Co's solo records.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link
& I ordered / received Naldjorlak last November. didn't have a problem, though lots of people of IHM agree he's really bad with email
keith's got 'em: http://www.mimaroglumusicsales.com/labels/shiiin.html
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 March 2009 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link
ah pause, he doesn't have L'Ile re-sonante. & that's the one I'd invest in before Naldjorlak. worth it.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 12 March 2009 01:08 (fifteen years ago) link
http://vimeo.com/4163955
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link
love this footage.
― original bgm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:00 (fourteen years ago) link
trying to understand french is giving me a headache
― ❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link
http://die-fremde.blogspot.com/2009/10/in-beginning-there-was-certain-music.html
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:45 (fourteen years ago) link
the two new archival releases on Important, both fantastic -- 'Tryptich' is the one I'm playing over and over, from 1978. Recorded between Adnos I & II, but to me way better than either, it's just got the thing
'Vice Versa Etc.' is a 2 CD set of a single tape of a deep drone, each CD 4 tracks, the original tape played at 3.75 / 7.5 / 15 / 30 ips speed. first CD plays the tape forward, second CD plays the tape backwards, and it really comes to life if you do what you're supposed to and play the two discs on different stereos at the same time, different tracks against each other. great piece if you do that, but takes a bit more participation than 'Tryptich' to really launch
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 October 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ok last night I did the work and set up 'Vice Versa Etc.' with each disc on its own player on shuffle play, and it must be some kind of masterpiece. completely different overtones come out of the tape at each playback speed, even though they're technically just octaves apart. the simplest things in the world are the hardest things to describe
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:34 (fourteen years ago) link
hmm thanks for the info, i'm going to order these this weekend. like someone else above i've only heard 'adnos,' really excited to hear more. wish i understood french! (assuming the IMA piece is?)
― Unisom beeitchs. (Matt P), Thursday, 8 October 2009 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.junkmedia.org/index.php?i=2602
crosstalk from the i hate music thread here, which is filled with great postshttp://ihatemusic.noquam.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3617
― Milton Parker, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
just ordered the important discs. excited to finally hear these.
― original bgm, Friday, 19 February 2010 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link
http://boomkat.com/vinyl/370918-eliane-radigue-jouet-electronique-elemental-1
not that this kind of music isn't inherently analog, but listening to those hissy vinyl clicky sound samples, releasing this vinyl-only is just frustrating
the pieces themselves sound fantastic -- other people got around to sounding like this later, but it really does sound like the most lasting works usually come from the people who were first to the field
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
I typically go for vinyl if the option exists, but yeah, it may not be the best fit with a sound as simple and pure as eliane's. haven't listened yet but I have the same reservations.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link
those clips sounds excellent though!
― original bgm, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link
heh. they SOUND excellent that is.
― original bgm, Wednesday, 9 March 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
listened to jouet electronique yesterday afternoon. wonderful. especially love the subtle, rhythmic feedback modulation during the side a coda.
and I'm not sure if it was just my copy, but it did seem like a bit of a noisy pressing as well. didn't distract me much but ymmv.
― original bgm, Monday, 28 March 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link
well, it appears I'm not the only one with this problem. from a review on the discogs page:
Massive amount of surface noise on brand new LP. Persisting after 2 professional vacuum cleaning...Do record plants ever make test pressings anymore before releasing albums?
a bit annoying for a pricey lp.
― original bgm, Monday, 4 April 2011 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.soundandmusic.org/projects/triptych-music-eliane-radigue
― Milton Parker, Monday, 6 June 2011 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
Interview with Eliane Radigue (by Paul Schütze) in the new issue of Frieze:
http://www.frieze.com/issue/article/surround-sound/
― geeta, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
That picture of her with the seashell.
Must admit I was getting to be wary of whether I was personally going to listen to another early archival release after 'Tryptich' & 'Vice-Versa', but I've been listening to 'Transamorem – Transmortem' a lot the last six weeks. Very intense & piercing even for her, but very very focused. About half an hour in, when the high tone occasionally does that little quiver, it feels like a physical push
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link
Frieze is kicking ass with the electronic music coverage--they have The Wire beat for sure
er, not that I'm biased, or anything
― geeta, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah? what else have they published lately?
besides that very fine schnitzler article, that is. :-)
― original bgm, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
listening to 'trilogie de la mort' right now because of this thread ((((d-_-b))))
― queen latifah approximately (donna rouge), Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
what else have they published lately?
here's a max mathews interview i did: http://blog.frieze.com/max-mathews/
i've written many other pieces for them, but they're not all available online--you have to buy the magazine. i have three big articles on the way, all dealing with electronic music, but i have a hand injury which is slowing me down a bit
but anyway, back to eliane radigue: my friend keith is hanging out with eliane in paris at this very moment
― geeta, Wednesday, 5 October 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link
nice one. thanks for heads up on the article.
and good for Frieze, because i've found the art world to generally have shockingly unsophisticated and horrible taste in music (all those parties with camp-retro-irony djs who play 80s hits and mainstream disco)
― zoom, Thursday, 6 October 2011 06:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, thanks!
― original bgm, Thursday, 6 October 2011 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
just listened to transamorem - transmortem and...
About half an hour in, when thehigh tone occasionally does that little quiver, it feels like a physical push
...yes!
― original bgm, Saturday, 8 October 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
loved this bit from that interview:
I ’ve been working alonefor so much of my life. My only assistanthas been my cat .I would always know something was wrongwhen she made a face , but when she wasvery quiet I’d just carry on .
― original bgm, Saturday, 8 October 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
my cats approved of transamorem btw
― original bgm, Saturday, 8 October 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
reissue of geelriandre / arthesis on senufo editions is out.
'arthesis' sounding particularly lovely to me right now.
― original bgm, Sunday, 20 November 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
trilogie d'la mort on has been on repeat for the past two weeks while i read / sleep / do yoga etc
― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Friday, 9 September 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link
and sit and eat chocolate and nuts like i'm doing right now.
― until the next, delayed, glaciation (map), Friday, 9 September 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
finally accepting orders: http://www.shiiin.com/shiiineer1.php
also, Issue #1 of Blank Forms has published Ian Nagoski's 1998 interview with Radigue originally intended for the cancelled Halana #5, and it is a particularly interesting interview. whole issue solid, Amacher cover story too.
http://blankforms.org/magazine/
― Milton Parker, Monday, 16 October 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
second volume is Occam Océan for Orchestra
the slow bank into the final third is a sound I haven't really exactly heard
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 20 June 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link
New to this, 'Trilogie De La Mort' is just amazing. Which one do I check out next, or is it simply "all good"?
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 20 June 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
she's consistent, though each work is just distinct enough so everyone has different favorites. so the 14 CD INAGRM box that came out last year can't be beat.
there are now three distinct periods, feedback (1960~1970), synthesizer (1970~2005), acoustic (2005 onward). the box covers the synth period minus 'Transamorem - Transmortem'. The Alga Marghen label put out three compilations of the early works, 'Feedback Music' is a good start, the two 'Occam Océan' CDs are probably the place to start with the acoustic.
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 20 June 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
Been listening to Geelriandre / Arthesis on YouTube as I was considering buying the vinyl reissue on Important Records. Does anyone know if it comes with a download? I’m suspecting it doesn’t.
― I am using your worlds, Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link
Just picked up the Adnos trilogy. Looking forward to diving in later.
― Duke, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
have been mesmerised by Occam Ocean 2 today.
― calzino, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
Eliane Radigue is the motherfucking bomb y'all forever in my heart and soul
― À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
Aw :) Which one(s) are you turned on by atm?
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
I listen to Trilogie a *lot*
― À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
extremely powerful music
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link
It's mindblowing stuff.
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link
agreed all around, her work is monumental. and recently read this book, and would recommend.
― bridge of donkeys, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link
https://www.lespressesdureel.com/EN/ouvrage.php?id=7465
― bridge of donkeys, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
Interesting indeed. And I had no idea Les presses du réel published English-language material.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
book is fantastic, Eckhardt gets her to go into detail on every single piece. lots of insights into early inspirations and the early feedback / pre-synth work. and lots about Occam Océan 2 for orchestra, which she does the same way she writes for individuals - she meets with every single member of the ensemble for at least a day, has them demonstrate their instrument and she builds up from there
still playing Occam Ocean 2 a lot. there isn't anything like it. in a sane world there'd be reviews.
― Milton Parker, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
I think the only place I saw it reviewed was on an obscure free jazz blog
― calzino, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
That book looks great
There is so much going on in her work in such a subtle way
― À la recherche du scamps perdu (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
I feel like listening to it in my kitchen on my hundred quid speakers is not doing it right. Can only dream of kitting out the Rothko Chapel with a state of the art sound system and listening to it full welly!
― calzino, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
in my tentative and unschooled opinion music actually doesn't get any better than Eliane Radigue
― umsworth (emsworth), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:36 (three years ago) link
yeah for real
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link
Trilogie is one of my top discoveries from the ambient albums poll
― paolo, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 07:39 (three years ago) link
Some fool obviously didn't think much of "Jetsun Mila" so I picked it up secondhand for less than a fiver. Sweet!
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Monday, 3 May 2021 10:26 (two years ago) link
(... also "Una Lucertola con la Pelle di Donna" by Morricone, maybe a different fool though).
― Authoritarian Steaks (Tom D.), Monday, 3 May 2021 10:29 (two years ago) link
90 years old today
― Josefa, Monday, 24 January 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link
looking forward to hearing her first organ work Occam XXV when it comes out in March.
― calzino, Monday, 24 January 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link
This month's The Wire has a good Primer on her discography. It had an interesting factoid that it's only recently that she's developed a significant discography.
― Johnny Mathis der Maler (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 24 January 2022 15:32 (two years ago) link
https://vimeo.com/541076521/d661c359f7
short doc here
― calzino, Friday, 28 January 2022 08:17 (two years ago) link
NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/arts/music/eliane-radigue-music.html
― ernestp, Saturday, 5 February 2022 02:56 (two years ago) link
It's a total beaut
https://organreframed.bandcamp.com/album/occam-xxv-2
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 March 2022 22:21 (two years ago) link
there's a live performance from a couple of years back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jdHIHzvhkQ
― i don't even own a bestseller (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 March 2022 09:34 (two years ago) link
Already sold out! Hope there will be a second run.
― atonar, Saturday, 5 March 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link
In other news the 14 CD INA/GRM box set is back in print.
https://boomkat.com/products/electronic-works
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 06:49 (two years ago) link
That's a really nice package but I just recently purchased Adnos I-III and Trilogie de la Mort as stand-alones, so I think I'll pass.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 13:04 (two years ago) link
(xp) ... as is Bernard Parmegiani, "L’œuvre musical en 12 CD", because I've just ordered it.
― Alfred Ndwego of Kenya (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link
Thanks for the heads up. Also bought the Parmegiani. This is the kind of classical music I buy on BoomKat.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 14:57 (two years ago) link
Indeed it is and I found a pretty cheap copy of it online and ordered it ... only for it to be caught up in a dispute between Parcelforce and this hellhole of a local post office of mine. Basically someone at the post office has stolen it and they're desperately trying to cover their tracks by denying they ever received it, Parcelforce are just pointing to their records and saying they did. Did. Didn't. Did. Didn't. Did. Didn't. Did. Didn't. Meanwhile, I'm stuck in the middle, having spent almost as much on phonecalls as the value of the box set (quite literally) with no prospect of ever receiving it and not much more prospect of ever receiving any compensation for it. I would call the British postal service third world but that would be insulting to most third world countries.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
Can't wait until the postal thief puts it on and wonders wtf he stole.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 21 October 2022 08:48 (one year ago) link
With a bit of luck they'll return it as faulty.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 21 October 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link
To me. In person. It's an unusual crime, for sure.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 21 October 2022 09:24 (one year ago) link
An old friend of mine who was a postie in the 90's did a couple of years in prison for that. I can't remember if he was stealing mail or he just couldn't be arsed delivering it but they threw the book at him. He was living at his brother's house and due to a misunderstanding the cops broke his brother's door in after a couple of unanswered welfare check visits and then saw a pile of undelivered mail next to a post bag and reported it straight to the Post Office. After that I always assumed mail/parcel theft by postal workers was perhaps too risky to be a common sort of crime.
― calzino, Friday, 21 October 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link
This hasn't been stolen by a postie it's been stolen by one of the staff at the post office branch.
Apparently parcels are constantly going missing at this post office. I think they rely on the fact that so many of their customers don't know how to go about making a claim. A lot of their clientele don't have very good (or any) English language skills or are ancient and/or unlikely to have sufficient knowledge/ skills/ support. Also there's a lot of transitory residents in this area. It's no a service, it's a cash cow for a bunch of cynical crooks.
There used to be a nice big post office on Holloway Road - well run and with helpful and knowledgeable staff. That got sold off and is now a B & Q. Instead we ended up with this utter shithole which has been run by a never-ending stream of shysters and cowboys ever since
The place is completely desolate, there's nothing in it apart from a photo booth machine that no-one uses and a couple of dilapidated shelves with some diaries for sale sitting on them. And the inevitable mobile phone shop. This is in area where the rents are completely through the roof despite being an absolute dump.
If you ever want to see a metaphor for the UK in 2022, visit this place. Just don't get any mail delivered there.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Friday, 21 October 2022 10:18 (one year ago) link
Guess what was waiting for me when I got home tonight? Turned up just as mysteriously as it disappeared. Just as well as last time I checked it was on sale for twice what I paid for it.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 31 October 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link
Yay! "A letter always arrives at its destination"
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 11:46 (one year ago) link
Neither snow nor rain nor sludge nor drizzle nor the wrong kind of leaves on the line stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds, they just like to take their time
― zeuhl's forgotten man (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link
To be accurate, the couriers did their job two weeks ago, it was Holloway Post Office who "couldn't find it" and claimed till they were blue in the face that they'd never received it in the first place.
― Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link
Yeah I went to that place once, never again! Good to know The Drone lives to fight another day though.
― zeuhl's forgotten man (Matt #2), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link
This Sunday:
https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/contemporary/eliane-radigue-exploring-occam-rhodri-davies-friends/
Preceded by:
https://www.kingsplace.co.uk/whats-on/contemporary/gavin-bryars-at-80/
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 12:42 (six months ago) link