drummer on Skylarking

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Who is it? As far as I can tell there is no one credited. Anyone know?

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dude from the Tubes, isn't it?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Prairie Prince, no?

bettin' on squirrels, Monday, 28 February 2005 20:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Quite possibly. There is a cryptic bit in the credits name checking him. Thanks people.

kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's not just him though I think, there was another one. Plus, programming.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Bunny Williams on the Studio one version? Santa on the Striker Lee cut?

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Prairie Prince on XTC's. Mullygrubber's answer on Horace Andy's.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Being obvious there. Sorry.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I care more about Horace Andy's version.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

TS!

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Prairie Prince also plays on Apple Venus and some of Wasp Star. His drumming on Skylarking is really great.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I hear a LOT of LinnDrum on Skylarking, but yeah, I think the live stuff is Prairie Prince.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 February 2005 22:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I care more about Horace Andy's version.

Jamaicaist.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Jamaicaist.

BAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Jamaicaist."

You know IT!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't like Jamaica. Whoa no! I love it!

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

If XTC had a regular rhythm section I might like them more.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

if xtc employed the aggrovators i might enjoy them more.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 01:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I believe he was (and is) the drummer in Todd Rundgren's band, which is how he ended up on Skylarking.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 14:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

drumming on "Earn Enough For Us" is so nice

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 19 April 2008 05:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

"the part of the time bomb was played by..."

nabisco, Saturday, 19 April 2008 21:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

been revisiting Skylarking a lot lately and just got bowled over once again by the drumming on Man Who Sailed Around His Soul.

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:52 (three months ago) Permalink

Prairie Prince does cool airbrush paintings

brimstead, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:01 (three months ago) Permalink

it's just stunning that they tracked the whole record without drums and put them on last. because yeah, the drumming is fantastic throughout, particularly on "Earn Enough for Us."

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:29 (three months ago) Permalink

also the secret ingredient on 'My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts', turning all those pieces built out of loops into things that no longer immediately sound like loops. also a completely solid person, which sure helps when it comes to this whole music thing. still touring with Rundgren live, as well as festivals with the Tubes.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:41 (three months ago) Permalink

"release the tapes!" the public cries, "release them now!"

Dominique, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:50 (three months ago) Permalink

it's just stunning that they tracked the whole record without drums and put them on last.

Yeah, I was fucking stunned when I learned this - I'd always assumed that the drums were tracked live to a click along with the drum machines/samples etc. but I never would have guessed the drumming had gone on last. It's such a backwards way of recording, and I'm surprised P. Prince got it to sound so natural - especially given how quickly and cheaply the record was made by post-1982 XTC standards.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:10 (three months ago) Permalink

ABCs Lexicon of Love tracked drums last, iirc. The final mix is a mesh of programmed and real.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:20 (three months ago) Permalink

Oh, Def Leppard's Hysteria or Pyromania - maybe both? - were drums last, too!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 23:21 (three months ago) Permalink

The Lexicon of Love was done using a method that was a bit like tracing, everything was programmed up first to get the arrangements down and then gradually replaced with "real" musicians to get the performances super tight.

Hysteria I think was all electronic drums out of neccessity.

Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:17 (three months ago) Permalink

Even before that! From Tape Op:

You and Mutt were trying something truly revolutionary, compared to the way rock drums were being recorded at that time.

The previous Def Leppard record, High ‘n' Dry, was recorded with real drums. On Pyromania, Mutt wanted to be experimental and leave the drums to the very end. He would keep changing the arrangements, so therefore the drum parts would need to keep changing. We had to figure out how to sync that up. It was on the cutting edge, but somehow we managed to put it all together. Take "Photograph," for example. Like all the other songs on the record, the song's drums were all samples from the Fairlight. There are no real drums. The cymbals are played, but the bass drum, snare, and toms are all machine. We had all kinds of drums in there, and I sampled them into the Fairlight and detuned them. We'd sample them in at half-speed, thinking that we'd get a better sound, because that's when Fairlight was at 8 bits – you had to get around that part of it. We sampled Black Beauty snares, other snares, and all kinds of bass drums. We ended up with something that Mutt liked that we could detune a little bit. When we were sampling in the sounds, we used KM 84s and we used 58s. There were so many mics. The toms were primarily Simmons toms back then, which were electronic. We experimented, EQ'd, and mangled the sound up a little bit to come up with the drum sound. It was pretty unnatural, but that was kind of the point.

The Fairlight seems like it basically became like another member of the band. What kind of role did it play as you got near the end of tracking?

We were recording Pyromania on 24-track, and we spent a lot of months on that record. By the time it came to mixing, the tape was peeling off in 2-inch pieces. It became clear from the intensity of working on a record like that, going over and over and over, blocking out backgrounds, changing arrangements, and all that. I'm surprised we ever got it finished, because the tape literally fell to pieces. It was experimental; we were using a Fairlight, trying to sync that whole thing up and work like that, and we hadn't figured out ‘til the end how we were going to do the drums. So even when "Photograph" was about to be mixed, Mutt decided to change the chorus. Songs would evolve, and he wanted to have control until the last minute of what the feel was going to be. Rather than commit to the drums, and have to re-cut them and re-cut them, he thought this was a better way to do it. I don't think anyone had done it before, but we decided to give it a shot – scary as it was – and we just went on blind faith. It was more about being able to change the arrangements at the last minute, which was very important to him.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 19:28 (three months ago) Permalink


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