"Self Control" by Laura Branigan

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There was the RIP thread for her but someone it's only taken a relistening of the song right this second for me to realize that it was Laura Branigan who sang the damn thing. I must have known and forgotten. So when will the post-electroclash/Electric Six world cough up a cover of this?

"I...I live among the creatures of the night!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link

more or less the same song as "she's lost control" by joy division, only better. and scarier.

chuck, Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, I guess you haven't heard the Marc Almond cover yet?

Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

I still know the lyrics by heart, even though I've never even owned the song in any form. An absolute classic.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

*plotzes* How the HELL did I miss a Marc Almond cover of this! But now that I think about it I know he's done a few one-off singles recently I haven't caught, so that must be one of them. Came out last year? This is starting to ring a bell or two.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, it is good to see that my plea had already been addressed by one of the best people possible, woohoo!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:26 (sixteen years ago) link

You're making me sorry I didn't grab a copy of this last time I saw it.

You got reggaeton in my salsa

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

it's a whopper, that's for sure. for the longest time, i never knew the title. i used to think of it as creatures of the night a la tuxedomoon. (they could have done a good cover too.)

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:31 (sixteen years ago) link

who produced it? it's all about the production. what with those massive guitars and drums.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned, the Marc cover is with Replicant, some electro DJ. It's fine, not as perfect and menacing as the original, though. Actually, listening to it again now, it's kinda phoned in. And it could certainly use a few more power chords. You'd think they could come up with some huge fake ones, but no. Not nearly as good as his "Total Eclipse" cover, that's for sure!

Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:36 (sixteen years ago) link

According to google, somebody named Jack White produced it! No wonder "Danger! High Voltage!" always reminded me of "Self Control", ha ha.

Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link

a lot of her stuff had pretty spectacular production! everything was very distinct and popped right out at you, yet it all moved together.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

So, this Jack White is German and his other production jobs include work with Engelbert Humperdink, Al Martino, Paul Anka, Vicky Leandros, Jermaine Jackson, Tony Christie and David Hasselhoff.

Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Sounds like the master of swank to me. We should do a taking sides of him vs. Frank Farian.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 February 2005 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Jack White also produced the uber-classic "When the Rain Begins to Fall" by Jermaine Jackson & Pia Zadora.

Dan Selzer dropped "Self Control" when he spun at the Repellent party at Rothko in December. I immediately went over to give him the love that he deserved for playing it, and he pointed out that it's pretty much a straight Italo track (on the slow side, no doubt). It's all about that bobbing bass line and the melodrama, see.

Rich (Rich), Sunday, 27 February 2005 23:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd like to hear t.A.T.u. cover it.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:59 (sixteen years ago) link

It actually originated as an Italo track, by RAF - Laura B's version is a cover. ("Gloria" was also an Italo cover, incidentally.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 28 February 2005 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I seem to remember Jonathan King doing a cover of "Gloria" with different English lyrics a couple of years before LB's version. You are not missing anything, readers.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 28 February 2005 13:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I was never a fan, but I'm always sort've impressed how this song has like three discernable choruses. Seems like she could've saved one or two of them for other songs, no?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i tried to think of an excuse to play this on my radio show every week when i used to have one. (not that i needed one besides "uhh it's totally great.")

joseph (joseph), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Chuck, so OTM!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link

something i posted to my blog a few years ago:

Laura Branigan - Branigan (1982)

Obv. enough to me and everyone else that Laura Branigan was a sweet starry-eyed kid from the Hudson Valley, but the early '80s being what they were (i.e. that popcult upheaval sparking wild and unruly transitions-syncretisms between hard rock and momndad ballad schmaltz and the burgeoning Supermotivated Eighties Asshole sound and whatever savvy Italian producers could salvage of disco), her handlers still dressed her up for the photo shoot in rokkchikk tartwear: black leather pants, firetruck-red buttoned-down blouse, tousled unwashed hair. Same thing happened to Sheena Easton somewhere between "Morning Train" and "Sugar Walls." Same thing happened to a rash of girl singers in mid-late 2002, in the wake of the trash-rock revival, the critical mass of mash-ups' popularity (hip-hop and dance choons legitimized by RAWK -- rock is the imperialist USA to nonrock's "needy" third world), the impact of VH1 Classic's retrofitted "Rock Fest" on the lives of digital-cable subscribers.

Which proves that this stuff happens in 20-year cycles.

But thank goodness for industry pressures; otherwise the pop world would remain as myopic and boring as the uninformed constantly accuse it of being. Branigan sounds like it looks, and it looks like its release date, so even if Branigan herself wasn't actually the kind of pseudo-Italo-country-Meatloaf-Benatar she was modeled to be (and why would she be, come to think of it?) (oh and in addition to the above reference points, on the glam-boogie "Down Like a Rock" her voice has an odd '70s-Yoko echo treatment), at least the pitchmen weren't bullshitting us about what we could expect. If the front cover didn't tell you enough (white-on-red raised italic lettering, Ms. B posing rockstarishly with legs semi-splayed, against a smoky grey background), flip it 'round to the back liner notes for reassurance:

"Braniganwas produced in Los Angeles by Jack White with the help of Greg Mathieson. They employed top musicians, including Toto guitarist Steve Lukather, bassists Lee Sklar and Bob Glaub and synthesist Michael Boddicker. The leadoff single, "Gloria," is an Italian pop song with new English lyrics by the albums musical contractor, Trevor Veitch. The successful follow-up single, "All Night With Me," established a ballad style which has served Laura Branigan well."

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

(p.s. you might know michael boddicker as the composer of the buckaroo banzai score)

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link

more or less the same song as "she's lost control" by joy division, only better. and scarier.

Todays it the day when I will set Chuck's facial hair on fire. My lunch break starts in about an hour, Chuck, so you've got a head start.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 16:56 (sixteen years ago) link

As mike t-diva points out above, "Self Control" was co-written by Giancarlo Biagzzi, Raffael Riefoli, and Steve Piccolo, the Italian songwriters who also co-wrote her first hit, "Gloria." I always preferred "Self Control" to "Gloria." The melodrama and the bombastic perfection of the production blew everything else on the charts at the time out of the water, and believe me, 1984 was not a year with any shortage of bombastic productions.

Another thing not often recalled is that the video for the song was banned from MTV because of a "suggestive orgy scene."

ffirehorse (firehorse), Monday, 28 February 2005 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Vh1 Classic plays it ALL THE DAMN TIME.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, didn't realize that. I can see "Self Control" all the time getting old.

ffirehorse (firehorse), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

That makes me wish I got VH1 classic!

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

do they leave the "suggestive orgy scene" in?

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:17 (sixteen years ago) link

How could it be any more or less suggestive than the "Wild Boys" video, say.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Dedicated Marc fan that I am, even I have to admit his version isn't a patch on Laura Branigan's. Or RAF's.

davidsim (davidsim), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't remember so much a "suggestive orgy scene" as a "suggestive lez-up" scene while Laura is dancing (and it looks rather forced and decidedly non-sexy, but y'know...)

It makes Rick Springfield's video for "Human Touch" look like Stanley Kubrick.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

man this takes me right back to the roller rink.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, it looks an awful lot like "Eyes Wide Shut," complete with horny strangers wearing masks. I'm not even joking.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I have fond memories of this song because the first time I got to see Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Rockstar showed me this tape of film and TV clips (lots of Miami Vice, Scarface, etc...) that inspired the game set to "Self Control"

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

It saddens me that she didn't write this tune herself.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link

another song this reminds me of is "touch me" by samantha fox.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Even I'll suggest that it's better than that, Jody.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't Branigan also do a cover of "Der Kommisar"? Or did i dream that?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Even I'll suggest that it's better than that, Jody.

they're about equal.

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"Touch Me" is shamelessly brilliant.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"i was BEGGING for you!"

jbr (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:45 (sixteen years ago) link

did Samatha Foxx have song called "Hurt Me Hurt Me (But The Pants Stay On)"? That maketh me giggle.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Is it the "Touch Me" video where a rapper guy steps out of nowhere to do a two-finger point into the camera and bellow, "Sa-man-tha FOX!!!!!"

If memory serves she was a "Page 3" girl.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

That video would be "Naughty Girls Need Love Too," which contains donut debonair's all time fave lyric by anyone:

"NO MORE FUN AND GAMES OF THE MOIND!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

actually mark, i think the rapper is on "I Wanna Have Some Fun". but you're OTM with the Page 3 point

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

oh, is it? shit sorry

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 28 February 2005 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't give a fuck about Laura Branigan, but compared to Samantha Fox, she's practically Kate Bush.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 00:10 (sixteen years ago) link

After that RIP thread, I listened to this song again and surprisingly it didn't do much for me. Maybe I was confusing it with another one of hers that came earlier than that. Still haven't heard her cover of The Who's Squeeze Box. Really should seek that out.

Eyes Wide Shut was such a disappointing film.

Samantha Fox!? Ha ha. Puhleez.

I've been having these random thoughts about Pat Benatar lately, though. Have no idea why. Man I used to really love the Precious Time album. Haven't heard that in eons. Her husband was such a fabulous guitarist. Can't remember his name just now. Whoops sorry, this is a Branigan thread. Continue...

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

All this talk and no video?

Eazy, Thursday, 3 April 2008 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nw-V5eEeAk

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:33 (three years ago) link

let's try that again ^ that isn't the full video, it's a video/live mash up thing.

here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av03KxdoO0k

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 20 April 2018 17:35 (three years ago) link

Wearing white as you’re walking down the street of my soul

the article don, Friday, 20 April 2018 18:36 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Wow, that hockey thing!

― aluminum rivets must not be proud of their plastic bosses (Jon Lewis), Monday, April 23, 2012 11:11 AM (seven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Very prescient!

(Just saw the self control video for the first time and wow, love it. Also her version of "Power Of Love" is quite raw.)

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 20:49 (two years ago) link

This song rules, such a formative part of my childhood radio listening years.

BTW:

Harold Faltermeyer worked on the Branigan version

My pal and I were joking the other day about this period in pop music when you know certain cats (talented/genius or not!) were getting a lot of work because they were literally the only ones that could program, let alone that owned, whatever brand new synth was in vogue. Like, Harold Faltermeyer, Jan Hammer, Herbie Hancock, Thomas Dolby ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:31 (two years ago) link

that greg guy that covered "behind the mask"

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:43 (two years ago) link

love this song like family

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:44 (two years ago) link

xpost Oh shit! Yeah, Gregory Phillinganes.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 21:45 (two years ago) link

One of the best songs of all time. Half of the lyrics have been quoted here already, but damn: “I must believe in something / so I'll make myself believe it / this night will never go”. Cue Röyksopp & Robyn’s “Do It Again”.

As mentioned upthread, the extended version of the Raf original features what must have been one of the earliest examples of Euro rap: “keep shaking, money making / to the beat that’s so heartbreaking”. Indeed.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:14 (two years ago) link

(and don’t get me started on Jack White (né Horst Nußbaum). What a career trajectory! From playing professional football/soccer (for PSV Eindhoven!) in the 60s to giving German Schlager a much needed kick up its butt in the early 70s, injecting it with some glam, pop and pure joy (for people like Tony Marshall and my beloved Jürgen Marcus), to producing these Laura Branigan hits as well as “As The Rain Begins To Fall” in the 80s, to (according to German Wikipedia at least) being instrumental in making Daddy Yankee’s “Gasolina” the first international reggaeton hit fifteen years ago.

breastcrawl, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:15 (two years ago) link

Through the years I have found more and more that I prefer the Raf oruginal.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 12:17 (two years ago) link

For some reason I've heard this song 3 times on the radio in the past month and I love it again. Also, it has the most extraordinary 80's video I've ever seen.

akm, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 13:02 (two years ago) link

Am amazed how nobody on this thread has mentioned that Pulp ripped this song off wholesale for the equally awesome Disco 2000.

My pal and I were joking the other day about this period in pop music when you know certain cats (talented/genius or not!) were getting a lot of work because they were literally the only ones that could program, let alone that owned, whatever brand new synth was in vogue. Like, Harold Faltermeyer, Jan Hammer, Herbie Hancock, Thomas Dolby ...

Wally Badarou too.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:12 (two years ago) link

Love this hard banging 80's sound (up there with Kim Wilde's 'Keep me hanging on')

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:13 (two years ago) link

xp Ned mentioned it in the RIP thread

Classic song obv.

Le Bateau Ivre, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 14:18 (two years ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 15:31 (two years ago) link

I love "Gloria" and "Self Control". What other songs get this vibe? "You Keep Me Hanging On" is a great one. I'd add Donna Summer's "Protection" and Bonnie Tyler's "Holding Out For a Hero" from a few years later. Other suggestions?

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 10:28 (two years ago) link

Tell It To My Heart?

Siegbran, Thursday, 18 July 2019 10:39 (two years ago) link

"Gloria," there seem to be a lot of aerobic '80s songs that fit that vibe. "Self Control" is darker and more mysterious. So vibe-wise, along with the usual Italo disco suspects, there's stuff like, I dunno, "Send Me an Angel," by Real Life, maybe?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:11 (two years ago) link

I don’t know the usual Italo suspects!

L'assie (Euler), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:21 (two years ago) link

Stuff like this, I guess:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcwYp0musC8

Also, this one (not Italo) is very "Self Control:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMPR6Ujop4k

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:31 (two years ago) link

You can also look for stuff by Scotch and Kano, I guess, among other Italian disco suspects. Other people here know that stuff better than I do.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:34 (two years ago) link

I think 'Don't Pretend to Know' by Tapps kind of fits?

Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:35 (two years ago) link

hmm, I dont really agree with most of these suggestions. What I dig about Self Control is the hard rock/quasi-goth sound spruced up by 80s electro. There's a relentlessness to it that makes it super badass. I dont think Visage or Taylor Dayne have that hard sinister vibe.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 July 2019 12:43 (two years ago) link

Hazel O'Connor, Eighth Day?

The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:13 (two years ago) link

(a bit less rock, a bit more goth - see also Drowning in Berlin)

The Pingularity (ledge), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:18 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGVZOLV9SPo

Funky Isolations (jed_), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:18 (two years ago) link

Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes
Sunglasses at Night - Corey Hart

enochroot, Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:19 (two years ago) link

Sandra - In The Heat Of The Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4kHR5SNB5Q

Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Thursday, 18 July 2019 13:49 (two years ago) link

How about Matia Bazar’s *Ti-Sento*?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4JwenFloWk

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:02 (two years ago) link

Sandra is a good suggestion (although clearly not as great as Self Control).

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:09 (two years ago) link

How about Caroline Loeb "C'est la ouate"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oyrsite2Ck

...and perhaps Gina X "No GDM"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUUlaXETebI

...Off "Electrica Salsa"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6wglhklKg

...Propaganda "P.Machinery"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=660ZCEhvbnw

...and Eighth Wonder "I'm Not Scared":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PYqUHfTMA

mike t-diva, Thursday, 18 July 2019 14:42 (two years ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

Oh christ, I'm going senile. Yes, you're right.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 18 July 2019 16:53 (two years ago) link

Ginny - “Can’t Be Serious”, maybe?

brimstead, Thursday, 18 July 2019 17:18 (two years ago) link

What a track that is

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:34 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

What other songs get this vibe?

Sheryl Lee Ralph - In The Evening

That drop into the chorus...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfoKoF4o6tU

There's a video but it's too jolly and belies the vibe.

Noel Emits, Monday, 12 July 2021 13:52 (three weeks ago) link

FWIW, the break in "In The Evening" synchs very effectively with the rap intro to Chaka's "I Feel For You".

mike t-diva, Monday, 12 July 2021 15:20 (three weeks ago) link

Pulp certainly did rip off a Laura Branigan song for "Disco 2000" - but it was "Gloria", not "Self Control".

Oh christ, I'm going senile. Yes, you're right.

It's an Umberto Tozzi song, originally.

AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 July 2021 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

the Insane Clown Posse cover is worth checking out too

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Monday, 12 July 2021 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

The Cheryl Lee Ralph video is so insane.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Monday, 12 July 2021 21:12 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bgv54jROII

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 01:15 (three weeks ago) link

can't believe nobody has mentioned that one group from Detroit yet.

wanna say they wore makeup and had stage names and a devoted group of fans.

and they did this song?

not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 01:27 (three weeks ago) link

Intersting takes - and two absolute favourites. I took the question to mean musically, but I like this interpretation of lyrically sharing the subject of the culture of the club.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 11:40 (three weeks ago) link

they play a prominent role in the video as well!

xp

ten man poland chasing this means hamsik feasts (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 12:52 (three weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf17bkp5EL0

the 1996 remix of "In The Evening" is the sound of every bottle of poppers ever being opened

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:11 (three weeks ago) link

I must have heard “In The Evening” every time I went to a gay club for at least a year (roughly late 84 to late 85), and it got to the point where I thought I never wanted to hear it again. But then Horse Meat Disco started reviving it in the mid 00s, and it sort of unexpectedly renewed itself; if I heard it out now, I’d be thrilled. (A similar thing happened with “Finally”, although it’s usually me who’s playing it out.)

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:17 (three weeks ago) link

I'd love to hear it out now too, it's taken on a real urgency over lockdown

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:22 (three weeks ago) link

I'm surprised Valerie Dore didn't get a look in in this thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ssUKt76-c

chinavision!, Tuesday, 13 July 2021 22:58 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHrsv0NVa6k

Marianne Faithfull - Broken English

at the darker cruising through the city at night end of the vibe

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 28 July 2021 16:12 (six days ago) link

good one

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 21:55 (six days ago) link


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