Where is the love for EGG, KHAN, ARZACHEL, CARAVAN, and assorted STEVE HILLAGE projects?

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I already had The Polite Force, and I just bought the first album, thus completing my EGG collection.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

ugh Caravan

hillage of course invented ambient techno and wz resurrected

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I've heard some Caravan I like, but even the stuff that's okay is kind of too twee for me. Steve Hillage solo has always struck me as boring (even when I liked this sort of thing a lot more). I remember hearing about Egg a lot, but I can't remember what they sounded like. Maybe I will dig out my tape from a radio Carvan special, with lots of live material. (I think this might be some of the stuff that has been reissued on CD recently.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i only recently found some steve hillage (motivation radio and L) and i've been enjoying them immensely- weird enough, and not just fucking around. i'm pretty illiterate when it comes to this whole scene. example: i have never heard any of the other bands mentioned here, and only a little bit of gong. where should i go next? i'm really into the weird guitar/analog synth parts...

deru, Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link

i love arzachel.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 26 February 2005 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link

"Rainbow Dome Music" is an amazing synth & guitar ambient / drone / psych LP...

Russell (Russell), Saturday, 26 February 2005 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll say this much, if you dig on Gong's Radio Gnome Trilogy, Hillage's "Fish Rising" is a must-have. Great, great stuff, very much so Gong by a different name.

I have to admit that I was disappointed when I finally heard Khan, since the Space Shanty album's been touted as such a lovely thing by some people I know. BUT I shall pop it in from time to time, and maybe it'll grow on me (There was after all a time when I thought Gong's "You" was kinda boring. Now it's a top-10 album for me and total bliss)

As for Caravan, they had their ups and downs, but for me the highlight is the very twee "In the land of grey and pink" with its wonderful keyboard tones and flippy-floppy little pop songs (with assorted prog-fringes)
The band's next album was kinda dull, but I never played it much, so it might have a chance to grow on me. The next after that, For Girls Who Grow Plump, things started sounding a bit tepid, really. There's some very cool stuff, like the fun "Cthulhu cthlu" (or whatever it's called) but it's far from a favorite.
Generally I'd say that people should hear Land.. and If I Could Do It All Over Again, and then explore the others if they -really- dig those.
Incidentally, when "For Richard" fluffs up that big octave-hop keyboard riff...! One of my favorite rock-out moments in prog, it is!
(that's NOT meant to be damning with faint praise. Hey, it's the genre that brought us Magma and Ruins!)

Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 26 February 2005 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve Hillage has gone on to get very involved in producing Arabic performers (though I haven't liked the results I've heard).

RS, Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, mostly rai type stuff, I guess, which is kind of Arabic and kind of not, I'd say.

RS, Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(This would be a good thing for Sourpuss and I to have a pointless argument about.)

RS, Saturday, 26 February 2005 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the work he's done with Rachid Taha on his last several albums. Including a cover of "Rock the Casbah" with Brian Eno!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 26 February 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Naming LPs with puns, C or D (The Civil Surface was the other one)? But I like Egg. Kahn is kind of easy-listening jazz-lite but I liked it too. I'll second Fish Rising and L has its moments. Caravan was always a little twee for me as well, but I like some it. Never heard Arzachel.

nickn (nickn), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

holy crap -- you're right, I forgot all about The Civil Surface! so I guess my Egg collection is *not* complete. I still have to pick up that one.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Kahn is kind of easy-listening jazz-lite
shaaah? What? "Space Shanty"?
Man, different perspective sure are something.

Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Not enough talk about Arzachel here?

admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Also I like Caravan

admrl, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

arzachel is about the only band out of these that i'm really familiar with, still. i still love them, my wife put them on a mixtape back when we were trying to impress each other with coolness (she won).

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, your wife out-progged you?!

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

arzachel so great. garden of earthly delights is a tremendous pop song to boot

electricsound, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

if a chick outprogs you the law is you have to marry her on the spot

max, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

not much love for caravan? "the dog, the dog, he's at it" just gave me a contact high

kamerad, Wednesday, 8 September 2010 23:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Egg is the best of these bands for me, and if we're talking Dave Stewart projects where indeed is the love for NATIONAL HEALTH?

the same relation to machines as that which machines have to man (Matt #2), Thursday, 9 September 2010 00:14 (thirteen years ago) link

here's some love for both the epics on the self-titled, "tenemos roads" and "elephants." sort of glad this little corner gets ignored, since there's something refreshing about revisiting stuff like this that hasn't been subjected to the revival treatment

kamerad, Thursday, 9 September 2010 01:40 (thirteen years ago) link

This thread's revival last week inspired me to pull out my copy of The Best Of Caravan: From 1970-1974 (London 1978, only LP I own by them, probably bought it for $1 once upon a time), and turns out, if these tracks are at all typical, they were kind of funky for a prog band -- especially "Aristocracy," which I could totally dance to, but also sort of "If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You" (which could almost past for Can/Kraut-rock I'd say) and parts of the nine-minute "Memory Lain, Hugh Headloss." Also like their jazzy spans (woodwinds? French horns? no idea -- no instrument credits on this LP despite fairly long liner notes, and I'm too lazy to look it up right now), probably not a surprise given their apaprent Canterbury (as in Soft Machine) origins. The twee whimsy of "Golf Girl" makes me laugh -- "I chahnced upon a golf girl who was selling cups of tea," vedddy "Cups and Cakes." Anyway, I've always sort of confused them with Camel before, but I think maybe I'm starting to be able to tell the difference.

xhuxk, Monday, 20 September 2010 13:47 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I really love Fish Rising. Listening to L for the first time right now (found it on wax for two bucks!) - it's just OK so far. The track lengths and the titles and the presence of Don Cherry had me excited but some of this gets a little 'guitar hero' for me (I don't mean the video game). Maybe it'll stick on the second pass. Of the Hillage I've heard though, Fish Rising stands head and shoulders above the rest (even the much-celebrated Rainbow Dome Music, though I will say 'pioneering ambient / synth / new age' records are, generally speaking, usually not my deal).

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Saturday, 20 July 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Live Herald is almost a perfect album. Pity about the "Hurdy Gurdy Man" cover.

Wimmels, Monday, 7 September 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

HAven't listened to caravan enough recently. Only thing I've heard recently has been the Zappa jam from the Amouges festival since there wasa torrent of the Zappa jams with different bands from the Festival.
I have the full Amouges Caravan set somewhere and it's pretty visceral for them

I have the cover of In The Land of Grey and PInk on an A4 print on the wall behind me. Nice drawing. very Tolkien or something.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 September 2015 22:49 (eight years ago) link


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