Artist/Band you just "don't get"

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What artist do you just not "get", you don't believe the hype, you can't get into at all, and can't stand to hear much less listen to?

For me it has gotta be Joanna Newsom. WTF her appeal is is beyond me.

tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard Joanna Newsom, but a simple glance at the cover of the SF Bay Guardian should give you ONE reason for her appeal.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Modest Mouse. The purported brilliance of The Moon & Antarctica seems like a big joke everyone is playing on me.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

she looks gross on that cover.

tk (tk), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I never got the appeal of Frank Zappa, Devo, Captain Beefheart, or any other self-consciously wacky artist. More recently, I can't get into Death From Above 1979, Franz Ferdinand, Iron & Wine, or Bright Eyes. They just aren't doing it for me.

Oh, and Radiohead lost me at "Kid A". Can't get into anything they've done since.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Off the top of mon tete:
Oasis
The Smiths
50 Cent
Eminem
Jay Z
Metalica
The Animals
Blind Melon
Skinny Puppy

OK, I'll stop. Actually I do "get" why somebody might buy into each of these, but I "don't get it".

peepee (peepee), Friday, 25 February 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link

For the life of me I can't understand the appeal of Xiu Xiu or Arcade Fire, my friends really were into their latest albums and it was just beyond me how either were even listenable.

rebecca hampton (r h), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Newsom sounds exactly like Ralph Wiggum. playing the harp. what's not to like?

Led Zep
Flaming Lips
Mercury Rev

heresies all, i know

Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Talking Heads, Joy Division, Led Zeppelin, Television.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

hey, two zep votes within a minute of each other, all right!

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

What is there to get about Led Zep???

()ops (()()ps), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Not getting Led Zep is crazy. Not liking 'em okay, but not understanding why they are revered WTF? It's patently obvious, isn't it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

hah! Joseph - we were there on Led Zep then you named three of my favourite bands!

Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:21 (nineteen years ago) link

i understand that Led Zep are important, but i am at a loss as to why, really. i feel like i must be missing out.

Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link

That boggles my mind. My answer to this, well one of them, is Joy Division/New Order.

W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Everyone loves to say that "you either hate x or you love it!" and I usually hate that phrase since x equals everything, but I really can't think of it being more true for any artist than Joanna Newsom. And I hate her.

Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:25 (nineteen years ago) link

someone please explain the appeal of Joanna to me. please. is cutesy cool now? wtf.

tk (tk), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Every generation deserves the Melanie that it gets.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:34 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.sfbg.com/39/20/art_music_joanna2.jpg

zappi (joni), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Apparently she looks "gross" in that picture.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Suicide.

Elvis is Dead, Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i would. as long as she doesn't sing. or speak, if her speaking voice sounds like Ralph Wiggum too. that would be creeeepy.

Lee (fsharp), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex
This is the one I thought you were talking about ... hey, if you think she's looks hot, my bad.

http://www.sfbg.com/39/20/cover_box.jpg

tk (tk), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh that was the interior pic. My mistake. Either way though I think even from that less than flattering cover pic, it's easy to see what people might "see" in her.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 26 February 2005 00:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get:

Spiritualized
Kraftwerk
!!!

darin (darin), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link

(*guidedbyvoices*)

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Heh. Harp Throb.

Bent Over at the Arclight (Bent Over at the Arclight), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

errr...i don't see what's to be seen in her...

AleXTC (AleXTC), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Zappa
Talking Heads- To an extent. Byrne always comes off to me like a bit of a jerky, self-absorbed NY intellectual.

Cunga (Cunga), Saturday, 26 February 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Pere Ubu. I've tried, but it's just not going to work out between us.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Guided By Voices
Gram Parsons
The Replacements
Oval

a banana (alanbanana), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Neu!
Faust
Kraftwerk
Henry Cow

Joe (Joe), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago) link

The Mars Volta (I never quite got At The Drive In, either)
Pavement
Yo La Tengo
Belle & Sebastian

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 26 February 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Ornette Coleman - Live at the golden circle volume one
I dig 'The shape of jazz 2 come' and 'Change of the century' but am having trouble with 'Live at the golden circle'.

Morg, Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Wait, are you people proud of not understanding what other people hear or see in a performer you don't like?

That said, I don't know what interests people in Ashanti, whom I don't loathe or even dislike but I find hard to care about.

Richard Marx. I don't loathe him either. In fact I think "Hazard" is a great song. Which confuses me even more, since everything else he's done has passed by me with zero impact.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link

XTC. Sorry. :(

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 26 February 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Strokes (dull)
Interpol (duller)
Silkworm (dullest)
The New Year/Bedhead (zzzzz)
Arcade Fire (mediocre to the core--no wonder so many love 'em)
Decemberists (annoying-as-hell vocalist, ugly, stumbling music)

121 onions (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

not their entire output as i like the first two albums, but three or so listens down the line, i can NOT get into third/sister lovers by big star. everything that everyone seems to like about it (i.e. disjointedness)) is what puts me off of it. i'm sure this won't stop me from trying again at some point in the future, though.

joseph (joseph), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Joanna Newsom looks beautiful on that cover. And I'm pretty indifferent toward her music, though I love that song "Sadie"

anyway - i don't "get":

John Lennon solo (aside from Working Class Hero and Jealous Guy)

any of the Bastro / Squirrel Bait / King Kong stuff

Red Krayola (actually I do get it but i think they suck)

a good deal of M.I.A's album (just definitely NOT "Pull Up The People" - that song rules)

Merzbow

Antony & The Johnsons

Loretta Lynn

Joy Division

Le Savy Fav and Enon (God knows I've tried)

"grime"

Elvis Costello

Tsunami (except "Geniuses of Crack")

Teeth of Lions Rule The Divine

and many many many more. None of these are artists I *dislike,* you understand - these are all artists / genres that I have TRIED to appreciate at one time or another, for some reason or another.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 26 February 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Ok, I'm baffled by the ultra-enthusiasm Girls Aloud generate (online at least).

They're incredibly ordinary. I'd add dull, crass, horribly overproduced, need better tunes (even S Club 7 had the decency to provide some). Sigh. I suppose their best tunes must be on the albums or something.... The singles start to actively bore me before they have even finished (1:30?)

Beatles > Oasis
Spice Girls > Girls Aloud


And I don't even like the Spice Girls.

itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

< obligatory >

I'd still do Nadine though

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itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I really tried with Zappa but I can't stand him.
Guided by Voices, but more in a "meh" way.
Replacements.
Most UK indie post-1992.

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Jazz.

dmun, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Dylan. How could I forget Dylan?

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Guided By Voices
The Flaming Lips
The Libertines

molly, Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Shit.. I suppose they are better than Westlife but I still have trouble finding any reason for them to exist with so much other good r'n'b pop and just generally more exciting pop out there which also has the attitude that seems to get people creaming over them so hard.

itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

everything else on the whole thread I can find vague reasons.. except fot Henry Cow (haven't heard any... I guess 'Hipster Cred' would be a shoo-in).

Do Girls Aloud remind older guys of top 40 stuff they heard growing up? Is that it, nostalgia?

Ok, I've thought about it far too long already.

itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's because they release lots of totally awesome out of control Panzer-attack pop songs.

Had your ears syringed lately?

Ferlin Husky (noodle vague), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm thinking I need to hear them over a club soundsytem a lot louder than I want to to 'get' that feeling from them.

And be at least a decade younger, possibly female.

Otherwise they just seem utterly by numbers. Not so much out of control as just 'fairly fast' for the Top 40.


I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion round here!

totally awesome out of control Panzer-attack pop songs

"They're Not Gonna Get Usssss!!"

Ooops.. wrong band.

itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

"totally awesome out of control Panzer-attack pop songs."

Hehe. Does the NME like them too?

itchy bits (itchy bits), Saturday, 26 February 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

patti smith, good call. eh.

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 26 February 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

The Orb

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 27 February 2005 00:43 (nineteen years ago) link

A few days ago I would have said Talking Heads, but I've finally accepted that David Byrne just feigns neurosis for acceptance in artsy circles (same with Thom Yorke...no wonder Radiohead named themselves after a Talking Heads song!) and now I'm starting to enjoy them a bit more.

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Arcade Fire
Polyphonic Spree
The Magnetic Fields
Björk

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 27 February 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Fiery Fucking Furnaces.
Jay Z.
Frank Zappa (for some reason the Barnes & Noble near my house has 25 Zappa reissues but not 1 Nick Drake album.)
Conor Oberst.
and The Buzzcocks. Singles Going Steady has 2 or 3 cuts worth another listen. What the fuck.

PB, Sunday, 27 February 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Bands I don't dislike, but don't see why they inspire such hysteria- Pavement, the White Stripes, Interpol, Belle & Sebastian, the Killers.

Don't get the appeal of the Futureheads at all. Seems so pointlessly manic. Or the Libertines. Can't stand the Cure. The only rational explanation for my hatred of the New Pornographers would be that their music was playing when something horrible happened to me, but I've suppressed the memory.

TayBridgeCatastrophe (TayBridge), Sunday, 27 February 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Basement Jaxx. All trance.

The tendency to pick bands that are hugely critically adored seems contrived to me.

Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Singles Going Steady has 2 or 3 cuts worth another listen.

what

f ath, Monday, 28 February 2005 02:30 (nineteen years ago) link

(for some reason the Barnes & Noble near my house has 25 Zappa reissues but not 1 Nick Drake album.)

Because Drake sells even less than Zappa? Because Zappa has 75 CDs and Drake has 5? Because Drake offed himself after 3 studio albums and Zappa busted his ass releasing 2 or 3 a year for 30 years?

Don't Ever Antagonize The Horn (AaronHz), Monday, 28 February 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

Def Leppard

sleeve, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Whitney Houston. Some people on ILM act like she's unassailable!

uncrut gems (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link

you haven't read enough alfred or djp posts about "so emotional"

american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 January 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

I have "how will I know" in my head every day so she obviously did something right.

akm, Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:14 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

I thought Daft Punk was supposed to be, like, bangin' techno with rock influences?

wtf is this poppy gloss with guest singers?

what am I missing?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

check out alive 1997 + second half of their first album

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

rock influences? hmmm “human after all” has a kinda of rock vibe but it’s a strange album... try “steam machine” and “the brainwasher” maybe

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

thank u my man, I knew I could count on you

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

Et Joostice Pour Tous
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Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

wtf is this poppy gloss with guest singers?

disco?

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link

definitely! but not really what I was expecting.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

emerson lake and palmer i have geiven them many chances but i do not like anything they did!

xzanfar, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

emerson lake and palmer i have given them many chances but i do not like anything they did!

xzanfar, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

The Frogs

Evan, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

real fuckin assholes that band

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

Anything vaguely post-punk recorded on the UK between 1978 and 1981 is like catnip to me but I’ve tried and tried and do not see the appeal of Swell Maps and Young Marble Giants.

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:04 (three years ago) link

Aw really? I think Nikki Sudden said the Swell Maps were best appreciated as a cross between T Rex and Can, but of course I disagree with him.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

Never noticed much T Rex in there.

Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

Nor Can, tbh.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

There is def a stylized aloofness about Sudden's schtick that I could see as his take on Bolan, but...

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link

No, Can's definitely in there. "Full Moon In My Pocket" uses the bassline from "Mother Sky" for a start.

Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

emerson lake and palmer i have given them many chances but i do not like anything they did!

― xzanfar, Wednesday, February 24, 2021 3:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

perhaps try Emerson, Lake, and Powell instead

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

"Don't Throw Ashtrays At Me" etc.

Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

I never noticed that about Full Moon/Mother Sky, seems obvious now that you mention it.

I get that Can are an inspiration for their background clatter but it's done to such a different effect.

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

Jowe Head's vocal on Full Moon is a charicature of Damo I guess?

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

It’s weird I love Nikki sudden/jacobites/epic’s solo material but can’t get into swell maps

brimstead, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link

What I love about them is mainly gonzo adolescent lunacy, the cliquish camraderie of their interplay, comic book-like onomatopeic clanging and clattering, an affectation of elegance in entirely the wrong context...

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link

(xp) Well, they're not similar at all.

(xxp) No, I think he just can't sing very well.

Punk's not daft (Tom D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

"Big Empty Field" is the one Swell Maps song that has blown me away, and that one (and that one only, mind) really reminds me of This Heat--I admire their scrappier stuff but it hasn't stuck with me in the same way.

Kangol In The Light (Craig D.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

I think it's just that the Maps are best understood as part of a pre-punk/proto-punk context that includes said artists, Krautrock, the Velvets/Stooges, etc, and IMO that's an easier point of entry than the postpunk scene they were part of

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

Swell Maps fans - I've heard the two proper albums and liked about half of each. They have a bunch of compilation/outtake type records that I'm wary of. Are these on the level of the albums, or for completists only?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

for completists, mostly, IMO, once you have Marineville and Jane and some of the singles in some form there are diminishing returns unless u are a true fan

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

this one is good:

https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Train-Out-Of-It/release/326625

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

I don’t care for the comps (stuff is remixed, etc.). I love the first album, can leave everything else — so maybe I’m not the fanniest “fan.”

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

The singles tracks don't seem to be collected together anywhere as far as I can tell, they're scattered on those compilations, which is an irritant.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

The Peel Sessions are also hot sh!t. They’re on YouseTube.

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

^^ very true

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

and xp to Halfway yes and there's STILL one single that's not on CD afaik:

https://www.discogs.com/Swell-Maps-Real-Shocks-English-Verse-Monologues/master/246556

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 25 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link

I think it's just that the Maps are best understood as part of a pre-punk/proto-punk context that includes said artists, Krautrock, the Velvets/Stooges, etc, and IMO that's an easier point of entry than the postpunk scene they were part of


I like all those things too! Sadly doesn’t help. Oh well.

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

xp Real Shocks is on both Train Out of it and International Rescue CD comps

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link

Nm you mean english verse and monologues dont you

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link


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