Spoon, "Gimme Fiction"

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now that its leaked to p2p networks, im sure a few of us have listened to it.

me -- i think it rules, but im biased. i unabashedly love anything spoon puts out.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:27 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

you complain of my diction..

i'll have to check this out later tonight

6335, Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:35 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I haven't really loved anything Spoon's done since Telephono, and even that had weak spots. So I've got no idea whether the fact that I'm liking Gimme Fiction so much means they've changed again or that what they do finally clicked with me.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh, they've changed things around again. this record isnt as deconstructed as KTM -- in fact, the production's quite slick but without sounding overly commercial.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like Spoon better when they are more like early Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson. This record is nice, but the songs aren't as strong. Still a lot better than the pre-Girls Can Material, though. I figure this one may be a grower, but I doubt I'll ever love any of this stuff like I love "Take The Fifth," "Anything You Want," and "Something To Look Forward To."

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:40 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

err, "Girls Can Tell material"

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That said, there's nothing on the record that I dislike.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Gimme Fiction is the Squeeze to Girls Can Tell and Kill the Moonlight's Elvis Costello and Joe Jackson? Perhaps.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You think so? Classic Squeeze is so much catchier than any of this stuff. How do you figure it's like Squeeze?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It's hard for me to conceive of a better Spoon record that KtM, so I'll try not to expect it.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, this is like Sweets From A Stranger Squeeze, not Cool For Cats.

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Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:49 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"I Turn My Camera On" sounds a bit like "Emotional Rescue." "Sister Jack" sounds like Wilco when Wilco is alt-country and dull rather pretentious and catchy.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So it's not full of catchy hooks, spare, perfectly arranged guitar/keyboard parts and amazing sounding drums?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"I Summon You" is awesome.

darin (darin), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:53 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Ah, I guess that makes a bit of sense. I rarely listen to Squeeze after East Side Story. They fall off pretty dramatically from Sweets From A Stranger onward.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

matt, it sounds like you dont like the record.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

catchy hooks - not so much

spare - yes, but less so than the last two

perfectly arranged guitar/keyboard parts - too much guitar for my taste, but the keyboards sound good

and amazing sounding drums? - they've still got that covered, but the guitars are more prominent in the mix of some songs

Maria - I like the record, just not a whole lot. It's still kinda early, it might click with me later. I've heard it about three times now, so that's pretty reasonable to expect.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 18:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The songs that are immediately working for me are "The Beast And Dragon Adored," "My Mathematical Mind," "I Turn My Camera On," "The Infinite Pet," and "Was It You?"

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sister Jack isn't working for you? I don't hear Wilco in that at all. Maybe this is a weird comparison, but it reminds me of the Flamin Groovies.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Wilco is probably not the best comparison I could come up. How about just generic "boring roots rock"? I usually like Wilco, even when they do the boring roots rock stuff.

Just listened to "The Two Sides Of Monsieur Valentine," and do hear the late-Squeezeness in that song.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think the drumming's just as prominent on this record as it has been on previous records. eno picks the perfect time to start it up in "sister jack". i was worried that without some sort of backbeat, the sound would drag and sound awful, but its totally not the case.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

matt - i dont want to argue semantics with you but when you use the phrase "boring roots rock" but then say you like it, im a bit unsure as to what your feelings really are.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Well, "Sister Jack" is definitely my least favorite song on the record. I wouldn't characterize the other songs as being boring. The guitars in "Sister Jack" just make my eyes glaze over. I can imagine liking that song if the guitars were different or maybe removed entirely.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:07 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

well, thats what im saying. i heard the "SJ" demos, which were only guitar and i thought to myself, oh man, this sounds like its going to be dull. eno's drumming saves the song from being a mid-shuffle disaster.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

"Two Sides...," "Sister Jack" and "I Summon You" are probably my top picks thus far. I can see myself spending a lot of time with this record, though.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh wait, im sorry. im thinking of "i summon you". i hate titles.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:10 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Did you hear the demo version of "Sister Jack" that was floating on their website for the better part of the year? I think right now I prefer that version, though I'm willing to give this time.

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alex in montreal, Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Sounds like they still haven't finished mixing or mastering these.

darin (darin), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I hope that is true. It could stand to be a bit cleaner than this.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 19:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

holy shit how can you not love "They Never Got You"? it's that one instantly GREAT song you always get on spoon albums.

drew, Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

cleaner? i think the productions pretty sharp on it. might have to do with us listening to MP3's more than anything else.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 20:32 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i have listened to it, on-off, for the best part of the last 24 hours, and i'm of the opinion that it is an almighty shuffle forward and their best record yet. now, bear in mind that i have a 100% record of thinking the most recent Spoon is the best, since Sneaks, but that's because it has been true every time! to paraphrase myself elsewhere, without losing the Spoon-y spartan essence, the songs are somehow more musical and substantial. i love 'Mathematical Mind' - seriously a contender for best Spoon track to date.

fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Heartening!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I keep reading this as "Grime Fiction"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Spoon should go on tour with Stephen Malkmus and the can call it either the "Face the Fiction" or "Gimme the Truth" tour.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:21 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Hi, thanks for stealing my joke. :-)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Actually, maybe just the TRUTH AND FICTION Tour would work, sorta like that DCFC/D-Plan tour a few years back called the DEATH AND DISMEMBERMENT Tour.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 21:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Thumbs up to the LP, thumbs down to its cover...

http://www.matadorrecords.com/images/fullsize/ole-660.jpg

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:08 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yes indeed, that is more than somewhat crappy. is that really the cover, or did you cook that up in photoshop in a random act of boredom?

fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Check the url. It's straight from Matador.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:12 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Or they could do a split with the Fake Fictions and call it "Gimme Fake Fiction".

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like that cover!

The Truth & Fiction tour should be set up like those Billy Joel/Elton John tours - they should play together, do each other's songs - it'd be great!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I like the photo, but the font and font color are horrendous.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

They should have at least ironed the hood.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:19 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i think the cover's just fine. its just as minimal as kill the moonlight or girls can tell were. britt seems to gravitate towards what i can only refer to as "duotone" images, meaning its black plus one color.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

it looks like an advert for cosmetics or something. my thumbs are also firmly down, too.

fsharp (fsharp), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

jaymc -- im sorry! i knew someone said it but i couldnt remember just who.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've got no real reservations about the composition of the cover (black + 1), but not a fan of the image itself.

That font and the font colors over another image would be just dandy.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

(xpost) heh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Johhny Fever and I are in opposite mode on this record in every aspect of its being! I like the photo and think the text looks a bit half-assed.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 17 February 2005 22:24 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

finally listened, not thrilled. Heavy on the classic-rock tributes a la Elvis Costello of recent years (though to be sure it's more consisitently appealing). May be a grower... I thought the last couple songs were pretty strong. New order of Spoon release goodness:

Kill the Moonlight
Soft Effects
Series of Sneaks
Gimme Fiction
Girls Can Tell
Love Ways

(still haven't heard Telephono)

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Spoon to Tour North America in June

Chris Rediske reports:
So before you get all uppity about it, let us just say: We know we just reported Spoon tour dates last Friday. But here's the thing-- those shows, aside from one SXSW date (which already happened) and the Coachella date in April, are all taking place in Europe. Where you, most likely, are not. But you know Spoon loves the native North American-dweller just as much as the next deified indie rock band, which is why they're planning on spending their summer with you and you and you.

Yes, it's true-- Spoon will be marching quickly through the U.S. and Canada for the better part of June in support of their upcoming fifth full-length Gimme Fiction, hitting both coasts before ending up in their hometown of Austin. The Clientele will be along for the ride, and because we're cool like that, we've even reprinted the European dates from last week. Turn your camera on:

04-06 Dublin, Ireland - Olympia *
04-08 London, England - Brixton Academy *
04-11 Hamburg, Germany - Grosse Freiheit *
04-12 Koln, Germany - E-Werk *
04-13 Berlin, Germany - Columbiahalle *
04-15 Treviso, Italy - New Age *
04-16 Firenze, Italy - Sasch Hall *
04-17 Modena, Italy - Vox *
04-19 Bordeaux, France - Le Krakatoa *
04-20 Nantes, France - Halle de la Trocardiere *
04-21 Paris, France - Le Zenith *
04-24 Barcelona, Spain - Razzmatazz *
04-25 Madrid, Spain - La Riviera *
04-30 Indio, CA - Coachella Valley Music & Arts Festival
06-01 Atlanta, GA - Variety Playhouse #
06-02 Carrboro, NC - Cat's Cradle #
06-03 Washington, DC - 9:30 Club #
06-04 Philadelphia, PA - Theatre of Living Arts #
06-05 Toronto, Ontario - Lee's Palace #
06-06 Northampton, MA - Pearl Street #
06-07 Boston, MA - Paradise Rock Club #
06-08 New York, NY - Webster Hall #
06-09 New York, NY - Webster Hall #
06-10 Cleveland, OH - Beachland Ballroom #
06-11 Chicago, IL - Vic Theatre #
06-12 Minneapolis, MN - First Avenue #
06-13 Lawrence, KS - Granada #
06-14 Denver, CO - Bluebird Theater #
06-16 Portland, OR - Crystal Ballroom #
06-17 Vancouver, British Columbia #
06-18 Seattle, WA - Showbox #
06-20 San Francisco, CA - TBA #
06-21 Los Angeles, CA - TBA #
06-22 Tempe, AZ - TBA #
06-24 Dallas, TX - TBA #
06-25 Austin, TX - TBA #

Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yeah, im pretty psyched about this. i think im even going to get tickets to shows in other cities!

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 24 March 2005 21:25 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
i said this over at fluxblog, but that should be the cover art for the 7". please make this happen merge.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Sunday, 1 May 2005 12:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

guided by voices

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

GODDAMN ME. Ok, while I'm here, Britt Daniel gets x free passes whether or not this album isn't any good.

But it will be good...naysayers should recall that both the last two were big-time sleepers. You have to let those songs grow into all the empty spaces...

Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Sunday, 1 May 2005 17:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

It has definitely grown on me, though there's some sagging in the middle ("Sister Jack," "I Summon You"--and wtf, Daniel sounds like Beck on "Was it You," who needs that...).

These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Monday, 2 May 2005 05:29 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

who is responible for that graphical depiction?

Aaron Ef. (aaron ef.), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:44 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

A fellow named John Cei Douglas.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 May 2005 14:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

John Cei Douglas = Suedey

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 2 May 2005 15:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

oh haha i hadn't noticed that! good work john!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 May 2005 15:28 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

i said this over at fluxblog, but that should be the cover art for the 7". please make this happen merge.
-- blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.lif...), May 1st, 2005.

Yeah, please make this happen merge! The back cover could look something like this...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v485/Suedey/valentinebackcoverpos2.jpg

I am unemployed.

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

wow! who do we have to talk to to make this happen?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh, thanks jaymc! I probably should have mentioned who I was upthread, silly me!

Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hey it's ok! at first i was just like, oh, he nicked that from fluxblog!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 May 2005 19:57 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

send email to merge xpost

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 2 May 2005 20:42 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

spoon played a secret show in chicago tonight. (it was a jack daniels promotional event.) they were great. i found gimme fiction to be mostly boring when i heard it a month ago, but they were so tight and energetic on stage, i'm looking forward to listening to the album again.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 04:22 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Spoon make some of the catchiest, most confident rock 'n' roll of any group around. Their fifth full-length is nothing short of a dizzying, soulful masterpiece, easily the most expansive work in their career. "Gimme Fiction" is a sprawling, exhilarating, filler-free album of keenly focused artistic vision and ambition.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Oh... wait. That was from the publisher...

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 07:47 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

for those in philly...

http://photos8.flickr.com/12381307_81a791d9fa.jpg

we're giving away concert tickets and other promotional swag.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

this has become a must-buy for me. there's a picture in the liner from a show at philly's rotunda back in april '03!

the sound was so bad, i think i called for "waiting for the kid to come out" after they played it.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 00:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Bought this album today and it is so great.

That's all I have to say.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 02:31 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Album of the year so far.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:06 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, The Woods is the album of the year so far.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No, that would be Final Fantasy.

Sean M (Sean M), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:38 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I had never heard a note of Spoon's music, but after going head to head with one of the Spoon guys at the Staremaster contest at the Slint ATP I thought I'd check out the new record- and I think it's really great. It's funny, I don't hear the connection between them and a lot of the bands/influences people name drop- to me I hear a really T-Rex/Nick Gilder thing going on, and personally I love it. Yay for Spoon.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Saturday, 14 May 2005 18:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

With all the talk of comparing this album with their older ones, I realized I never owned Telephono, just lived with somebody who had one or borrowed it. Now it's out of print, and even just the CD is going for $50 (?!). I'm not on slsk or anything at the moment. Can someone please just Gmail it to me?

c@md3n (c@md3n), Thursday, 19 May 2005 18:59 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

T-Rex/Nick Gilder

completely. Strong 70's sound to the writing and the production on this. I love how they can sound so muscular and spare at the same time.

dan. (dan.), Thursday, 19 May 2005 19:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

eleven months pass...
Listened to this album yesterday on big honking headphones while walking through midtown Manhattan, carrying two moderately heavy bags, on my way to Penn Station, to Newark Airport, for to carry me home to LA. Getting my body, my feet on the pavement into rhythm with the bags, navigating through and around the crowds, checking out a few New York women, watching the New Yorkers reading and talking and smoking in their parks. The fact that half of the resulting awesomeness came from the album informs you, reader, that it is awesome, and deserving of praise, and that it disproves the shadowy, gray, lifeless fears about the disappearance of the vital impulse in art that have been troubling you.

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

still a great record, i still think there's an alternate sequencing.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Hah - that's a great post from Lukas. Does he still post here?

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Still their best album.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

you left out a "has nothing on" before "their best album"

(that being KtM, obv)

bernard snow (sixteen sergeants), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

GcT > SoS > KtM > dried up dog dookie > GF

Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 14:52 (twelve years ago) Permalink

SoS > GF > GCT = KTM > Telephono

a.b. (alanbanana), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 15:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Girls Can Tell = Gimme Fiction = Kill The Moonlight >> A Series of Sneaks > Loveways >>>>>>>>>>>> Telephono

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 18:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

did i write that purple stuff? o well, it was a gorgeous day.

Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:38 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Album of the year so far.
-- Jim Reckling (Jreckli...), May 14th, 2005 2:06 PM. (Jim Reckling) (link)


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No, The Woods is the album of the year so far.
-- The Brainwasher (bornliveddie...), May 14th, 2005 2:30 PM. (Twilight) (link)


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No, that would be Final Fantasy.
-- Sean M (sea...), May 14th, 2005 2:38 PM. (Sean M) (link)

Haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 21:40 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Where's the Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga thread?

Scik Mouthy, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:21 (eleven years ago) Permalink

Spoon - Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga

kenan, Monday, 6 August 2007 21:29 (eleven years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

for years somehow i was missing the mp3 for 'delicate place'. now that i have it the whole album is fucked up! what a way to ruin the momentum from 'mathematical mind' > 'sister jack'. :/

j., Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i might delete that track and go for a run tomorrow and see if you're onto something

desperado, rough rider (thomp), Sunday, 12 February 2012 01:10 (six years ago) Permalink

karma for stealing rather than buying maybe

mookieproof, Sunday, 12 February 2012 01:47 (six years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

I was in this drop D metal band we called Requiem

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 2 December 2018 20:33 (two weeks ago) Permalink

We listened to Gimme Fiction so much when it came out when I was working at Tower Records. Me and a couple coworkers had a choreographed dance routine for the first part of 'Sister Jack.' Haha.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:18 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Pretty classic mid-2000s album.

underqualified backing vocalist (morrisp), Monday, 3 December 2018 00:43 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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