Tom Lehrer

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Just wanted to salute the wonderfulness of Tom Lehrer. I've just acquired his box set and am feeling terribly excited, especially as there are loads of songs I didn't previously know. What's his status over in the States? Is he revered? Is he over-played? (certainly no danger of that here in the UK) Has there ever been a backlash? What's your favourite TL song? (I'm going through a big 'National Brotherhood Week' phase at the moment.)

Daniel, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

For what it's worth, Tom Lehrer was a favorite amongst my grade school teachers. My 8th grade science teacher used to play the "Elements" song at the beginning of every class.

I didn't realize how biting the appropriation of Lehrer's music could be until I saw the film "Stop The Church", where the tune "The Vatican Rag" was used to cut ups of powerful religious figures in ceremony.

As for his status in the States, I think it's been pretty low-key since the 70s, and got lower ever decade thereafter, my 8th grade science teacher notwithstanding.

Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I love Tom Lehrer. Overplayed? Certainly not. He has a cult following at best. The first place I heard him, over 10 years ago, was the Dr. Demento Show. I imagine that's where a lot of people first hear Tom Lehrer.

Favorite song. Either the World War III song (on That Was the Year That Was) or "Masochism Tango". Or maybe "Werhner Von Bran". You'd think political humor would always date badly, but Tom Lehrer's songs don't. 35 years later, his stuff still sounds fresh and funny.

He's been retired from music for awhile. He teaches at the University of California in Santa Cruz (not sure what subject).

Oliver Kneale, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I had some kid's album he did when I was young. Entertaining, to be sure! Had no idea he was rather more aggro until later years...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Is he revered? Is he over-played?

I've actually never heard of him, which is saying something.

Sean, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Not really overplayed. We didn't have Demento on the airwave where I grew up, but we got a program called the Comedy Bowl, and I heard occasional bits of Lehrer. Favourites would be "Poisoning Pigeons in the Park" and "New Math". "New Math" was a bit puzzling though, when I thought about it...it's how I learned math and I couldn't conceive of people doing math any other way. The delivery is what got me.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Egypt's going to get one too, just to use on you-know-who... so, Israel's getting tense, wants one in self-defense; the Lord's our shepherd, says the psalm, but just in case... we better get a bomb." God, I can still remember the lyrics... I think he's now a math professor. "Send the Marines" was another brilliant Vietnam-era song.

Andy, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Blast from the past...I remember that one too now that you quote the lyrics.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Here's a site that contains a whole pile o' Lehrer lyrics.

Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

very much revered by me, anyhow. I can't pick a favourite. I like them all. The box set even has the obscurer stuff from his Electric Company days "Silent E", "L-Y", all those great educational tunes.

http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2000-04-19/feature.html is an article containing a recent interview with him. He's a Math Prof at the University of Santa Cruz in California.

pauls00, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think he teaches math in San Diego (if he hasn't retired from that; he must be getting up there in years by now). I remember randomly picking up some science book a few years ago, and in it the author had a chapter on Tom Lehrer, who he apparently grew up with as friends.

I know when they released the box set, he said that he discourages accompanying pictures of himself when they release his stuff, because he likes that people aren't able to recognize him.

Joe, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

he's not the PBS news guy, then?

g, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

No, that's the other Lehrer... but PBS does have Mark Russell on occasion, a sort of hyper-politicized not-so-funny Capitol Hill lackey.

Andy, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

He has a cult following among grade-school English teachers and college professors, whereby he picks up a younger fan or two.

Kerry, Wednesday, 9 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

spring is here, spring is here, life is skittles and life is beer...

Love Lehrer. First met a load of his songs in a Edinburgh fringe show '99, some oxbridge hoorays dressed up to the nines giving it the full barbershop treatment. I was giggling for days. Can anybody recomend a good recording or two?

misterjones, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gavin, I saw that revue, too! As I mentioned in my original question, I have the box set. It's called The Remains of Tom Lehrer and is the complete works.

Daniel, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I got given 'An Evening Wasted With...' for Christmas. I was a happy boy. Semi-amusing Lehrer related anecdote: One of my classics teachers once did an assembly about Tom Lehrer in front of the entire school, say 1000 11-18 year olds. He sang a few of the songs as well. No one laughed. At all. So there you go, a backlash, even if it was because everyone thought they were too cool to laugh at a classics teacher's jokes. It's kind of the same effect as everyone being too cool to sing the hymns in assembly.

Bill, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As my flatmate pointed out to me only this morning, Lehrer deserves minus points for leaving out the word 'on' or 'with' in the final lines of 'Poisoning Pigeons In The Park':

"We'll murder them all amid laughter and merriment

Except for the few we take home to experiment."

Andrew L, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

not singing hymns at school = rockist

mark s, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Props to you Dancity! eeeh, this interweb thingy's bloody marvelous.

misterjones, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well spotted, Andrew L. I'm racking my brains but you're absolutely right - strictly speaking we're missing a preposition in there. A rare lapse, though.

Daniel, Thursday, 10 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

But isn't it:
"Especially the few we take home to experiment...
o-o-o-o-n...we'll all do the etc."

My favourite is "So Long Mom, I'm off to drop the bomb"

Sam, Friday, 11 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

four years pass...
So the third disc of "The Remains of Tom Lehrer" is the best album ever, right?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Revive for the youtube era !

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 8 March 2008 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Kogan in the Voice:

http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0037,kogan,18125,22.html

xhuxk, Saturday, 8 March 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

three years pass...

night 2 of listening to too much of him. so fucking amazing

O_o-O_0-o_O (jjjusten), Thursday, 17 March 2011 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link

i've never quibbled
if it was ribald
i have devoured where others merely nibbled

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:10 (thirteen years ago) link

who needs a hobby
like tennis
or philately?
I'VE got a hobby:
rereading lady chatterly!

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 17 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

While married to Gus, she met Gropius
And soon she was swinging with Walter
Gus died and her teardrops were copious
She cried all the way to the altar

Dodo Lurker (Slim and Slam), Thursday, 17 March 2011 11:12 (thirteen years ago) link

To the shores of Tripoli
But not to Mississipoli

Magnum PI and Fashion-Forward Dudes (Eazy), Friday, 18 March 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Good article:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/tom-lehrer

That's So (Eazy), Thursday, 10 April 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link

we've gained notoriety
and caused much anxiety
in the audubon society with our little games
they call it impiety
and lack of propriety
and quite a variety of unpleasant names

but it's not against any religion
to want to dispose of a pigeon!

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 10 April 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link

that is a great and pleasantly exhaustive article!

sleeve, Thursday, 10 April 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link

Just came here to post that.

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

“If you’re out behind the woodshed doing what you’d like to do, just be sure that your companion is a Boy Scout too”

Cronk's Not Cronk (Eric H.), Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:47 (ten years ago) link

“Things I once thought were funny are scary now,” he told People magazine in 1982. “I often feel like a resident of Pompeii who has been asked for some humorous comments on lava.”

I have a copy of the first Songs 10" I found in a College Park thrift store in the 90's for a dollar and it's getting played tonight.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 10 April 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

When 2 Chainz, a rapper, asked to sample “The Old Dope Peddler” in one of his tracks, Mr Lehrer was keen to help. “I grant you motherfuckers permission to do this,” he supposedly answered. “Please give my regards to Mr Chainz, or may I call him 2?”

https://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2017/10/wit

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

oh good, still alive

imago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

<3

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 16:54 (six years ago) link

oh good, still alive

Phew!

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

I just referenced "The Old Dope Peddler" the other day. A giant talent, I first met his work on The Electric Company in the 70s. Was it Nixon that caused him to stop writing songs? I can only imagine what he thinks now.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 19:49 (six years ago) link

My oldster parents had all his records and I memorized them all before I understood any of the jokes.

For a long time he occasionally emerged to do something, usually for children's television but I think "Hannukah in Santa Monica" was for Prairie Home Companion.

Careful with that Ax, Emanuel (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

Was it Nixon that caused him to stop writing songs?

'Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.' - TL

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 November 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link

I've loved this guy my whole life, I think my parents must have had his LPs.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 20:41 (six years ago) link

so much love for that 2 Chainz story

Roz, Thursday, 2 November 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

turned 90 on Saturday!

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

we really may all go together eh

imago, Monday, 9 April 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Not dead, still a genius.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 15 September 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Forever a hero:

Pretty extraordinary - Tom Lehrer, aged 92, has decided to put all his lyrics and sheet music into the public domain, before he passes away. https://t.co/WVctS3MUlf

— Brian Edwards (@brianftang) October 20, 2020

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

wow didn't realize he was still alive.

na (NA), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

Was just listening to Revisited last night. I've been meaning to buy the sheet music and try to play some of his songs, so this gives me no more excuse for procrastination.

peace, man, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

King shit

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

And having posted about the above two years back, he did in fact do this

https://tomlehrersongs.com/

And yes, he's still with us. 94 years and counting.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 December 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

The main link there lists the songs individually with lyrics and music, but if you want to just go for the actual recordings, help yourself:

https://tomlehrersongs.com/albums/

The three discs of the Rhino box appear at the end of the list.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 December 2022 23:52 (one year ago) link

ty ^

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 December 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link

ooh thanks!

Roz, Saturday, 17 December 2022 05:35 (one year ago) link


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