Linda Ronstadt - Classic or Dud?

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She's got quite a set of pipes on her, I can tell you that much. I really love "You're No Good" and "Blue Bayou." What do y'all think?

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

The wife loves her. meh.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Roy Orbison's Blue Bayou is perfect, but Linda's take is really something too. I'm also a fan of her cover of Desperado.

Oh, and her work on the 'Mr Plow' theme song is truly inspired.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Didn't she sing that Neil Young song "Love Is A Rose"? That song is good, sort of.

Sugaree, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Her version of "Perfidia" (en Espanol, tambien) is absolutely killer. One of the first things I bought on iTunes, and it's perfect because god knows I don't want a whole album by Linda Fucking Ronstadt, but that one song is just Top Notch.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Some of her seventies hits were pretty good for that sound. Anything after 1977 (Simple Dreams) is pretty much crap IMO, especially her attempts at singing standards with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra.

ffirehorse, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Beaten to the Senor Plow punch!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 04:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Absolute winner -- her singing "Blue Bayou" on The Muppet Show, with rhythm provided by a bunch of frogs on a swamp set. Perfect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Senor Plow no es macho,
Es solamente un borracho...

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, I believe hers was on behalf of the Plow King, not Mr. Plow himself.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:25 (fourteen years ago) link

she fits in nicely on carla bley's "escalator over the hill"

phil turnbull (philT), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 05:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes, I believe hers was on behalf of the Plow King, not Mr. Plow himself

Jealousy will get you nowhere. ;)

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:00 (fourteen years ago) link

beat to the punch by Phil

Tito JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link

She's a great singer.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Some real dreck in her catalog, but "How Do I Make You" . . . hell yeah.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Her cover of Tumblin' Dice rules!

Bryan Moore (Bryan Moore), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 11:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Lots of great singles, like "Poor, Poor Pitiful Me."

briania (briania), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Anything after 1977 (Simple Dreams) is pretty much crap IMO, especially her attempts at singing standards with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra.

bah. mad love is awesome! rickey wright already namechecked "how do i make you" but lemme also throw in "justine."

stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I saw her last year singing mostly standards. Even more than the usual pipes/power/range criteria, her delivery is phenomenal. At one point, the way she sang the "d" in the word "don't" blew me away. People think I'm crazy for bringing up the way she sings consonants, but if you heard you'd understand. Some of her choices of material in the '70s were meh, but still - classic, overall.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 14:54 (fourteen years ago) link

to be pompous for a second, she has this great style of a very tightly controlled portamento -- a lot of singers kinda artlessly slide between notes as if what's going on between points A and B is of no consequence whatsoever (and sometimes, like bad figure skaters, their liftoffs/landings themselves are sloppy). you can tell linda is paying attention every moment she's singing, and i admire that.

stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

People think I'm crazy for bringing up the way she sings consonants

again, it's just the mark of good training! any teacher with a brain will go over the shaping of consonants and vowels with his students.

stockholm cindy's secret childhood (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"Mr Plow is a loser and I think he is a boozer..."

Alienus Quam Reproba (blueski), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Best albums that we have not been overexposed to were the " Canciones de ma padre" ( sp ) i.e. "Songs for my Father" , sung in Spanish and the lush one she did with Nelson Riddle doing the string arrangements.

Also we thank her/hate her for hiring Don Henley as her drummer...

Brian C, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

The ambivalent essay in "Stranded" about the merit of her Zevon, Orbison, and Young covers has always made me curious to check out "Heart Like A Wheel" and "Living in the USA," but I've never made the effort.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 15:50 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Well actually the song "Heart Like A Wheel" reminds me of the song Bette Midler did later, "The Rose", only "Heart Like A Wheel" is slower. The notes are much the same.

Linda Ronstadt's version of "Someone To Lay Down Beside Me" is an exquisite gem of a song. I still haven't heard the original Karla Bonoff version, but I love the tune and the way Linda sings it.
My favourite Ronstadt song.

When I was about 8 years old, my friend's parents next door used to play this album, and I still say this is the one to have:

http://chartts.tripod.com/HISTORY/1977.JPG

Other favourites include her version of Tumbling Dice and that Warren Zevon cover...what was it? Ah yes, "Poor Poor Pitiful Me". My favourite thing to play at the end of an academic quarter. I like Linda. She can sing.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Friday, 3 June 2005 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

once again, i love her.

to let - flats (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 3 June 2005 08:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah she's great. I don't know much (aha!!!) about her work with the Stone Poneys, but what I've heard sounds quite appealing. My favourite of hers is "Dedicated To The One I Love", the album of lullabyes she made for her own baby in the early nineties. Instrumentation: glass harmonica, harp and multi-layered vocals. And that's pretty much it. Unbelievable.
Also seek her version of Jimmy Webb's "Adios", a phenomenal song heartbreakingly sung. And I *adore* "Don't Know Much".

harvey.w (harvey.w), Friday, 3 June 2005 11:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Classic for "Blue Bayou" and for her absolutely entrancing performance as Mabel in the movie of Pirates of Penzance. Also for the song she guests on on Graceland, "Under African Skies."

But she also made some clunky mistakes. I chanced to hear "It's So Easy" the other day; I never did like that song.

The Mad Puffin, Friday, 3 June 2005 12:57 (fourteen years ago) link

the video for "it's so easy" is classic for waddy wachtel's hair alone.

to let - flats (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i only know her from her work with neil young, and the Mr Plow episode, but classic for those.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I grew up hearing those Aaron Navel duets, which are purty.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Senor Plow no es macho, Es solamente un borracho...

PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Friday, 3 June 2005 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

I like her lots. Well, excpet the standards stuff. But my moms played the hell Greatest Hits Vols. I & II (on 8 track, nonetheless!) when I was a kid, so it is permanently imprented on my brain.

"Long, Long Time" is still devestating to me everytime I hear it -- especially when she betls out that last "'Casue I've done everythin I know/to try and make you mine"

Randy Reiss (undeadsinatra), Friday, 3 June 2005 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Sooo....where should I begin? Heart Like a Wheel and Simple Dreams?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

When Will I Be Loved?

PappaWheelie, don't fuck this up (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

that 2cd comp of her first 4(?) records that came out some months back is a good intro if you like the country-rock side of linda (which i'm guessing wouldn't be your cup o' tea so much, Alfred) i really like the first 2 records, sort of lose interest after that but gotta respect those pipes!

timmy tannin (pompous), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

a good intro if you like the country-rock side of linda (which i'm guessing wouldn't be your cup o' tea so much, Alfred)

Hm. Maybe. I'm a guy who digs upbeat Loretta and Dolly and New Wave Rosanne Cash, so, it's a coin flip.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

New Wave Rosanne rules!

A Radio Picture (Rrrickey), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

I would revive a Rosanne Cash thread if there were enough people who cared.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

rosanne is capable of greatness, but...

"you're no good" >>>>> everything rosanne has ever done, with the single possible exception of "seven year ache."

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

"You're No Good" is marvelous, but on Rosanne's side we got: "Blue Moon with Heartache," "Hold On," "I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me," "Halfway House," "Runaway Train," "Rosie Strikes Back," "Somewhere, Somehow" -- a helluva run.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:33 (twelve years ago) link

some damn good songs in there but none of 'em is "you're no good." some of 'em, i might rather here someone else singing (personal thing between me and rosanne's voice). and "i don't know why you don't want me" is a great verse/chorus dragged down by a drab bridge, or maybe a great verse dragged down by a drab chorus, or maybe a great chorus dragged down by a drab verse (dammit, what part is what in that one???).

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:43 (twelve years ago) link

(funny, though, on "i don't know why you don't want me," i love rosanne's voice; it's the male harmonies i can't stand.)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think any of her '70s hits were as good as "Different Drum," but I like "Silver Threads and Golden Needles" quite a bit.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 4 November 2006 01:49 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah Justine is awesome, I totally dig the Madlove album

California Mafia Faux PunkWave= Adorable

Understanding it's about rock and roll revival and not synths and safety pins = admirable

Ultrathick prog moog in a new wave context classic

Adam S S (Zephery), Saturday, 4 November 2006 02:42 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred we're on the same plane yet again. I pulled out Linda just last weekend in order to make my friend a small compilation of some songs I'd like to see her sing the next time she does a gig in this ritzy hotel bar. My Linda choices for the comp were "Someone To Lay Down Beside Me" and "Heart Like A Wheel".

An evening of fun in the metropolis of your dream (Bimble...), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

Prisoner in Disguise is also a good record

Adam S S (Zephery), Saturday, 4 November 2006 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

Classic!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 November 2006 04:54 (twelve years ago) link

Her new album with Ann Savoy, the cajun queen, is great. their version of walk away renee is fucking awesome!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 4 November 2006 04:56 (twelve years ago) link

Christ, she was the freakin queen of r&r for a few 70s years for all the right reasons. excellent voice / superb delivery and control / good looking / not half-bad backing bands / some great material / did drugs etc...

jim wentworth (wench), Saturday, 4 November 2006 06:19 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

loving linda these days
her outfit is so cool + she (always) sounds great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd2_LKoTYKw

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:07 (one year ago) link

also let's hear it for rhyming gender & blender

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:09 (one year ago) link

classic

brimstead, Friday, 10 November 2017 01:24 (one year ago) link

Linda is magic

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:29 (one year ago) link

It's so easy
It's so easy
It's so easy

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:45 (one year ago) link

iiiiiiiiiiiiive been cheateeed

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 01:49 (one year ago) link

my father loved linda ronstadt and i always have too. there’s a small windy intersection by an ugly little bridge near our childhood house that always makes me think of ‘blue bayou’ (and hearing the song always makes me see the intersection, which could not be less bayou-like.) i suppose we must have been singing it in the car driving through there once. my friend has moved to that part of town and a couple of weeks ago i drove over to visit her and the memory turned up as usual, it’s a fixture.

estela, Friday, 10 November 2017 03:44 (one year ago) link

also let's hear it for rhyming gender & blender

Well, Warren Zevon.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2017 04:13 (one year ago) link

take it to the Zevon thread buddy, this is LindaTown

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:20 (one year ago) link

lol yes

estela, Friday, 10 November 2017 04:25 (one year ago) link

the way she rhymes them is all her

estela, Friday, 10 November 2017 04:26 (one year ago) link

ps estela whenever i hear blue bayou i think of watching her sing it on the muppet show, fresh out of the bath sitting in front of the heater so my hair would be dry before bedtime <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 04:30 (one year ago) link

<3 that is darling

estela, Friday, 10 November 2017 04:32 (one year ago) link

Classic!

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Friday, 10 November 2017 07:07 (one year ago) link

Three things I love:

1. Her first solo record, "Dolphins," written by Fred Neil ("Everybody's Talkin'")

2. "Up to My Neck in High Muddy Water," Stone Poneys single from 1968

3. "Silver Threads and Golden Needles," single from 1973, previously recorded by many other people including the Springfields (UK) and the Cowsills but hers is the best

Josefa, Friday, 10 November 2017 07:20 (one year ago) link

VG & estela otm -- Linda gamely makes those corny lyrics sound charming
I can't stop singing "WoooooooOOOHHHHooooe is me"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:40 (one year ago) link

I think interpretation is something of a lost art. Too many singers gravitate toward "standards" but I wish they just cherrypicked their favorite stuff and made something fresh out of it, like LR. Like, there's a difference between a "covers album" and singers doing special with songs by other people, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2017 14:45 (one year ago) link

"Will Never Marry" has become one of my anthems.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 November 2017 15:00 (one year ago) link

when her voice gets loud on Bayou I get all teary and goosebumpy

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 7:07 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

me too

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, August 7, 2012 7:48 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Still true.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:05 (one year ago) link

i love her spanish albums

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:07 (one year ago) link

She played Sun City!!

kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 November 2017 16:28 (one year ago) link

classic Simpsons/Linda R reference for the nerds:

http://www.technologytell.com/gaming/files/2013/12/geeky-cross-stitch-senor-plow1.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 February 2019 17:12 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

Great performance here, and I'd never heard the story she tells at the beginning about Lowell George.

https://youtu.be/kMP8JsV7wbg

three weeks pass...

Lots of good songs imo

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2019 01:26 (three months ago) link

Not counting Stone Poneys? "Different Drum" is of course beyond great.

dorsalstop, Wednesday, 12 June 2019 21:27 (three months ago) link

:)

dorsalstop, Thursday, 13 June 2019 00:00 (three months ago) link

I ain’t saying you ain’t pretty

TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 June 2019 00:18 (three months ago) link

Aw man, I really love her "Back in the USA." And I'm not so hot on "Tumbling Dice."

confusementalism (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 13 June 2019 13:41 (three months ago) link

I spent my teens eyerolling at my parents Ronstadt obsession, but eventually realized my affection for Hazelewood's ballad productions was rooted in the constant exposure to "Long Long Time".

bendy, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:32 (three months ago) link

"Different Drum" is an all-time favorite.

nicky lo-fi, Saturday, 15 June 2019 00:37 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

A really good New Yorker interview.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 1 September 2019 12:07 (two weeks ago) link

That was great, thanks!

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:22 (two weeks ago) link

Posted this recently on another thread because of the B-Bender:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FiKHaSRMeg

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 September 2019 13:32 (two weeks ago) link

Great interview! Yeah, Ronstadt, all things considered, sounds like she has it all figured out.

(B-bender derail: I saw Marty Stuart play not long ago, and I guess he is the current owner of Clarence White's b-bender, and he plays it every night. I think he also owns and uses one of Pops Staples' guitars. I think it's super cool when musicians have a piece of history and continue to use it the way it was intended. Iirc Neil Young owns and plays Hank Williams' guitar all the time.)

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 September 2019 14:03 (two weeks ago) link

(Yeah, that came up on a Byrds thread and another guitar thread. Apparently he has so much memorabilia that he has to sell off some of it once in a while and there is a shop somebody told me about, can't remember where, that ends up with a lot of it)

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 September 2019 14:28 (two weeks ago) link

Norman's Rare Guitars?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 September 2019 14:57 (two weeks ago) link

Maybe. Think it was in California. Also think it wasn’t just guitars, more like cowboy boots and Nudie suits, etc.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:02 (two weeks ago) link

I just watched Marty tell the story of how he came by Clarence's B-bender Tele not long ago: http://youtu.be/r8H08Xs_w8A

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 1 September 2019 15:58 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, discussion was here and then further down Old School Guitar Pickin' And Strummin' Sick Chops YouTube Thread

Clarence had the first B-Bender, guy in the Linda Ronstadt video and all over some of her records, Bob Warford, had the second.

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 1 September 2019 16:09 (two weeks ago) link

Walking down the road t'other day, what should come into my head but LR's ace version of "Poor Poor Pitiful Me," followed by Kinky Friedman's cover of "My Shit's Fucked Up": kind of a natural succession, as nature goes (both r Zevon songs, decades apart). What else did she do by Zevon, besides "Rosalita"?

Re Marty and well-deployed vintage guitars etc, online relcis of this tour might be worth looking for---from Rolling Country 2018:

roger mcguinn, chris hillman and marty stuart & his fabulous superlatives, sweetheart of the rodeo full album show, los angeles, tuesday night. opening night of a short-ish tour. it was ragged, loose, occasionally awkward and more than occasionally great. they did one set of truncated versions of hits and deep cuts, and then the sweetheart of the rodeo set, played in full but out of order. i got the sense that stuart and the superlatives rehearsed thoroughly on their own and mcguinn and hillman maybe not so much. they missed cues left and right, were looking down frequently for chords and lyrics, and while hillman's voice was in good form, mcguinn was having a little trouble cutting through. but their instincts for harmony are still dead-on, and stuart fit right into that. i felt like i was watching a band still working out its sound, and as a result, when something gelled, when they hit a sweet spot, it was magical. like watching a band discover itself in real time. and that second set was way better than the first. it felt like having a piece of my own dna read back to me. maybe they felt the same.

encore: two byrds classics and three tom petty classics. i was wondering if maybe they would be able to coax david crosby (who i assume still lives here though i have no idea) onto the stage for a song or two. instead we got mike campbell, who joined for "american girl" -- after which they kicked him off and, strangely, played more petty songs without him. marty stuart did a bluegrassy take on "runnin' down a dream" (thumbs up) and hillman did a fairly faithful "wildflowers," which apparently petty produced for him for an album he put out last year.

they also told some stories. they're not particularly good storytellers. damn those harmonies though.

― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:08 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Was already hoping for an album from that tour, even more while reading your dispatch. Marty and His FS have the drive and expertise to keep those geezers functioning onstage for as long as possible.
-dow

dow, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

Also I still need to check out LR's contributions to Escalator Over The Hill and Songs From Liquid Days.

dow, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:21 (two weeks ago) link

I think you meant "Carmelita". Ronstadt also did "Mohammed's Radio" and "Hasten Down The Wind".

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:30 (two weeks ago) link

I skimmed that New Yorker interview but probably missed mention of the CNN documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDMYAsu5PvI

clemenza, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 15:41 (one week ago) link

it's mentioned in there
also my childhood bff sent me a link to the trailer bc we were talking about the magic of linda ronstadt recently <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 16:48 (one week ago) link

Place with vintage clothing and memorabilia from Marty Stuart was Pioneer House in Knoxville: https://www.pioneer-house.com/events/2016/11/4/the-marty-stuart-collection

The Fearless Thread Killers (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 September 2019 12:01 (one week ago) link

This is an excellent cover not often mentioned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc128G3u61M

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:38 (four days ago) link


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