Just bought the shit out of this. First CD I've bought via Amazon in about a year! Ned's 'wider picture' post OTM.
those poor fuckers on the radiohead thread
lol
― Jeff W, Sunday, 25 June 2017 10:35 (six years ago) link
i will never understand "purple rain (song) is boring/dirge/etc". i mean, on the surface i guess i understand since it's long & simple & repetitive.but, like i meanthey are taking you to mfing CHURCH!!!i love it & it makes me ugly-cry so hard. i love it now even more after reading the band's liner notes where they say that it was one of their few pure collaborations where they each contributed something to the creation of the song & that made it pretty meaningful for them. i think it shows.
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link
the "stairway to heaven" of the 80s
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
jfc
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 26 June 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link
is there a "superban" button?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 June 2017 07:45 (six years ago) link
"eject into the sun"
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 June 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
Anyone else not able to use scdownloader? Mine just keeps saving the html sites..
― stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Monday, 26 June 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link
Christ, the version of 'We Can Fuck' on this rules so much - far better than any other version I've heard, including the version on Graffiti Bridge - it's also great to have the full version of 'Computer Blue' in decent sound quality (thinking about substituting it for the edited version on the album itself whenever I play Purple Rain) - also 'Wonderful Ass' and 'Father's Song' both rule... I agree that 'The Dance Electric' runs a little too long, but otherwise I'm pleased with the stuff on this.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
100% on Purple Rain. just that single 6-note figure he returns to throughout the solo of Purple Rain kills me.
― campreverb, Monday, 26 June 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
computer blue hallway speech version just slays every fucking thing it encounters
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link
THere's enough left of "Father's Song" to hear what Prince, Wendy, and Lisa extrapolated for "Computer Blue"
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 June 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
i've got disc 2 on repeat in my carso many highlights it seems pointless to list them but one i keep enjoying is the whoosh of the cymbal (?) in Roadhouse Gardeni like that version of We Can F**k too because it takes such a different turn in the middle than the one i've heardlong version of Computer Blue also *heart eyes emoji*
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link
i am deliberately prolonging my non-ownership of this box but I can't hold on much longer
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Monday, 26 June 2017 20:22 (six years ago) link
^^^
― sleeve, Monday, 26 June 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link
i pre-ordered it as a gift and have been hogging it since it arrived
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
disc two and dvd worth the price of admission (visually the quality of the show is Good not Great but also it's a fuckin' revolution show from 1985)
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 26 June 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
agreethough i did save the DVD for a time we could both watch iti have SOME restraint
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 26 June 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
had credit on my amazon store card. bought for thursday delivery. downloaded AutoRip and, because I am perverse, am listening to disc 3 first.
good grief the 7" edit of let's go crazy is weird. good god it's nice to hear these 12" edits taken from a non-vinyl source. "god" 12" mix is so fucking great, help
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
erotic city 12" has an unfortunate little dropout in the opening lick though
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link
"Velvet Kitty" is like the missing link between pub rock and Kraftwerk
"Possessed" is a really excellent "tracky" track, it reminds me of Tuomas asking about whether Prince ever did straight up house songs. It's not a straight-up house song but it's getting there.
That DRUM SOUND and that slightly slower than house tempo it is just PAVLOVIAN with me and SO MANY of these songs have it!!
"Our Destiny / Roadhouse Garden" sublime, I keep rewinding
And agreed, Hallway mix of Computer Blue a universe devastator, can imagine a club like Optimo going absolutely mental to a full playout of it
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
They missed out by not putting "Purple Music" on here. Now that's some amazing proto-House Prince. There are even bad House edits of it floating around these days.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
Fucking love purple music but every version of it I have sounds terrible
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that's one of my favorite proto-house outtakes along with "The Line" and haven't heard a remotely good quality rip of either.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
I'm guessing they could have dug for the originals in Ye Olde Vault.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link
Tracer otm, the sound of this band at this time, those drums, those saturated oberheim poly pads + piano, the guitar obv and the way his voice sounds with Lisa's and Wendy's, it's just the best place for my ears, I could stay forever like tamlin in fairy land
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
It must have been brutal for Prince to edit down 'Computer Blue' from 12 minutes down to the 4-5 minutes that it is on the LP, now that the full version is available in great quality, it makes the album version completely redundant and makes it feel incomplete.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
"Heaven" is another amazing PR era track they could've put on here as well. Not a huge fan of "Velvet Kitty Cat" and "Love and Sex". They're sort of doodles as opposed to some of the other things from the era they could have dug up and put on there. "Possessed", "Purple Music", "Heaven" and the rest on one cd would have been insane. Alas...
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link
I think velvet kitty cat is on here because it's something that can be pointed to as really truly new to people
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link
I think the entire package is presented as something "new" for listeners. I doubt the record co. is thinking of the diehard Prince freaks over your average music listener when compiling a set like this.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:37 (six years ago) link
Idk you don't think they might've put just one thing on there to say 'yes there's stuff in the vault even the cult has never heard of'?
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link
"Velvet Kitty Cat" is a perfect throwaway -- the synth sound alone!
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
It's ok, Alfred.
I dunno. I mean -- they certainly did do that - and bless 'em. But it's not as dope as the tracks I mentioned. I think most fellow Prince freaks would agree.
They are probably going for the nostalgia factor in getting this to older listeners as well as the newcomers who may have only recently been turned on to Prince.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link
I dunno, Jay Vee, let's not get too far down a road where there's some sort of comprehensive pristine-sound release of all the rarities from 86-87 and the response is "No "Wally"? FAIL."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link
I like the doodles, you need those to break up the intensity.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link
There's so many Prince rarities I really love that are just a little too late to fit into a Purple Rain timeframe and too early to fit into a SOTT timeframe (which I think is the most likely other album to get a treatment like this)
I hope we get em somehow
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
I'm not too fussed about hearing any rarities from 1990 onwards, but I'd be all over a mammoth box set of stuff from the vault from 1980-1989 - although I suspect that even a box set would be too limiting - it'd have to be a series of releases.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link
Even a 1986 box would be almost too massive
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
I could do without "Wally" to be honest ;)
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link
Whatever-- I'm getting compulsive. We got this, and this is wonderful
Xpost to self
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link
There are a couple fan-compiled sets of just about everything out there "Parade" and "SOTT" related. They are indeed massive and I personally can't get sick of them yet! Bring it.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link
Even the SOTT era fusion-lite stuff like The Flesh is interesting and weird and deserves some sort of pro release.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link
― Guidonian Handsworth Revolution (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link
another vote for We Can Fuck and Dance Electric being astonishing lightning boltsso excited to have a studio version of father's song; wanted this for decades
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
my copy came in today. starting w/ cd 2. loving it all so much. just got to roadhouse garden
― dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link
i got into prince so late that about the first thing i heard of his was "the work", so i've always thought of the purple rain version of "computer blue" as sort of "impressions of computer blue" or something along those lines. kind of impressive how much of the song he packed into those four minutes, but you can't not do damage to the song by editing it that deeply.
"the dance electric"... ok, 12 minutes is maybe a little much, but the 4 minutes on the andre cymone version is not enough! a good 8 minute edit would rule the universe. apocalyptic funk jams are one of my favorite things prince did. even at 4 minutes should have been a hit, along with "neon telephone" and "yo mister".
"love and sex" reminds me of "sexual suicide", which is one of my favorite prince songs, so yeah i dig it. how many of the songs prince shortlisted for "crystal ball ii" are out there by now?
"our destiny/roadhouse garden" kind of a disappointment to me compared to the first ave 84 version. i'm sure one day they'll put out that show legit, as well they should.
"velvet kitty cat" and "katrina's paper dolls" are great because they're so clearly unfinished outtakes - we get to hear something in the middle of being written, if only because he never polished it off for whatever reason. because of the way prince worked he doesn't have a lot of what one could really call "demos". even as half-thought-out throwaways they're world-beaters.
reading about things on the prince forums they are very grouchy and disappointed, which does surprise me because it's a whole cd of fantastic tracks, some of which have never been heard before, that absolutely stand up in quality to purple rain itself. i guess things can always be better but man just wait for the 6 cd 35th anniversary deluxe box set and it'll be out there. purple music (which i always lump together in my head for some reason with the long early version of "around the world in a day") is a great song, but i don't need everything all at once.
(my favorite version of "purple music" is the 5:41 version with different vocals from the boot "for all the purple people" mislabelled "forever in my life", which i think one of the serious prince heads tipped the board to a couple years ago. still don't know anything about it, when it's from or anything like that but it's so good!)
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link
oh, that's just another version of "heaven". gotcha!
― Rodney Stooksbury for President (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/25/arts/music/new-disputes-over-princes-estate-cloud-the-future-of-his-vault.html
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link
Just please get someone who knows their shit to digitize all those tapes.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 28 June 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link
I really like the "unreleased" tracks and the idea that it's a kind of lost Purple Rain era album but I find surprising that they don't really sound like things on Purple Rain (except "Computer Blue", of course).More like 1999 era tracks or even Parade era.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 28 June 2017 08:37 (six years ago) link