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after R.E.M.'s 'fables of the reconstruction', before hitting the real big time, peter buck went back to work in his local record store. strange but true. has anyone ever seen a once-famous/legendary rock n pop type in a similair situation? i think all the tindersticks now have regular job-type jobs on the go. just before chris martin came calling, embrace were all 9 to 5-ing it recently.

others?

piscesboy, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know any, but great thread idea.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

what were embrace doing? one of kula shaker works in marketing, that i know.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not sure exactly what he does for a day job, but Moe Berg (the former singer for Canada's once-popular The Pursuit of Happiness) has a regular DJ gig at a small T.O. pub called The Tap.

Bruce S. Urquhart (BanjoMania), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

M4rk 1bold of Pavement's been seen pouring drinks in M4nh4tt4n of late.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Somehow I stupidly imagined that Pavement members didn't need to work anymore.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

one of kula shaker works in marketing, that i know.

Presumably he learned from his mistakes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:50 (fifteen years ago) link

When Turbonegro broke up in 1998, singer Hank von Helvete went to work as a caretaker in a whaling museum in Norway. Bassist Happy Tom worked as a market analyst. However they got back together in 2002.

matulageci (matulageci), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I read somewhere that Moe Tucker worked at Walmart.

insert name here, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Lou Reed work in his dad's office for a bit before his solo career took off.

Snappy (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Alastair Moore, the keyboard player from the Skids, taught me music at school.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Was Sterling Morrison ever a tugboat captain, or did I just make that up?

Huk-L, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

bill withers went back to working as a contractor when he stopped singing. his company builds houses and stuff. weird but true, too.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd have thought he could live off of the royalties from "Lean on Me" alone.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I read somewhere that Moe Tucker worked at Walmart.

See her song "Spam Again"

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

xxpost:
I don't think you made it up, Huk, I heard that too.

Didn't David Lee Roth go into paramedic training recently?

Ken L (Ken L), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Greg Norton from Husker Du opened a restaurant.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Shane MaGowan worked at the record shop round the back of the Virgin Megastore Oxford Street, between finishing the Nips and starting the Pogues. I saw him there a couple times, anyway.

mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Dave Lowering became a magician.

Kurt Wagner kept up the fllooring business.

And didn't Sterling Morrison become a tourist boat captain while waiting for the Velvets reunion?

laticsmon (laticsmon), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Tim Rutilli of Califone waits tables (occasionally) at an amazing restaurant in Chicago - same place that Greg Davis takes residency a few times per year.

cdjk, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd have thought he could live off of the royalties from "Lean on Me" alone.

Why, surely he could. But I think that he actually takes pleasure in working as a building contractor.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Makes sense to me.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Lean on Me Construction:

You won't WITHER when you get the BILL!

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

David Lee Roth now works as an emergency medical technician in New York.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

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Bill "Zoot Horn Rollo" Harkleroad apparently works in a little music / record shop and sometimes teaches guitar.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I once read that Tim Buckley worked as a gardener after his Elektra contract was over and that he was Sly Stone's gardener?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember that Moe Tucker worked as a data entry clerk . . I never heard Walmart though.

Sterling Morrison was a teacher .. College I think ...

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

lots of jazz people got regular jobs when things got bad. King Oliver ended up selling stuff on the street in Savannah, Louis Armstrong saw him there in the '30s.

Benny Spellman, the great New Orleans singer (of "Lipstick Traces") was a beer salesman.

Alex Chilton was a tree-trimmer and dishwasher in New Orleans in the early '80s.

I think Alberta Hunter became a nurse...

I'm pretty sure Moe Tucker worked at a Wal-Mart down in Georgia.

es hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

moe tucker def worked at walmart. theres a lot of stuff about it (although i dont think the store is mentioned by name) in life in exile after abdication. which is a great album, i think.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

that blows my mind about david lee roth!

here in glasgow, steven pastel of the pastels runs a record shop (although the pastels are still going too). one of uresei yatsura works in a record shop, alan rankine of the associates teaches music technology and bobby bluebell of the bluebells is a dj.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

xxpost -- I remember learning when I went to New Orleans that a lot of jazz musicians in the 20s and 30s had dayjobs there as builders -- I think King Oliver might have been mentioned but I don't remember.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess all bluesmen from th 30s who were rediscovered in the 60s would also fit here.

matulageci (matulageci), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:26 (fifteen years ago) link

One of the guys from XTC worked (maybe still does) at a car rental place , even in the band's heydey, because the singer had chronic stagefright so they had no steady source of income.

CowboyTrance (cowboytrance), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Elizabeth Cotten played music, went back to work for many years, and then became something of a *star*. She was the Seegers' housekeeper when she was *discovered*.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Hugo Burnham went on to record exec stuff of some sort, but I think the thread is better if we don't concentrate on people who moved into an entertainment corporation.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Tim Rutilli of Califone waits tables (occasionally) at an amazing restaurant in Chicago

Where?

More Chicago musicians:

Janet Bean of Eleventh Dream Day and Freakwater works at a law firm. Tim Kinsella of Joan of Arc and Johnny Herndon of Tortoise have both bartended at the Rainbo Club in Wicker Park. John Navin of the Aluminum Group is a public school teacher; his brother Frank waits tables at the restaurant in the Hancock Building.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, let's not get on the artist x went on to produce or become an A&R man track.

Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

(None of mine went "back to work," though: I don't think any were successful enough to actually quit in the first place.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Rutilli is occasionally waiting tables at Rodan in Wicker Park.

cdjk, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, interesting. I've been there. I wouldn't recognize him, though, since I've never seen Califone.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

steven pastel of the pastels runs a record shop (although the pastels are still going too). alan rankine of the associates teaches music technology

I remember Steven working in the music department of John Smith' before they sold up to Starbucks. Alan Rankine helped get Belle and Sebastians career off the ground.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Tom Rapp of Pearls before Swine became a lawyer, as did Santiago Durango of Big Black.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Justine Frischmann of Elastica has done some school teaching since 2001.

CT (cowboytrance), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Bob Mould worked as a writer for WCW Wrestling a while back.

gspm (gspm), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Somebody had a thread recently about Art Tripp, ex-Mothers percussionist, who became a chiropractor and moved to the Mississippi Gulf Coast area within the last couple of years. Also, Motorhead Sherwood became a California Highway Patrolman. (Time to recast all those CHiPs episodes in my head.)

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

isnt laura cantrell a stockbroker on wall street? i know her job is finance-related, somehow.

on the pylon website, there's information about all the current occupations of its members.

i almost never hear of musicians / artists in general existing without some sort of dayjob.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Dunno how many of these you'd call "rock stars"....

Mark Perry (Alternative TV) worked in WH Smiths for a while
Vic Godard (Subway Sect) is a postman
Manic Esso (Lurkers) was last seen working as a drayman
Viv Albertine (Slits) works (vaguely) in television
Topper Headon (Clash) is apparently a taxi driver
Gaye Advert (Adverts) works (vaguely) in personnel / admin
Pauline Murray (Penetration) I believe works in Social Services
Jayne Casey (Big In Japan / Pink Industry / Pink Military) works for Liverpool Council
Howard Devoto (Buzzcocks / Magazine) works / worked for a picture archive library
Paul Jones (drummer with Killing Joke protegees Red Beat) works for High Wycombe council; as, I believe does Howard (also form High Wycombe but no relation afaik) Jones' mime-artist chum Jed Hoile.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Somebody had a thread recently about Art Tripp, ex-Mothers percussionist, who became a chiropractor and moved to the Mississippi Gulf Coast area within the last couple of years."

If you follow the link in my first post....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

pearl from powder 'works' as one quarter of a tragic wife-swapping group.

Miles Finch, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Wonder what Nash Kato does all day.

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Friday, 14 November 2014 01:37 (five years ago) link

what the hell is evan dando doing

hackshaw, Friday, 14 November 2014 02:26 (five years ago) link

Dando still tours as The Lemonheads--he was just in town opening for The Psychedelic Furs.

Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 14 November 2014 02:30 (five years ago) link

It looks like Amelia Fletcher (lead singer of Talula Gosh / Heavenly / Marine Research) has left her job as Chief Economist at the Office of Fair Trading to be Professor of Competition Policy at the University of East Anglia - http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2013/January/amelia-fletcher-competition-policy-oft

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 14 November 2014 05:24 (five years ago) link

one year passes...
one year passes...

Fred Neil, writer of "Everybody's Talkin'", sang "I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea", then set up the Dolphin Research Project and more or less retired from music.

lana del boy (ledge), Monday, 19 February 2018 13:50 (two years ago) link

One thing I always wonder -- how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, February 1, 2005 11:56 AM (thirteen years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Friend who's a frequently touring indie/noise dude mostly works in call centres. Sometimes stuff like being a reader for audiobooks. Occasionally gets a grant. I think the temp/gig economy is fairly conducive to this lifestyle, actually.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 19 February 2018 15:45 (two years ago) link

not exactly a "rock star" but the recent shirley collins doc has a bit about her day job drudgery after she lost her voice in the late 1970s. lame!
also was surprised to learn in a recent podcast that sleater kinney's corin tucker does web development on the side ...

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:00 (two years ago) link

I know people who were in Soul Asylum & the Jayhawks who eventually had to return to bar tending for cash flow during lean post-fame yrs

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:02 (two years ago) link

Neither of these people were the front men btw

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:04 (two years ago) link

yeah, i can only imagine being the bass player in a somewhat successful band is a losing game in the end.

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:14 (two years ago) link

They were both bass players!

RIP Karl Mueller, the sweetest man in rock.

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:17 (two years ago) link

yeah even in a good year, if you aren't writing songs, you probably only make like a decent middle class wage (but receive all the adulation that a bass player gets)

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:20 (two years ago) link

OTM

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:22 (two years ago) link

i had a conversation with an aging musician recently and he was like "so i hear you can make pretty good money with ... computers?"

tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:23 (two years ago) link

The guy from Creeper Lagoon started a rental company renting vans to...touring musicians.

He was recently in the local press because of an escapade recovering a stolen van:

https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Twitter-tale-of-SF-van-theft-gets-elected-12620936.php?t=91b84c280c

fajita seas, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:53 (two years ago) link

Perhacs returned to dentistry for many years before making another record

kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:12 (two years ago) link

Vito Bratta of White Lion, though it's not entirely clear what he does other than having obtained a real estate brokerage license at some point

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:44 (two years ago) link

depressing thread

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:55 (two years ago) link

how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.

mostly the service industry. much like how actors have jobs waiting tables (steady/reliable cash, flexible schedule, easy to find another job if you lose it) there are a lot of musicians waiting tables or working as bartenders or running sound at clubs.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:02 (two years ago) link

Was gonna say the thing about Joe Easley what was already posted. Wonder how he's doing now.

J0hn Dug@n from Chisel was a co-worker of mine in a graphics department for a while.

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:16 (two years ago) link

I don't think it's depressing, I'd love to read a thread about how musicians are getting by without day jobs/side gigs.

Almost all of the professional musicians I know either have a lot of music-related side hustles (teaching, etc) or special circumstances, like a spouse with a good job.

Heard on a podcast the other day that Corin Tucker still has a job doing web development/media.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:20 (two years ago) link

Probably not as many duplicate character as it's felt like, but you could argue that the 1990s Chapel Hill indie rock scene morphed into the 00's farm-to-table Carolina restaurant scene.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 22 February 2018 03:18 (two years ago) link

Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las went into the field of architecture and "commercial interiors" before coming back with a solo album and shows in 2007

Josefa, Thursday, 22 February 2018 05:11 (two years ago) link

Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:46 (two years ago) link

Jason Everman, briefly in Nirvana & Soundgarden, joined the army and has had a pretty interesting life

nate woolls, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:47 (two years ago) link

Pavement:

"Gary Young currently markets recording studio products"
"Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."
Bob Nastanovich: "After Pavement's split, he served as jockey agent for Greta Kuntzweiler and Joe Johnson"

President Keyes, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:53 (two years ago) link

Linda Scott pursued teaching instead of doo wop

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:58 (two years ago) link

Linda Scott pursued teaching instead of doo wop

kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:58 (two years ago) link

I was going to mention Bob Nastanovich, he actually does horse racing analysis for a local racetrack here. Occasionally does a little dj gig here and there.

mh, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:06 (two years ago) link

"Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."

Not sure when that was the case or whether still true. They shut down for a few weeks over the summer, seemingly permanently, but then reopened.

Moo Vaughn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:57 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

"Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side"

I read somewhere the she was working as a shiatsu practitioner

nostormo, Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:32 (eight months ago) link

that is mentioned upthread

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:57 (eight months ago) link

Joey Shithead from DOA is a city councillor for the Greens now.

everything, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:23 (eight months ago) link

That pub quiz thingy looks pretty spiffy in demonstration videos. Nice one, Shed Seven's Alan Leach!

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:58 (eight months ago) link

Terry Callier was a computer programmer for years, I think.

fetter, Friday, 29 November 2019 21:56 (eight months ago) link

Sammy Hagar made a packet developing and selling off his Cabo Wabo tequila brand.

that's not my post, Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:41 (eight months ago) link

DJ Crystl (of “Warpdrive” fame) is now a personal trainer.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:48 (eight months ago) link

Sammy Hagar also owns a few classy bistros in the San Francisco area.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:58 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Fred Neil, writer of "Everybody's Talkin'", sang "I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea", then set up the Dolphin Research Project and more or less retired from music.

― lana del boy (ledge)

I thought this was a joke, googled his wikipedia page to find out what he’s been up to and lo and behold, it’s true.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 00:29 (six months ago) link

What he’s been up to? He died of cancer years ago.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:07 (six months ago) link

Sorry for my bad english, I meant “what he had been up to after retiring from music”

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:10 (six months ago) link

Mick Pointer of Marillion returned to his career as a kitchen designer after being fired from the band he formed.

aphoristical, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:50 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

I wish this article wasn't paywalled because the lede is a masterpiece:

Life on the road as the leader of an indie-rock band wasn’t such a far cry from clocking in as a corporate lawyer for Darren Richard. He was welcomed into Dinsmore & Shohl LLP’s Columbus office as an associate in September 2009 following a career in which he owned a record label, mainly supporting his band, Chicago-based Pinetop Seven, where he was songwriter, instrumentalist and singer.

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:09 (three months ago) link

https://web.archive.org/web/20110415193240/https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/10/11/focus3.html

Richard was surprised at the similarities between professions. Both involve problem solving, whether it’s working through the logistics associated with shipping six band mates overseas for a European tour or helping a client negotiate a commercial lease agreement.

“Playing music professionally is a collaborative endeavor,” Richard said.

A musician works with band mates on song arrangements, recording sessions and shows, as well as with label representatives and promoters to generate album sales and to fill seats at venues.

“Similarly, transactional legal work is collaborative,” Richard said.

An attorney advocates his client’s position, he said, but ultimately all sides want to close the deal, whether it’s an asset purchase or a recording contract.

The similarities end with the lifestyle. Richard said a typical day on the road started early and ended with dinner at 9 p.m. “Now, I’m in the office generally from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m,” he said.

Meeting with clients and opposing counsel with a speciality in entertainment law has replaced driving between venues and loading equipment. Writing and reviewing documents takes precedent over penning lyrics and arranging songs.

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:14 (three months ago) link

Imagine, two different professions that involve “problem solving”... what are the chances

Btw, here’s another lawyer who runs a record label.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:19 (three months ago) link

tbf environmental law is pretty noize

sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:39 (three months ago) link

I got lots of friends who had low- and mid-tier music careers who've moved on... some of them at a certain point felt impossibly famous, like they were part of ad campaigns, were working as models for certain designers, etc. etc.

Of all the secondary career moves that these people have taken, "therapist" seems to be the most prevalent. I can think of six musicians who're now working as therapists. All six of them, too, I'm like, "that sounds like a perfect job for you, you'd be a great therapist". All of them are so, so much happier!

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 May 2020 13:44 (three months ago) link


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