Rolling 2005 Metal Thread

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It has to be done. So, new stuff, stuff that is new to you, stuff you are looking forward to this year, etc, etc. And, ooh, unlike last year, I can totally download mp3s on this computer to my heart's content, so cool links are appreciated.

It's 9:30 A.M. where I am, so I must be listening to Usurper's Cryptobeast at top volume! I dig it. Great riffs! "Kill For Metal" must be a real crowd-pleaser live.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone got anything on the new Mercenary or Judas Priest (are they still "metal"?)?

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Judas Priest (are they still "metal"?)?

Ummm..what else would they be?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 January 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Not sure in this day and age. I was listening to an Ozzy Osbourne song this morning from about two decades ago and felt that it didn't sound any heavier than Pearl Jam did a decade ago. I figured in this day and age you had to sound like an atomic bomb dropping to be considered metal, perhaps.

Brett Hickman (Bhickman), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Teh Priest are very much still metal, although the closing track on their new album is 13 1/2 minutes long and is called 'Lochness'. On the 'not jumping the shark' thread I challenged Colin S Barrow's claim for Priest using this as evidence and he laughed at me. I don't think he's heard the track yet. Other than that the record is quite good.

Shoutouts for High On Fire and, although I haven't heard their new one yet, Stinking Lizaveta.

DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Metal Storm provide a comprehensive forthcoming releases list for extreme/ dark metal:

http://www.metalstorm.ee/bands/new_releases.php?coming=yes
Including confirmed front cover artwork.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

oh man, i want that new katatonia comp BAD. mostly for the dvd action. i want the new amon amarth too.

i second the high on fire love. i love the sound of it. and i wasn't a big fan of surrounded by thieves. i think albini is just getting better with age!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

what's up with new Kreator, are they still mired in a slump or are they Komeback Killers of the Year

Haibun (Begs2Differ), Friday, 21 January 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey Scott, I listened to the first couple of tracks on the Katatonia burn you sent me and they were great but the rest of the disc is damaged! :-( However, you have successfully whetted my curiosity. :-)

My own nomination for this thread is the new Daft Punk single. (And the High on Fire album, o' course.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

awww, i'm sorry, ned. blame maria, she burned it for me. i don't know how to do those things. maybe try it on another player? i skipped tru it on our cd boombox and it sounded okay, but i dunno....

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Trying to pass the blame on to your wife, what kind of husband are you? ;-) Fret not, my friend -- the point is, I shall definitely now search for them. Also, the tape loop thing was appropriately weird while Anti is sublime, and reminds me that you really need to hear some Raunchy Young Lepers. Everyone does.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not '05 obv., but I'm not bored by the Mastodon record anymore. In fact, I might even go so far as to say that it rocks.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Well done.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

JPT Scare Band is supposed to have a new one coming this year. A lot of it seems to be up as MP3 on their website. Everything I have from them pretty much rules.

George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Hm, and their website?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The endless heavy guitar jam, multiplied by ten.

George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

The endless heavy guitar jam, multiplied by ten.

George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

"while Anti is sublime"

isn't he though? they don't call him the death-metal Jandek for nothing! (oh wait,i'm the only one who calls him that.)


and ned, try and scam an AMG copy of the upcoming katatonia black sessions comp. all cool album tracks and single b-sides from discouraged ones on and a live dvd!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Frank Marino & Mahogany Rush's new live double is worth ear damage. It's given over to his old, old Frank pre-Columbia Records style ("Maxoom," "Child of the Novelty," "Strange Universe") and jazz fusion. Lots of guitar, psychedelic power trio drug rock, Return to Forever-isms if Return to Forever had been a metal band. Long "war" instrumental suite from "Child of the Novelty." Peace, love, bombs going off, songs for America and freedom that sound like wailing crowds and preparations for strategic and tactical bombings. Some Link Wray, Zombies cop, and 50's greaser rock licks, too. Pretty much everything plus the kitchen sink but without lots of endless blooz jams.

Odd, since I had really modest expectations for it.

George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked his last studio album (Eye Of The Storm, I think it was called). I've been trying to get a copy of this without having to pay for it, but I may surrender and cough up the cash soon.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The new Immolation is good, if you like them. Heavy, grunty, fast, lots of low-end.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I looked for my copy of Iron Maiden's Brave New World last night and couldn't find it. I actually think I might re-buy it.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 January 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

This is so horrible I had to include it, today's example of the LA Times' idea of hard rock coverage. Something precious, oh so precious. Wire copy, AP, inside -- probably ran in a hundred other places because of novelty value, like the Jap guy who marches in place while eating a hundred hotdogs in a few minutes.

When Mommy is a Headbanger

DALLAS - They're housewives, workaholics, PTA members and ... rock stars?

Women fighting to shatter the stay-at-home-mom stereotype and rediscover their youthful voice are forming bands, such as Housewives on Prozac in suburban New York, Frump in Dallas and Placenta in Oakland, Calif.

These moms are rocking the house and the cradle, singing about breast-feeding, exhaustion and making kids do their chores.

"I feel like what we do is remind people about their passion and that sense of importance and that sense of vitality," said Joy Rose, a 47-year-old mother of four who founded Housewives on Prozac in 1997. "Life is really short, and it's important to live colorfully."

Mothers have struggled for identity and fulfillment for decades, growing more exasperated with their increasing career and child-rearing demands, said University of Michigan professor Susan Douglas, who co-authored the book "The Mommy Myth."

She said those feelings may explain the growing number of mom rock bands. (Rose estimated there are about 50 active mom bands across the country, with 20 of them having been formed in the last year.)

"In our cultural common sense, what could be more opposite from the icon of mom than a punk rocker?" Douglas said.

Suzie Riddle, who has three children aged 19, 12 and 6, started Frump in 2001 as a gag for her 40th birthday party. A punk rocker in her youth, then a librarian, Riddle hounded other mothers at her church and her daughters' school until she found three women willing to play along.

At first, they performed five songs, including "Suzie Is A Headbanger" by the Ramones and "We're Really Beat," a song Frump guitarist Frances Peterson wrote to the tune of "We've Got the Beat" by the Go-Go's.

"See the mothers driving down the street, see their makeup melting in the heat, straight from work, the pantyhose are tight, it's take-out tonight," the song begins.

Three years later, the band has grown to five, adding new members as others have moved away. Frump practices every Saturday night and performs about once a month at parties, churches and community events such as the Punky Mamas Christmas Bazaar in Dallas.

The band members even encouraged their daughters to get involved, and the girls formed their own band called Spawn and have played at two gigs with their moms.

"It is the best feeling in the world," said Frump lead guitarist Diane Harris, whose 11-year-old daughter Anna plays drums in Spawn.

Frump is still trying to forge an identity, teetering between being a novelty and a serious band, Riddle said. She'd like to add a second weekly practice and focus on cultivating a unique sound.

But any group that bills itself as an all-mom garage band is going to get a few chuckles, she conceded.

"I am really proud of this, and I'm proud of the attention that it's gotten us," she said. "It's kind of a silly idea, and a lot of people have taken notice."

At the Punky Mamas Bazaar, an audience of mostly middle-aged women and their children clapped and tapped their feet to Frump's music, even getting up to dance to "Twist and Shout." A few young couples on a Saturday evening date watched from the back of a half-full dance hall.

Julie Hougland came with her 6-year-old daughter, her 55-year-old mother and her 35-year-old sister. She said she was surprised by how much fun they had.

"How many venues are there where I can take my daughter and dance?" Hougland said.

Rose hopes the movement soon will catch on commercially as more people see mom bands in concert. Housewives on Prozac has recorded two CDs and a holiday CD single, which is available on Amazon.com.

Several mom bands will converge on New York City throughout May for the fourth annual Mamapalooza festival. The festival, founded by Rose, will feature at least five days of events, including a free outdoor concert and a poetry and jazz night.

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This having been said, the fragment of the song "Pick Up Your Socks" made me laugh. Chuck Eddy to thread. Fly me into NYC and I'll cover Mamapalooza and do a MommyMetal review. Placenta, jeezus. All the best jokes get overtaken by real-life. Too bad no one would know the meaning of "Miltown" anymore.

George Smith, Friday, 21 January 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

i love tsjuder's "desert northern hell." it breaks no new ground, but is a well-done trip through immortal, celtic frost, satyricon, etc.

man, more jpt scare band - excellent. i have to pick up "past is prologue," i didn't even know that was out.

i really didn't like the new mastodon until i found myself walking around humming the riff to "iron claw." which compelled me to download it again. and buy it when i've got some cash.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 21 January 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

My own nomination for this thread is the new Daft Punk single.

That'll do as a spurious segue into mentioning that Earl Shilton, who used to be in Bolt Thrower, has remixed Alter Ego's 'Rocker'. Which is a genius piece of lateral thinking. The mix itself I cannot comment on as yet

DJ Mencap0))), Friday, 21 January 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Teh Priest are very much still metal, although the closing track on their new album is 13 1/2 minutes long and is called 'Lochness'. On the 'not jumping the shark' thread I challenged Colin S Barrow's claim for Priest using this as evidence and he laughed at me. I don't think he's heard the track yet.

-- DJ Mencap0)))

I merely pointed out that a 13 minute metal song about the Loch Ness Monster could only be brilliant. How could it possibly be bad? Even if it were a child banging on a plate for 13 minutes with a guitar solo (even a KK Downing guitar solo) over the top and Rob Halford going 'waaaaaaaaah! Hot rockin'', the fact remains that it would _still_ be a 13 minute metal song about the Loch Ness Monster, and therefore it would _still_ be brilliant.

But if you are right, if the impossible happens, and it turns out to be not brilliant, I promise you you will receive an apology from me sir.

thee music mole, Saturday, 22 January 2005 01:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Relapse has released three Live From The Relapse Contamination Festival CDs; one each by Bongzilla, Burnt By The Sun and Dysrhythmia. I got all three in the mail today. They're about 25 minutes long, containing each group's entire set (so more than you get on the DVD). Good sound quality, minimal packaging, and worth having, I think. The Bongzilla one seems like an inexplicable choice, especially given that Mastodon, Pig Destroyer and High On Fire also played the festival, but whatever. The Dysrhythmia and BBTS ones are excellent.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 22 January 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

what's up with new Kreator, are they still mired in a slump or are they Komeback Killers of the Year

Enemy of God is great.

Right now I'm nuts over Behemoth's Demigod, which surprised me how catchy it is for a black metal album. "Conquer All" totally rips off Anthrax's "Be All End All", but in a good way.

Also, I can't get enough of the new Cursed album. They start out sounding kind of Converge-y, but then a really cool sludge influence starts to pop in, and the album winds up sounding like early Mastodon. It's the best Canadian metal album I've heard in a while (though I expect the new Strapping Young Lad album to top it in a month or so).

a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 22 January 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

The new SYL is pretty good, but it's so over-the-top I can tell it's gonna take three or four listens before I can even make it through without needing a nap and a change of shirt.

Agree about Demigod; my review should be running in the East Bay Express in the next week or so. That guy's vocals sound like a blast furnace.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago) link

The new SYL is pretty good, but it's so over-the-top I can tell it's gonna take three or four listens before I can even make it through without needing a nap and a change of shirt.

"Shitstorm" is pretty killer...that's the only new SYL track I've heard so far.

a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 22 January 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

A Preview of 2005 - Grind & Tech
Article by Smathers - Uranium Music
http://www.uraniummusic.com/features/feature.php?id=26

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 28 January 2005 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

So does anybody have an opinion of Sturmgeist? *Meister Mephisto* strikes me as quite the hearty Walpurgisnacht fest, so far. Though they really should've made the cover look more like a bier stein.

chuck, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago) link

So does anybody have an opinion of Sturmgeist? *Meister Mephisto* strikes me as quite the hearty Walpurgisnacht fest, so far. Though they really should've made the cover look more like a bier stein.

Send a copy. Fast opinions guaranteed.

George Smith, Friday, 28 January 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw an ANGRA cd in the store yesterday.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure they suck now, but Holy Land is my favorite power metal album of all-time that wasn't recorded by Iron Maiden.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I've only heard two tracks so far, but I'm getting the feeling the new Mercenary album will wind up being one of my favourite albums of the year.

a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 28 January 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Quick notes on a couple veterans:

Samael's pretty much off on permanent tangent, but it's interesting. The new one is Rammstein + Egyptian music + the Dimmu Borgir black orchestra thing Samael invented. Pretty much hits the Satanic side of Soft Cell in a couple choice moments. Also remarkably mid-tempo -- some kind of Swiss timing thing.

Napalm Death's THE CODE IS RED...LONG LIVE THE CODE totally rages. Lots of simple hooky riffs at a faster speed than usual, it improves over the last two already good Napalm CDs. Not a bad Jello B. guest spot, either -- ie he does more than warble "yo yo yo" into the mic a couple times.

I also heard most of the new Hypocrisy over the weekend -- with Horgh of Immortal now on drums, it sounds like the shoegazer death metal of The Arrival landing over the tumult of Sons of Northern Darkness pt. II. Pretty powerful and vicious.

Even with the hiring of regional doom manager Joe Preston, can't work up the enthusiasm to listen to the new High on Fire. Well, there, I said it.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 29 January 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

the new high on fire is way more metal...i thought preston would bring the doom. its pretty hot none-the-less

ddb (ddb), Saturday, 29 January 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, you should listen to it, Ian. You might be surprised.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree, good stuff. But I would.

I also heard most of the new Hypocrisy over the weekend -- with Horgh of Immortal now on drums, it sounds like the shoegazer death metal of The Arrival landing over the tumult of Sons of Northern Darkness pt. II. Pretty powerful and vicious.

I am intrigued, very deeply.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

"I am intrigued, very deeply."


But you would be.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course. That is me, and I am love.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Napalm Death's THE CODE IS RED...LONG LIVE THE CODE totally rages. Lots of simple hooky riffs at a faster speed than usual, it improves over the last two already good Napalm CDs.

Can't wait to hear this one. Their recent covers album was one of the more underrated CDs from last year.

I'm liking the High on Fire album a lot. Albini has Kensel's drumming sounding monstrous.

a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the way Albini produces drums.

thee music mole, Saturday, 29 January 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

really - high on fire got the joe preston from the whip, not joe preston from thrones. and that's a damn fine thing.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 30 January 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm digging the blood red throne album i got in the mail. i don't know what's wrong with me. i've got a fever for da blastbeats. i really wanna hear that latest bloodbath album. i think i'm going back in time.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, the Mercenary's good, if a little samey, and it gets deeper and darker around "Sharpen the Edges." And shortly after that, there's this total crossover Bon Jovi/ Duran Duran sounding thing that I dug.

Samael seems VERY samey, though not always in a bad way.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 31 January 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

[quoting, of course, a. begrand up above, but not knowing how to do so]

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 31 January 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I seriously worry that I'm gonna blow my speakers every time I play the new High On Fire album. The drums are THAT loud. And I know, I know, If you seriously worry that you are gonna blow your speakers every time you play the new High On Fire album then you are too old and you probably remember the 60's. But I don't remember the 60's, really! My memory begins right around 1971. Something about the A&P, a first haircut, my big wheel and my dad playing maynard ferguson too loud. which he did often! and he's going to see maynard next week. he already has tickets!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Maynard is the Yngwie of jazz.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

armSTRONG. OVERkill. duh.

(And the stoner metal intention impression may or may not have come from the marshall stack on the cover of the CD. i should have known better. marshall stacks are the truckers hats of CD covers by now.)

xhuxk, Monday, 5 December 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

A trio of metal rock and roll things, so caveats apply to the non-rocking art house metal audience of 2005.

The Muggs -- terrible name, Detroit band that doesn't sound at like Detroit. Yay!!!! Sounds like mid-70's crunching white boy blooz raunch. Lots of guitar, weedy lead voice by guitarist. Drummer can play a good shuffle and therefore the band has groove. One of the tunes, a good one, recycles ZZ Top's "everybody get high high high" signature from "Thunderbird."

Fat Nancy Pure American Muscle, Baby Terrible name and terrible album title obscure quality. Dude from Circus of Power, who has been trying to make a fair to really good biker rock album for close to two decades, finally succeeds, all COP stuff being fit only for the trash. Lots of tuneful hard rock sung by a halfway decent vocalist.

Hognose Longhandle Stoner band from Texas who manage not to totally stink up the place by playing too slow. The best stuff is short form -- which is more than half -- and if you edit out the seven minute bubbling distortion dirges (something that can be done with most of the stoner metal records I've had in the last two year, thereby making them !new and improved!), it rocks. Usual stoner-type he-man going out to beat the dog behind the shed and then beat the wife after half a bottle of JD shit goddamn I'm a motherfuckin' Texas man vocals. They really should think up a new style and lose that. Claim to sound like ZZ Top but don't at all which doesn't detract from the enjoyable tunes.

George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I mention Hognose were from Texas? Ha-ha. What happened to SuperHeavyGoatAss who were from Texas, too, and did the same genre and wanted you to really know they were mothefuckin' Texan men, earlier this year? One of the contestants for most self-defeating band name ever!

Am listening to Confessor. I take back everything bad I ever said about Candlelight. Between this and Bronx Casket Co., they're good for a year. Have been putting off listening to Burst and In Flames. The packet of press that came with both was too much. Can't give 'em a fair shake until the spurting trash is out of my head.

George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like In Flames at all, and am unlikely to even give their new one a courtesy play.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 8 December 2005 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Muggs has the lead guitarist (ex- I guess) of the Paybacks. I should give them a spin for that reason alone.

Je4nn3 ƒuy¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

damn I love this Bolt Thrower album

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link

The Muggs has the lead guitarist (ex- I guess) of the Paybacks

He rocks in a first album by Stray Dog with Snuffy Walden before he went "thirtysomething" or "twentysomething" whatever that old show was called kind of way, which is pretty good. "Rolling B-side Blues" is one of the best tunes on the disc. So is the other with "Blues" in the title. I can do without the seven-minute thing at the end but since it's at the finish, you can lift the laser.

George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Electric Frankenstein's We Will Bury You buries you in two CDs worth of covers. Because of so much, it has something for everyone. I pared it down to one decent 40-minute CD of songs. "High Voltage" done really well. "Not For Sale," by Girlschool, excellent. "I Was a Punk Before You Were a Punk," by the Tubes, also great. "Don't Touch Me, I'm Electric," by Bill Nelson, a surprise, also a winner. "Wish You Were Here," basically wretched, but amusing. A fast version of the Dictators' "Borneo Jimmy" which improves the original, which I never thought was so hot. Etc.

George the Animal Steele, Friday, 9 December 2005 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link

"I Belive In A Thing Called Love" by, um, Seal.

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 9 December 2005 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Mistress on Candlelight/Earache which is apparently new old. Iron Monkey-modelled grindcore. That means you get the incoherent troll shouting in a language no one understands vocals. But the drummer is a good one and the groove is strong on a song labelled "Goatboy" and another called "Lord Worm," which is seemingly the climax of the album. The latter travels on a Bo Diddley beat seat to sludge grind for awhile before falling over at the halfway point to feedback and noise. Mistress could have edited it there and still had a sizeable number clocking in at four minutes. Instead they go to about a dozen.

Cover of "Whiplash" is fair. Cover of Tom Waits' "The World Died Screaming" is done as straight as a band of this type can manage and
turns out astonishingly good, easily the best tune on the CD. Plus it shows some love for blues and a faint grasp of melody.

George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 11 December 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't figure out why all the reviews I've seen of the new Darkness record are so majestically positive.

In it's second week of release The Darkness album has slipped to no 34 in the UK album charts. Down from it's 1st week entry of 11.

So the 'peoples band' can't blame the critics for 'the people' ignoring it if the album has had positive reviews.
Maybe a big hit single in 2006 will help it climb back up.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link

>Mistress on Candlelight/Earache which is apparently new old.

Their recent album In Disgust We Trust wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either. The two cover tunes you cite make me wanna hear the one you're talking about. Iron Monkey's first EP was okay if you really really really liked Eyehategod, but the cover art was better than the music, and by the time they got around to putting out their second album, with horrible cartoon cover art, it was all over. I did like the title of their third disc, though - We've Learned Nothing.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I've seen of the new Darkness record are so majestically positive.

The Rolling Stone review was essentially a pan with an olive twig or two thrown in. I still haven't heard it. Am unlikely to. I'm done with requesting promos of it. I carried enough of Darkness's water two years ago.

I good article could be written on the intersection of two facts: (1) Everyone who reviews the Darkness grabs their strong link to the sound of classic '70's metal and hard rock. The Darkness live or die by it. (2) In contrast with the classic '70's metal and hard rock bands they draw from, they took nothing from the models of music biz success those bands vigorously practiced. In other words, you could have a career if you releases at least one and often more than one album a year for a regular period.

Now perhaps The Darkness felt it didn't have to do that because it was a big deal in England. But every BIG band in the genre from the UK from their roots time DID adhere to a fast release schedule. Status Quo and Slade immediately come to mind. UFO certainly released many, many records. None of these bands let the grass grow under their feet. Neither did Queen. No one did. Period.

So what was and is in their heads? They've made their job impossible in the States without a breakthru hit on video in 2006. Goofs.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link

"Their recent album In Disgust We Trust wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either."

I luvved that thing! What's not to like?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Hoo-boy, I tried because it was recommended. Ed Gein. Plus the self-defeating name always makes curious. Will it be good enough to leave the CD case lieing around so as to annoy others in the house or make them laugh when they see the song titles? Sadly, full crashing show-stopper. Even short as it purported to be, couldn't get through it. What is it? Metal noise core modelled on the Locust or Dillinger Escape Plan?!? One of the bona fide unlistenables (which probably counts for something) I've run into this year, reserved a space in my head alongside Old Bombs.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

George -

The dichotomy between the Darkness's overtly 70s sound and their overtly 2000s (and, make no mistake, label-mandated) production rate is interesting, and I agree it could be part of their downfall. (The other big part is that they're yet another UK band that thinks being the hype-toys of the UK press means something - anything - in America.) I would love it if bands hewed to the work ethic of Ted Nugent in his prime - five studio albums and a double live disc between 1975 and 1980. But the big labels want an album every 2-4 years from the acts they're pumping the hardest. Shit, look at what happened to Prince - WB pretty much ordered him to shove the vast majority of his output back on the shelf.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

At first, I was thoroughly into the Darkness album. A few weeks have passed and now I like some songs, but as a whole album, eh, it's fine. But "Knockers" is one of the funnest songs I've heard in a really long time. I think they tried to do waaaay too much -- essentially write their equivalent of "The Sound of Music" soundtrack -- but the result was an album that dropped like a steel turd. (And not in the positive sense of the term.)

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Monday, 12 December 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

But the big labels want an album every 2-4 years from the acts they're pumping the hardest.

Yeah, I agree, Phil. It's just damn foolish. Since audiences are more fickle now and have a lot more to divert them, you just kill yourself by not keeping in front of people -- good, bad or indifferent. It's no more hard now to produce a hard rock album than it was in 1975. Technology and experience has actually made it magnitudes easier.

I fail to understand the artificial barriers to publishing combined with the let's-sit-on-our-asses-for-a-good-long-while practice of The Darkness. Without a substantial miraculous hit, they're in for a rude months-long shock when they get back here to tour. Keep it up, and in another year, they'll be lucky to be booked in the standard metro-dives in ten of the biggest cities.

In other matters, Saxon had been skedded to play an Allentown metro-dive and the show fell through. Struck down by US policy in the war on terror and inability to get past the border for unspecified flimsy reasons. Or maybe they just didn't really want to come. Anyway, Exodus and Three Inches of Blood had been there a week or so prior, my colleague tells me, and that show was a good one.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 12 December 2005 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

>Without a substantial miraculous hit, they're in for a rude months-long shock when they get back here to tour. Keep it up, and in another year, they'll be lucky to be booked in the standard metro-dives in ten of the biggest cities.

I'm starting to have the same worries w/r/t Rammstein. I got their new album last week, and it's fantastic, stronger than its predecessor which had two or three videos that got brief MTV attention (on Headbangers' Ball anyway), but it doesn't have a US release date yet as far as I know, and they haven't toured the US since about 2001 or 2002, when they were supporting Korn and Limp Bizkit on one of the early Anger Management runs. I wonder if their label has decided not to bother trying to get them any bigger in America than they were a few years ago. If so, that'd be a damn shame.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 12 December 2005 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't like In Flames at all, and am unlikely to even give their new one a courtesy play.

I like the album quite a bit. I was one of the few who liked Soundtrack in 2004, but the new one sounds considerably better, more dual guitar stuff, which I'm always a sucker for.

a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid I'm with Phil on In Flames. Like Ed Gein, the new one derailed almost instantaneously.

Now, amazingly, I've had an opp to listen to The Darkness. The mark
of Roy Thomas Baker is strong upon it. They or someone must've dragged him out of retirement with the promise that he could go to town. Anyway, I'm still with the conviction they've waited too long but the title cut and "Knockers" right off the bat give the label things to work. The title cut is slightly better -- it has a wonderful chorus hook -- and a sitar break in it not played by a sitar, but probably by a Variax guitar. It's a guitar with a computer in it that emulates vintage instruments, and it works, and it has sitar algorithms in it, that sound just like what is on the Darkenss LP. I know 'cuz I have one. For the Darkness, it sounds like a sitar but played like a metal guitarist would play, which is what you get when a guitarist does that with a Variax. Trivial, but it made me laugh.

Also the "Knockers" refrain, "I like what you've done with your hair" and rhyming "busty" with "I'm rusty." I suspect the humor will be lost on most of the potential US audience.

So there's a chance.

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 06:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus, you know, it's just fun to walk around proclaiming your love for "Knockers." ;)

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I've liked some In Flames in the past (*Whoracle*, for the guitar tapestries mostly, and that EP where they went sort of dance-industrial and covered "Land of Confusion" by Genesis, a catchy sellout as far as I could tell); haven't heard or seen the new one.

Speaking of dance-industrial, can anybody explain by what logic Nine Inch Nails get classified as "hard rock" but Rammstein and Ministry get nominated as "metal" by the Grammy nominees? ....Well, I guess Ministry and Rammstein *are* more metal; I never gave a shit about NIN and never will, and I haven't made it through a Ministry album in at least a decade, and never even knew Rammstein (who I like) put out a new album this year, so big whoop. But all three of those bands, I'd think, have more in common with *each other* than with the other respective bands in their categories (Audioslave, Queens of the Stone Age, System of a Down, Robert Plant in hard rock; Mudvayne, Shadows Fall, Slipknot in metal). Seems almost arbitrary. Which maybe it is. (I'd never call System of a Down "hard rock" either, but whatever. By now, they probably belong in the world music category. Just kidding.)

xhuxk, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link

>never even knew Rammstein (who I like) put out a new album this year

The way the Grammys work, aren't they nominated for something off Reise, Reise anyway?

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

my fave article about all those u.s. troonekroblackmetal dudes:

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2006/twilight.aspx

plus, one cool thing about the newly revamped decibel site is you get a full archive of old reviews. read all about how much i liked that Ed Gein album for free!

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews.aspx

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

finally got around to listening to Confessor yesterday...wish I'd gotten to it in time for my Decibel list, that shit is AWESOME

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link

A credit to New York State!

George the Animal Steele, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I would have voted for the Confessor too if I had heard it earlier.


I finally broke down and bought that double vinyl Xasthur album that has been staring at me at the record store. That and a Frost 7 inch on Southern Lord. Nekro, Tru, whatever, I am a sucker for that shoegazer BM. The record store dudes are heading up to Boston to see Malefic perform with SUNN(((((())))))))))))****&&, but I am not cuz i am lame(((())))))

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I received an e-mail earlier today that Don Caballero have signed with Relapse. Does this mean they're metal enough that I should try listening to their earlier albums?

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link

The question around here is: will Malefic perform at the Philly show? Not only is it in a church, they're playing the sanctuary!

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm really taken aback by how impressive the new Green Carnation album is. Normally, acoustic albums by metal bands are snoozefests, but this one's actually pretty cool. Most impressively, they actually show (gasp) restraint throughout.

a. begrand (a begrand), Friday, 16 December 2005 08:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm still working my way through the Loudness catalog Wounded Bird splurged on late in the year. A number of these were never released in the US so it's a surprise that Loudness went from being a mispackaged very heavy pretty boy party metal band with US frontman adopted for the American market to something much better. Essentially, the American left and the original throat, who had been left behind in Japan, were replaced with the singer from EZO.

EZO, as far as I knew them, had been a Gene Simmons import job. Saw them live wherein they dressed up as weird combo of Kabuki and geishas. They were a little arty and totally hookless but very rhythmic and pounding and the audience, average metal fans in some dirtbag venue in the Lehigh Valley, were left silent. My drummer liked them because they invited him backstage after the set and turned out to be hard to understand but warmly hospitable for a place that had been totally inhospitable to them.

So Loudness transforms into this relentless and merciless pounding act with a raw screaming singer. The change in style accidentally (or maybe not) takes them into rhythmic grind. The main man remains the guitarist, Takasaki, who destroys, which sets them apart from everyone else since he has a tendency to go between Yngwie Euro-shred to bluesy fills and nasty standard hard rock comping. A lot of the operatic style they were known for early on is also subdued and these albums -- Heavy Metal Hippies and Loudness -- are uniformly good, even excellent in some parts.

George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 17 December 2005 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's an anonymous Sunn review from Philly.

"...went to Philly for the show at the church. It was CRAZY. We got in and these two monk-looking duded opened the door and the entire church was filled with smoke and there was just this incredible DRONE vibrating throughout the whole place. Malefic sang...he's a strange dude. It was cool."

My mission at the roadrunner office party at nokia the other night was to school europeans that SUNN does not rhyme with SANYO. "Oh, it's like an emoticon" said the German. Yes.

The roadrunner party was a hell of a good party, and a fun show. Glen Benton wore his full iron face mask, and two of the best speed metal guitarists ever created, Andreas Kisser and Jeff Waters, dueled on "Curse of the Pharoahs." And the Trivium guys shredded impressively in unison on two of Dimebag's guitars on loan. Greatest office party ever.


Is there already a Loudness - Disillusion Japanese vocals version vs. English vocals version thread?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

This is not to be missed -- should cure some of you of your allergy to speed metal, or kill you:

Brazil's Marquee Records has just re-released the second album from legendary Canadian thrashers SACRIFICE, entitled "Forward to Termination". It comes as a double CD in a limited-edition hand-numbered slipcase and contains a massive booklet with liner notes by Laurent Ramadier, live pictures and personal comments by Joe Rico (guitar), Rob Urbinati (guitar, vocals), Scott Watts (bass) and Gus Pynn (drums). The reissue features 42 songs in total, all remastered from the originals by Sidney Sohn (NASTY SAVAGE, IRON ANGEL). The complete track listing is as follows:

Disc 1:

"Forward to Termination"

01. Forward to Termination
02. Terror Strikes
03. Re-Animation
04. Afterlife
05. Flames of Armageddon
06. The Entity
07. Forever Enslaved
08. Cyanide
09. Light of the End
10. Pyrokinesis

"FTT" Demo

11. Forward to Termination
12. Pyrokinesis
13. Cyanide
14. Forever Enslaved
15. Afterlife
16. Possession

Live Tracks (Various '87/'89)

17. The Exorcism
18. In Defiance
19. Afterlife
20. Flames of Armageddon
21. Pyrokinesis

Disc 2:

Live In Kitchener, Ontario, Canada (July 25, 1986)

01. Forward to Termination
02. Sacrifice
03. Homicidal Breath
04. Infernal Visions
05. Decapitation
06. Cyanide
07. Afterlife
08. Possession
09. Pyrokinesis
10. Necronomicon
11. Beyond Death

Live In Rochester, NY (December 11, 1988)

12. Pyrokinesis
13. Sacrifice
14. Flames of Armageddon
15. Lost through Time
16. Storm in the Silence
17. The Entity
18. Re-animation

Live at Iloiko’s in Toronto, Canada (January 29, 1987)

19. Terror Strikes
20. Forever Enslaved
21. Re-animation

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

the philly sunn gig was insane. the dry ice dissipated just enough to see malefic as he took the stage front and center. the sound was great and the sanctuary was the perfect place for the gig.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I received an e-mail earlier today that Don Caballero have signed with Relapse. Does this mean they're metal enough that I should try listening to their earlier albums?

Through a distortion pedal.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link

someone sent me live in 2004 motorhead dvd in the mail. that was nice of them. happy lemmydays.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 17 December 2005 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Brazil's Marquee Records has just re-released the second album from legendary Canadian thrashers SACRIFICE, entitled "Forward to Termination".

greatness!!! they did a really nice job on the torment in fire reissue.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

does marquee have a website?

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.marquee.com.br/


Kayo Dot reminds me of a cool, underloved mid-90s Cargo Records band called Creedle.

The Scum supergroup record is a near-miss, but I'm glad I have it.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 18 December 2005 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link

The Sword's promo looked interesting but didn't deliver. Yet. Maybe it needs more tolerance. But my take was Texan stoner metal with the shit-goddamn-I'm-a-mutherfuckin'-Texas-man-who-plays-Dungeons-n-Dragons vocals. Well played, but boy are those stock stoner metal riffs and rhythms worn threadbare. I have no idea what makes this different, from say, Hognose, other than cover art and subject matter.

eMusic has some of the Ted Nugent catalog, the stuff not owned by the big label which made him a star. And I'd go into a lot of it but Nugent from the 80's was definitely worth the download and burn. St. Holmes came back to the fold and Nuge promised a returned to the sound of Ted Nugent but he did the production himself which pretty much ensured it wouldn't quite get there. But some of it does and the last two numbers, "Let's Rock Tonight" and "Tailgunner" which make up about ten minutes, are excellent recreations of the style and vibe, pretty much ignored by everyone when the record came out.

I was suprised because I'd ignored it in favor of Little Miss Dangerous which was Ted thinking he was going to be a Tv or movie star and up there with the Miami Vicers. I still like that, it's the oddest and most experimental (if Ted could ever be said to be "experimenting") sounding record in his catalog. But I recommend Nugent to longtime fans.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 19 December 2005 01:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I received an e-mail earlier today that Don Caballero have signed with Relapse. Does this mean they're metal enough that I should try listening to their earlier albums?

i got that mail too and really, that's a strange deal. They're not metal at all, maybe they've changed there style to meth-rock (as in metal combined with mathrock hah)

rizzxxx, Monday, 19 December 2005 09:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Nugent's 80s albums, including Nugent, were reissued, remastered, by Spitfire right around the time of the totally ignored/underrated (by pretty much everybody except me and George) Craveman.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Listening to the "Vertigo mixed by Andy Votel" comp, frickin' great! They call it "hairy funk" on the cover sticker which is about right. I guess a party mix involving Nucleus, Aphrodite's Child, Atlantis and Flied Egg (among others) is going to lose some of the original musical intent, but at least you're spared 7 minute organ solos by guys that look like this :

http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGCOVERS/music/cover200/drg700/g773/g77390thctt.jpg

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link

There weren't no organ solos in Baker-Gurvitz Army. There was "Mad Jack," a song composed by Baker. It was seven minutes long and quite amusing, in the same was as "Pressed Rat and Warthog." And you can find "Mad Jack" on dat dere CD, which you might pair with Three Man Army's retrospective.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 19 December 2005 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

a. begrand, i really dug your year-end list. enjoyable reading:


http://www.popmatters.com/columns/begrand/051219.shtml

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Adrien Begrand list love seconded.

ng-unit, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks, guys.

a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link

For anyone who needs a laugh -- go to www.karkis.net and watch the video for "Secret Satan."

Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 22 December 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
TORE TOIVICCOS-T. asks Denmark to apologise him
TORE TOIVICCO asks Denmark to apologise him,BECAUSE OF OBVIOUS SURVEILLANCE of AND INTERFERENCE in HIS LIFE, DONE BY DANISH PEOPLE IN DENMARK DURING LAST 5 YEARS,OR MORE.THOUGH THIS CAN BE(AND MOST LIKELY IS)A MATTER OF ILLUMINATI,BUT DANISH OFFICIALS IGNORING MY PLEAS OF HELP, AND NOT INVESTIGATING THIS MATTER,IS WHY I ASK DANISH GOVERNMENT TO APOLOGISE ME,AND GIVE ME AN ECONOMICAL COMPENSATION,AND MY RIGHTS BACK IN DENMARK,SO THAT I CAN FREELY MEET MY LOVED ONES IN DENMARK,AND WALK FREELY IN DENMARK.
(last weekend 7-8.4.2006 I GOT DISTURBED OR ATTACKED 4 TIMES IN COPENHAGEN AREA.THIS HAPPENED AFTER I HAD PUBLISHED LINK WHICH CRITICIZES FREE MASONS CHILD SEX RINGS:/ (SOURCE:FARQUHAR :
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/stopchildrape.net/internet_problem.html )

AS LONG AS THIS AND MORTENSENS HAVE NOT BEEN HANDLED TORE TOIVICCO ASKS UN SEND UN PEACE CORPS TO DENMARK:
I ASK UNITED NATIONS TO SEND UN PEACE CORPS TO DENMARK TO QUARANTEE HUMAN RIGHTS AND EQUALITY FOR IMMIGRANTS AND MAKE LIFE SAFE HERE FOR IMMIGRANTS AND MUSLIMS.

DANISH PEOPLE DOESN´T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT IMMIGRANTS SHOULD HAVE SAME RIGHTS AS ANYONE ELSE.I CALL THIS DANSKCRIMINATION-IF IMMIGRANT COMPLAINS ABOUT CRIMES DONE TO HIM, DANISH PEOPLE MAY LAUGH, OR ONLY STATE THAT THATS NOT A CRIME,OR WE CAN´T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS HOW DANISH PEOPLE HAVE PROVOKED MUSLIMS BY USING PICTURES OF MOHAMMED(=BLASHEMY OF ISLAM).

I HAVE IN MY OPEN LETTER TO SVALI WRITTEN ABOUT MY SITUATION IN DENMARK,AND IT´S BASICLY THAT OFFICIALS ARE NOT INTERESTED TO HANDLE MATTERS THEY SHOULD,SO I DON´T GET ANY SERVICE FROM DANISH OFFICIALS, EXCEPT THOSE THINGS THEY CANNOT DENY FROM ME (BEING TO OBVIOUS RACISM).I HOPE THAT JESUS HELPS ME TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY AND GIVES ME CHANCE TO GET MY LOVED ONES IN DENMARK BACK TO ME.AND STOP THIS POSSIBLE CRIME OF "ILLUMINATI"-PEOPLE AGAINST ME,IN WHICH THEY HAVE STOPPED ME TO MEET OR SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY CLOSE TO ME,OR WOULD HAVE BEEN UNLESS SEPARATED FROM ME,WITH THE HELP OF OFFICIALS/THEIR CONNECTIONS.BECAUSE OF CRAZY "ILLUMINATI"-CONNECTED PEOPLE(BRØNDBY?)?JESUS LET IT BE CLEARED WHAT IS SITUATION REGARDING MY CHILD AND PERSONS WHOM I LOVE,LET ME GET JUSTICE HAPPEN IN DENMARK,AND LET ME BECOME FREE TO TALK TO THEM AND MEET THEM FREELY.

IMMIGRANTS REPLIES ARE MOSTLY REMOVED FROM DANISH DEBATES(IMMIGRANTS ARE UNDER SURVEILLANCE IN DENMARK?)THESE KIND OF THINGS I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN SOL.DK,JUBII.DK AND LIBERATOR.DK -DEBATES.THIS WOULD BE RACISM OR NAZISM- DANSKCRIMINATION?MY MYMUSIC.DK MESSAGE HAS PROPABLY DISAPPEARED ALSO, IMMEDIATELY AFTER I HAD FINALLY GOTTEN IT ALMOST PERFECT.

Here is part of my letter to SVALI(EX-ILLUMINATI-MEMBER)
YESTERDAY 18.2.I GOT FOLLOWED BY 2 MEMBERS FROM PLACE WHERE I USE COMPUTER,AND DSB(DANISH RAILWAYS)INSPECTOR WHOM I COMPLAINED WHEMN I WAS THREATENED BY VIOLENCE,JUST LAUGHED AND ASKED TO CALL POLICE,INSTEAD OF DOING IT HIMSELF.THOUGH SITUATION GOT HANDLED,BUT NOW THOSE PEOPLE,GANGMEMBERS?- ARE AFTER ME?I CANNOT USE INTERNET FREELY,OR BE FREELY IN COPENHAGEN.TODAY ONE OMEMBER FROM INTERNET-PLACE WAS AT STATION WHICH I USE WHEN I GO TO COPENHAGEN.HE HAS EARLIER DISTURBED ME IN THAT INTERNET CAFE.ONE OF THOSE EPOPLE IS PROPABLE PET,OR SOMEKIND OF OFIICIAL CONECTED PERSON(DANISH).I GUESS I AM UNDER CONTROL, OR ALSO MY INTERNET -USE.SOMEOONE WAS STANDING SECRETLY BEHINSD ME YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS USING COMPUTER.
THIS IS ONLY ONE DAYS HAPPENINGS, BUT THIS KIND OF THINGS HAPPENS ALMOST EVERYDAY, EXCEPT THAT THERE IS NO VIOLENCE(ESPECIALLY IF I ALWAYS AVOI! D it="GO" ÁWAY).I GUESS IT´S POSSIBLE THEY TRY TO MAKE ME SOMETHING STUPID,GET ANGRY,VIOLENT,ETC.SO THAT THEY CAN JUST DESTROY ME.
THIS MAY BE ALSO A WAY TO STOP ME SEEING PEOPLE IN COPENHAGEN,BECAUSE THIS WEEK WAS A WINTER-HOLIDAY IN DENMARK, AND THEREFORE I COULD HAVE MET SOME PEOPLE I CANNOT NORMALLY EVER MEET IN COPENHAGEN, SO NOW I AM STOPPED TO GO TO COPENHAGEN CITY.THIS WOULD FIT ILLUMINATI-THEORY,ILLUMINATI BEING BEHIND THIS DISCRIMINATION AND CONTROL OF MY LIFE HERE.
I GUESS THIS CAN BE DANISH OR EVEN INTERNATIONAL ILLUMINATI/FREEMASON-MAFIA.IN DENMARK IS PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD.WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?INSPECTOR YESTERDAY DIDN´T GAVE HIS NAME.

Things like what happened 10.3.(BROENDBY STRAND) must be stopped.AM I UNDER SURVEILLANCE IN DENMARK?

F.EX. NOW THERE HAS BEEN GANGS IN SAME BUSSES I AM USING,AND THIS IS NOT NORMAL.BY USING MOBILES F.EX. DANISH FREE MASONS AND THEIR CONNECTIONS MAY MOBILIZE 10000-100000 PEOPLE IN COPENHAGEN AREA.IF THEY USE THIS AGAINST ME I BEING ALONE CANNOT DO ANYTHING.THEREFORE I AM AFRAID TO MOVE IN DENMARK.

DANSKCRIMINATION:"LIVING IN DENMARK IS A PARTY FOR DANISH PEOPLE BUT MADE A NIGHTMARE FOR IMMIGRANTS"

Have I been under surveillance IN DENMARK,AND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP ME OR INVESTIGATE IT?IF THIS IS THE CASE,I THEREFORE ASK COMPENSATION OF AT LEAST 14 MILLION US DOLLARS,AND THAT EVERYTHING IS MADE GOOD AGAIN.OTHERWISE I HAVE NO LIFE IN DENMARK,AND WE HAVE DISCRIMINATION OR PERSECUTION HERE?AND UN SHOULD SET SANCTIONS TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION.
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NOTES(DON´TAKE THESE opinions SERIOUSLY if you feel bad about them:)
_I WANT TO STATE THAT MOST OF COLOURED IMMIGRANTS IN DENMARK ARE NOT PROB-LEM AND THEY ARE PART OF NORMAL LIFE IN DENMARK.I THINK MOST PROBLEMS IN DENMARK ARE CAUSED BY DF-PARTYS STATEMENTS AGAINST IMMIGRANTS AND JP-NEWSPAPERS MOHAMMED-DRAWINGS,AND THESE THINGS MAY BE MEANT TO IRRITATE MUSLIMS IN DENMARK ,AND WORLDWIDE?
-I AM A CHRISTIAN AND I ACCEPT ALL MUSLIMS AND RELIGIONS ,UNLESS THEY ACTIVELY DO CRIMES(SATANISM?)AND I THINK THAT MOST CHRISTIANS ACCEPT MUSLIMS IN DENMARK,AND THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PROBLEMS BETWEEN THESE 2 RELIGIONS.
-ALSO IN YUGOSLAVIA MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS HAD LIVED IN PEACE LONG TIME,BUT WHEN RADOVAN KARADZIC CAME IN TO POWER,THERE STARTED TO BE RACE HATE-PROPAGANDA.
-IT´S ALSO SAID THAT THERE WOULDN´T BE ANY RIOTS IN GHETTOS IN USA, UNLESS MEDIA WOULDN´T CREATE THEM.
*****
THERE HAS BEEN MUSLIM RAGE TOWARDS DENMARK.ANYWAY IT´S STRANGE THAT MUSLIMS HAVE NOT RAGED AGAINST RADOVAN KARADZIC(UNDER HIS REGIME THERE WERE about 100000-200000 MUSLIMS KILLED AND ABOUT 40000 MUSLIM WOMEN RAPED IN SERBIA.)
HAS MEDIA SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS-IS MEDIA MANIPULATING OPINIONS OF MASSES?
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MOST OF MY WRITINGS MAY FEEL STRANGE TO READERS WHO HAVE NO EXPERIENCE ABOUT OCCULT OR SATANIC GROUPS, BUT THOSE ONES WHO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS MAY KNOW EVERYTHING TO BE TRUE.(OF COURSE I CAN BE WRONG.I HOPE I WE-RE...)OF COURSE IT´S NOT EASY TO KNOW ABOUT THOSE THINGS ,BECAUSE THEY ARE HIDDEN.
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_DANISH ILLUMINATI SYSTEM?:
IMMIGRANT GANGS HANDLE "PROBLEMS",AND POLICE IGNORES?NØRREBRO IS KEPT FREE AREA FOR IMMIGRANT GANGS,CHRISTIANIA FOR DRUG DEALING(HELLS AN-GELS/BANDIDOS?)
POLICE IS STATISFIED WHEN CRIMINALS KEEP PEOPLE UNDER THEIR COMMAND AND THEY DO NOTHING TO STOP THIS?POLICE STANDS AND ALLOWS ATTACKERS WALK FREE?
*****
DANSKCRIMINATION:ONE WAY HOW DENMARK STOPS INTEGRATION IS TO STOP IMMIGRANTS FROM CHATTING AND DEBATTING?
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POST DANMARK STOPS LETTERS GOING OUT FROM DENMARK?IT´S NOT POSSIBLE TO GET DATA FREELY OUT FROM DENMARK? Maybe not even e-mails?
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TORE TOIVICCO asks Denmark to apologize :
STASI,hk,
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IF SOMEONE HAD BEEN WITH ME AT LEAST ONE WEEKS TIME IN DENMARK, HE WOULD PROPABLY HAD UNDERSTOOD WHAT MY SITUATION IS.BUT WITHOUT BEING WITH ME,IT´S MAYBE IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND.
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DANSKCRIMINATION:
DANISH NEWSPAPER TESTED HOW DANISH OFFICES ARE ANSWERING TO IMMIGRANTS WHO CALLED AND WANTED TO RENT AN APARTMENT.ANSWERS PROVED THAT DANISH PEOPLE TOLD IMMIGRANTS MUCH LONGER WAITING TIME THAN TO DANISH CALLERS.
*****
_Illuminati business denmark?:
I guess it can be that Illuminati-elite in Denmark GETS money FROM INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS MADE BY "ILLUMINATI-IMMIGRANTS/ ILLUMINATI ORGANIZATIONS/FIRMS-BUSINESSES".DRUG TRADE?SEX?
*****
"IMMIGRANTS MAY NOT BE INTEGRATED INTO DANISH SOCIETY.THEY MAY NOT BECOME PART OF DANISH SOCIETY."
*****
DANISH IMAM AKKARI MADE A JOKE ABOUT KILLING A PRIME MINISTER,WHILE AKKARI WAS TALKING WITH SOME OF HIS MUSLIM FRIENDS.THIS WAS SECRETLY TAPED,AND HE HAD TO MOVE OUT FROM DENMARK.
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DANISH ATTITUDE?:"IT´S A CRIME TO LIVE IN DENMARK IF YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT."
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______________________________
SAID BY CIA-AGENT LEE HARVEY OSWALD(USA,1963) and CITIZEN TORE
TOIVICCO(Denmark,2005):
" I do request someone to come forward to give me legal assistance. "
(PÅ DANSK: JEG BEDER OM AT NOGEN KOMMER OG GIVER MIG JURIDISK
BISTAND")
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TORE TOIVICCO IS A CHRISTIAN POLITICIAN,pop-ARTIST AND RESEARCHER OF
SATANISM
AND SATANIC CRIME.(I HAVE USED WORDS SATANISM,NEW WORLD ORDER AND ILLUMINATI/-MANAGEMENT/ADMINISTRATION TO DESCRIBE THAT PROPABLE ADMINISTRATION WHICH HAS HIDDEN POWER ON EARTH DECIDING ABOVE GOVERNMENTS.I DON´T WANT THESE WORDS TO BE USE! D AGAINST ANY MEMBER OF ANY RELIGION OR ANYONE WHATEVER RELIGIOUS BELIEFS HE HAS,or anything I can be accused.COPYRIGHT TORE TOIVICCO AND OTHER COPYRIGHT OWNERS or copyright holders.
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