New Kids on the Block: RFD, Classic or dud?

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A friend told me he realized that every woman with whom he will ever be involved will have been a fan of NKOTB in her childhood. (Do not argue the gender stereotype in this statement - it's just something he said.) So have we had a thread yet about what was possibly the biggest mass pop phenomenon of the past 15 years?

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I really don't know squat about boy bands, but I am surprised they were bigger than NSync and Backstreet Boys, but I'll believe it if you say so. It seems as time goes on, newer acts just sell more records for some reason. I saw an NSync doll this Christmas!!

Nude Spock, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Your friend is correct. My sister was way into them. I kinda like this one song they did called "Tonight". It was one of the later hits ('round 1990, I think, & off of the second album). It sounds like a Paul McCartney song.

Did New Kids on the Block have competition from another 5-white-guy group (ala Backstreet Boys/N'Sync)? I can't remember.

Oliver, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe the lack of competition is what kept NKOTB from scaling the artistic heights of Backstreet & 'N'Sync. Like the Beach Boys would never have made Pet Sounds without the Beatles.

Mark, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

A wonderful photo moment -- my friends Jake and Ben singing "Hanging Tough" very loudly at a karaoke night with the words "We're rough" printed on the screen behind them. Were they in a band together, it would be the perfect cover shot.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Did New Kids on the Block have competition from another 5-white-guy group (ala Backstreet Boys/N'Sync)? I can't remember.

There was The Boys Next Door. No, not the early incarnation of the Birthday Party, it was a Saturday Morning live action show on NBC to capitalize on the popularity of NKOTB, a Monkees for the '90's if you would, aboot a boy band who lived in a house together, doing wacky stuff, and a music video to cap off the show. Sank without a splash. Classic.

Vic Funk, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Would Bros count?

sundar subramanian, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

God, maybe NKOTB really are forgotten.

Mark, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I went tot heir concert in brisbane, february 1992, we had to take my best friend's little sister, because we got to go to nirvana/violent femmes the month before...we wore our metaliica shirts, almost started a riot by screaming DOOONNNNNNNY at the top of our voice and pointing in a random direction, and made his sister cry by yelling Donny's a fascist and giving the seig heil signs all through the concert. God, it was fun.

Geoff, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Well, I had two of their tapes (both gifts by the way) when I was like nine years old. My guess would be that it was one of those things you had to "like" just to be remotely socially acceptable, like sticker collections in first grade, Kirk Cameron a couple years later, New Kids in late elementary/early middle school, just like all the guys had Beastie Boys License to Ill. If most early-20s women are like me then yeah, they were prob all "fans."
However I never cared all that much, so I'm only embarrassed about this when my best friend points out that at the same age she was getting detention for listening to the Sex Pistols.

daria gray, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Donny's perf in Band of Brothers was a masterpiece of understatement. That is, he didn't really do much except look worried.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
does anyone by any chance have an mp3 of the c&c remix of 'step by step' that they could share with me?

minna (minna), Sunday, 6 July 2003 09:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i used to have that on cassette. i wish i'd never gone through my "i'm so embarassed i ever liked nkotb" phase. *cries*

di smith (lucylurex), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i saw the video for "hangin tough" on vh1 classic the other day and there wasn't a single redeeming feature about it

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:59 (seventeen years ago) link

oh you fib

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 7 July 2003 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

serious! i was actually waiting to see a new kids video as an adult, to see if my childhood hatred was unfounded and there was actual a chewy nougat pop center. totally lumbering, by the numbers song filled to bursting with sickly sounding, then currently mod signifiers (like scritti with all the latent weirdness sucked out leaving only the surface gloss). ghastly.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 7 July 2003 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

you got the right stuff is much better, jess.

di smith (lucylurex), Monday, 7 July 2003 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, i'm not gonna castigate them outta hand only hearing one song

ugh, i just remembered that one line..."been around the world/met a lot of people/and girls"

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 7 July 2003 00:14 (seventeen years ago) link

a bunch of working class kids from the roughs of boston. so they were a bunch of dancing white kids, but they loved em at the apollo. props.

Elmo Oxygen (elmo oxygen), Monday, 7 July 2003 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm walkin, i'm talkin, macauley culkin

g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Monday, 7 July 2003 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i found the mp3!
if anyone wants it i put it online

it's amazing! it's like the early 90s compressed into one track - pump up the jam vs nkotb + apache tossed in at various key points (eg. under the 'step 1 - we can have lots of fun' breakdown!)

jess their best songs are step by step (original mix), the right stuff, tonight and cover girl. hangin tough is ok tho!

minna (minna), Monday, 7 July 2003 07:19 (seventeen years ago) link

oops that first link won't work, try here instead

minna (minna), Monday, 7 July 2003 07:23 (seventeen years ago) link

cmon everybody do the new kids dance!

minna (minna), Monday, 7 July 2003 07:25 (seventeen years ago) link

My mom gave me a copy of "Hangin' Tough" for Christmas and I gave it to my sister THAT DAY, which totally pissed off my elders (evidently my mom had seen me write to a pen pal/NKOTB nut that they were "ok," and mistook that kindness for sincere fanship). That same Christmas I got the B-52's "Cosmic Thing" which remains one of my favorite albums of all time.

Anyhow, some of the NKOTB singles are pleasant, but nowhere as good as the New Edition numbers they ape ("Is This The End?" beats "Please Don't Go Girl" and so on). The Step By Step songs are more interesting in their mix of ambitiousness and chintz. "Tonight" has nostalgiac lyrics and a Beatles trumpet, while Step By Step has swirling strings and "Games" is all rap-happy in much less lame way then "Hangin' Tough." Their video comps are the bomb. Stick with those if you're looking for entertainment from these guys.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tonight" is god-awful, you guys! The only worthwhile New Kids song is "The Right Stuff".

Have I told the story of how my wife accidentally dissed the New Kids to their faces?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tonight" is awful in the best way a song can be awful, Dan. More shitty bands should write songs about their previous hits. I wanna hear Creed sing about how One took us Higher and showed us What This Life's For and how the audience freed Scott Stapp from his Own Prison so he could make his Sacrifice With Arms Wide Open.

Please tell the anecdote!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:51 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tonight" is fantastic

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan do you hate "Glass Onion"?

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link

What is "Glass Onion" (and can we eat it)?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:58 (seventeen years ago) link

They had a cartoon, didn't they?

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 7 July 2003 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link

All I remember about the cartoon is that in the opening credits they used hoverboards to escape fans and one episode was titled "Danny Gets Dissed" and it was the first time I ever heard the word dissed.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 7 July 2003 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

nine months pass...
I was totally like in love with the NKOTB then all of a sudden they were gone. I guess the pressure to keep up with the times or the fact that people like new things. To feel they are still "with it" really hurt the grop. Although the lead singer Joey has finnaly moved on and became solo like many other members of boy bands do. Like Justin Timberlake and Nick Lachey for example. I really miss the NKONB.

Tabitha Garland, Sunday, 2 May 2004 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link

So, Dan, when did your wife insult NKOTB?

My sister loved this band when I was 5.

Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 2 May 2004 06:09 (sixteen years ago) link

OH-OH, OH-OH-OH, OH-OH, OH-OH, OH-OH, OH-OH-OH, THE RIGHT STUFF!

They reigned supreme over the girls in my third grade class.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 06:20 (sixteen years ago) link

First month I arrived at college, me and a bunch of girls in my dorm wrote a fake letter to their fan club, that started out innocently and got more obscene as the letter progressed. We wrote it in magic marker, signed it with names like "Bambi" and "Candy", and sent it off.

A few months later, we got a reply: a routine b*w glossy of the Fab 5 smiling, signed "Thanks (hee hee) for your support!! Love, NKOTB."

Joe (Joe), Sunday, 2 May 2004 11:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I am like THIS close to buying the Jordan Knight NKOTB-revisited double CD.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

you need help

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Alex OTM

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

The New Kids were horrible musically, but necessary--they provided so much ammo for comedians and anybody else who wanted to make fun of something.

We got a copy of their first ever album in at work, when they were all really really young, and I died laughing.

uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

and the redeemable feature of the "Hangin' Tough" video is that Donnie is wearing a shirt that says HOMEBOY on it. Thank you.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link

early 90's culture was so hilarious. The haircuts were especially funny. Kid 'n Play man.

HOUSE PARTY RULZ.

uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Bright neon clothes, slap bracelets, Vanilla Ice...WHERE'S THE VH1 SPECIAL FOR MY GENERATION?

(Yeah, I know we'll get one eventually, but I WANT IT NOW!!!!)

latebloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 2 May 2004 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

slap bracelets. I think I still have one in the house.

I also had these:

"Hammer"-esque pants
Kriss Kross styled shorts that were actually manufactured with the pockets in the front
a bowl cut
PCH tee shirts

oh man.

uh, Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
i have to say that i'm a loyal fan of NKOTB now and always.they were the best ever.i need some free music downloads people.can you help me? it's torture trying to find any of their songs in full version.i would be forever grateful!

tiffani croslow, Monday, 28 March 2005 01:30 (fifteen years ago) link

IS DAN PERRY EVER GOING TO TELL THE STORY OF HIS WIFE DISSING THE NEW KIDS?

Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I loved NKOTB and Bros in Grade Six, and into Year Seven...then I discovered Guns N Roses. Thank you, Axl. 'Hangin Tough' was the only decent song. 'Tonight' sucks ass.

VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 March 2005 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Goddamn you, Dan, tell the fucking story!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 00:51 (thirteen years ago) link

New Kids trivia:

Q: Which New Kid's voice changed in the middle of a concert?!?!


A: Joey!!

At least, that's what my sister always told me, when she was a superfan and I was the little brother.

Zachary Scott (Zach S), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:09 (thirteen years ago) link

The only NKOTB track that wasn't a total dud was "Tonight", which is actually a great "Sgt. Pepper" era Beatles pastiche.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I remember the issue of Mad magazine that skewered New Kids in a bunch of articles. Mainly some line about how selling 10 million records is less a sign of their popularity, and more a sign of 10 million idiots with $15 less in their pockets.

Also, there was a fold-in which asked What Group Is More Popular Than The Beatles? and it folded into a spotlight on an empty stage and read "No One."

FACE!

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:57 (thirteen years ago) link

I was just listening to "Didn't I Blow Your Mind (This Time)" and the only thing that blew my mind is how crappy the production is! The intro sounds like fucking Nintendo music, or a MIDI or some shit.

It's a good song, though. It's been a real karaoke classic for me more than once!

nijoli (nijoli), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:10 (thirteen years ago) link

OMG, my sister would be so totally embarassed.

That was me!

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 01:11 (thirteen years ago) link

donnie wahlberg is a really good actor.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:10 (thirteen years ago) link

gear "prefers kylie"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/images.jpg

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:21 (thirteen years ago) link

are we playing top trumps?

http://pw1.netcom.com/~druxy/Images/image041.gif

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.waytorussia.net/WhatIsRussia/Literature/Pics/Bulgakov.jpg

gear (gear), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:27 (thirteen years ago) link

Bulgakov never supported the regime, and mocked it in many of his works. Therefore, most of them were consigned to his desk drawer for several decades. In 1930 he wrote a letter to Stalin requesting permission to emigrate if the Soviet Union could not find use for him as a satirist and received a personal phone call from Stalin himself, denying him that. Stalin had enjoyed Bulgakov's work, The Days of the Turbins and found work for him at a small Moscow theatre, and then the Moscow Art Theatre. In his autobiography and in many biographies, it is stated that Bulgakov wrote the letter out of desperation and mental anguish, never actually intending to post it. The refusal of the authorities to let him work in the theatre and his desire to see his family living abroad, whom he had not seen for many years, led him to seek drastic measures. Despite his new work, the projects he worked on at the theatre were unsuccessful and he was stressed and unhappy. He also worked briefly at the Bolshoi Theatre as a librettist, but left after his works were not produced.

Bulgakov died from an inherited kidney disorder in 1940 and was buried in the Novodevichy Cemetery in Moscow.

gear (gear), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:30 (thirteen years ago) link

wait...

you think this means he tops freddie prinze jr?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/primrosehill/images.jpg

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link

DAN'S WIFE OR NKOTB TO THREAD

Roque Strew (RoqueStrew), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

4 real

wordy rappinghood (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

i used to loathe this group but i heard "please don't go girl" again recently and thought it was sweet. in the video you can see that little joey is putting over his vocal 100% earnestly like he's really got it bad for the chick it's about, and the older new kids are all "haha can you believe we get paid to sing this garbage, when does shooting wrap so we can go back to the hotel and 'meet our fans'?"

the car, the hole, and the peekskill meteorite (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 06:34 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

IS DAN PERRY EVER GOING TO TELL THE STORY OF HIS WIFE DISSING THE NEW KIDS?
-- Allyzay Subservient 50s-Type (allyzay), Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:32 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link

roxymuzak, Saturday, 19 January 2008 22:38 (twelve years ago) link

There should be a campaign to keep this thread active until DAN PERRY tells us THE STORY.

Finefinemusic, Sunday, 20 January 2008 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

the world trembles with anticipation

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 28 January 2008 22:50 (twelve years ago) link

Goddamn you, Dan, tell the fucking story!

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:51 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Display Name, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Goddamn you, Dan, tell the fucking story!

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:51 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

― Display Name, Monday, January 28, 2008 7:13 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

O'Shea the Cubeman (San Te), Sunday, 2 January 2011 14:42 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

^

kkvgz, Monday, 31 January 2011 16:04 (nine years ago) link

^^ not sure why this is front-page CNN news?

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 18:23 (nine years ago) link

Because Americans must know what goes on in your bedroom even though they will never have a chance with you in real life.

the cutest one is actually the gay one!

I'm relieved.

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:04 (nine years ago) link

Remember this two years ago?

http://snarkfood.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jonathan-knight-nkotb-gay.jpg

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:06 (nine years ago) link

he's the Funny Kid!

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Tiffany apologizes for outing Jonathan Knight

Eighties singing sensation Tiffany is apologizing to former flame Jonathan Knight after seemingly outing him during a recent TV appearance.

While promoting her upcoming SyFy movie "Mega Python vs. Gatoroid" on Bravo's "Watch What Happens Live" last Friday, Tiffany, 39, admitted that she and Knight dated back in their heyday.

"He's fabulous. But he became gay later," she said before jokingly adding that she wasn't sure if she had a hand in "switching" his sexuality.

“I had issues with that! I was thinking maybe I did," she said. "But no, now looking back when we were dating, he was so much fun — we used to do facials together, he was so easy to talk to.”

Though Tiffany seemed casual about her whole "Watch What Happens Live" conversation, she changed her tune the next day when Knight, who has never publicly acknowledged his sexuality, tweeted about the incident.

"I'm so devastated," he wrote. "How can I not remember getting facials???????"

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:07 (nine years ago) link

Because Americans must know what goes on in your bedroom

only if you are not straight though! straight ppl are boring to americans

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:17 (nine years ago) link

see: every celebrity sex tape ever

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:19 (nine years ago) link

(all hetero btw)

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:19 (nine years ago) link

well pr0n aside i guess

the new mordant & zingy ilxor persona (ilxor), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:22 (nine years ago) link

i bet you Dan reads this thread every time it's revived and intentionally withholds the story just cuz it makes him laugh

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:50 (nine years ago) link

While promoting her upcoming SyFy movie "Mega Python vs. Gatoroid"

I watched 10 minutes of this over the weekend, horrible even by SyFy original movie standards. Had no idea until just now that it was Tiffany and Debbie Gibson in the scratching cat fight. Gibson looks AWFUL now, like a thinner, more coked out version of Katie Morgan.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:55 (nine years ago) link

local theatre here did an original musical based on her music called "Electric Youth" a few years back. she attended opening night.

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 19:56 (nine years ago) link

Lol @ this thread

Indolence Mission (DJP), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:29 (nine years ago) link

lol @ you!

Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 January 2011 20:31 (nine years ago) link

I watched 10 minutes of this over the weekend, horrible even by SyFy original movie standards

on the plus side, Mickey Dolenz got eaten by a giant snake

agree that Debbie Gibson looked like some sort of decrepit horse-mummy

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:02 (nine years ago) link

Haha, yeah, I did forget to mention Mickey Dolenz getting eaten. Tbh though, I almost missed him getting eaten just because I was loling so hard at him playing himself in the movie.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:14 (nine years ago) link

The story isn't actually that exciting!

During my wife's freshman year, she dated a dude who went to HS with NKOTB and tried to flex his VIP cred by taking her out to a nightclub where they were hanging out and introducing her to them. Unfortunately this was pre-The Right Stuff and she had no idea who they were, so when dude was all "they're SINGERS" she said "so? I am too" and proceed to talk about placing third at the Mid-South Fair and being courted by Juilliard.

(This is the same woman who dumped Anfernee Hardaway in high school; lady is difficult to impress.)

Indolence Mission (DJP), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:20 (nine years ago) link

oh man I have major props for your wife then. Penny was asshole non grata in O-Town for many things, basketball and non-basketball related.

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:22 (nine years ago) link

she said "so? I am too"

lol i can so hear her saying this

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:23 (nine years ago) link

rumor has it penny hardaway took the breakup bad and promised he'd be loving her all his life, til his dying day was through

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:25 (nine years ago) link

wait a sec if they were hanging out in a nightclub pre-hangin tough they were all underage

da croupier, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:30 (nine years ago) link

It was an all-ages night

Indolence Mission (DJP), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:31 (nine years ago) link

woops, missed she was a freshman xpost!

da croupier, Monday, 31 January 2011 21:32 (nine years ago) link

i presume they were all jettisoned from the club when donnie set the carpet on fire

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:33 (nine years ago) link

(This is the same woman who dumped Anfernee Hardaway in high school; lady is difficult to impress.)

#humblebrag

Kidding, kidding. Thats a great story.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:35 (nine years ago) link

It is a total, unabashed #humblebrag and I would be offended if ppl didn't notice it!

Indolence Mission (DJP), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:38 (nine years ago) link

most famous person I ever met locally in public was Anthony Bowie of the Orlando Magic in 1997 and he made fun of me.

pf smangs (San Te), Monday, 31 January 2011 21:44 (nine years ago) link

seven years pass...

Jonathan has some thoughts about "You Got It (The Right Stuff)."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 April 2018 01:26 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

The things you do
Is forever

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link


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