Who has gone the longest without jumping the shark?

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Who’s gone the longest without jumping the shark?

At nearly 30 years and counting, I’d say the Mekons, although Pussy, King of the Pirates was damn close.

You could make a perverse case for Cher clocking in with 40 big ones. When you base your act on tackiness (and I say this with love), shark jumping is a moot point. But she did shill in those hair product infomercials, which was lame even for her.

Honorable mention to ABBA. The last records ran out of gas, but I can’t come up with anything too dreadful before they called it quits.

mottdeterre (mottdeterre), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I nominate:

Judas Priest
Brian Eno
Diamanda Galas

thee music mole, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 08:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Thing is, this is synonimous with a sudden and irretreivable drop in quality.

It's a tuff call. e.g. Oasis. Either you loved them or you did not.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Youth (he says defiantly)

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:17 (twenty-one years ago)

sun ra!

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought "Jumping the shark" was one of his albums...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

you're thinking of frank zappa

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Honorable mention to ABBA. The last records ran out of gas, but I can’t come up with anything too dreadful before they called it quits.
I must admit to not really understanding what you are talking about, but if you throw in both sides of the last two singles (available on the cd) The Visitors is a fucking amazing album

lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

wire.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

peter maxwell davies

Bumfluff, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for the Mekons.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Fall

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the pet shop boys

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for Eno, I guess. He did drink his own piss once though; does that count?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

eno hasn't really done anything interesting for about 20 years.

abba smartly did all their shark jumping at the start of their career rather than at the end (i.e. anything with bjorn and/or benny on lead vocals).

derek bailey (but then i would say that)
leonard cohen (11 studio albums in 37 years and not a duff one among them)

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Judas Priest

I'm listening to the last track of the new album right now, a 13 and a half minute song called Loch Ness. I'd have to say this would stretch anyone's respect

DJ Mencap0))), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

He may not have done anything that great in 20 years, but has he done anything BAD?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits. 35 years...and counting.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits is a good call.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

eno's musical output over the last 20 years or so, negligible as it has been in quantity, is also pretty bloody boring.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr. Dre.

Eppy (Eppy), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Motorhead

chad (chad), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

eno's musical output over the last 20 years or so, negligible as it has been in quantity, is also pretty bloody boring

Isn't that deliberate though, by and large?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm going to stick my neck out with this one here and throw out Stephen Malkmus. i know the quality amongst the later Pavement albums is debatable by many ILMers, but i honestly don't think he's come anywhere close to jumping the shark. granted, its only been roughly 15 years or so - but 7 albums and a boatload of quality singles and b-sides is pretty significant these days.

also, a big second on Sonic Youth.

jonviachicago, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fall jumped the shark and then back a few times though.

And Judas Preist? You mean someone is going to defend Ram It Down era stuff? Mentalists!

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Bellle & Sebastian arre having a good run (though they had a meta-jump around the time of 'Johnathan David'),

laticsmon (laticsmon), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Although it seems Phish is rather hated around here, I'd say they're appropriate for this thread. For jam band fans, Phish had a very long run of staying respectable. Towards the end there was an obvious drop in quality, but I wouldn't call it "jumping the shark."

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Re Judas Priest's Ram It Down, if jumping the shark meant having a bad patch of releases, then David Bowie jumped the shark several years before 'Space Oddity', when he released 'When I'm Five' and several other fine singles.

Mencap, you say a 13 minute track called 'Loch Ness'would stretch anyone's respect? Listen to yourself, man! It's a 13 minute track - called Loch Ness! What more could you possibly want? Some people are never satisfied.

thee music mole, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Bob Dylan - or if he did jump it, he jumped back

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have said leonard cohen.

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"times have changed" or whatever? he jumped the shark so hard that something something something.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a good song. Love and Theft was pretty much top-form.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Judas Priest jumped when Rob left. Even if he is back, it's not the same.

David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe I should listen to it.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If you like Dylan, I'd recommend it. It's probably one of my 10 favorite Dylan albums, which is saying a lot.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The way this is going, the answer will end up being "Franz Ferdinand"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil Young? Unless you want to say he jumped the shark and then took it back or something.

miccio (miccio), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

the song, I meant, but, OK, thanks.

RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Linda Ronstadt.

P.S. What's the general feeling on when McCartney jumped the shark? I'd say "Spies Like Us" but I imagine others will point earlier.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, the real problem is that the concept of jumping the shark has jumped the shark. Now where's that Alex with his Killing Joke nomination?

thee music mole, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

that the concept of jumping the shark has jumped the shark
I agree. May I suggest that from now on we use the alternative phrase "punched the clock"?

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Louis Armstrong ought to get a mention here: he was gigging steadily by 1920 and didn't jump the shark until about 1970 (with the treacly "What a Wonderful World").

Leonard Cohen may have kept it real, but his output has been the barest trickle, hasn't it?

McCartney jumped it with "Band on the Run" if not earlier (though I have a soft spot in my heart for "Take it Away").

I like Sonic Youth as an answer. And Tom Waits.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Neil Young?

Having heard most of the Geffen releases I can say he ran aground 20 years ago. At some point he stopped drinking in time for Eldorado.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ken L: you are a big meanyhead. Mean!

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonic Youth from EJT&NS through NYC Ghosts and Flowers is crud with the occasional single.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits

He's kind of a second-tier artist who's managed to remain in the second-tier though, isn't he? I think it's easier to do that than for someone in the top-tier to remain in or near the top-tier.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

He's kind of a second-tier artist who's managed to remain in the second-tier though, isn't he? I think it's easier to do that than for someone in the top-tier to remain in or near the top-tier.

So I say again: Louis Armstrong.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jad Fair

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(who's still alive anyway... I would say Jandek, but then people will say "b-b-b-but he actually made a public appearance, fucking sell out")

donut christ (donut), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

You could be right, there's a big gap in my knowledge of Armstrong -from about 1935 to 1970, in fact. (FWIW, I like his "Wonderful World".)

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o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

scott walker -- who, like dylan, may have jumped the thing for a brief period (early '70s) and then jumped back. his alarming lack of prolificness takes away from the accomplishment somewhat, though.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking maybe Merle Haggard, though he may well have some really shitty mid '80s to mid '90s albums I never heard. Even so, that's a pretty respectable track record.

(Ornette Coleman is a good answer too, though, probably. I was going to mention him, and then I noticed somebody else did.)

chuck, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

what about the George Jones song about the Chinese? "Me like a Bow-wow, make a good chow-chow"? borderline Ray Stevens territory.

Rolling Stones working with what, the Dust Brothers? def. shark-jump. but Satanic Majesty's Hearts Band is bounds like a spring-heeled jack.

didn't Nurse with Wound just release three different CDs with 3 different folks? on the woeful 'art label' Beta-Lack-'um? Jim O'Rourke remixing you is an automatic shark-jump.

and Linda Rondstadt going salsa was you know...

Trux comic book?

tender milch, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Ornette playing trumpet and violin?

tho Jon may be a tad biased, Keith Rowe is as good an answer as any.

tender milch, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

And how long did Rufus Thomas go?

Whoever nominated Louis Armstrong probably wins, though.

chuck, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Duke Ellington?

tender milch, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

George Clinton doesn't really put out albums anymore, so I nominate him. (Dope Dogs circa '90? was a great great record)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

'tho Jon may be a tad biased, Keith Rowe is as good an answer as any. "

I'm biased, but it's not like Keith's my uncle. I sought him out in 1999 (blind e-mail, never met him before) to work with him (and, as it turned out, to build a large part of my then fledgling label around) simply because I was a huge fan of his music and wasn't sure why he never worked outside of AMM. it's turned into a very mutually beneficial relationship, in every way but financially.

one of the proudest accomplishments of my life thus far is to give KR the opportunity he never really had previously, to fully express himself in his own projects. I'm pretty much constantly amazed at his energy and flow of ideas, on a macro and micro level. I work with dozens of musicians from around the world, but for me, Keith is still leading the way in this field, 40 years after he started.

Louis Armstrong I'd give from 1923 (first appearance as a sideman with King Oliver) to 1961 (the record with Duke Ellington), 38 years. obviously Keith hasn't had the same immediate impact on the world (although he did teach Syd Barrett guitar, and there are reports that the Beatles were influenced by AMM's shows in the late sixties), but I'll stack his creative legacy up against anyone.

jon abbey, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Miles had a pretty good run.

The Ramones never really got bad or embarrassing.

Tammy Wynette?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Michael Jackson. Of course, he didn't so much jump the shark as have its alien love child.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

pffft Michael Jackson

please

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Rufus Thomas is a good one, had not thought of him. "Bear Cat" was '53, early Sun, and he still performed thru the '90s--I saw him standing around on Beale Street once in the '90s, and he still had the...charisma I guess. Just standing around, kind of glowering in a funny way with his cape and his boots. I wanted to ask, "Hey, man, what's Carla up to, is she seein' anybody," but I wasn't that lit. But I'd say his recorded output isn't too essential after the Stax stuff he did in the early '70s--he's good at crowd control in the "Wattstax" movie, though.

It's the same with Ellington as with George Jones and his "chinee" song...Ellington did some crap in the '50s and '60s for sure. But when did Ellington start, '27 or so? From then until the Blanton-Webster '40s stuff it's all pretty great, and he never really stopped composing and touring until virtually the day he died. 40+ years and most of his music is good. Miles is also a good choice from the late '40s until the '80s, altho the stuff he did after he came back for the final time isn't too great, except for maybe "Aura."

"...and for what it's worth, jones one woman man isn't a bad album worth owning anyway. it includes another worthy novelty, "pretty little lady from beaumont texas" (whose best quality, according to the lyric, is the "oil well in her yard"), and it began a damn good patch of albums that continued with along came jones and walls can fall. "

yeah, it's a good album, I have it and listen to it frequently. What can I say, I love George Jones and he's my choice. Any singer who rides a lawnmower to go to the package store has to be the one.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think you have to stop Miles in 1975, after Agharta/Pangaea, although that's still a helluva run, and arguably his best stuff was at the end, the electric phase.

Ellington started recording in 1924, and while, as Eddie says, the 50's and 60's were a bit spotty for him, the amazing New Orleans Suite is from 1970, 46 years between top-notch releases is probably the longest run I'm aware of.

jon abbey, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

>Rufus Thomas is a good one, had not thought of him. "Bear Cat" was '53, early Sun, and he still performed thru the '90s--<

And thing is, he was already 36 or so in 1953, right? Didn't his stage career go way back to black vaudeville, or later minstel shows or something? He was like the Satchel Paige of music (unless Pigmeat Markham was, which would make Rufus the Minnie Minoso I guess.)

chuck, Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Chuck, he was working in a factory in Memphis and disc-jockeying when he did "Bear Cat," and he'd been in, I believe, the Rabbit Foot Minstrels, on the road. He's really one of my favorite figures ever, recorded for Sun and for Stax and anticipated disco with those later "Do the Funky {fill in the animal}" songs. When I think about a career like that, I feel so unnecessary as Rufus used to say...

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 23:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cure jumped the shark on Wild Mood Swings no doubt, if they hadn't done so on "Friday I'm in Love" or whichever point you prefer before that. But a decent run of it for a rock band. The genre-switching probably helps out a lot here.

cws (cws), Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost, sorry.

cws (cws), Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits jumped the shark just last year, people.

What? With Real Gone? Or Coffee and Cigarettes? Hardly. If doing a Jim Jarmusch is jumping the shark, then he jumped in '86 when did Down by Law. I still think he's a strong contender.

I don't know anything about Louis Armstrong, but Al Green's gospel work is the epitome of jumping the shark (cf. Camden Joy's "The Greatest Record Album Singer Ever).

When did Joe Strummer and John Lydol jump the shark?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

tom waits never had a shark to jump, people.

henrod eldrix, Thursday, 20 January 2005 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

John Lydon jumped the shark after 1989's "Happy"

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Strummer? Cut The Crap.

Some might say Sandinista!.

Either way, it wasn't long.

donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"I don't know anything about Louis Armstrong..."

He was a pretty fair singer and trumpet player, from 1923-1971. Some say he influenced a few other musicians in his day.
And he never jumped the shark, even when he was performing bad material. The winner.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Emmylou Harris, says I. Mekons and Tom Waits also OTM. Also Neil Finn. Rush maybe?

I love Eno, but he jumped the shark back around "Neroli," when he started releasing his Koan-generated installation music.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 20 January 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, how about Guided by Voices?

Releasing a slew of fair to middling albums isn't jumping the shark, right?

and what about XTC?

I expect that you guys no more about both, but I couldn't think of anything too Fonzie.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

P.S. - The Fonz jumping over a shark on his motorcycle in a Happy Days episode is the origin of the term "jump the shark."

poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Artistically, I think XTC fell off after Psonic Psunspot from '87. (Commercially, they fell off after Oranges and Lemons.) I've liked the albums XTC have released after Oranges and Lemons, but they've been released way too rarely for me to consider them a band that has undone the shark jumping, so to speak. Although, I could be crueler and say they jumped the shark when Andy fainted at a live show in San Diego in 1982. (XTC would cancel the following show in L.A. and never play live in front of a venue audience again.)

donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I have this Japanese bootleg of their Look Look video comp with TV live footage tagged onto the end. I was shocked how comfortable and enthusiastic Andy Partridge appeared! I assumed he'd be visibly soiling himself or something.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

the "This is Pop?" video might still be one of the greatest videos ever made.

donut christ (donut), Thursday, 20 January 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Where do the Isley Brothers fit into this? No one in rock/pop/R&B can touch them for longevity, not even the Stones. Have they been good the entire time? Well, I like the whole Mr. Bigg stuff with R. Kelly- made for some classic videos and hilarious mini-operas. What else did they do in the '90s before Kelly's "Down Low" video? Maybe they jumped the shark at some point then, but "between the Sheets" is pretty hot and the '70s stuff is unbelievable as is the stuff before that. But yeah man, "Shout" was 1959. They could be contenders.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF! how about the ex? there's a band that has only gotten progressively better from album to album for over 25 years!

naturemorte, Thursday, 20 January 2005 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

did anyone else think this thread was gonna be about mastubation?

anyway, how about yo la tengo? going on twenty years without a dud (except for maybe that jad fair collaboration.)

arjun (arjun), Thursday, 20 January 2005 04:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Only folks I can think of thats still living and hasn't been mentioned:
The Clean
Giant Sand
Kendra Smith

brg30 (brg30), Thursday, 20 January 2005 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Cecil Taylor ?
Andrew Hill ?

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 20 January 2005 06:10 (twenty-one years ago)

is fonzie the wrong answer ?
seriously danny elfman has gone from oingo boingo to soundtrack work.
brian setzer from stray cats has done big band stuff and tours.

runaway boy, Thursday, 20 January 2005 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom Waits is looking like the winner to me, but Nick Cave deserves an honourable mention

this_here_giraffe, Thursday, 20 January 2005 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Richard Thompson?

John Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 20 January 2005 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Dennis Wilson?

OK, he only ever got around to making one solo album but that album is pretty well faultless. Also check out his two songs on Carl and the Passions: So Tough - "Make It Good" and "Cuddle Up," which in my more morbidly melancholic moods I think are the two greatest and also the two most painful love songs ever written.

Despite their history, the Beach Boys musically avoided jumping the shark for as long as the Stones - every album up to and including Holland is generally superb and even the later questionable ones (Love You, MIU, 15 Big Ones etc.) have their isolated moments.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 20 January 2005 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Stereolab quietly reinstated(I like Margerine Eclipse now)

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure I must have just missed their being mentioned during my quick skim of previous posts, but anyway...Pet Shop Boys.

D. Bachyrycz, Friday, 20 January 2006 04:46 (twenty years ago)

I submit that Richard Thompson jumped the shark after Rumour and Sigh, and possibly after the last Joe Boyd-produced album. But I haven't heard any of the last ten years' worth of his work, so, uh, never mind.

truck-patch pixel farmer (my crop froze in the field) (Rock Hardy), Friday, 20 January 2006 04:53 (twenty years ago)

Mayo Thompson/Red Krayola

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 20 January 2006 05:13 (twenty years ago)

led zeppelin (they may well have done some other stuff with a shark, but they never jumped one)

grateful dead (certainly didn't jump it during jerry g's lifetime)

steely dan (i'm stunned by their omission from the thread so far. this IS ilm, right?)

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 20 January 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

De La Soul, easy.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Billy Childish - 29 years?

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Tom Petty.

Even though he doesn't make the best albums, he's a great singles artist. His talent for writing catchy songs hasn't diminished enough to say he's jumped the shark. Thankfully he abandoned the Jeff Lynne production style, which jumped the shark in 1990 or so.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Scott Walker, too.

kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:56 (twenty years ago)

metallica!

just kidding.

latebloomer: virtuous, pure and masculine like only an American male can be (lat, Friday, 20 January 2006 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Man, a lot of you are conflating Joe DiMaggio-ism with lack of shark jumping. It isn't about the artist who went consistently longest without a dud, it's about the artist that went longest without introducing a gimmick to regain relevancy. Neil Young cashes out at Trans. Liz Phair loses when she did that recent album with The Matrix. You could argue that this is a rehash of the ol' "Who went the longest without selling out, man" argument, but jumping the shark implies not only a sell-out but a failed sell-out attempt, severly narrowing the field of contention.

js (honestengine), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:34 (twenty years ago)

bo diddley

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Someone way up there asked about Nico jumping the shark. I'd submit that she would have rather skinned the shark and used its oil to cook smack, but most of the shark-jumping was done for Nico, as she was too doped-up and/or dead to protest much. Hooking up with that cheesy '80s-era rock band with James Young etc. was pretty bad form, but I'm pretty sure she didn't ask for every goddamn C90-recorded live appearance to come out on some crappy Dojo/Cleopatra release since then.

Guided By Voices likewise seem to exist solely to jump sharks (or rather, execute a drunken high one-leg kick over the shark).

Ornette jumped the shark doing "Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman," but then came Naked Lunch and some decent Prime Time work.

Residents jumped when all the original members left and it became just the singer and whatever clunky 1980s MIDI crap he could string together. I'd pitch this sometime around the Mole trilogy.

Myke Weiskopf (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 20 January 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

bo diddley

Bo Diddley was completely awful when I saw him in concert a few years ago. No square red guitar, plus he spent most of the concert trying to do hip hop and it just didn't work.

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 21 January 2006 03:39 (twenty years ago)


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