― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 15 January 2005 21:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― hector savage, Saturday, 15 January 2005 21:28 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
of these, though, the debut BoDeans album is the best. throw in gun club and i'd still think the same.
― john'n'chicago, Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:04 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 01:43 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 16 January 2005 01:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
the del lords WERE better than the del fuegos (though that might not be saying much). Their records suffered from Springsteen-itis but their early live shows around NYC were good as faux roots-rock gets.
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 16 January 2005 01:54 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― don, Sunday, 16 January 2005 02:17 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 16 January 2005 02:25 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― don, Sunday, 16 January 2005 02:32 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
"what about the Del Lords? are they better than the Del Fuegos?"
i was gonna put del lords in there too, and maybe the del vikings and del shannon and del tha funkee homosapien, but i didn't want to go overboard.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 02:36 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
awww. maybe i'm just a big meanie! why can't i let go? i'm still smarting about that one star hayzie fantayzee review in 1981!
didn't gwen stefani start singing for no doubt when she was 15? how much younger was maria when she started singing pro?
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 02:41 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― Morley Timmons (Donna Brown), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:03 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Marshall Stax (Marshall Stax), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:07 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
I like the first LJ rekkid. Maybe because I had a crush on Maria McKee after seeing the "Ways to be Wicked" video, which prompted me to buy the album even though I'd never bought anything twangy before, so LJ represented a broadening of my palette (come to think of it, I also hadn't bought much by girl singers to that point, so score another for Maria). But there's about 5 songs on there I still like a lot.
I liked the Del-Lords' first album too at the time, but I have to admit that when I heard a track from it sometime last year the corniness was a little hard to take. Still like "I Play the Drums," though.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:37 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:45 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:48 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
yes, cuz they are better than all the rest combined. probably.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:55 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 03:58 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― don, Sunday, 16 January 2005 04:42 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Gypsy, you forgot to mention you liked hearing her praise the kind of guy who's "not afraid to stick it in"! Or was that me that liked that?
Yeah, that didn't escape my notice. Weird thing is that Tom Petty wrote that song. I guess he likes guys who aren't afraid to stick it in too...
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 16 January 2005 04:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Gwen's brother Eric started the band No Doubt with his friend John Spence in 1987, and asked the always effervescent Gwen to join on as co-vocalist with Spence. Tony Kanal joined the group a little later, and the trio began to gain popularity by playing at local parties.
But the party was over when Spence committed suicide in 1987, which left Gwen to move up the ranks to lead vocalist. The show must go on, and it did, as No Doubt continued to perform in local gigs. In the meantime, Gwen had graduated high school, and followed up her studies at Cal State Fullerton College.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 16 January 2005 04:59 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― evan chronister (evan chronister), Sunday, 16 January 2005 09:31 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:57 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
The Del Lords were pretty good, too - sort of right in between Springsteen and Robert Gordon (somewhat underrated himself).
Cruzados? Eh. But the first Plugz album, Electrify Me, is fucking mind-roasting. I still listen to it at least once a month - I gave a copy to Henry Rollins once, hoping he'd reissue it on CD through Infinite Zero.
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 16 January 2005 20:21 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Well, the Del Fuegos were from Boston (if you'll allow me a little regional commentary of my own). There's a reason Jason and the Scorchers "got" country...
― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:30 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― eighties enough, Monday, 17 January 2005 00:39 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
On record, not live. Saw both, had most of their records. Del Fuegos were a good to great live band - much harder, swinging and aggressive than their recorded material let on. Del Lords were always solidly mediocre but had a couple songs you could actually remember like the previously mentioned, "I Play the Drums" and "Judas Kiss."
― George Smith, Monday, 17 January 2005 00:44 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
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― don, Monday, 17 January 2005 04:46 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Of REM, Dan Stuart said that they jammed with 'em on occasion, "but you're looking at a band that got more produced and more pop on every album and a guy who was deliberately very non-concrete about his sexuality".
He reserved most of his bile for Howe Gelb of Giant Sand, though. "Oh god, I hate that guy. He's just some rich Jew boy from Scranton Pensylvania who goes through his phonebook and gets people to make his records for him!"
Oh, and the Del Lords also ruled.
― laticsmon (laticsmon), Monday, 17 January 2005 11:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― laticsmon (laticsmon), Monday, 17 January 2005 11:16 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
**He's just some rich Jew boy from Scranton Pensylvania**
Now I REALLY don't like this asshole. "Hey, man, I'm a authentic roots rocker, not some fag or jew poser." DESTROY!
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 17 January 2005 12:33 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Of course, between comments like these and firing three-fifths of his band to make ends meet, we get to the nub of why Dan Stuart was effectively ostracised frm the US music industry.
I still say they're worth investigating.
― laticsmon (laticsmon), Monday, 17 January 2005 12:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
Keeping it real?? Suppose Stipe HAD come out of the closet in 1986, would Dan Stuart have been cheering him on? Hah. And his knee-jerk antisemitism re:Howe Gelb is pathetic. Stuart could've stuck to evaluating their music and stayed out of trouble. So fuck him.
But hey, even bigoted jerks can make good music. We're all sinners in the eyes of the lord, etc.
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:00 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
― laticsmon (laticsmon), Monday, 17 January 2005 13:11 (fourteen years ago) Permalink
saw susan cowsill at a local library recently. she was complaining of a cold but what a voice. she mentioned that continental drifters set from a couple posts up. i learned that vicki peterson is married to one of her brothers. also that she recorded a couple of singles for warner bros in the 70s, one of which had the first-issued version of "mohammad's radio" as the b-side. jackson browne gave her the zevon demo and suggested she cover it. susan cowsill fun facts.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 00:18 (three years ago) Permalink
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 00:34 (three years ago) Permalink
Wow, thanks guys! Never heard of that. She has a lot of interesting comments in the compilation notes. Think she was already performing with Vicki Peterson as the Psycho Sisters when they met the Continental Drifters, and they finally put out an album under that name last year or so. She also did a solo album a few years ago, which was okay, but so far I like her better as a team player, like here (caffeinated review from 2013 follows)The Hobart Brothers & Lil Sis Hobart--At Least We Have Each Other Jon Dee Graham, Freedy Johnston, and Susan Cowsill pool their songs about buildings, food, dirt, jobs, women, men, spare tires of several kinds, jobs, pavement, waking up, jobs, dreams (maybe), jobs, spare sounds, fuller ones too (I prefer the former here, for the coffee break vibe, but both work), and jobs. Not really so many (or so remarkable) jobs, but more than we usually hear songs about; songs that beat plain ol' complaints, anyway. Susan Cowsill was the youngest member of her brothers'/mother's/manager dad's group The Cowsills, real-life basis of the Partridge Family. She does not sound waify here: fairly tough and flexible voice, something of a potentially upsetting, born-for/to-trouble spark. Freedy Johnston's reedy, and observant enough to bend with the ornery wind; Graham's one gravelly, articulate Austin cracker. Johnston, whose stoically idiosyncratic practicality has so far led to at least one great solo album, Can You Fly (not even a rhetorical question), sometimes breaks out a bit of power pop here. It's in the soda pop pulled from a rusty icebed by a gas station, probably in Texas and/or the Great Plains, while the sun keeps the beat---they keep enough shade, enough cool to try and work out "the difference between beaten and beat," also Beat. This album is rec'd to these individual artists' fans, ditto those who enjoy the community-minded best of James McMurtry, Warren Zevon, John Doe, Dave Alvin, Eliza Gilkyson, like that y'all.
― dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:25 (three years ago) Permalink
Also, most of the Continental Drifters core moved from LA to NOLA, and eventually some (most? all?) of them encountered or were affected by Katrina in various ways; one of Susan's brothers didn't survive it.Also this from 2013 Nashville Scene ballot notes:The dB's--"She Won't Drive In The Rain Anymore": Very good contemporary country jangle-ballad, one of the highlights on a very good reunion album (aren't many of those). The true story, as told by Holsapple to http://dbs-repercussion.blogspot.com"It's about my wife evacuating New Orleans during Katrina. I was on the road with Hootie [and the Blowfish]; my wife had taken my daughter and my baby son and my daughter's best friend on a train to Birmingham to buy a vehicle up there. She knew the hurricane was coming, and she did all the things you're supposed to do. We didn't think too much about it — we certainly didn't realize it was going to be a 100-year storm. But when she got to Birmingham to get the car, it was very evident there was no turning back, so she drove literally across the storm path to get to her grandmother's in Little Rock."Peter goes on to explain the reunion theme in the lyrics. He says his wife "took a day to re-group and then started driving back and she dropped my daughter's best friend off with her mom in Memphis. And then [my wife took] Miranda, my daughter with Susan Cowsill, to where Susan and her husband were living at the time. Then she made a beeline to where Hootie was playing next, which was Baltimore. She got there 15 minutes before we went on. It had been this incredible, tortuous time, unable to get in touch with anybody. Meanwhile, I'm in this sort of suspended state of touring because I need the money, and I can't really stop. Where am I gonna go, what am I gonna do? When I saw her, it was the first time in weeks, she and my son pulled up and I was overjoyed just to get to see her. We didn't really talk very much because we didn't really know what to say; it was all just so overwhelming."
― dow, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:38 (three years ago) Permalink
Vicki is married to John Cowsill, who plays drums with Mike Love and Bruce Johnston in a "Beach Boys" group. I saw him play with Bob Cowsill, who performs regularly at a club in Los Angeles as The Cowsills. They do 60s/70s covers, with their own hits thrown in.
― nickn, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 07:16 (three years ago) Permalink
Speaking of Drivin' 'N' Cryin', as I did also upthread when they played Music City Roots' livestream with xpost Jason and The Scorchers' guitarist Warren Hodges, the latter will return to MCR tonight, touring behind his latest solo alb, Gunslinger. See here for more info on him, then see the previous MCR page for link to said livestream, or scroll to the bottom of the MCR homepage for audio-only, simulcast on Nashville's Hippie Radio. This show, also incl. Webb Wilder and his Beatnecks, among others, starts at 7 Central. Here's Warren:http://musiccityroots.com/artist/warner-hodges/
― dow, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 23:30 (three years ago) Permalink
Whew. So Warren & band just played AC/DC's "Got Mine The Hard Way," finishing with the Scorchers' shudderbilly version of "Country Road, Take Me Home," which sounds right at home thisaway. Whole show should be in MCR archive pretty soon.
― dow, Thursday, 11 June 2015 01:47 (three years ago) Permalink
Sweet! More energy, more variety of sources, it sez here---out 9/18http://nodepression.com/article/dave-and-phil-alvin-make-lost-time
― dow, Sunday, 28 June 2015 00:52 (three years ago) Permalink
Jason and the Scorchers are playing a Nashville benefit tonight, with Warren Hodges' other employer, Dan Baird (orig. of Georgia Satellites), xpost Webb Wilder & the Beatnecks, and other weirdos---can livestream or audio-only from here, 7-9 Central:http://musiccityroots.com/blog/for-the-benefit-of-mr-womack/The show will be archived at this site, probably (most of 'em are)...
― dow, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 22:04 (three years ago) Permalink
As expected, Phil Alvin & Dave Alvin's Lost Time sports Phil's soulful stylish vocals--also his poppin' blues harp, sounds like his crisp rhythm guitar too---and Dave's dynamic leads, but seems like some of the songs, or at least the lyrics, often spotlit, are not that engaging. Do like the bit where Rosa Parks tells the Montgomery judge to have a seat on the back of the bus, "Sit down baby," and take a load off, gonna be ridin' a while, it seems, goes with Dave's current sly, warm, actually smoothed-out baritone, like he's finally found the right cough syrup. Xgau for one thinks he's also finally found his voice, but I get tired of it here and on Eleven Eleven, despite its good songs (some people, incl. xgau,think it's his best solo album, and maybe I'm in the minority).Also a bit frustrated by the way an intriguing, uptempo (what I think of as a bluesy bluegrass cadence) variant of "House of The Rising Sun" gradually looses emotional impact via Dave's lead vocal. Still, it's worth checking out (hope somebody else, like Phil, takes a shot at this approach.) Phil does sing lead on most tracks, and they sing well together' maybe the xpost previous reunion, Common Ground was more consistently involving because they were so excited finally to be getting though another album without killing each other.Spotify has these P & D albums, each one's solo sets, and a big ol' Blasters stash. Sure glad they got this 'un, well-described by xgau:Phil Alvin: Un "Sung Stories" [Slash, 1986]He loves a good lyric, and if he can't write them or order them up, he has only to ransack his record collection for oldies that are just strange enough. Mixing country blues with Cab Calloway, Peetie Wheatstraw's murderous "Gangster's Blues" with a supremely mournful country song called "Collins Cave," he goes for narrative and gets it. The arrangements range from very spare to orchestral, and never mind Tower of Power--Alvin goes to Sun Ra when he wants Ellingtonia, Dirty Dozen when he wants polyphony. The only exception to all this smart stuff is a perfectly OK "Daddy Rollin' Stone." I hope it breaks AOR, I bet it won't, and I wish he didn't have to bother. A-An Alvin expected/pressured by the Slash/Warner denim suits to "break" commercial radio---those were the days! I like the uneven 1994 follow-up, County Fair, a lot more than the 'gau does. Doesn't state his objections, just slaps an icon on it.
― dow, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:05 (three years ago) Permalink
County Fair 2000, that is (and I should say that I actually prefer Dave's earlier, more erratic vox--def the minority report, prob).
― dow, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:12 (three years ago) Permalink
No more speedy typing on tiny screens
― dow, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:15 (three years ago) Permalink
I hope it breaks AOR, I bet it won't
genuinely confused by this xgau comment on phil alvin's debut solo. who would he have been betting against? was there anyone alive in 1986 who expected AOR to play phil alvin?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 October 2015 19:36 (three years ago) Permalink
Well maybe! It wasn't that long after what seems to have been the peak of commercial efforts (as far as they were willing to go, collectively anyway): Hard Line [Slash, 1985]Non Fiction imagined a world in which the American music the Blasters love remained the common tongue of ordinary guys, guys whose connection to their cultural history helped them understand where they were--not in control, but at least conscious. The follow-up attempts to reach those ordinary guys with producers and stereo and more drums and no horns and a John Cougar Mellencamp song, and also with the kind of fancy stuff that comes naturally--accordion here, acoustic version there, Jordanaires all over the place, and the Jubilee Train Singers on a fiercely joyous remake of "Samson and Delilah," which with its ancient threat to tear this building down is good reason not to fret about philosophical retreat. As are "Dark Night," about a race murder, and "Common Man," about some president or other, their two most pointedly political tracks ever. What's softened is the bits of the writing--where Non Fiction nailed specifics (plastic seats, repentant husband wiping ashes off the bed), here Dave Alvin settles (or works) for a level of generalization suitable to pop. Guess he's decided that sometimes ordinary guys don't want things spelled out so fine. He may be right. AThe producer even replaced Bill Bateman with Stan Lynch! On some tracks. More gory details here:http://www.allmusic.com/album/hard-line-mw0000838669 But yeah, it still turned out pretty well, seemed like. Although I haven't listened in a long time; might seem dated now. Dunno how well it sold, but haven't noticed any of its tracks on 80s hit comps.
― dow, Thursday, 22 October 2015 01:34 (three years ago) Permalink
hard line was a good record! but, john mellencamp song notwithstanding, it was never in any danger of getting played on the radio. and, yeah, that "samson and delilah" is fantastic.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 22 October 2015 02:01 (three years ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Monday, 25 April 2016 16:03 (two years ago) Permalink
Dan Stuart (guitar and vocals, Green on Red): I moved to LA around 1980 after getting busted for a smash and grab of a guitar and amp from a music store in Tucson. The rest of the Serfers came later and our first gig was opening for X at a ballroom on Sunset. I was so nervous that I kept squeezing this zit on my face all week and by the time we played it was like Mount Vesuvius. I don't remember if we were still the Serfers at that time, we changed our name at the suggestion of Belinda Carlisle who was the secretary for this booking agent but really ran the office. She didn't like all the Orange County punk bands at the time and thought that people would think we actually were surf Nazis or something. I said fine, call us Green on Red which was the title of a tune I had just written. That was the first of many dubious decisions to come.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 25 April 2016 16:12 (two years ago) Permalink
Good to see that about the Paisley Underground saga, which reminds me to check out this new onslaught of testifyin' (Doe's got a new album, too)--from Amazon:Under the Big Black Sun explores the nascent Los Angeles punk rock movement and its evolution to hardcore punk as it's never been told before. Authors John Doe and Tom DeSavia have woven together an enthralling story of the legendary West Coast scene from 1977-1982 by enlisting the voices of people who were there. The book shares chapter-length tales from the authors along with personal essays from famous (and infamous) players in the scene. Additional authors include: Exene Cervenka (X), Henry Rollins (Black Flag), Mike Watt (The Minutemen), Jane Wiedlin and Charlotte Caffey (Go-Go's), Dave Alvin (The Blasters), Chris D. (The Flesh Eaters), Robert Lopez (The Zeros, El Vez), Jack Grisham (T.S.O.L.), Teresa Covarrubias (The Brat), as well as scenesters and journalists Pleasant Gehman, Kristine McKenna, and Chris Morris. Through interstitial commentary, John Doe "narrates" this journey through the land of film noir sunshine, Hollywood back alleys, and suburban sprawl, the place where he met his artistic counterparts Exene, DJ Bonebrake, and Billy Zoom and formed X, the band that became synonymous with, and in many ways defined, L.A. punk.
Focusing on punk's evolutionary years, Under the Big Black Sun shares stories of friendship and love, ambition and feuds, grandiose dreams and cultural rage, all combined with the tattered, glossy sheen of pop culture weirdness that epitomized the operations of Hollywood's underbelly. Readers will travel to the clubs that defined the scene, as well as to the street corners, empty lots, apartment complexes, and squats that served as de facto salons for the musicians, artists, and fringe players that hashed out what would become punk rock in Los Angeles.
L.A. punk was born from rock 'n' roll, from country and blues and Latin music, the true next step in the evolution of rock 'n' roll music. It was born of art, culture, political, and economic frustration. It spoke of a Los Angeles that existed when regionalism still reigned in the USA. It sounded like Los Angeles.
For the first time, the stories and photos from this now-fabled era are presented from those on the front lines. Stories that most have never heard about the art that was born under the big black sun.
― dow, Thursday, 14 July 2016 20:15 (two years ago) Permalink
Ooh, must get.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 14 July 2016 23:42 (two years ago) Permalink
It's not great
― Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 15 July 2016 00:09 (two years ago) Permalink
Some ok stories but badly edited
Long Ryders tuoring eastern US... saw em about 30 years ago, remember they covered "Public Image."
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 October 2016 16:26 (two years ago) Permalink
no fans left alive, eh?
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 6 October 2016 00:47 (two years ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, just not likely to get to see 'em on this round---but I liked most of this show, as I said upthread---dunno if it's still posted, but if so, can download it, and the same source may have more sets by now:
Long Ryders, Stache's, Columbus OH, 4-2-84:Good sound, though kinda monotonous at first, but they crank up the jangly cowpunk in the second half, starting with "Final Wild Son," about "a friend of ours who's in trouble," a guy from Memphis, who isn't worried about dead legends cos he's livin' his, and the devil won't take his soul; he'll smoke it up before he goes. They close with "The Rains Came" "(adding lyrics:"Augie Meyer is our friend" and "Haven't seen Doug Sahm since he left this town"), "Sometimes Good Guys Don't Wear White," "You're Gonna Miss Me," and "Jumping In The Night." Not a medley.http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2271 There's an '85 Stanford show on here too; I haven't listened yet.
― dow, Tuesday, May 12, 2015
― dow, Thursday, 6 October 2016 01:22 (two years ago) Permalink
lydia loveless belongs on this thread. don't believe she's been mentioned yet, unless she's grandfathered in via the most other folks on Bloodshot rule proposed by someone upthread in 2005. i'm guessing if i polled everyone around me at the troubadour last night, somewhere between 70 and 80 percent of 'em had at least one long ryders, dwight yoakam or jason & the scorchers show under their belt. i assume closer to 100 percent had either a replacements or p westerberg ticket stub in their bedroom. also, she's great. had never quite noticed before how strong her voice is. live lineup: guitar guitar guitar bass drums. one guitar sometime moving to pedal steel. telecasters preferred, duh. (ok, her's was a G&L, but same thing.) she kicking all of them offstage for three solo songs including a (very good) cover of j bieber's "sorry." them returning to the stage and almost, but not quite, persuading me to buy a trucker hat.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 28 January 2017 00:36 (one year ago) Permalink
Lots of good stuff about her here: Thread for Lydia Loveless, Country-Rock Lady I Enjoy Also some on Rolling Country 2016, and she did pretty well in recently posted Nashville Scene national poll of reviewers, though Real ranges further afield than expected.
― dow, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:23 (one year ago) Permalink
― dow, Saturday, 28 January 2017 15:27 (one year ago) Permalink
There's a Drivin n Cryin' doc on Amazon Prime called Scarred But Smarter, interesting. Hootie is a huge fan
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:54 (one year ago) Permalink
Oh cool. I'll watch that today (and then click over to Netflix for the Sharon Jones thing. I need lengthy distractions from real life.)
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 28 January 2017 16:59 (one year ago) Permalink
I hadn't heard of Drivin n Cryin' when I played Kevn Kinney's MacDougal Blues on my college radio show. Polished sounding record, but plenty of good songs.
― who even are those other cats (Eazy), Saturday, 28 January 2017 18:25 (one year ago) Permalink
Lots of good stuff about her here
bookmarked. thank you.
this on that thread, from you...
kind of like Petty and Heartbreakers with a better Petty
...reminds me that, yeah, there's a lot of petty-ness in her presentation. and some neko case in that voice. and a little bit of leatherwoods in her songwriting sometimes. it's basically classic rock a decade or two later. real took a while to hit me but i really love it now.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 28 January 2017 20:43 (one year ago) Permalink
including a (very good) cover of j bieber's "sorry."
except Petty would never stoop to such shenanigans
I know we're all poptimists now but boy oh boy I sure wish the "ironic cover song" would die already
it's the "rappin' granny" of indie rock
― Wimmels, Sunday, 29 January 2017 14:07 (one year ago) Permalink
One 80s band not mentioned that kinda fits here is The Brandos which were a pretty twangy power pop band that liked the whole bola tie thing.
― earlnash, Sunday, 29 January 2017 19:59 (one year ago) Permalink
I sure wish the "ironic cover song" would die already
what makes you think lydia's cover was ironic?
― fact checking cuz, Sunday, 29 January 2017 22:18 (one year ago) Permalink
I can only assume it was, given her influences seem to be firmly rooted in the rockist heartland alt country thing. Even if it wasn't ironic, the cover was likely met with that nervous knowing laughter from the crowd, and some cheers of recognition and "oh wow isn't that a ballsy move" and exchanged glances of "is she really...?!" and it's something I've seen a thousand times and never fails to bum me out. It's a cheap tactical move that, pre-poptimism, was viewed as such (see: the groans that greeted Fountains of Wayne's cover of "Hit Me Baby One More Time")
Don't mind me I'm old and cranky
I like all the Lydia Loveless I've heard in passing, especially the one album that has 'machine' in the title...
― Wimmels, Sunday, 29 January 2017 23:30 (one year ago) Permalink
having witnessed it three days ago, i can assure you it didn't seem ironic and there was neither nervous laughter nor cheers of recognition nor exchanged glances anywhere around me. it was a straight, sober performance of a song that, both melodically and emotionally, fit in quite well with the rest of her set. if she had covered it on her most recent album, it wouldn't have seemed weird at all. also, it's a good song. she's never been shy about doing covers. she's four years older than bieber. i assume his music is part of her environment, same as it would be part of any 26-year-old's environment, and i assume she heard it and thought to herself, "damn, that's a good song."
i'm old and cranky too.
― fact checking cuz, Sunday, 29 January 2017 23:51 (one year ago) Permalink
Fair enough. Didn't really consider how close in age they are. Sorta like how I'm finally getting over being surprised by hip garage-punk bands of twentysomethings citing Blink 182 as a legit musical influence
― Wimmels, Monday, 30 January 2017 00:13 (one year ago) Permalink
now listening, on the radio, on LA's no-longer-quite-classic-rock KLOS: dwight yoakam, on jonesy's jukebox, talking at length about the blasters, the carter family, the palomino club, the dissonant harmonies of x, etc., while jonesy plays music by dwight, x, etc., between talking segments. if you are in la at this exact minute and you are on this thread you should turn on your radio.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 23 March 2017 19:47 (one year ago) Permalink
I am and I am, but I'm at work.
― nickn, Thursday, 23 March 2017 21:09 (one year ago) Permalink
a really overproduced Bodeans song came on my ipod tonight, 'you don't get much'. which would have fit in nicely on any late 90s Mellencamp record.
can't believe the Sidewinders haven't been mentioned. Auntie Ramos' Pool Hall kills.
― campreverb, Friday, 26 January 2018 05:08 (eleven months ago) Permalink
Re popside of Lydia Loveless, she's also mentioned independent-minded Robyn as an inspiration, and LL is the onlu artist on Bloodshot (so far/prob forever) to release remixes. Still sounds not too many light years from the Bloodshot side o' town, and none of her records fall too far from the family tree of this thread.
Speaking of which, I finally got around to Chuck Prophet's 2017 Bobby Fuller Died For Your Sins. He's checking in, noting that '16 was a bad year for rock 'n' roll deathwise, right from the beginning, but him and the boys carried on; later, only actually kinda slow and blue one has them finding an offnight situation, the moneyman's iffy, the doorman's insistent, "the bartender's out in the middle of the street with his pants around his neck....but we got up played and sang and tried to make it rain." Sounds moderately satisfied, although Prophet's not saying he follows the Lord's Example in "Jesus Was A Social Drinker, " but he can appreciate it, so "C'mon, wash me in the water, and I'll wash you."Mostly it's stomp and jangle, a little bit of Radio Shack "vintage" synth, most noticable, though still blending in, on the deadication to Alan Vega, doin' it with one foot on the altar, one foot on the grave (lively, though maybe a little too long).Also like the one where he recalls how him and his lost brother used to dress up like astronauts to trick-or-treat--this right before he explains again that all the sweet things he means to tell you are "Coming Out In Code."He's been watching the news, he knows about the guy who's a jangle-stomping "Killing Machine," having walked into a store and bought a gun, no prob, and there's store girl, takin' a smoke break---also the real life case of "Alex Nieto," shot dead by cops: they thought the taser, which he wore for his job and pointed at them during a confused argument, was a gun. Should they have handled it quite like that uh-well-ahFave so far is the one where he dreams about being Connie Britton, brushing her hair everyday, and driving her pink Caddy "up above the clouds, 'til the Trumpets sound, and then I might come down." Bunch of others too, I don't like 'em all, but they're all here:https://chuckprophet.bandcamp.com/album/bobby-fuller-died-for-your-sins-2
― dow, Saturday, 24 February 2018 02:03 (ten months ago) Permalink
Dave Alvin & Phil Alvin continue their reunion with a four-song EP. Originally released on vinyl for Record Store Day 2017, this limited edition CD includes “Hard Travelin’” (Woody Guthrie), “Mean Ole Frisco” (Arthur “Big Boy” Crudup, “California Desert Blues” (Lane Hardin) and “Kansas City Blues” (Jim Jackson).
This CD is available exclusively from the Yep Roc store and at Dave Alvin live shows while supplies last. Amazon's got the ltd. ed. vinyl for $29.99, Yep Roc lists CD for $9.00. Hadn't heard about this EP.
― dow, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:16 (ten months ago) Permalink
Which reminds me, recently posted this on the Blasters thread:
yeah so in my experience, Phil is exactly like the close-up portrait (executed in the spirit of the bold urban realist painter George Bellows)on the cover of the Blasters' s/t debut: kind of a rugged moonscape, except heated up, a little flushed, but not too, just a workin' man, with a ripplin' range of big white teeth in the spotlight, eyes closed, into it---live, he's also bobbing around, eyes still closed or tending to be, always seemed, in sound & visual, like something like an orbiting human jukebox of hot songs from several genres, a songster, as they used to say, making his moeny on the road in the great tradition---"Just think of your records as callin' cards, son," the suits started saying way back---so Al Jolson, one of the first if not the first of the record stars, quit recording for a while---reminds me, Will Friedwald, who specializes in writing about American singers, once mentioned in passing,"It was a given in his heyday that Johnnie Ray was a missing link between Jolson and Elvis"---hadn't thought of those two in the same chain, but listened to some Jolson (he came back to recording, got past "Mammy"), and yeah.Thinking of Phil in more of a direct line to and from Jimmie Rodgers, who was country as in Asheville-before-Nashville: music halls, incl. minstrel at first---he sang or at least posed in blackface, later recorded with Louis Armstrong, frequently had the jazz-blues-country-Tin-Pan-Alley thing going on, vaudeville-wise, and Phil can seem like rockin' vaudeville, and of course there's Rodgers' "Never No Mo' Blues," on The Blasters, and another version on a comp I can't locate at the moment, but even more made me wonder about what if JR lived on into the 50s, the way he adapted to trends, though the take I'm thinking of wasn't exactly rockabilly in the usual sense (reminding myself now that Elvis did rework "Blue Moon of Kentucky").Another one of the more obvious examples would be the cover of "Old Man of the Mountain," the Cab Calloway song, with Sun Ra and His Arkestra rolling along in the moonlight, no prob---on Phil's amazing Un "Sung" Stories. But really all the time, yeah go see the Blasters.
― dow, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:22 (ten months ago) Permalink
If this doesn't show, it's the cover of Dave Alvin and Jimmie Dale Gilmore's From Downey To Lubbock, out June 1:
― dow, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:30 (ten months ago) Permalink
Oops, should've incl
DOWNEY TO LUBBOCK was born by immaculate inspiration from live shows Grammy winner Dave Alvin and Grammy nominee Jimmie Dale Gilmore performed together in 2017. Just the two of them were swapping songs and cutting up, each with a guitar and a heart full of soul, musicians who ve been on the road their entire adult lives. The result is an album of blues, rock and folk inspired tunes that both of their fans will enjoy. The album contains 12 songs - 10 covers and two originals - and is destined to be a classic Americana album from two Americana legends. (on Yep Roc)
― dow, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:33 (ten months ago) Permalink
More blues than I expected, more than I've heard from Jimmie Dale for sure, but his voice and feel fit just fine---"I'm old Flatlander from the high plains," he sez in title-track opener, which is redundant--who would listen to this album without knowing the bio basics? Pretty sure most all their fans are old fans--but still it's a good capsule description of his sound and sensibility. Dig the way they find musical payoffs in the steady march through "You don't believe I love you look at the fool I been you don't believe I love you look at the hole I'm in" and keep going "back to my same ol' used to be," and now sounding pretty proud of himself/sassy with the wry--it is a jug band blues after all: "Stealin' Stealin" by Memphis Jug Band's Wiil Shade. Even more oops factor in the even ever-more-timely "Get Together" (candidly precarious hopefulness of the verses coming through more clearly to me than on the Youngbloods' verses, so chorus more urgent and troubled too), and "Deportee--Plane Wreck At Los Gatos." Best Dave solos prob on "KC Moan," about which he quotes Jimmie Dale,"There is a time for more Blue Cheer and less Blue Cheer, and this is a time for more." Also good outward bound picking on "Walk On." Only a couple of geezer-snoozers, I think.Whole thing's here:https://davealvin.bandcamp.com/album/downey-to-lubbock
― dow, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:11 (seven months ago) Permalink
Youngbloods' "version," I meant, not "verses."(The song was written by Chet Powers AKA Dino Valente, later of Quicksilver Messenger Service.)
― dow, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:17 (seven months ago) Permalink
The Long Ryders Return With Help From Dr. Dre: Listen to New Song 'Greenville'
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink
(the song is a little tom petty-ish and a little every single band in the title of this thread.)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:32 (two weeks ago) Permalink
Oh yeah, still need to check that album, thanks for the reminder.Still coming out of a bronchial wet blanket, got braced by this lil palette cleanser, all 17 minutes and 57 seconds of, it CD and vinyl EP. Marvin E., who also worked with the Ramones, sure knows how to load that milk wagon sound----double Maria here, her and Ryan there, him up front, Rolling Thunderite David Mansfield's fiddle and steel over yonder, shotgun of Dave H.'s bass, Don W.'s drums, co-writes, solo, and their greatest cover making its debut---the only track that needs turning up, but so worth it. Etzioni provides succinct, pertinent notes on all songs.
First-ever collection of the earliest, original Lone Justice’s demos.
“Maria & I woodshedded for almost a year before we were ready to take the music we had uncovered out into the clubs. This is the original line-up of Lone Justice.”—Ryan Hedgecock
Musician and producer Marvin Etzioni first saw Maria McKee and Ryan Hedgecock in a club in 1982, playing George Jones and Hank Williams covers. He convinced them they needed original material. After working and writing, the band added Dave Harrington (bass) and Don Willens (drums), the band worked up material with Etzioni and cut 5 of the 6 tracks at the famed Record Plant. An earlier session provides the 6th track.
The Western Tapes: 1983 exhibits the genesis of this highly-influential band. While the original demo version of “Drugstore Cowboy” has appeared on various compilations, the remainder of the other tracks from the sessions have remained in the can. Two of the tracks appear in their earliest demo form and wound up landing on the classic 1988 Lone Justice debut, “Working Late” and “Don’t Toss Us Away” (written by Maria’s half-brother, Bryan MacLean of the classic band, Love) which would eventually become a Top 5 smash for Country superstar Patty Loveless.
Released in conjunction with the band, the 12″ and CD EP were mastered by Bernie Grundman (who also cut the 45 RPM lacquers). It’s a look into where they started and foretells where they would go.
As Etzioni (who would later join the band) says in his liner notes: “With countless hours together, it was a fun and innocent time. I believed we were creating a 21st century country band.”
They created much, much more.
CD EP / 12″ EP TRACK LIST:WORKING LATEDON’T TOSS US AWAYI SEE ITTHE TRAINDRUGSTORE COWBOY*HOW LONESOME LIFE HAS BEENAll tracks previously unissued except *12″ EP does not include a download cardCat: OV-305
― dow, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 01:06 (eight hours ago) Permalink