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Just got Hit To Death..., Transmissions... and Clouds Taste Metallic after finally bowing to pressure from friends who know what I like. Had The Soft Bulletin since it came out, but was never massively taken with it, until now... Maybe it's 'cos I've fallen in love recently or something, but they just seem like an absolutely outstandingly fantastic band to me now, whereas before I was non-plussed by them largely...

So, Classic Or Dud? Seek And Destroy?

And does anyone know where I can get hold of Zaireeka without having to buy it from an American on ebay?


Nick Southall, Wednesday, 2 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

you can download it from any file sharing program mixed together or seperate tracks. as for the band.. i cant tell if i like them or not. sometimes they sound funky and sometimes they sound cheesy. i hate the midi violins too.

chiznaki, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

i think that this thread has happened but i'm not smart enough to find a link . . .

anyways, classic classic classsic for me. soft bulletin and transmissions are the predictable picks for their best albums and that's what i'm going to go with. ambulance and hit to death are pretty good, but i don't find myself listening to them that often. i think that clouds has some of their best songs ever, even though it kinda sags in the middle. "psychiatric exploration of the fetus with needles" is one of the best songs ever. so, search most 90s work and keep your fingers crossed for their new one, which is due sometime this year i think.

brains, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

heres what was said before for anyone interested.

i'll just repeat that hit to death and transmissions are the best, in my view, spangly guitar pop (reminds me of a lysergic us vers of suede's coming up strangely), that providing needles, and priest driven ambulance also are worth getting, that clouds taste metallic is oddly lacklustre, that zaireeka is better than you might expect, and that soft bulletin was rather mediocre.

gareth, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

man, there sure was alot of asskissing in that last flamin lips thread. i am surprised more people aren't turned off by Wayne Coyne's voice. and what about those lyrics? "when you had that accident in your car..i really thought that whole thing was bizzare!" i mean.. its cute at times...i guess. i saw them live once. they gave me a pair of headphones and the mix was all off.

chippy, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

oh! but zareeka is nice at times. i love their ideas, just not their execution.

chippy, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

I love their ideas and their execution. Classic for this guy. I'm surprised they've been able to stay on WB this long, though. I can't imagine they sell a whole bunch of records. I think someone at the label realizes they're a good band.

Nude Spock, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Am I the only one who thinks they're sinister like.. uh, I don't know, one of those children's movies that turns out to be quite horrifying like Willy Wonka. I had a high school friend who loved them from In a Priest-Driven Ambulance on & was more than a little psychotic. Search: the letter Wayne wrote to Alternative Press in 1994 re:"The Idiot Who Burned Himself Up," about an obsessed Flaming Lips fan who (possibly) torched himself outside their motel room. Also every time I hear that one song on The Soft Bulletin ("is that gash in your leg/really what has you stopped..") it reminds me of the time its melody mysteriously started playing in my head just after I saw Cronenberg's Crash. eep.

daria gray, Friday, 4 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

No, they are sinister exactly how you described them. For an even more obvious psychotic children's show comparison, see Flossie & The Unicorns (all 8 clips of which are downloadable at Creepy stuff.

Nude Spock, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

By the way, I think Gash is a brilliant way to put such a positive outlook into a song without seeming too pollyanna, or maybe a better way to put it would be a sad song that manages to be hopeful and optimistic, though the battle wages on 'til the end. I also love the superman/god theme throughout the Soft Bulletin. That is so damn cute, it reminds me of Acme Novelty / Jimmy Corrigan comics every time.

Nude Spock, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

Ok, phew!, thought it was just me re: their evil side. I always get mildly irritated by the fact that those scientists racing for the prize are "just humans with wives and children." Hey, man, some women are scientists too! Come to think of it, the song makes me think of the Cold War, so they prob all were men.

daria gray, Saturday, 5 January 2002 01:00 (fifteen years ago) Permalink

nine years pass...

Flaming Lips have made this the best Valentines Day ever!

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 February 2011 22:05 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So.....the Neon Indian collab, life-size gummi Wayne Coyne, gummi skulls with USB new songs, cereal boxes with flexi discs, etc.

Kinda feel like the Lips are hitting a Zaireeka 2 period of exploration. Musically as well as conceptually. I might have to buy some of this cereal they come up with.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 7 April 2011 15:20 (six years ago) Permalink

five months pass...

Six Hour Song anyone?

Want to be 'in' it?

Mark G, Friday, 9 September 2011 13:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Ever wonder how much it would cost to buy yourself into a Flaming Lips track? After an announcement today, it’s no longer a mystery—the answer is $100. The Flaming Lips announced today that fans can have a part in their new freakishly long six-hour track, which now is titled “Found a Star on the Ground.” Frontman Wayne Coyne announced it today on Twitter, and it seems like the offer will only be available for a limited time—maybe just today.

“We’ll be recording all day!!” Coyne said on Twitter.

But the proceeds from the track are going toward a good cause: The OK Humane Society and ACM@UCO. You can make your name a part of Flaming Lips history here

Mark G, Friday, 9 September 2011 13:52 (six years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

After years and years and years of hating this band, I finally heard a song I liked, but only because it sounded a lot like "Mercury" by Royal Trux (at least it did coming out of the club speakers last night) - the lyrics are "I was born / The day they shot JFK" or something. I guess this is from one of them earlier albums with Mercury Rev guy that I've never heard. Is any of their other stuff like this?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:42 (five years ago) Permalink

The song you're talking about is "Five Stop Mother Superior Rain" offa In a Priest Driven Ambulance (With Silver Sunshine Stares), their last indie album and the first to clearly announce the sound they'd pursue throughout the early 90s. It's easily one of my top 10 favorite Flaming Lips tracks, though there really isn't a bad song on the album. Dunno whether or not it has an official video, but here's a tube w/ photo:

FWIW, the vibe & theme are pretty typical for the Lips, echoed in different forms in many of their songs, from the first album's "Godzilla Glick" to "Do You Realize" on Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots. If you particularly like "Five Stop", I'd say the albums to check out are Priest Driven Ambulance and the major label follow-up, Hit to Death In the Future Head. A couple tracks that I think of as roughly similar:
"chrome plated suicide", from telepathic surgery, the album before PDA
"you have to be joking", from hit do death

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:30 (five years ago) Permalink

lol, make that "Godzilla Flick". for the hell of it:

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

(album version is better, but what you gonna do)

god i loved this band

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks Fozzy! Of these, I really dig "You've Got To Be Joking." Just listened to "Five Stop Mother Superior Rain" again back-to-back with Royal Trux's "Air" and the similarities are obvious (though likely coincidental). I should mention that I despise everything I've heard of this band from The Soft Bulletin on, but I'm really loving the supremely stoned psych folk vibes of these tracks. What else should I check out? Which is the album that has the most like this?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:34 (five years ago) Permalink

hey, glad you dug some of that. thing is, they've got a few basic approaches, one of them being the stoned & shattered psych folk you seem to like. starting out, they p much alternated between that and more punk-garagey psych rock, plus points in between and experiments out in various directions. as a result, it's easier to point to tracks than to albums. if you dig the crispy 70s psych vibes in general, then their first two albums, hear it is and especially oh my gawd!!!, are the most obvious place to start. after that, just work your way forward.

track suggestions that lean in psych folkwardly direction, most probably previewable on youtube:

hear it is (1986) - "with you", "jesus shootin' heroin", "she is death"
oh my gawd (1987) - "one million billionth of a millisecond on a sunday morning", "ode to c.c. part 2", "love yer brain"
telepathic surgery (1989) - "miracle on 42nd street", "the spontaneous combustion of john"
in a priest driven ambulance (1990) - "rainin' babies", "stand in line", "there you are"
hit to death in the future head (1992) - "you have to be joking" is about it, but it's a great album for lots of other reasons
transmissions from the satellite heart (1993) - "chewin' the apple of your eye", "plastic jesus" (i.e., the song from cool hand luke, awesome)

the last three represent the early days of the dave fridmann production era, and after transmissions, a great album that fridmann did not produce, they disappear down that dreary wormhole.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:31 (five years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i'm a little confused why more people aren't talking about Heady Fwends. how do the ilxors feel about it?

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 12:34 (five years ago) Permalink

The only thing I've heard from Heady Fwends is the version of The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face with Erykah Badu which is quite incredible. I just saw the album is getting a proper release on June 26th, will probably wait till then to give it a full listen. I sadly couldn't afford to get the vinyl.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 11 May 2012 13:27 (five years ago) Permalink

the Badu collab sounds like the last song that gets played in the universe. sort of like a "pop" (relatively) version of the Disintegration Loops

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I couldn't score one of the LPs (and don't want to encourage eBay cocks who bought 'em to flip on Record Store Day), and I also don't want to listen to stuff on crummy YouTube rips - looking forward to hearing the real deal!

Walter Galt, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:28 (five years ago) Permalink

are you guys part of the weird "it's disrespectful to the artist to download album leaks" clan? (even though the album has been sold publicly and you can easily buy it later?) there are obviously well-circulated rips of this if you want to hear it so badly, and i don't really see that as morally suspect...

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 14:32 (five years ago) Permalink

I suppose so! I guess I need to hear the artist say some variation on "yeah, feel free, download our stuff" rather than establishing my own set of justifications. I'm not weird or judgmental or anything like that - knock yourself out; seriously - it's just how I'm doin' it, I guess. I also have weird OCDisms about fidelity and physicality.

Walter Galt, Friday, 11 May 2012 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I do download or listen to most things before I buy them now but sometimes I really miss going out and buying an album I haven't heard before and putting it on. Don't get me wrong I've wasted lots of money in the past buying weak albums I wish I could have listened to before but now and then I wait till an album comes out to hear it, especially if its something I'm really sure I'm going to like. I'm fairly sure I'm going to really enjoy this album.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 11 May 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

i can understand that. i guess the internet has just made me impatient about hearing stuff i'm excited to hear. then again, if i hadn't listened to it, i wouldn't be going around spreading the good word to my friends and on twitter & ilx!

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 18:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah I have to admit I start off with the intention of waiting but I almost always cave in and find the download as soon as I see people talking about the album I'm interested in. I'm pretty sure I'll be back on this thread in a few days talking about having heard this album. Embryonic totally made me fall in love with this band again just as I was losing interesting in them. Didn't bother with Dark Side of the Moon but looking forward to this.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:16 (five years ago) Permalink

it's a "fun" and "zany" listen

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 19:19 (five years ago) Permalink

another Snarkout Boy about, I see

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 19:23 (five years ago) Permalink

u callin me snarky? i like the Flaming Lips record in a very unsnarky way. i think that it is good.

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 20:10 (five years ago) Permalink

was referring to poster Walter Galt, who I haven't seen before

Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 11 May 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

ahh, well done. my pop culture knowledge has failed me.

caulk the wagon and float it, Friday, 11 May 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, the Badu collab is all I hoped for (which was pretty high, given 'Embryonic' is top two or three albums of the last decade for me, and 'Mamas Gun' is probably top 5). Some of the stuff already issued on the EPs remains very good. All of the other non-EP new stuff left me bored or worse. Really hope they don't go back to "zany"--'Embryonic' is so fantastic.

Soundslike, Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:13 (five years ago) Permalink

six months pass...

I really love Heady Fwends; the middle of the album has so many great sounds. I think some truly good tunes got overshadowed by the novelty of it all. I wish they'd release all the other stuff from the limited EPs.

She Got the Shakes, Sunday, 18 November 2012 12:22 (five years ago) Permalink

"I was stuck near the food court, wasn’t able to cross the airport to get to my gate. Flight left without me, all because of Wayne Coyne."

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 13:45 (five years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

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welcome to 1995

sean gramophone, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:11 (four years ago) Permalink

sean gramophone, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:13 (four years ago) Permalink

Wow, straight out of 1990.

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

Cool cover. Maybe it's time to revisit these guys, don't think I've listened for three or four years at this point...

skip, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:17 (four years ago) Permalink

It just occured to me how much teal & orange these guys have done throughout their career.

how's life, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:18 (four years ago) Permalink

reminds me of CD bargain bins

sean gramophone, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:19 (four years ago) Permalink

weird, but i think i ended up listening to this mix: more than embryonic itself.

tylerw, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:19 (four years ago) Permalink

That's what I was thinking, sean. Is it the font?

afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:20 (four years ago) Permalink

The first thing that came to mind was Under Rug Swept.

how's life, Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:22 (four years ago) Permalink

Was pretty bored with these guys until Embryonic, which is probably one of the best things they've done since the 80s, and I got all excited again. But then that Heady Fwends thing made me kind of sick of them again. Pile on that the bullshit Wayne pulled with the Badu sisters and I'm not sure if I even care anymore.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 24 January 2013 17:24 (four years ago) Permalink

listened to this 2 times today. where are the fucking drums?

forgettable as hell. a bunch of keyboard songs that all sound the same and bleed into each other. the most psychedelic thing about this record is flipping on the echo whenever someone says the word "high"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 13 January 2017 23:31 (ten months ago) Permalink

The thing about The Terror is it so successfully conveys a mood or state of mind which it doesn't waver from, but it's not the sort of mood or state of mind that I wanna be in for an hour. That, and the LP is frontloaded.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:03 (ten months ago) Permalink

yes and that mood is this cold desperate mechanical feeling of being In An Priest Driven Ambulance. this album is just, some bored stoned guys with keyboards and echo pedals.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 January 2017 00:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

I took a long break from paying much attention to the Flaming Lips after Yoshimi, and only recently went back to the later albums. Only listened once but Embryonic seemed surprisingly incredible.

Haven't listened to the new one in full. The two singles were okay.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 14 January 2017 01:48 (ten months ago) Permalink

You guys weren't kidding about how bad this is. Just listened to it twice and could barely get through it the second time. It's as thin and forgettable as those last three Mercury Rev albums. This could well be their worst album since the 80s. At War With Mystics was disappointing but at least it had songs like vein Of Stars, My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion and It Over Takes Me. The only bit I really enjoyed on this new one is Sunrise and that's just because it borrows from that Miley Cyrus album they worked on. Seems like they used up all their best songs on that album instead.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 14 January 2017 15:09 (ten months ago) Permalink

I finally got around to reading that Wayne Coyne album rundown. Interesting stuff and I was happy to finally hear someone talk about the Ronald Jones years. I happen to love both of those records (esp Metallic) and was sorry to see him go. Seems like being in the public eye didn't suit him, which is too bad. I think when he showed up it was the first time the band had a real proper guitarist. I still appreciate his snakey guitar work to this day. I wonder what he's doing now?

kwhitehead, Saturday, 14 January 2017 23:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

Wayne mentions trying to reach out to Ronald Jones in this interview

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Sunday, 15 January 2017 20:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

I kinda like the new one after one listen at least! Don't shoot me, but it at least sounds interesting. Certainly has this pop element throughout that harkens back to Yoshime/Mystics, but as a synth slut, the tones and textures really call to me. Play it on a nice set of headphones. It's wonderfully produced at least

FWIW Embryonic and 7 Skies H3 are the only two records I have listened to from these guys more than a couple times in the past ten years.

octobeard, Monday, 16 January 2017 05:33 (ten months ago) Permalink

yeah i would be lying if i said the new one isn't growing on me each time i listen. this may be one of those albums i have to hear a dozen times before it clicks.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 16 January 2017 15:13 (ten months ago) Permalink

You know, Half Japanese's first album doesn't predate Flaming Lips' first album by that much. New Half Jap is wonderful...

dlp9001, Monday, 16 January 2017 19:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

“To me, the great revelation about rap music is that rappers don’t look at it like: ‘We’re a band, and there’s a drummer and a bass part and a guitar part and somebody sings,’” he says. “Rappers are like: ‘There’s a track, I don’t give a fuck how it got there but I’m going to do something cool on top of it.’ We liked the idea that we’d be both sides of it. On this record, we’d go in as the Flaming Lips and make a track, then we’d hand it to the other part of the Flaming Lips to sing on top of it.”

It’s a method they’ll also apply to their next project, another Miley Cyrus album, which they’re planning to fit around her current day job. “She’s going to keep being a judge on The Voice, but I know she wants to make music at the same time,” says Coyne. “I’m thinking of a way we can make a record without her having to sit there for months and months. I think she likes it when it’s like: ‘You guys do some of the work, and then I get to come in and do something really cool.’”

started skipping "Sunrise" entirely, that must be the most boring Lips song ever. not surprised to hear it originates from their first Miley album. they are making another with her? they will be stuck in this boring dumbed down pop mode forever

there are some live drums in the last song but that's it. the sameness of everything really huts the record. "Almost Home" is a demo of a song that could be good with some live drums and some energy to it. here it sounds like the band is on auto-pilot. add in repeating themes from one song to the next and it's all a blur w the occasional extra farty synth.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:51 (ten months ago) Permalink

fuck the drum machine on "Almost Home" doing those fake fills. i could be listening to Mega Man 2 and hear more far out shit than this.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 22:53 (ten months ago) Permalink

How to deal with cops (1996): call up the insects you command and the waterbugs attack the policeman

How to deal with cops (2016): give them so much money that they can retire and live the greatest life they ever lived

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 23:09 (ten months ago) Permalink

I can't get beyond the first two tracks. Seems like Wayne is the weakest link - Is it worth it?

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:10 (nine months ago) Permalink

all those references to unicorns, wizards, and castles and shit are really paying off in these reviews. "These guys are crazy and psychedelic - they sing about unicorns!" but in almost all cases it's just that, there's no substance to any of it, it's just another thing in a list of Psychedelic Things. "Day Glo Strippers?" oh wow, crazy! what are they doing? anything? no? i suppose the phrase "There should be Day Glo Strippers" alone is supposed to blow my mind.

once upon a time they could make you cry while singing about fucking folding your laundry.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 January 2017 00:02 (nine months ago) Permalink

i know this is really old news for most people reading this thread, but i really, really like The Terror. i've been listening to it non-stop on repeat. like a lot of people, they completely lost me with At War with the Mystics. i loved everything they did up to that point, but the combo of the badness of the music + the increasingly saccharine antics drove me away. anyway, i heard The Terror was good when it came out but just didn't bother with it. big mistake. i suppose i should go back and revisit Embryonic as well at some point.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 23:59 (nine months ago) Permalink

You Lust is a monster track

na (NA), Thursday, 9 February 2017 01:52 (nine months ago) Permalink

There's some great stuff on At War with the Mystics.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:15 (nine months ago) Permalink

Embryonic and The Terror are of a piece, the Lips on a bad trip. They're both excellent.

dinnerboat, Thursday, 9 February 2017 22:49 (nine months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I've been re-listening to the old stuff and it really holds up. Kind of surprised to find that i like "Transmissions" more than "Clouds" nowadays. One thing that really sticks out on those records is the high end: for instance in "Turn It On" even the kick drum has lots of high end to it. Couple that w Wayne's voice and the swirling, churning guitar noise and you have that classic sound. The new stuff is super muted in comparison, with very little high end and lots of bass.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:51 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh yeah and i re-found this old documentary on the making of "Clouds". love the part with Ronald Jones finding "The Lindsey Buckingham sound"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 10 March 2017 22:53 (eight months ago) Permalink

Tune out the lyrics or consign them to background colour and the new one is a fun, proggy trip.

dinnerboat, Saturday, 11 March 2017 19:50 (eight months ago) Permalink

Man this new album is such a let down.

If you haven't gone back to truly appreciate 'The Terror', perhaps this will convince you:

yesca, Monday, 13 March 2017 06:45 (eight months ago) Permalink

oh yeah that's great stuff. "You Lust" is really nice too.

the new one does have a lot of really nice moments. they seem to have gone back to a Soft Bulletin songwriting style, where there is a verse and a chorus and the two are pretty different so there is also an instrumental interlude, a nice little orchestrated bridge from one part to the next. some of these are my favorite parts on the new one, and yeah, very prog.

it's weird though, for all the places it goes, it still sounds too similar. maybe they are using the same sounds too many times? that chimey keyboard pops up on several tracks, sounding just a little bit different on each one, but not enough imo.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 March 2017 15:57 (eight months ago) Permalink

Wow, I hadn't seen that Turning Violent video before. Such a great song and I think The Terror is going to have a very long shelf life. I saw the band last week and after a very slow start they redeemed themselves with an entertaining (and very loud) second half of the show. Still too much reliance on bells and whistles though. At the very least, Wayne Coyne knows his audience.

kwhitehead, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:38 (eight months ago) Permalink

i'm a very casual fan but in any case, the balloon thing is so very tedious

global tetrahedron, Monday, 13 March 2017 18:48 (eight months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

Christ, Oczy Mlody surely is the weakest, most pointless "proper" studio album they've released for decades...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:15 (four months ago) Permalink


Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:19 (four months ago) Permalink

Like, you'd have to go back quite far in their discography, probably before Hit to Death... to find a weaker LP...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:23 (four months ago) Permalink

as long as you're not including priest driven ambulance in that assessment ;-)

Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Hate that i've been sand-bagging on this one hoping for goodness - SB and 5.1 Yoshimi will have to do

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 14 July 2017 05:03 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah it's pretty disappointing.

I fuckin' loved The Terror. Soundtracked my own life full of disaster at the time.

yesca, Friday, 14 July 2017 07:00 (four months ago) Permalink

I'll not hear anyone say a bad word about At War With the Mystics knowing that Oczy Mlody exists.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:09 (four months ago) Permalink

I'll not hear anyone say a bad word about At War With the Mystics knowing that Oczy Mlody exists.

It has some pretty embarrassing songs on it but it also has some amazing tunes as well - "Vein of Stars" might be the most obvious thing they've ever recorded but what a beautiful thing.

Both LPs represent the band reaching the end of a particular thread of creative inspiration (Zaireeka to Mystics and Embryonic to Oczy Mlody) so if my comparison holds up the Lips will soon be yanking the steering wheel towards somewhere else. :)

yesca, Friday, 14 July 2017 12:47 (four months ago) Permalink

I'd be very happy if they started knuckling down and writing some songs again ... I like both Embryonic and The Terror , but I also think that At War With the Mystics was unfairly panned. I can't say I'm embarrassed by anything on it, really.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 12:54 (four months ago) Permalink

The weak songs on At War With Mystics are The Wizard Turns On which sounds like a rubbish Air song and Haven't Got A Clue which sounds like a mess. Free Radicals isn't that great either. It always reminded me of Suede Head Music era B-side. The rest of the album is really good and miles ahead of anything on the new album. Vein Of Stars has gone on to become my favourite song of theirs. My Cosmic Autumn Rebellion is immense too.

Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.

kitchen person, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:03 (four months ago) Permalink

Have Got a Clue is pretty lame. also weird because it seems to have been written by a non-bandmember.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:06 (four months ago) Permalink

The Wand and Yeah Yeah Yeah = awful.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:09 (four months ago) Permalink


The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:13 (four months ago) Permalink

Interesting that you say it was unfairly panned Turrican, I do remember the Pitchfork review but it mainly got great reviews everywhere else. Uncut gave it 5/5 and said it was another masterpiece.

― kitchen person, Friday, July 14, 2017 2:03 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't mean "unfairly panned by music critics" ...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:15 (four months ago) Permalink

It's definitely a lousy record, but I agree Oczy Melody is a whole new level of bad.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:17 (four months ago) Permalink

oh god i forgot about YYY

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:18 (four months ago) Permalink

Great song, a lot of fun - which I expect automatically makes it repellent to a certain kind of music fan.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 14:27 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't think it's great or fun, and I think I like great & fun songs, but whatever floats your boat. The whole package--I found it all really insipid. Album has great art, though.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 14 July 2017 14:56 (four months ago) Permalink

'The Wizard Turns On' is great, btw.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 15:38 (four months ago) Permalink

yeah Wizard is an album highlight

they need to bring back real drums

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:06 (four months ago) Permalink

YES! I completely agree - now that Kliph's no longer in the band, Drozd should scratch that drumming itch again.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 14 July 2017 18:10 (four months ago) Permalink

"The Yeah Yeah Yeah Song" is pretty much the worst thing they've ever written. Agree that "The Wand", "Free Radicals", "Haven't Got a Clue" are very underwhelming too.

From the same sessions, "Mr. Ambulance Driver" is pretty underrated I think. I mean, it's an ode to EDDIE RABBIT.

It kind of feels like the real long lasting tune from the sessions has become "Pompeii am Götterdämmerung", at least measured by how much they play the track live.

yesca, Saturday, 15 July 2017 07:14 (four months ago) Permalink

None of those songs are bad, IMO. Certainly not as bad as anything on Oczy Mlody. I listened to both Mystics and The Soft Bulletin yesterday, and to be honest I preferred Mystics. The only thing I would change about it is the mastering, which is horrible in places.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 15 July 2017 11:44 (four months ago) Permalink

Mystics mastering is terrible for sure. Compression kills that record

Paisley Window Pane (Ross), Sunday, 16 July 2017 18:56 (four months ago) Permalink

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