Jimmy Eat World - Classic or Dud?

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Now here's a band I wouldn't mind seeing vault to superstardom. They're probably too emo (or not emo enough) to make it big, but this is seriously one great band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't they already make it big? "The Middle" was #5 on the Billboard Hot 100, and was #1 on Billboard Modern Rock.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean, like, huge. Like, Blink-182 huge. Yes, I have lofty hopes for this band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

"Sweetness" is fantastic, easily my favorie single of theirs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Sweetness indeed. Haven't heard any songs that match the good tunes on Bloody Americans though.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I like "The Middle," "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint."

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

They are corny as all hell.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I also like "The Authority Song," "A Praise Chorus," their cover of the Wedding Present's "Spangle." And a few of their early 7"s are great. I like that guy's voice. And the "Middle" video, with pretty young people in their underpants. Ah, fuck it, classic.

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i think "Lucky Denver Mint" was on the Never Been Kissed SDTK!

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link

It was. A version of the video featured clips from the movie interspersed with them playing football with jocks or something. It was on the radio quite a bit during a summer I spent as a dishwasher.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

CLASSIC

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't really cared about anything I heard off the new album.

mi¢¢io (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a blissful idiocy to their singles that remind me of andrew wk. or more appropriately andrew wk's kid brother who is a sissy. they need to hole up in a studio and make the emo Hysteria that Clarity and Bleen American only hinted at. maybe miccio could suggest an appropriate producer.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Mutt, Don Gilmore or Eric Valentine

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

they have a dumb name and the dude has a terrible haircut. that's just too much right off the bat to ask me to care further.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

OTM

Aaron A., Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

i just noticed that Trombino produces Clarity.

that is a great album

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

We coulda just stopped this thread after this comment.

Though the idea of a Mutt produced JEW record is kinda novel, I think they'd need to revisit their songwriting before committing to it. Well-polished turds and all that.

Maybe if the dude took a hiatus and got accepted to Harvard...

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to Futures at all. I'm guessing that it's not worth it at all, even if I like Clarity.

I wouldn't mind Jim Adkins coming to school.

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward, but when I met Jim Adkins he was rather pleasant!

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic classic classic, in the way that some bands you love without considering them objectively Important or World-Changing or whatever, they just make me impossibly happy to hear them and I want to dance down the street singing along and sometimes even do, and my breath catches in my throat and everything feels for the space of sone song right.

About 50% of Futures is really good, I think; some of the rest is very meh.

cis (cis), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Middle" is greatness, but everything else I've heard from them was so-so or terrible (starting with Clarity).

I'll take the first couple of Get Up Kids albums for my whiny midwestern suburbanites fix.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i'd like them more if they weren't so goddamned tasteful.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward

tell us more!

chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"Bleed American" is hard to dance to.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (fifteen years ago) link

it's apparently quite easy to dance to if you're a pretty young boy or girl in underpants.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Some European video station the other day played like seven or eight back to back tracks featuring bands playing at parties where people were scantily clad. "Bleed American", Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar", some godawful song by Incubus...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 January 2005 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Complete dud. Every song I've heard from them is like eating a big bowl of air.

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

About half of Clarity is classic and about half of Bleed American is classic, yet the band is oddly total dud.

suki suki suki (Alvaro Espinoza), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Their new song, "Pain," is possibly my favorite rock song of last year.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I find these guys a cut above in the genre that I'd get castigated to mention; mainly because there's so much terrible stuff floating about in there.

I thought 'Clarity' was excellent but the last one didn't do much for me, although I tried and tried because apparently I was missing out on something, according to some.

I bought 'Futures' cos I couldn't find anything else at the time. I played it twice and thought it was flaccid awfulness to the extreme. Something was telling me to persist, which I did, and it's becoming worthwhile with its hooks and harmonies. Yeah, so what, it's 'nice' but sometimes that suits.

Not really bothered by bad names and bad haircuts. I find it's the music that counts.

Who did the song " If Jimmy ate the world I'd be pretty pissed off" Made me laugh anyhow.

Lairy Hair (hullcity), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

have they ever explained why they did that? is it jew by accident or was it intentional?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Authority Song"?!? Do they cover Mellencamp?!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

it's an original! that sounds like Jessie's Girl!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

weird.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

no weirder than mellencamp covering the bobby fuller four but changing the title and the songwriting credit!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

also, if i remember jimmy eat world circa 2001 correctly, "the authority song" was the one song of theirs i really loved. that's the one with all the classic power-pop call-and-response harmonies on it, right?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

are you referring to "i fought the law?" you think those songs sound the same?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

is it jew by accident or was it intentional?
Ya, they got together - distraught over the fact their label wasn't kosher with them naming the band "JEW" (already a compromise over their previous name "Jimmy Jew and the Hebrews") - and came up with "Jimmy Eat World" instead.

These guys went the same way as The Promise Ring for me. I had them on a pedestal and then they blew it. All their songs sound too similar now and they seem to have replaced their authenticity with production.

Pre Bleed American - Classic
Overall - DUD

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

(x-post)
i think they sound the same in the same way that "mystery train" and the carter family's "worried man blues" sound the same. steal a concept here, steal some words there, and your own chords, and voila! i have no problem with this. but i think the debt is plain as day.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

*add* your own chords, i mean.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

oh it's just appropriation, not stealing.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i agree. i also think that appropriation involves stealing. and i think it's ok. necessary, in fact.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i know i am just joshin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Trick Daddy stole "Let's Go" from Apples In Stereo!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I think "The Middle" is a fantastic single. I knew a handful of people in college who used to big-up them Clarity-era, and who act all disappointed by them "selling out," but I never heard that record much, so I guess I don't care. I'll have to hear "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint" to see if I like them as much as "The Middle."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Plus, their acronym is JEW. That's funny!

(from one of Ryan Pitchfork's lowest moments)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

they always sounded like sell-out dumbass raspheads to me (which doesn't mean they can't make a good single or five). "Lucky Denver Mint" sounds MORE like Jamie Walters than "The Middle" does, and that's on Clarity!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

unless you're just gaga about timpani.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

and here's a new song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gnjeNqrG3w

sounds pretty good imo

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 20:27 (six years ago) link

I agree, that sounds very promising!

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:43 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

there was some awful "tweet to unlock the stream" gimmick going on but it seems you can listen to the new record without advertising it now http://damage.jimmyeatworld.com/

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (six years ago) link

record is great btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 3 June 2013 19:37 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

JIMMY EAT WORLD ANNOUNCES FUTURES
10 YEAR ANNIVERSARY HEADLINE TOUR
BAND CONFIRMS VINYL REISSUES
(PRE-ORDER AVAILABLE NOW)
STATIC PREVAILS, CLARITY, FUTURES TO BE REISSUED ON 180G COLORED VINYL


Santa Monica, CA - June 24th, 2014 - Jimmy Eat World has announced a fall North American headlining tour to commemorate the 10-year anniversary of their lauded album, Futures. Slated to kick off October 2nd at the Ventura Theater, the band will perform their 2004 release from front to back.

A listing of confirmed dates can be found below. Fan presales to begin Thursday, June 26th at 10am (local time), with public on sales commencing Friday also at 10am (local time). Additional dates to be announced soon.

Visit jimmyeatworld.com/tour for further details.

Jimmy Eat World will also reissue three titles on double LP via Universal Music Enterprises in partnership with SRCvinyl. Static Prevails will be released on August 19th, Clarity on September 2nd and Futures on September 30th. Remastered from the highest quality 16-bit/44.1 khz recording and cut as 33 1/3 RPM, each LP contains bonus song(s). Pressed by Pallas, in Germany, and mastered for the reissues by Kevin Gray.

All three titles are available for pre-order now at: http://shop.jimmyeatworld.com/ and www.srcvinyl.com. An exclusive pre-order bundle is available via Jimmy Eat World's website. In this bundle, fans will find a limited edition numbered t-shirt and LP, for each of the titles. The LPs will be for sale at all major and independent retail outlets in the US and Canada.

Pumped about the vinyl reissues, but why no Bleed American?

You know something? He *did* say "well, yeah" a lot. (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 16:44 (five years ago) link

Okay I'm probably among the bigger mid-period Jimmy Eat World stan on this board, but jesus fuck not every album needs to be celebrated with an anniversary guys.

Bus Sex Teen Busted After Queef Beef (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:39 (five years ago) link

i agree? but far as i can tell there are a ton of ppl who are all about futures

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:55 (five years ago) link

unfortunately i don't think i'll get an invented anniversary tour

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 17:57 (five years ago) link

fucking classic just for THE MIDDLE and its 1979-aping video. BLEED AMERICAN the song also geat. SWEETNESS might be their best song

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:28 (five years ago) link

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.
― m1cc1o, Friday, January 7, 2005 12:49 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

SO FUCKING OTM

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (five years ago) link

DROP D CITY

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 26 June 2014 06:30 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

once in a while I go through their whole discography and start thinking they're the best rock band ever

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 21:49 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

sooo ready for a new jimmy eat world record

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5KiGB0fp3U

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:00 (three years ago) link

what an awful album title
love them tho

flappy bird, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:24 (three years ago) link

Wasn't crazy about the first advance single, but I like this! Excited for the new record now.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 17:30 (three years ago) link

Yup, same reaction here re: "Get Right" vs. this new one.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 19:14 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

I have decided that Futures is my favorite JEW album. Integrity Blues has higher highs but also 3-4 tracks I have no use for.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:21 (two years ago) link

fav overall?

Spottie, Monday, 17 April 2017 17:27 (two years ago) link

clarity will basically never be supplanted as my fav, but integrity is prob my second favorite jew album at this point. it's def their dreamiest

for some reason i have found myself in a lot of conversations about this band lately (i didn't even bring them up!)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:39 (two years ago) link

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:21 (two years ago) link

I think if "Disintegration" and "Shame" made it to Futures it would have been more warmly received, somehow.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:34 (two years ago) link

"shame" is so good, prob the least ponderous slow song from those sessions

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:59 (two years ago) link

I will say that Integrity Blues' title track almost made me tear up on the train a few days ago

― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, April 17, 2017 11:21 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thanks for calling this one out. hadn't really listened to that one intently. sweet track.

Spottie, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 03:38 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Work is just the best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY89XG0lmhI

big city slam (Spottie), Friday, 6 September 2019 18:37 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwp9uDuxoiQ

new album, surviving, out 10/18

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 23 September 2019 12:26 (five months ago) link

best band of all time imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 23 September 2019 12:29 (five months ago) link

p sure they remixed "love never" for the record and it sounds way punchier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB7xABGta4I

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 23 September 2019 12:30 (five months ago) link

those "hey heys" are a very reliable comfort

Simon H., Monday, 23 September 2019 12:35 (five months ago) link

sax!!!!

Simon H., Monday, 23 September 2019 12:38 (five months ago) link

yah that sax was a pleasant surprise. im here for this obv.

big city slam (Spottie), Monday, 23 September 2019 16:13 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

y'all this album whips

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:43 (four months ago) link

"555" probably the closest we'll ever get to a jimmy eat world slow jam

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:50 (four months ago) link

Are JEW and 3EB releasing on the same day?

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:12 (four months ago) link

yes lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:36 (four months ago) link

also i'm very impressed by this record. thought it might be a straight-up pop-rock record like bleed american or chase this light, and it sort of is but with dark atmospheric pockets. the last two tracks are a moodshift you almost don't notice happening until it's happened

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:39 (four months ago) link

got my friday night lined up

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:43 (four months ago) link

thinking it’s time for Pitchfork to revisit Bleed American, keep righting Ryan rongs.

omar little, Thursday, 17 October 2019 02:48 (four months ago) link

xp i love "Work"

billstevejim, Thursday, 17 October 2019 03:03 (four months ago) link

this album is so dope i can't stand it. it's the closet they've gotten to bleed american since bleed american imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2019 23:42 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU-TZiVVaTE

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 11:36 (four months ago) link

haha what a weird video, love it

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:26 (four months ago) link

it made my day

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:46 (four months ago) link

perfectly illustrates the melodramatic essence of the song while also being completely ridiculous. mad max tyrant contemplating personal failures

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:47 (four months ago) link

yea it works!

this album is really slick, the songs are there. kinda wish the mix had room to breathe a little but ive felt that way since chase the light.

whole album is very listenable though. back half of the closing track is very ji\m/\m/y eat world.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:56 (four months ago) link

i wasn't ready for goth metal jimmy eat world feat. davey havok on backing vocals

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:08 (four months ago) link

oh wow thats awesome now i hear him on there. that song has so much energy. second listen through the album now and I like every song.

de-mamba mentality (Spottie), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:21 (four months ago) link

i'm doing the thiiiiings that i'm told
every day
every day
every day

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 18 October 2019 23:24 (four months ago) link

this is so good, glad i decided to check it out after seeing a headline about davey havok guesting on a song (which is still sick, but the whole album is great)

their best in a long while

DT, Friday, 18 October 2019 23:50 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p-X6zczdPA
sweet sweet harmonies

Thybulle on the Dash (Spottie), Thursday, 13 February 2020 18:31 (one week ago) link

the gong lol

Roz, Friday, 14 February 2020 05:35 (one week ago) link


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