Jimmy Eat World - Classic or Dud?

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Now here's a band I wouldn't mind seeing vault to superstardom. They're probably too emo (or not emo enough) to make it big, but this is seriously one great band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Didn't they already make it big? "The Middle" was #5 on the Billboard Hot 100, and was #1 on Billboard Modern Rock.

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, like, huge. Like, Blink-182 huge. Yes, I have lofty hopes for this band.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Thursday, 6 January 2005 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

Mackey, Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"Sweetness" is fantastic, easily my favorie single of theirs.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Sweetness indeed. Haven't heard any songs that match the good tunes on Bloody Americans though.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I like "The Middle," "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint."

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:33 (sixteen years ago) link

They are corny as all hell.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I also like "The Authority Song," "A Praise Chorus," their cover of the Wedding Present's "Spangle." And a few of their early 7"s are great. I like that guy's voice. And the "Middle" video, with pretty young people in their underpants. Ah, fuck it, classic.

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i think "Lucky Denver Mint" was on the Never Been Kissed SDTK!

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link

It was. A version of the video featured clips from the movie interspersed with them playing football with jocks or something. It was on the radio quite a bit during a summer I spent as a dishwasher.

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

CLASSIC

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't really cared about anything I heard off the new album.

mi¢¢io (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

there is a blissful idiocy to their singles that remind me of andrew wk. or more appropriately andrew wk's kid brother who is a sissy. they need to hole up in a studio and make the emo Hysteria that Clarity and Bleen American only hinted at. maybe miccio could suggest an appropriate producer.

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Mutt, Don Gilmore or Eric Valentine

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

they have a dumb name and the dude has a terrible haircut. that's just too much right off the bat to ask me to care further.

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

OTM

Aaron A., Thursday, 6 January 2005 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

i just noticed that Trombino produces Clarity.

that is a great album

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

The songs are getting flacid. Clarity-era I would have been with you. Nowadays I find them rather dull and uninspired.

We coulda just stopped this thread after this comment.

Though the idea of a Mutt produced JEW record is kinda novel, I think they'd need to revisit their songwriting before committing to it. Well-polished turds and all that.

Maybe if the dude took a hiatus and got accepted to Harvard...

martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to Futures at all. I'm guessing that it's not worth it at all, even if I like Clarity.

I wouldn't mind Jim Adkins coming to school.

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward, but when I met Jim Adkins he was rather pleasant!

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Thursday, 6 January 2005 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic classic classic, in the way that some bands you love without considering them objectively Important or World-Changing or whatever, they just make me impossibly happy to hear them and I want to dance down the street singing along and sometimes even do, and my breath catches in my throat and everything feels for the space of sone song right.

About 50% of Futures is really good, I think; some of the rest is very meh.

cis (cis), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Middle" is greatness, but everything else I've heard from them was so-so or terrible (starting with Clarity).

I'll take the first couple of Get Up Kids albums for my whiny midwestern suburbanites fix.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd like them more if they weren't so goddamned tasteful.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:50 (sixteen years ago) link

My lunch with Rivers Cuomo was totally akward

tell us more!

chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

"Bleed American" is hard to dance to.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:52 (sixteen years ago) link

it's apparently quite easy to dance to if you're a pretty young boy or girl in underpants.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Some European video station the other day played like seven or eight back to back tracks featuring bands playing at parties where people were scantily clad. "Bleed American", Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar", some godawful song by Incubus...

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 7 January 2005 00:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Complete dud. Every song I've heard from them is like eating a big bowl of air.

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 7 January 2005 01:06 (sixteen years ago) link

About half of Clarity is classic and about half of Bleed American is classic, yet the band is oddly total dud.

suki suki suki (Alvaro Espinoza), Friday, 7 January 2005 04:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Their new song, "Pain," is possibly my favorite rock song of last year.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 7 January 2005 08:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I find these guys a cut above in the genre that I'd get castigated to mention; mainly because there's so much terrible stuff floating about in there.

I thought 'Clarity' was excellent but the last one didn't do much for me, although I tried and tried because apparently I was missing out on something, according to some.

I bought 'Futures' cos I couldn't find anything else at the time. I played it twice and thought it was flaccid awfulness to the extreme. Something was telling me to persist, which I did, and it's becoming worthwhile with its hooks and harmonies. Yeah, so what, it's 'nice' but sometimes that suits.

Not really bothered by bad names and bad haircuts. I find it's the music that counts.

Who did the song " If Jimmy ate the world I'd be pretty pissed off" Made me laugh anyhow.

Lairy Hair (hullcity), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic that I never noticed they acronymize as JEW, though.

have they ever explained why they did that? is it jew by accident or was it intentional?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:43 (sixteen years ago) link

"The Authority Song"?!? Do they cover Mellencamp?!?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

it's an original! that sounds like Jessie's Girl!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

weird.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

no weirder than mellencamp covering the bobby fuller four but changing the title and the songwriting credit!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

also, if i remember jimmy eat world circa 2001 correctly, "the authority song" was the one song of theirs i really loved. that's the one with all the classic power-pop call-and-response harmonies on it, right?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

are you referring to "i fought the law?" you think those songs sound the same?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

is it jew by accident or was it intentional?
Ya, they got together - distraught over the fact their label wasn't kosher with them naming the band "JEW" (already a compromise over their previous name "Jimmy Jew and the Hebrews") - and came up with "Jimmy Eat World" instead.

These guys went the same way as The Promise Ring for me. I had them on a pedestal and then they blew it. All their songs sound too similar now and they seem to have replaced their authenticity with production.

Pre Bleed American - Classic
Overall - DUD

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

(x-post)
i think they sound the same in the same way that "mystery train" and the carter family's "worried man blues" sound the same. steal a concept here, steal some words there, and your own chords, and voila! i have no problem with this. but i think the debt is plain as day.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

*add* your own chords, i mean.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

oh it's just appropriation, not stealing.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree. i also think that appropriation involves stealing. and i think it's ok. necessary, in fact.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i know i am just joshin'.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Trick Daddy stole "Let's Go" from Apples In Stereo!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I think "The Middle" is a fantastic single. I knew a handful of people in college who used to big-up them Clarity-era, and who act all disappointed by them "selling out," but I never heard that record much, so I guess I don't care. I'll have to hear "Sweetness" and "Lucky Denver Mint" to see if I like them as much as "The Middle."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Plus, their acronym is JEW. That's funny!

(from one of Ryan Pitchfork's lowest moments)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 January 2005 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

they always sounded like sell-out dumbass raspheads to me (which doesn't mean they can't make a good single or five). "Lucky Denver Mint" sounds MORE like Jamie Walters than "The Middle" does, and that's on Clarity!

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't get how someone can give Bleed American a 3 and Source Tags & Codes a 10.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

unless you're just gaga about timpani.

m1cc1o, Friday, 7 January 2005 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

invented is also the reason i know about courtney marie andrews, she did the backing vocals on the record and toured with them and is a really amazing songwriter in her own right

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:18 (ten months ago) link

love that i dont know if youre talking about the edward sharp home or the phillip phillips home lol

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:19 (ten months ago) link

i was talking about the edward sharpe home but also lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:22 (ten months ago) link

liking movielike, coffee and cigs and evidence from the front half of this. stop is good too. a lot more soaring electric guitar leads than im used to maybe.

littlething is sounding great.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:23 (ten months ago) link

i just got to "littlething" myself and remembered how often i've cried to this record, "lol"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:26 (ten months ago) link

yah instant rewind on that one. perfect song there.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:27 (ten months ago) link

the title track!

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:42 (ten months ago) link

i may have slept on this album

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:43 (ten months ago) link

the title track is incredible. i covered it at an open mic night once

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:43 (ten months ago) link

haha nice.

and they follow it up with another epic what is this album.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:51 (ten months ago) link

imo "just tonight" is a ripper. dark hair metal jam

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:11 (ten months ago) link

i say that bc they are playing it now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:11 (ten months ago) link

ah jealous

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:14 (ten months ago) link

"the world you love"... incredible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:21 (ten months ago) link

"kill" is also the best song ever

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:21 (ten months ago) link

"kill" is top 5 for sure

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:23 (ten months ago) link

i love kill and the world you love.

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:25 (ten months ago) link

lmao well yeah this staging and arrangement are finally selling me on "drugs or me"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:27 (ten months ago) link

im gonna cry thinking about you crying to 23

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:28 (ten months ago) link

lmao it's gonna happen

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:28 (ten months ago) link

id be worried if it didnt

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:31 (ten months ago) link

whole show was really special, songs i hadn't necessarily rated came alive, really ideal. also made me realize that futures has a lot of backing vocal action and guitar fx

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:06 (ten months ago) link

also can't say enough how perfect the lighting and staging is, so much atmosphere

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:10 (ten months ago) link

any screenshots?

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:25 (ten months ago) link

i can make a few! i had started watching it all over again anyway lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 29 January 2021 23:31 (ten months ago) link

oh wow i'm so sorry for huge

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:57 (ten months ago) link

Oh wow those are sweet!

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Saturday, 30 January 2021 03:36 (ten months ago) link

I'm done, there's nothing left to show
I try but can't let it go
Are you happy where you're standing still?
Do you really want the sugar pill?
I'll wake up tomorrow and I'll start
Tonight it feels so hard
As the train approaches Gare Du Nord
As I'm sure your kiss remains employed
Am I only dreaming?

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:53 (ten months ago) link

Feeing pretty good about this. @FINALLEVEL #rhymesydicate #pod pic.twitter.com/Re505GvwVP

— Jimmy Eat World (@jimmyeatworld) January 30, 2021

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:57 (ten months ago) link

clarity show this friday!!!

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 15:13 (nine months ago) link

might need to clear out my friday

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 16:25 (nine months ago) link

tonight!!! :D

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 14:25 (nine months ago) link

pic.twitter.com/is1RaoKSvT

— Zach Lind (@zlind76) February 12, 2021

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:39 (nine months ago) link

table for glasses... goddamn

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:10 (nine months ago) link

moshed in my room to "crush," felt great

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:25 (nine months ago) link

wasn't sure if this performance was gonna be better than the futures one

it is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:38 (nine months ago) link

ugh im stuck working

a nice controlled drift (Spottie), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:41 (nine months ago) link

this is all an A+ concept way more bands oughta do

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:41 (nine months ago) link

WHEN THE WORLD CAVES IN
WHATCHA GONNA DO

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:45 (nine months ago) link

spottie you are in for such a treat after work, my god lmao

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:49 (nine months ago) link

"goodbye sky harbor" exceeded expectations

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:57 (nine months ago) link

i paid $45 for all three shows and i would've paid twice that for what i got

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 12 February 2021 23:02 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQAjoqqLwCw

just wanted to post this show from last month with the best setlist i've ever seen:

what would i say to you now
clarity
for me this is heaven
get it faster
criminal energy
no sensitivity
softer
thinking, that's all
kill
blister
night drive
surviving
goodbye sky harbor

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 16:51 (three weeks ago) link

sick

Spottie, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 17:28 (three weeks ago) link

that room is tiny. i'm sure some of you know.

DT, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 22:32 (three weeks ago) link

dang! if I was there I'd be annoyed by this ding dong holding up his phone for the entire show, but sitting here now I am super appreciative...

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 22:57 (three weeks ago) link

audio from the phoenix sessions has been gradually appearing on streaming services, futures and clarity so far. listening back to clarity this morning... it sounds so good

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:15 (two weeks ago) link

our weakness is the same
we need poison sometimes

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:16 (two weeks ago) link

is tomorrow just a day
like all the rest

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 18 November 2021 15:18 (two weeks ago) link


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