So, Does Everyone Hate Cass McCombs?

Me too. Release date?

December 11

cool cover

Looking forward to having these all together, I have a bunch of them already. I don't know:

03 Oatmeal
07 An Other
17 Traffic Of Souls
18 Catacombs Cow Cow Boogie (hoping this is the instrumental from the youtube video i posted way upthread)
19 The State Will Take Care Of Me

only tracks missing that I know are Healing (from the That's That 7") and an earlier version of Everything has to be Just So, which I have an mp3 of but don't know where it came from.

I have been looking for the original version of Everything has to be just so (and cass forum) forever! Where did find it?

Bad Grammar. Also - Mizzell, I took the extended county line video you posted. Glad someone found it.

Haha is that Adam? Tim K. here.

I've got the song on my computer - PM me yr email address!

I like it way better than the album version, btw

Having a hard time getting into this new b-sides / rarities collection. I still like it (I like p much everything this dude does), but there's some pretty skippable stuff on this new one imo. Then again, I didn't love Big Wheel either. I may just prefer Cass in smaller, digestible doses, I think.

I thought I preferred small Cass to big Cass but think this collection might be my favourite 'album' of his

Interesting! What are some favorites? I like a good third of it quite a bit, but of those, I'd heard about five of them before. Some of the earlier "garage-y" stuff doesn't appeal to me at all; one of those tunes sounds like an outtake from Incesticide or something. I wish there was more of the "Edgar Allan Poe meets Morrissey meets Lou Reed" stuff he does so well.

one of those tunes sounds like an outtake from Incesticide or something

AYD kinda quotes Nirvana ("I hate myself but I want to live"

Some def skippable tracks, but that's not much of a surprise for a b-sides and rarities collection.

AYD, Twins, Minimum Wage, Empty Promises, Evangeline, and Night of the World all really good. Traffic of Souls the pick of the previously unreleased tracks.

Thanks for the video, Griff. Let me know if you still need Everything Has to be Just So.

Anyone know if the physical copies come with some sort of background on the tracks, like what release they were on or near? I know the state will take care of me was issued on vinyl at some point because the version I found prior to this release had the signature pops and crackles.

interesting, it hasn't been release on vinyl as far as i know. Domino says 5 tracks have never been released, and The State Will Take Care Of Me is one of those, i believe.

Releases:
I Cannot Lie/ AYD - 7" Single (Monitor 2004)
Twins - B-side to Sacred Heart (Monitor/4AD 2004)
Minimum Wage - B-side to Dreams Come True Girl (Domino 2009)
Poet’s Day - B-side to The Same Thing (Domino 2011)
Bradley Manning/ Empty Promises - 7" Single (Domino 2012)
Evangeline & Night Of The World - Split Single with Meat Puppets (Domino 2014)
If You Loved Me Before… - Split Single with White Magic (Famous Class 2013)
Three Men Sitting On A Hollow Log - Split Single with Michael Hurley (Secret Seven 2013)
Lost River / Old River, Old As Angry, & Texas - 7" that came with Big Wheel and Others (Domino 2013)

That leaves Oatmeal, An Other, Traffic Of Souls, Catacombs Cow Cow Boogie, and The State Will Take Care Of Me.

The track order seems chronological in some places but not in others. Here's my guess at the chronology of the unreleased tracks -

Oatmeal - pre I cannot lie/ AYD
Catacombs Cow Cow Boogies - Catacombs era obvies
Traffic of Souls - Catacombs era (his voice, the production and instrumentation)
The State Will Take Care of Me - Wit's End era (his voice, the tape hiss and instrumentation)
An Other - Humor Risk (Very reminiscent of mystery mail and the power pop style of other songs from that era)

Thoughts?

Tim - I messaged you but not sure if you got it, when I went to the PM page I noticed an email address was missing.

saw cass play on thursday and he is slowly morphing into a jam band act. he had two drummers! and lots of extended jams and some pretty great guitar solos by dan iead. i wish cass would solo more i like his guitar playing a lot.

also his record with the skiffle players is coming out next month! https://theskiffleplayers.bandcamp.com/

NYCTaper put up a recent show here: http://www.nyctaper.com/2016/01/cass-mccombs-january-7-2016-bowery-ballroom/

(I suppose music should still continue.)

Thanks for the heads up on that Skiffle Players project. I preordered it immediately after hearing that one previewed track. Sounds really nice.

yeah, it sounds lovely. excited it's coming out so soon.

that nyctaper post is the show i was at. kinda bummed that i missed those last two extended songs, but it was getting late on a school night.

I feel silly I missed that show. I didn't have a good reason not to come out for it, except that I wasn't paying attention!

So the Skiffle Players album is nice enough. FWIW I like their "fake Floyd" better than their "fake Dead." There are two or three keepers, though. Pitchfork called it "low stakes" and after two listens I'd say that's pretty otm. Maybe I'd like it more if it came out in summmertime; it's not at all a winter record.

this is pretty good: https://soundcloud.com/cass-mccombs/cass-band-tophane-musicians

"last halloween, we travelled to turkey for the very first time to perform at the akbank caz (jazz) festival. late that same night, we had an impromptu jam with some incredible & talented local musicians, in the istanbul district of tophane. the recent attack in istanbul was only a few streets over to where this was recorded & our hearts go out to all our friends in turkey. one could title this jam 'halloween in istanbul', but as our new friends informed us, only bobos celebrate halloween in istanbul. some of the musicians are from the band gevende. nuff said, it was a magical and chaotic evening & hope you get something out of listening. peace through music & much love to turkey"

upgrading from "pretty good" to "very good"

New single is great

http://pitchfork.com/news/65669-cass-mccombs-announces-new-album-and-tour-shares-new-track-listen/

Agreed! I really liked it

cool song

I guess this song's going to be on the new album - https://soundcloud.com/darkdarks/sky-ferreira-rancid-girl

Update the forum if you get a freebird!

wrong thread?

Written with Jon Brion, Cass McCombs, and Fiona Apple collaborator Blake Mills.

Gaz McCoombes

Mangy Love:

01 Bum Bum Bum
02 Rancid Girl
03 Laughter Is The Best Medicine
04 Opposite House
05 Medusa’s Outhouse
06 Low Flyin Bird
07 Cry
08 Run Sister Run
09 In A Chinese Alley
10 It
11 Switch
12 I’m A Shoe

Presumably sung by him

I guess this is what we can expect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU4SNapX8EU

lol

New Song!

Run Sister Run -

https://soundcloud.com/antirecords/cass-mccombs-run-sister-run

I wanna like the new album, but little things rub me the wrong way. Some of these folky pop numbers have a stiff and forced feeling to me.

I like about half of it. Wish there were more songs like "Medusa's Outhouse" and fewer like "Cry."

Same here

It hasn't fully grasped me yet but I was having to listen to it in a browser at a desk and not walking around with headphones, so I feel like there's more to come from it. Bum Bum Bum is great.

Like half of it is great but it's just so...smooth

"Bum Bum Bum" is definitely one of the good ones. And I like "Laughter Is The Best Medicine" (which admittedly contains some of the smoothness bunny mentions; definitely some Pat Metheny or Bob James moves in that intro) and "Opposte House," as well as the aforementioned "Medusa's Outhouse." The rest (basically the back half of the album) is where he loses me this time: "Cry," "In A Chinese Alley," "Run Sister Run," etc.

Im obsessed with that "medusa's outhouse" song. The album is really, really good. His best since "Catacombs" imo

No way man. Humor Risk is his best!

I'm pretty sure it's Wit's End

Big Wheel for me

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^^^ one of my fave lyrics from the new album

Dropping the Writ always moves me the most, Catacombs comes in second

Testament to an artist's greatness when there is no consensus on what is his or her best album

For me, it's Humor Risk > Catacombs > Wits End > Big Wheel > Dropping The Writ > Prefection > A > Mangy Love, and those first two are two of my favorite indie* records of all time

(*indie meaning guitar-based music made after 1985 that has vocals)

In fact, the only songwriters in this genre I have any time for in 2016 are Cass, Callahan, and Bejar.

That said, the new album remains a disappointment despite many listens