So, Does Everyone Hate Cass McCombs?

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Also, to answer the question, it seems like a lot of the people on ILM who hate Cass are from SF and saw him play a while ago. It seems like he must have sucked back then. But he doesn't anymore.

Magic City (ano ano), Thursday, 20 January 2005 04:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i really like this. at least I like the EP of his i have

zach farver, Thursday, 20 January 2005 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i have one of the new songs, sacred heart--has a morrissey sound to it. weird

owen reading, Friday, 21 January 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought that too owen

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 21 January 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i dig

john clarkson, Friday, 21 January 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I really like the uptempo songs. I remember how surprised I was by them when he played them live last year.
Bury Mary is my favorite right now. It sounds like the velvet underground and has my favorite lyrics, namely

ping ping goes the shovel
pang pang goes the pail
the middle of summer
and the furnace will be burning
when she gets some mail!

Tourist Woman is also great
Not crazy about the production and a little disapointed in some of Tim DeWitt's drumming; he's usually great.

Magic City (ano ano), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, bury mary has that lonesome cowboy bill thang going on. i wrote something about this album, i'll have to post it on my blog tonite.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 5 February 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

mia is shit.

mia is shit., Saturday, 5 February 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
i started a cass mccombs thread once!

scott seward, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i did too, once. i am glad we have that in common. did you post about him on your blog ever?
i saw him on saturday, he still makes me swoon.

mizzell, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i wrote something about this album, but i never published it anywhere. i probably still have it somewhere. i haven't listened to Prefection in a long time. i should dig that out as well. such a nice record.

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that records lots...especially "She's Still Suffering"...hell, I even like the "car alarm" song at the end...I note with interest (my home state) that the it was recorded in a studio in Benton Harbor, Michigan...

henry s, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i like cass mccombs and saw him last week. he was good.

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i was surprised how good he sounded given that a) the sound sucked and b) arboreutem was his band and they= not so good.
excited for a new record!

mizzell, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 16:58 (seventeen years ago) link

hah, i agree on arbouretum, although they were better than when i last saw them - a little more fairport/richard thompsony than i remembered? still only one or two of the jamalamas achieved liftoff. the acoustic stuff w/cass was really nice too. are you talking about the baltimore show?

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:01 (seventeen years ago) link

oh right, saturday = not baltimore

pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

three months pass...

so, the single is out there. That's That. sounds pretty good.

mizzell, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

nice guy

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

great name, too...sounds like a hero of the Wild West...

henry s, Wednesday, 8 August 2007 17:47 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the first song (Lionkiller) on the new album is pretty sweet. kinda dark, with a dinky keyboard riff towards the end. has anyone heard the record?

mizzell, Friday, 31 August 2007 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

since the last album really lit up ilm, i am proud to announce that a new album, Catacombs, is coming out in June. First single, dreams come true girl, is out there on the internet. I didn't like a lot of Dropping the Writ, but based on the last time I saw him live, I am anticipating this.

mizzell, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 15:58 (fifteen years ago) link

feel a little bad that i didn't hear the last album and now there's a new one. but i'm a busy guy.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

the new album,Catacombs, (he probably thought about this title for years..) is very good.
in fact, it's probably one of the better records of 2009.
References:John Lennon,Robyn Hitchcock,Calvin Joohnson,Nick Drake,Robert Wyatt...

great, minimal production too.

Zeno, Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only heard one song by him: "Full Moon or Infinity". A friend put it on a mix for me. I really liked it! Is that song of typical quality for McCombs?

loaf man (Z S), Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't know that song.
the only record i heard from him is perfection, which is very good, but he changed styles almost totally afterwards.(less 80's more 70's and accesible, in short)

Zeno, Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

also sounds kinda like a richard davies solo record. or bill fay, which is a great compliment.

Zeno, Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i like "full moon or infinity" despite it sounding like elliot smith. i've never heard it mentioned as a highlight, and he has better songs. if you like that song i think you will find plenty to like on his albums.
i'm not totally convinced by the new one yet. it's too long by about three songs. the first track is really excellent, though.

mizzell, Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:37 (fifteen years ago) link

if you are looking for something that sounds like richard davies, i recommend aptos by the moore brothers, which is probably my favorite album of 2009.

mizzell, Sunday, 3 May 2009 01:39 (fifteen years ago) link

"Harmonia" is my JAM right now.

Dave Depper (Davey D), Sunday, 3 May 2009 07:34 (fifteen years ago) link

New record might be his best.

litcofsky, Saturday, 16 May 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

wow I forgot about cass mccombs. I really liked those first two records and then somehow totally forgot about them.

akm, Saturday, 16 May 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

dude, she choked on a ham sandwich. preserve what little dignity she has left.

macaulay culkin's bukkake shocker (bug), Saturday, 16 May 2009 03:53 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

akm, I did the same as you. But this new single brought it all flooding back. Such a beautiful song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyeBD4MYRk8

Barnaby, Hardly, Monday, 13 July 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link

i kinda ignored that song at first cause there are too many slow ones on the album but it is really excellent.

mizzell, Monday, 13 July 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

A is still one of my favorite records of the 2000s!

69, Monday, 13 July 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Just got the new album and listened to it once - "Harmonia" is the track that is really jumping out at me thus far. And "Dream Come True Girl," but that one not in a good way. The rest of the album I need more time with.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 14 July 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i saw him last night with a new band including andy mcleod on drums and the bassist from bishop allen. they were great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVo7eueP6wA

mizzell, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm gonna turn this into a youtube thread now. last summer he played this fun, sun records-ish instrumental, wonder if he recorded it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c5wMLspJN8

mizzell, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSZ1QEUwRy8

mizzell, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:51 (fourteen years ago) link

never heard of him until his new one. like it a lot, reminds me of prime go betweens at points.

Michael B, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i've gotta get this -- i think he's a super-talented guy, and have loved some individual songs over the years, but from what I've heard, he's yet to make a truly great record. maybe this is it?

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

It is pretty good - turning out to be quite a grower. I wrote about it yesterday.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

nice review!

tylerw, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

i have listened to catacombs and can only conclude that this guy is a low-level sociopath.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 03:22 (fourteen years ago) link

please elaborate

mizzell, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 04:02 (fourteen years ago) link

karen black!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5l8lqNakPI

scott seward, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

theres just such an insane amount of narrative distance with his stuff--i can only conclude that he's insincere, that he's fucking with me, or that he's more of a cranky editorialist/ironist than anything else. like "executioner's song" is so gorgeous melodically, and it's a great performance by him, but the lyrics + the title are fucked, and you can tell he knows this and knows the effect he's going for. a lot of his songs are also concerned with participating/not participating in mainstream normal stuff ("don't vote" being the biggest example but there are more) and he consistently comes down on one side of that debate. he's just a weird fucking dude.

that being said, it's an excellent record and a few of the tunes are really sticking with me and having an emotional effect--totally glad i bought it.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 04:26 (fourteen years ago) link

video is certainly strange:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KtPQt8B8HA

scott seward, Wednesday, 23 December 2009 04:38 (fourteen years ago) link

theres just such an insane amount of narrative distance with his stuff--i can only conclude that he's insincere, that he's fucking with me, or that he's more of a cranky editorialist/ironist than anything else.

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:26 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I first meet Cass McCombs in a dressing room...His first sentence after “I’m Cass” is “Give me a minute to get changed into my outfit.” He returns 25 seconds later wearing a round straw hat and a denim jacket with a bright pink, airbrushed scorpion on it. Across his shoulder blades are the self-referencing bubble letters “Lion Killer.” Also sunglasses.

“It’s easier to be somebody when you have an outfit,” he tells me as we spill from Vancouver’s Commodore Ballroom out into an alley through alarmed fire doors.

BUT! There are some songs that are very emotionally direct and sincere. Dreams Come True Girl for one. Harmonia is a gorgeous song, about making yourself vulnerable, getting hurt, and realizing that the risk was worth it.

mizzell, Tuesday, 29 December 2009 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i like Catacombs a lot. i could see that being someone's fave Cass. that has such great songs on it. i wouldn't mind having that on vinyl. 2XLP.

still listening to Wit's End and "Buried Alive" is up there for me too. sounds so good. the guitar especially.

scott seward, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:24 (one week ago) link

I remember "Memory's Stain" really blowing me away, too--am in need of a relisten myself!

Have only cherrypicked/skimmed through his Anti- output in recent years, am now thinking I should attempt to give those later albums some (mangy) love

Funding Hostile (Craig D.), Monday, 6 May 2024 16:29 (one week ago) link

don't sleep on Tip of the Sphere!

gotta agree wit's end is impeccable

corrs unplugged, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:31 (one week ago) link

Scott, have you ever listened to this? Cass is in this group:

https://theskiffleplayers.bandcamp.com/album/skifflin

Evan, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:33 (one week ago) link

that Skiffle Players album never clicked with me. I kinda want to sell it, given the prices it seems to get.

mizzell, Monday, 6 May 2024 16:42 (one week ago) link

I saw him play a small intimate gig with Steve Gunn last Thursday. They did a gorgeous psychy rendition of "Wild Mountain Thyme".

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 6 May 2024 17:04 (one week ago) link

Skifflin'! oh man no i didn't know about that one.

scott seward, Monday, 6 May 2024 17:12 (one week ago) link

"County Line" is one of my favorite songs.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 May 2024 17:16 (one week ago) link

that Ned Collette album i praised above is kinda like the new Taylor Swift. the first LP is perfect and all you need out of an album and then some. BUT if you want more there is a 2nd LP.

scott seward, Monday, 6 May 2024 17:19 (one week ago) link

The “Coo Coo Bird” cover is good! I like the Skifflin’ album

your dog is fed and no one cares (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 6 May 2024 17:48 (one week ago) link

I don't know why exactly but this one really gets me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWX09AivQGk

Evan, Monday, 6 May 2024 18:59 (one week ago) link


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