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Just got another thomas mapfumo comp [my third] of his 70s stuff and i suddenly realize i want tons more of this sort of thing.

stuff like: nigeria/angola 70s comps, sunny ade, orch. baobab, "guitar paradise of east africa", early mahlathini & mahotella queens, early bow wow wow (just kidding), etc.

the 70s youssou n'dour cassettes which are apparently now on cd are probably my next major stop... anybody have these & care to comment?

what are your favorite artists & comps in this area? what do you recommend for people who have all the fela they need? is there a record of this type in your collection that you want to talk about?

mig (mig), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:01 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a phenomenal Sunny Ade collection of 70s stuff that I think is just called "Best of the Classic Years"

I'd like to know more about this kind of stuff too -- I definitely prefer the records from the 70s to the glossy 80s sound.

You might also like a comp called "Electric Highlife"

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 11 November 2004 05:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Rail Band era Salif Keita & Mory Kante (slowly rolling Mali-rock in the vein of Baobab at their most stretched out).
Daniel Owino Misiani & Shirati Band Benga Blast (fierce Kenyan guitar pop with heavy bass lines; to this dabbler's ears it sounds sort of like soukous riding a S African groove).
Sam Mangwana, Maria Tebbo / Waka Waka (folks much more knowledgeable than me regard this as all-time classic soukous and it sure sounds grand to me).
Not always precisely your era, but almost any Afropop collection from John Storm Roberts' sadly defunct Original Music label is worth getting. My personal favorites are Ignace de Souza (60s highlife with forays into Afro-beat & "twist & shake" which is still rock & roll to me); Telephone Lobi (50s-60s highlife); Lucky Stars & Rosy Mornings (60s juju).

max davenport (axehead), Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:15 (sixteen years ago) link

rough guide to franco!!

dave k, Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I like that franco disc.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 11 November 2004 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link

there's a massive series called Ethiopiques, ethiopian soul from late 60's-70's
I got vol. 1 and 13 I think, and it's nothing but good

tremendoid, Thursday, 11 November 2004 07:10 (sixteen years ago) link

well i love ethiopiques (of course) but its not really guitar pop for the most part. but you shld still get it.

bembeya jazz is a must, guitarist has the nickname diamond fingers for his playing and tosses in some cool hawaiian guitar touches too

H (Heruy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 07:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I sometimes fantasize about going to Nigeria just to look for old juju and afrobeat records that haven't been reissued.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Zani Diabate and the Super Djata Band had an s/t album out on Mango in the '80s that's right in line with what you're looking for, despite being from the wrong decade. Total super-reverby snake-charmer guitar grooveaholic action.

Also, the s/t disc from South Africa trio Malombo is a pip. (I picked it up in the US in the '80s as well, but the recording itself may be a bit older.) Guitar and percussion, not so much driving as grooving and goofing, with plenty of sly, almost accidental hooks. Great cover too.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

There's a very good Mahlathini & the Mahotella Queens comp, possibly called King Of The Groaners but I am at work now and can't check my collection.

Search anything by Diblo-Dibala, Dali (Dally? again, can't check from here) Kimoko or Bongo Wende from before about 1990 (Diblo particularly went very downhill). There's also some terrific Zambian guitar pop from people like Amayenge and Shallawambe. Then there's the Zimbabwean stuff - Four Brothers, Bhundu Boys of course. Most of this stuff is more '80s than '70s, though.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Ooh, I can second the Bhundu Boys.

Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:32 (sixteen years ago) link

I would be very, very happy if someone sent me a mix of this stuff someday. :>

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:34 (sixteen years ago) link

You might also like a comp called "Electric Highlife"

Yea, "Electric Highlife: Sessions from the Bokoor Studios" on Naxos World is a great collection of Ghanian '70s and '80s highlife.

I was just reading somewhere about a new collection of obscure 70s Nigerian stuff. I had that written down (must find it).

There's a nice Senegalese blog ("Benn Loxo du Taccu") I like: mattgy.net/music

steve-k, Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i was just about to post that benn loxo du taccu link. it's so great, everybody go there!

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 11 November 2004 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I get that "Tsu Tsu Tsosemo" song stuck in my head all the time. The story in the liner notes is pretty fascinating too (about the sessions taking place partly because live music had actually been banned).

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 11 November 2004 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Electric Highlife

this is fairly middling, i think. the one track with a hot rhythm [yaka duru] is the earliest on there, the only pre-80s track and it shows.

that said, i am not ruling out 80s records any more than 60s ones... i did include "guitar paradise" in my list to illustrate that fact. sure the solid state studio sound, cheap synths ruined lots of records, and lots of records appeared in the world music boom that should never have gotten the exposure they did, but this thread should be a place for sieving through that and claiming the gold.

Rail Band
you're talking about the sono africa reissue, right? yeah, that's a quite pleasant record, although not so different to my ears as, say, "definitive dairo" or something like that

John Storm Roberts' Original Music
i have "nairobi sound", "africa dances", and "kenya dry", they are indeed excellent, while not quite as rhythmically hard as what i was talking about in this post... of this series what i am most keen to acquire is one of the oriental brothers comps...

Sam Mangwana
have heard of this, will add it to the wish list, thnx

franco
thirded

ethiopiques
yeah, this isn't what i'm talking about at all, apart from vol. 4 maybe... but while on the subject, i think #7 is the most essential

bhundo boys
not so into this

Malombo
never heard of this, will check it out

Super Djata Band
seconded. great guitar on this, pretty harsh treble at times, i like it a lot

mig (mig), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Mig, is there a comp that you would recommend?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny, I've been listening endlessly to Etoile de Dakar's 'Lay Suma Lay' this week. Great great stuff (but 80s)

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 11 November 2004 21:53 (sixteen years ago) link

mig, what do you think of babatune olatunji's mid 80s 'The Beat'

when he revisited his first album, (got santana on guitar which is not quite what you meant by guitar pop) but the rhythms are indeed bitchin'

H (Heruy), Friday, 12 November 2004 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Salif Keita with Les Ambassadeurs Internationales is definitely worth a listen.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 12 November 2004 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I'm starting to plumb the depths of Guinea and its national label/bands. I've heard some Bembeya stuff I like, but the real treat has been 22 Band. I first heard a great track on a WFMU show and then found this:

http://matsuli.blogspot.com/2007/10/lets-make-that-22-then.html

Fantastic album.

Hurting 2, Monday, 5 November 2007 05:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Do Osibisa count?

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 5 November 2007 05:59 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Daniel Owino Misiani & Shirati Band Benga Blast (fierce Kenyan guitar pop with heavy bass lines; to this dabbler's ears it sounds sort of like soukous riding a S African groove).

I think the more recent Kings Of History which was actually recorded several years earlier,probably best part of a decade. Sound is better too it having been remastered last year. The cd of Benga Blast I have is pretty quiet.
Been hoping that Kings Of History would be rerally popular and cause people to compile a lot more Benga. Been trying to get hold of more since first coming across Shirati Jazz on a single that I first really remember appearing at hiome in the early 80s. My dad is a Luo, the tribe who create the music. Don't think he was musical though.
so hoping Kings provokes the compiling of a volume 2.

Stevolende, Thursday, 10 March 2011 20:14 (ten years ago) link

ten years pass...

Random youtube stumble, know nothing about the band but sounds incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcB1k282z9c

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 April 2021 12:53 (one week ago) link

mislabeled btw, that's Orchestre Kara de Kinshasa (as shown in picture), not Canon du Zaire. At least the first 40 mins or so are.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 30 April 2021 13:59 (one week ago) link


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