C/D: the clientele

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lots of discussion about them, but never an official c/d thread.

boring and samey? hazy and dreamy? probably some of all four. listening to suburban light for the first time right now.

what are your thoughts?

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 5 November 2004 01:58 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the early singles are uniformly wonderful to my ears. the violet hour meanders a little at times but is still a pretty strong record. my fave thing is the "lost weekend" ep, least fave (by a long shot) is the "ariadne" ep, which i don't think much of at all.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:02 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Good sleeping music, and I mean that as a compliment.

Peanuts (Peanuts), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:15 (twelve years ago) Permalink

The Violet Hour is a pretty good album. The first song, the title song, sets the tone for it to be an album experience unlike the EP/singles collection. At times strangely it has the spidery guitar lines of the Grateful Dead. One of the most underrated albums of '03 I think.

steve hise, Friday, 5 November 2004 02:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Esoj, did you see that Alasdair MacLean is playing Sydney and Melbourne at the end of the month?

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

oh he's coming to melbourne now too? i only heard he was doing sydenee

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Last I saw, he was a playing a Melbourne show at a venue TBA.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I think they are pretty awesome; I saw them live a couple years ago and was surprised by how good they were and how amazing all those chord changes are. That song "The House Always Wins" is beautiful.

I don't know what to call these bands, like the Clientele, from whom you expect very little originality because of their micro-genre, but who make really good music in that micro-genre. I think that by the rules of the game they play the Clientele are a huge success.

mrjosh (mrjosh), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:39 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"(I Want You) More Than Ever" gives me chills. Obviously classic.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 5 November 2004 02:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Clientele are absolutely classic. No doubt about it.
The singing through a guitar amp is just classic, classic.

Dream gig: Eric Matthews vox + orchestral arrangement + Clientele guitars, drums, bass, production, lyrics

caspar (caspar), Friday, 5 November 2004 03:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the album was a bit of a letdown, but then the relict album came out and everything was ok because i didn't expect much from it and yet it was much better than the violet hour. clientele should get a female singer or two too or he should maybe sing more in his falsetto to break up the monotony that plagued the album or maybe they should only do eps.

eric matthews dresses nicely.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 5 November 2004 03:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

This band is shit. They are too boring to be a dud.

danh (danh), Friday, 5 November 2004 03:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They were much better live than I would have expected. You don't notice on the albums how good a guitar player he is, and likewise the vocal production slightly obscures how good his voice his.

dlp9001, Friday, 5 November 2004 03:53 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Awesome

aaron_spellings, Friday, 5 November 2004 10:43 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I love Suburban Light, esp. Saturday & Rain.

Jez (Jez), Friday, 5 November 2004 11:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Classic

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

is it reasonable to like the clientele and NEVER want to hear low?

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 5 November 2004 14:46 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I feel the exact opposite.

danh (danh), Friday, 5 November 2004 15:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I love the clientele and can't stand listening to Low for more than a few seconds.

They're not very similar at all really.

Magic City (ano ano), Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Not to knock Low but the Clientele is more tuneful, more chamberpoppy or whatever.

stever hise, Saturday, 6 November 2004 00:33 (twelve years ago) Permalink

no album in history is more perfect than the violet hour.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 01:04 (twelve years ago) Permalink

he sings through a guitar amp! shit, i was wondering how the vocals got to sound that way and was thinking maybe that was it. perfect, sounds amazing.

both their full length albums are so fucking beyond classic. im not sure which is better, i'd say a tie. everything is perfect on them. the overall capturing of mood, the lyrics, melody, chord progressions, harmony, bass lines, drums. it is all perfectly composed.

They were much better live than I would have expected. You don't notice on the albums how good a guitar player he is, and likewise the vocal production slightly obscures how good his voice his.
-- dlp9001

i DO notice. he's amazing. I wish they'd come to boston so i could see them.

that said, i was a bit let down by the relict album...

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

christ. I cant let this go. this band is just too great.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 6 November 2004 02:30 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Yeah, these guys are definitely my favourite band in the world at the moment. They can do now wrong. I'd really like to see them live. Apparently Alasdair MacLean used to post here.

grapeshine (grapeshine), Saturday, 6 November 2004 11:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Rather, they can do no wrong.

grapeshine (grapeshine), Saturday, 6 November 2004 11:21 (twelve years ago) Permalink

A unique position for me in relation to this band: I've played tennis with Alasdair lots of times, and think of him as a pal, but I've never heard the band. I suspect they aren't my kind of thing, really.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 6 November 2004 17:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

They are well worth listening to Martin. Very subtle stuff; I like it a lot.

Keith Watson (kmw), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:09 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i wonder if alasdair will be adopting the laidback luke sound, surely its only a matter of time. must get on to that mp3 cd actually

*@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 6 November 2004 18:24 (twelve years ago) Permalink

So classic it hurts.

Mooro (Mooro), Saturday, 6 November 2004 19:34 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm torn about hearing them - I was in the same position with another friend, and I recently heard that band on a compilation CD and disliked them. I'd rather not hear them and accept it's not my thing than hear and dislike them. I don't suppose Alisdair will be bothered either way.

I note that even a thread about Tim H's favourite band hasn't succeeded in making him post here again, sadly.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 6 November 2004 20:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

come on, tim!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Saturday, 6 November 2004 21:41 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i wish alasdair were around now so i could ask him like, a bazillion questions.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 6 November 2004 22:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

id love to know their song writing process, instruments, recording techniques, and stuff about his lyrics.

AaronK (AaronK), Saturday, 6 November 2004 23:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i like their first record very much, but i haven't listened to violet hour more than once or twice, for some reason. i have a few of their early 7"s which are very good. i really like their "split" single with the relict.

they sort of skirt the edge of self-parody with all the "mrs jones"/"rain" references. jess and i had a joke going about this once upon a time. jess likes them too.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 00:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i put "split" in scare quotes because the relict are just the clientele with their bassist writing the songs. in any event that single has female vox on both sides. "(i can't seem to) make you mine" and "held in glass" are the titles of the songs IIRC. very nice. i wish i had them on cd, since my turntable is in storage right now.

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 00:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

i put "split" in scare quotes because the relict are just the clientele with their bassist writing the songs.

Not quite - Innes (Relict main man) used to be in The Clientele some years back but not since I've known them ('99). It's true that the rest of The Clientele appear on Relict recordings.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:19 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ok, thanks for the clarification!

amateur!!st, Sunday, 7 November 2004 02:29 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I listened to the Lost Weekend and Ariadne eps last night. I had switched over to my flannel sheets and down comforter and it was toasty and wonderful, the sinking weight of the down. The connection between those eps, if any, I think is in the fragment 'boring postcard' and 'The Sea Inside a Shell': running on the beach on summer holidays train just in fast forward film and then falling. Alasdair explained the front cover of Ariadne on their radio appearance at NYU. But not just falling through sky but space -- beauty that's too intense too much for the senses -- and then at the end falling into the atmosphere, against substance, that shuffling and settling running fingers over flying past.

youn, Monday, 8 November 2004 19:08 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Search: 'From A Window'.

the pinefox, Monday, 19 September 2005 13:13 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nyquil rock if i ever heard it. they opened for spoon and it was one of the worst ways to prepare for the main event i can think of.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 19 September 2005 18:47 (twelve years ago) Permalink

nine months pass...
yeah, who put that together anyway?

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 01:20 (eleven years ago) Permalink

merge records maybe?

electric sound of jim [and why not] (electricsound), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 01:41 (eleven years ago) Permalink

couldnt be.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 02:05 (eleven years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

Is it me, or does anyone else think that if someone took out all the upbeat pop songs off their all albums, took the remaining slower, sadder, melodic stuff off (e.g. As Night Is Falling, The Violet Hour, policeman getting lost etc.) and put it all one one album, it would be the best thing ever made? As opposed to just really good, of course.

mehlt, Friday, 25 January 2008 03:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

i don't, but that's because i like the upbeat stuff better

electricsound, Friday, 25 January 2008 03:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

I love virtually everything I've heard from them. CLASSIC.

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 25 January 2008 03:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

what is the thing that is coming out on acuarela?

keythkeyth, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:47 (nine years ago) Permalink

Suburban Light is one of my favorite albums of this decade.

Cunga, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

Alright, my above comment was unfair. They have as much good upbeat stuff as slow stuff, and I really really hate to say it but they could have done with taking some of their songs off their albums. That is to say, they could have released some impeccable EP's, rather than really good albums.

Still love them nonetheless. I also thought they were a hip-hop group the first time I heard of them.

mehlt, Friday, 25 January 2008 05:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

The Violet Hour is utterly flawless from start to finish. The only song I could possibly see being taken from it might be House on Fire but even if it seems like it could be removed I suspect the truth is something terrible might happen to that perfect, perfect record if you did.

f. hazel, Friday, 25 January 2008 09:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

That's still a good selection. I got Violet Hour late last year without having to pay a crazy amount for it. It's one of those albums that was just made to be played on vinyl.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 24 March 2014 21:48 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh for sure

Evan, Monday, 24 March 2014 22:20 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

http://www.jazzhouse.dk/jazzklub/clientele-uk-1

Copenhagen in August sounds nice.

Tim, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 11:30 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Copenhagen in August was nice.

Tim, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 10:48 (one year ago) Permalink

ended up giving my tickets to a friend since I had to attend a wedding - but I hear it was nice :')

niels, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 10:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Consensus among the small collection of regular Clientele show-goers was that it went very well - sorry you missed it Niels. The band seemed to enjoy it also. I had a great time too, always a pleasure to visit Copenhagen.

Tim, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 11:05 (one year ago) Permalink

(Progress towards a new LP also, I hear - apparently the songs are really very good indeed, though they didn't play any new ones this time, largely due to lack of opportunity to rehearse them properly.)

Tim, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 11:09 (one year ago) Permalink

(Fantastic news!)

niels, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 12:15 (one year ago) Permalink

A new album would be absolutely incredible news.

Evan, Tuesday, 23 August 2016 12:35 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Alasdair solo in London tomorrow night, I'm looking forward to it: http://www.wegottickets.com/event/360295

Tim, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 08:15 (one year ago) Permalink

Thx for reminder, now I just have to remember it's tomorrow...

(Is John promoting this?)

koogs, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 20:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm not sure; I bought tickets.

Tim, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Same here. We're 14 left, now only 11.

koogs, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Good! See you there.

Tim, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 22:41 (one year ago) Permalink

I would like to go but considering the time difference I think the show is over already.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 23:37 (one year ago) Permalink

You've about 13 hours before it starts, that's still time.

koogs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 05:42 (one year ago) Permalink

(Although ilm is showing me a GMT time for my post and not a BST time so be careful you're not an hour late.)

koogs, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 05:44 (one year ago) Permalink

Yeah you'll need to get a swerve on though, it's the getting from Heathrow to Kings Cross that'll take the real time.

Tim, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 08:23 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll parachute in to avoid ground transportation issues. Just want to be sure I don't upstage him with the landing.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 14 September 2016 15:53 (one year ago) Permalink

I'll just try to imagine how great it'll be from way over here in the US

Evan, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 16:10 (one year ago) Permalink

will leave the actual comments on the gig to tim but facebook said 7, we got tickets said 7:30. doors were actually 7:45 and that was followed by 50 minutes of sitting and waiting which is dull if you're there on your own and it's too dark to read...

anyway, he's playing again for Daylight Music at the Union Chapel on Nov 5th. remember, remember...

https://www.facebook.com/events/1200135206704929/

koogs, Thursday, 15 September 2016 12:25 (one year ago) Permalink

It was delightful, Alasdair playing mostly CLientele songs we're used to hearing at full-band shows, from the slower end of things (Reflections After Jane, Saturday etc, the most upbeat was Since K Got Over Me), one or two we're less used to hearing these days (Bicycles, Bonfires on the Heath, Devil Got My Woman) plus an untitled new one: he didn't announce the title but it sounded like vintage Clientele to me.

Maclean fully reverbed up in an echoey church is a very reverby thing indeed.

Tim, Thursday, 15 September 2016 12:54 (one year ago) Permalink

We're a couple of covers too. Sid James and durruti column

(Not Sid James.)

koogs, Thursday, 15 September 2016 17:09 (one year ago) Permalink

Were. Bloody autocorrect.

koogs, Thursday, 15 September 2016 17:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Are there any other bands that exist that sound anything like the Clientele?

Evan, Thursday, 15 September 2016 17:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Legit question

Evan, Thursday, 15 September 2016 17:55 (one year ago) Permalink

I think maybe there's a thread for that? Or it's discussed upthread.

Recently I've gotten a similar vibe from deerhunter's fading frontier

But the short answer is no nothing

niels, Thursday, 15 September 2016 18:24 (one year ago) Permalink

There's just nothing quite as sophisticated and tuneful. Melodic indie rock, even the more sonically consistent bands in that category like Real Estate don't seem to have the effortless complexity and even-handedness Clientele has. Everyone else is "trying" in different ways and Clientele never had to in the first place. Their music goes well with similar things in other categories, like charming old houses and pretty gardens, things that are undeniable.

Evan, Thursday, 15 September 2016 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Which Durutti Column song, koogs?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2016 20:33 (one year ago) Permalink

i was going to say Real Estate but their thing is a little different.

nomar, Thursday, 15 September 2016 20:50 (one year ago) Permalink

> Which Durutti Column song, koogs?

Is there more than one? The guitary one.

koogs, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:11 (one year ago) Permalink

(I did recognise it but am terrible with names)

koogs, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:12 (one year ago) Permalink

well, it was either the missing boy or the guitary one.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:13 (one year ago) Permalink

(Devil Got My Woman by Skip James was the other cover btw)

Tim, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:13 (one year ago) Permalink

wow, i'd love to hear Alasdair's interpretation of that one!
my band has a song I wrote as a kinda clientele inspired thing, but i'm not sure if it actually comes across that way.

tylerw, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:19 (one year ago) Permalink

DGMW was on the flip of one of the strange Geometry singles iirc.

The Swedish band Cocoanut Groove had a bit of a Clientele thing going on for a while.

Tim, Thursday, 15 September 2016 21:26 (one year ago) Permalink

wow, i'd love to hear Alasdair's interpretation of that one!

There's a link to mp3s of a couple versions here that still work.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:51 (one year ago) Permalink

oh nice, thanks!

tylerw, Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:55 (one year ago) Permalink

kinda jansch-y

tylerw, Thursday, 15 September 2016 22:56 (one year ago) Permalink

I like the dreamy b-side version, but the KEXP one has its appeal too

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 15 September 2016 23:05 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

reminder: alasdair's playing as part of daylight music at the union chapel tomorrow. starts at 12.

http://store.unionchapel.org.uk/about/events/5-nov-16-daylight-music-237-union-chapel/

koogs, Friday, 4 November 2016 16:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

New album and new song out, which sounds autumnally awesome to me!

http://pitchfork.com/news/the-clientele-announce-first-new-album-in-7-years-share-new-song-listen/?mbid=homepage-more-latest-and-video

BrianEmo, Thursday, 15 June 2017 16:48 (four months ago) Permalink

aaaaawesome!

niels, Thursday, 15 June 2017 19:46 (four months ago) Permalink

That is very exciting news. Love the title and the artwork.

kitchen person, Thursday, 15 June 2017 19:51 (four months ago) Permalink

fantastic... hope there is a North American tour with the new album

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 June 2017 20:04 (four months ago) Permalink

edit, guess I should have clicked through to the Merge website. Very excited to see that they're coming to the west coast in the fall.

that's not my post, Thursday, 15 June 2017 20:15 (four months ago) Permalink

niiiiiice, TO show on Halloween!

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 June 2017 20:18 (four months ago) Permalink

album's very good, i <3 "everyone you meet"

sean gramophone, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:32 (four months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Has there been any discussion of the new album since it came out? I like it overall, though even after many listens I'm still having distinguishing songs from each other.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 29 September 2017 11:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Discussion here:

The Clientele - Best Band Since The Smiths

early rejecter, Friday, 29 September 2017 11:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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