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I just got hold of "bird's Lament" the source of the Sample on Mr Scruff's "Get a Move On" (i say sample but for fucks suck he's just ripped the man off bigstyle). It's joyous and beautiful.

tell me more Moondog i should get.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

he was a hep cat

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I like "Coffee Beans"!

adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:35 (fifteen years ago) link

MOONDOG 1 & 2 are one one cd. That's where I'd start.
There's also the earier Moondog and More Moondog. beatnik-ish.

Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

>MOONDOG 1 & 2 are on one cd.

I'd start here too

I like Moondog in Europe, beautiful organ solos

Haven't heard six pax for a sax.

Elpmas is his sampling record produced by andi toma -- but he uses the instrument as a sequencer driving xylophone & marimba textures (because those are what most samplers can realistically represent). The sequences are nice syncopations but as this disc is normally a thirty dollar import I wouldn't start there.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

i can't find coffee beans! but i am currently enjoying "be a hobo"

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

(Jon L), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link

sorry to echo you there, jed

(Jon L), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i just heard his speaking voiceat the beginning of a track called "from one to nine" and think it must be him speaking at the beginning of money mark's "Insects are all around us" - the monologue about the crickets? is it him?

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost - echo away!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I second all the above, also BRACELLI: cellos round and round, while his daughter dances barefoot on a framedrum(I think it's her; maybe she's got the "BRA" too) Grendal and Beowulf, down at the old mead hall!

don, Thursday, 4 November 2004 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I just got my first Moondog album, the "six pax for a sax" one. Its good and playful, sounds like warm syrup...and I don't really favour the saxamafone. I can't wait to hear 1&2!

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I've got "Moondog in Europe", it's pretty dull to be honest

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

depending on when that first posted pic is from that could be my friend's wife, she used to be moondog's pianist. i'll e-mail him to see if he can identify her.

hwoever i have never actually heard anything y moondog, will also ask for recs.

H (Heruy), Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

so. not the Westworld spinoff then .. or wasn't that Moondogg ?

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

he sued belgian moondog jr so they had to change their name. they picked zita swoon.

jesus nathalie (nathalie), Thursday, 4 November 2004 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

The pax for a sax one is the only one I have, but I love it. (one of the few things I've driven directly to the record store and bought after hearing it on the radio) I've been meaning to explore him a little more.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 4 November 2004 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah SAX PACK and the ones on Prestige are jazzier; the Sony/Columbia MOONDOG/MOONDOG 2 collection and BRACELLI are his 13th Century groove (but also kinda jazzy; good vocals and lyrics too. I can see him as n influence on Talking Heads, song-writing-wise, and on Tom Ze, for that matter) He proclaimed that Western music reached its harmonic apex in the the 13th(with improvisation, or the tightly loose feeling we associate with that, being another traditional aspect in Europe as well as Africa).

don, Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Moondog thought of himself as an extremely reactionary classical composer. Big Brother and the Holding Company's version of his "All Is Lonliness" shouldn't be forgotten, either.

I met him once -- on the street in New York City, 32 years ago. He wore the same type of outrageous Viking-type costume you see on the cover of the Columbia albums. A blind man on the corner with only a huge spear to protect himself. The NYC sidewalks would get too tough for that routine very soon after that. He had no homemade cassettes of his music that day, but he was selling poems. "Put whatever you want in the cup and take a few," he said. We gave a few dollars and took two or three of the whimsical, sub-Beefheartian verses from his stack. Illustrated with odd little pencil drawings of birdies and beasties. I've been unable to find them for years. Really too bad.

Dock Miles (Dock Miles), Thursday, 4 November 2004 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...
Man, this Honking Geese ep that got reissued a while back is extremely awesome. All 10 minutes of it!

Next to track down that Pastoral Suite/Surf Session thing...

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:04 (fourteen years ago) link

What about the Moondog and Story of Moondog comps (the ones with the orange and purple covers, respectively)? Any good? All I know Moondog-wise is the oft-cited influence on Stereolab and their ilk and the track on Dirty Diamonds 2 ("Voices of Spring").

Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:45 (fourteen years ago) link

hook a guy up with some soulseek moondog please

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm .. well those CDs are reissues of really old Prestige lps, not comps. whether the Prestige lps were comps of like 10"s and the like .. I'm not honestly sure. They are definitely worth getting. Pick up one and see what you think. I would get one of those before the Columbia stuff though. That stuff is nice, but it's a little more ... adulterated, I guess.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 19 September 2005 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Oh my god the new Honest Jon double LP/CD collection "The Viking Of 6th Avenue" is totally rocking my world. I've had 1 and 2 for years but these are so much more jazz-oriented and playful. This reissue is amazing! And it has almost no liner notes that directly talk about the tracks included... It says that side 3 is the original Moondog 10", but it has no information about the rest of the tracks. Can anyone point me to a more detailed breakdown of what exactly is going on with this wonderful album?

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:46 (fourteen years ago) link

I had the same exact reaction as sleeve. And I also would like to make the same exact request with regard to info about these tracks.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"Moondog"... Now that is a great Prefab Sprout song.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 09:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Here is the answer to our questions...

Takes a bit of research, but this site told me everything I wanted to know about the early recordings.

And the album continues to amaze me.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 06:08 (fourteen years ago) link

The reissues are selling for like a gazillion pounds, though. WTF.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 09:27 (fourteen years ago) link

this is quite a wonderful little disc, though i'm not a fan of non-booklet fold-out notes with shitty info on them. from whence does "Invocation" come?

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Invocation is on the "Moondog Big Band" album recorded with the London Saxophonic in 1995. All the Moondog albums I own are uniformly excellent. For the record, I've got :

Moondog (1956)
More Moondog / The Story Of Moondog (2 on 1 cd)
Moondog (1969) / Moondog 2 (2 on 1 cd)
In Europe
H'art Songs
Sax Pax For A Sax
Moondog Big Band

Can't go wrong with any of them! There's another compilation around at the moment too, called The German Years or something? The Honest Jon's comp looks like an excellent introduction anyway.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

that honest john's record is entirely where its at.

bb (bbrz), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

'69 Moondog was pivotal to springing me into modern classical and mouse on mars. remember coming across four copies of the Columbia one and buying them all as presents. this HJ is really making my year so far.

imbidimts, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

machines were mice and men were lions once upon a time/
but now that it's the opposite, it's twice upon a time!

Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 20:23 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just picked up the Honest Jon, by way of Astralwerks, compilation and it's really amazing. I heard of Moondog before but have never bothered listening to him. I don't know what took me so long.

Jeff K (jeff k), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 00:54 (thirteen years ago) link

yay! Enjoy.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Listening to "Down Is Up." Utter fucking genius.

Turangalila, Friday, 2 January 2009 18:01 (eleven years ago) link

I've always been leery of this person for some reason (I think the name just bugged me), but I recently heard a radio special about him (I forget what show it was on, but probably some sort of NPR syndicated thing) and I liked all the music I heard by him.

_Rockist__Scientist_, Friday, 2 January 2009 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

It's always wise to be leery of blind street musicians--just trying to rip you off.

ian, Friday, 2 January 2009 22:06 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

"the witch of endor" is so so good. listening to this guy in conjunction with Univers Zero and wishing i could play the cello

kamerad, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 14:01 (ten years ago) link

a bunch of his LPs have been reissued (on vinyl that is) recently. i have never heard anything by him that is anything less than great.

amateurist, Thursday, 20 August 2009 03:02 (ten years ago) link

Wfmu DJ Irwin did a great tribute show to Moondog a couple years ago. real audio only, but it is worth it for biographical information provided by his guest, Robert Scotto author of "Moondog, The Viking of 6th Avenue"

dsb, Thursday, 20 August 2009 03:39 (ten years ago) link

i saw those reissues. there's the one with the nice warhol cover. but it looks a little shiny.

italo disco calvino (schlump), Thursday, 20 August 2009 18:48 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

listening to moondog for the first time- sax pax for a sax

i am so in love with this, what wonderful music

a little tiny crunk person (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 22:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah, few things make me happier than listening to moondog

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:27 (seven years ago) link

a joyful noise

jed_, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 23:45 (seven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Discovered Moondog the other day. Am in love with this.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:31 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

happy birthday!

meisenfek, Saturday, 26 May 2012 10:30 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

"I began using Moondog as a pen name in 1947, in honor of a dog I had in Hurley, who used to howl at the moon more than any dog I knew of."

meisenfek, Monday, 26 May 2014 05:29 (five years ago) link

Sax Pax For a Sax needs some sort of re release. It's maybe the most beautiful record I know.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Monday, 26 May 2014 09:41 (five years ago) link

I love Moondog. Didn't Donald Barthelme also have a story which referenced Moondog?

Hinklepicker, Monday, 26 May 2014 10:52 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Anyone tried out the new Hari Kunru 'interactive' prose essay on Moondog?

Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Monday, 16 June 2014 07:29 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

this song is mesmerizingly repetitive. dude had a nice voice

Treeship, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 04:03 (three years ago) link

centennial's comin up

Treeship, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 04:08 (three years ago) link

Moondog fucking rules

Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 04:09 (three years ago) link

Don't know if I've posted this before but...
... is just beautiful.

Wish they'd re-release Sax Pax for a Pax soon.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 09:36 (three years ago) link

Moondog fucking rules

he does, but if you read the biography (which has lots of problems, i admit), he seems like less than an entirely admirable figure.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 12:12 (three years ago) link

i mean, yeah, who isn't? but i hope that documentary i contributed to doesn't gloss over some of the less attractive stuff.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

yeah he was sort of a nazi, right?

Treeship, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:15 (three years ago) link

like he believed the whole burzum thing about how "christianity" had ruined society, which needed to be rejuvenated by a return to our pagan roots.

i mean, it's sort of to be expected by someone who dressed like a viking. i still admire his independence, as an artist and a person. apparently his more problematic views didn't really affect how he treated people in real life too much.

Treeship, Thursday, 28 April 2016 04:17 (three years ago) link

does the biography touch on his family life? his relationships with his wives and children were unstable at best, which is unsurprising given his lifestyle:

His desire to rework on his sung canons emerged in April 1971, when he found himself reacquainted with his ex-wife Suzuko and their daughter June. He had been estranged from them for ten years, and June was now a teenager with a magnificent voice. Moondog 2, Round the World of Sound, is dedicated to her, and features the father reunited with his daughter singing together twenty-five of his first madrigals.

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 28 April 2016 05:16 (three years ago) link

JimiG541 year ago (edited)
As a teen I dated his daughter June, who was also in my high school home room class. She was quiet, pretty, and trippy, speaking poetically at times out of the blue. Her and her mom, who was his musical stenographer for years, lived in the same apartment building as he at the time (by Columbia University) but avoided him. Once we got to the elevator just as the door closed and saw his helmeted visage in the little window going up. I sometimes sat on the steps listening to him or sharing a quick chat with him at 666 6th Ave. where he "held court" as a street performer selling his LPs and hand made instruments. June and her mom were estranged from him for some years, but after an afternoon in Central Park talking about his invitation to record on what was to become this album, she decided to go ahead and sing and play on it. I'm glad she followed my advice. Oh, and "All is Loneliness" was recorded by Janis Joplin and Big Brother on their first LP...:-)

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 28 April 2016 05:18 (three years ago) link

Anyone tried out the new Hari Kunru 'interactive' prose essay on Moondog?

Read this earlier this week in about 30 minutes (£2 as kindle download, without the interactive elements). It's a nice short essay, and enjoyed it a lot - but didn't learn anything about Moondog that I didn't already know.

Half-baked profundities. Self-referential smirkiness (Bob Six), Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

Do like that Moondog 2 lp. Reminded me of Bagpuss's mice on the mouse organ.
I have it on a BGO 2fer.

I think 1st thing by him I heard was Stomping Ground on some hippy era label sampler.

BBHC's cover of All Is Loneliness might be better live. The 1st lp is pretty muted. I know it's on the Janis Joplin live compi from the 70s. Think it may be on at least 1 of the BBHC live lps that came out over the last couple of decades.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:32 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

meisenfek, Thursday, 26 May 2016 15:06 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

'Please, take care of my music' (Moondog)

Commemorating the 20th anniversary of Louis T. Hardin's death.

Moondog zum 20. Todestag
(SWR2 Radio feature in german language, today at 15:05 CEST UTC+2)

meisenfek, Sunday, 8 September 2019 08:52 (five months ago) link

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