wozard of iz, at first i thought was a bit silly, but the 2nd half of the record is just amazing, particularly i've been over the rainbow, and big sur, hauntingly beautiful, sort of precious sounding
plantasia i also like a lot, its very understated and i guess a quiet way to go out, anticlimactic in a way, but i find myself playing it a lot
what happened to garson after plantasia?
what else would you recommend by other artists, similar to this?
and what are all those zodiac records like, havent heard any of those?
and, it is just a rumour that that is nancy sinatra on wozard of iz, isnt it?
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
you might wanna look into the works of bruce haack if you haven't already.
― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link
He also did a occult-themed album called Atatarxia in '75 that I've been trying to download for my CDR GO! thing.
He wrote "Our Day Will Come," too.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
also check out Dick Hyman and Tonto's Expanding Headband. the latter played moog on all sorts of 70s pop records (stevie wonder & todd rundgren)
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Garson's Black Mass album (as Lucifer) is evil brilliance. It's a serious influence on Alec Empire's freakier solo LPs and Nic Endo's excellent Cold Metal Perfection.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.art-ificial.com/soularfone/images/a_psych04.jpg
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
and non krauts: Wendy/walter Carlos, Jean Michel Jarre, Tomita, etc
― JaXoN (JasonD), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link
also search: Emil Richards' Stones New Sound Element. That's the one early Moog record that transcends all kitsch, it's truly bizarre, completely fucked masterpiece. Search the mono mix, which places the Moog lead louder in the mix than the stereo version.
Paul Beaver was the Moog player on many of these records (including Cosmic Sounds).
― (Jon L), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― (Jon L), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Sunday, 31 October 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
rest of the lp isnt as good, i think
― *@*.* (gareth), Thursday, 4 November 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Aargh. Of all of the acts mentioned above, T.O.N.T.O. were the least susceptible to the malign virus of psychedelia - a musical movement which held that any pretentious, half-assed nonsense you concocted in the studio was worthy of release, as long as the final mix had been fed through a flanger.Of all of the acts mentioned above, T.O.N.T.O. were by far the most consistently melodic, and their compositions were all carefully constructed and arranged. In other words, they wrote some really nice tunes. If you stuck some modern beats under It's About Time, you could easily imagine you were listening to an Orbital album. By contrast, records by the likes of Garson are instantly identifiable as artifacts of a bygone era, and would (fairly or not) be derided as "hippy rubbish" by 99% of modern listeners.That said, I do have a soft spot for the cherishably loony Bruce Haack, who had a robot singing the lead vocal on his songs four years before Autobahn, and who was building his own electronic instruments twenty years before the Aphex Twin. (The interested but uninitiated are directed to 1979's Electric Lucifer: Book II, a much less self-conciously avant garde effort than its 1970 precursor, and much the better listen for it.)
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
it sounds like a) you don't like the term 'psychedelia', and b) i think you like Tonto. so from this i gather that c) a band you like can't be psychedelic? i mean what the fuck kind of logic is this? and can psychedelic music not be melodic.
the one record i have (i forget the title because i'm at work right now - and the gatefold opens up to that image i posted up thread) is completely, over the top psychedelic.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link
I have no opinion on the term "psychedelia". It's a word, that's all.
>from this i gather that a band you like can't be psychedelic?
No, and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Is English not your first language?
> mean what the fuck kind of logic is this?
Your logic, not mine, so you explain.
>can psychedelic music not be melodic
Again, I never said it couldn't be.
>the one record i have is completely, over the top psychedelic.
No it isn't. They made two records, and neither are what an informed listener would term "psychedelic".
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link
come on dude, you wrote this, not me
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
another reason why they are good and not psychedlic
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link
a musical movement which held that any pretentious, half-assed nonsense you concocted in the studio was worthy of release, as long as the final mix had been fed through a flanger.
uh, i'm just feeding back what you wrote
1. Most (although not all) of the records that fall in to the genre known as "psychedelic" are really terrible.2. In any case, T.O.N.T.O.'s music can not be described as "psychedelic" (even if the sleeve art can).
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 November 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Thursday, 4 November 2004 23:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 01:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 5 November 2004 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Which is exactly why we love it - except the above is a more accurate description of Krautrock... which we love even more
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 12:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, I quite like much of Karoli's contribution to Can. When I refer to "half-assed psychedelia", I'm talking about dire poetry by Tolkien obsessives, interminable feedback experiments, and recordings of acid casualties groaning wordlessly into echo machines while accomplices pluck at untuned sitars. It's everybody else's prerogative to love that kind of stuff, just as it is mine to describe it as "terrible". All I originally came here to say was that I strongly disagreed with the characterisation of T.O.N.T.O. as "psychedelic music".
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Those all sound good to me
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link
That's okay. Am I allowed to say they don't sound good to me?
― Palomino (Palomino), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Soon Over Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link
you're right, i should be cool like you and make unsupportable arguments about music i have very little knowledge of. and i'm not the one who thinks he's being pithy or intelligent here.
[...]shut up.
no.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 November 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stringent Stepper (Stringent), Thursday, 10 February 2005 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
what is it like? when is it from?
― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 February 2005 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link
i put other stuff on slsk today
― chartonlido (gareth), Saturday, 26 February 2005 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― LaToya JaXoN (JasonD), Sunday, 27 February 2005 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― charlton lido (gareth), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― charleston charge (chaki), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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― charleston charge (chaki), Sunday, 13 March 2005 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 13 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I bought a copy of the Lord of the ringts record for three bucks last year. Weird fun meandering psych. It totally isn't funky tho, it is more like proggy synth folk than anything really propulsive. I saw the cover, checked the copyright date, and read the words "moogs and organs" and I was sold. It turned out to be a decent record.
It is really odd that this thread came up today. I have a huge clutch of cassette tapes in the console of my car. I have not touched any of them in more than 18 months. I went through them last night and found a tape with nothing on it. I had no idea what it was, so I threw it in on the way home from the club for the hell of it. It was a copy of Lucifer Black Mass that a friend had made for me about two years ago that I had completely forgotten about. It was a pleasant suprise to hear that album coming out of the speakers after a really good night at the club.
― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Friday, 13 May 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/h/hyman_dick~_moongasja_101b.jpg
i listened to the Mort Garson track you posted to the soft pop thread and it wasn't really what i was expecting. way more harmonized vocals than i expected. really nice
― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Friday, 24 June 2005 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link
i saw it on a wall yesterday for 25$. i have garson's Electric Hair Pieces and one of the Zodiac records, but don't really care for either of them. too much kitchy, googly moog.
milton, i know you said you liked it, but you also said you liked the Emil Richards "Stones" record which i also felt was too silly (the wife asks, "why the fuck are you listening to this Disneyland Electric Light Parade music?")
― plain ol' jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 28 July 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
and I uh also kinda _like_ “Main Street Electrical Parade” especially the original pre-Disney version -- don't you like Perrey & Kingsley?
"Ataraxia" is definitely kitsch for me, lots of googly silly jazzy fills & straightforward moog sounds. don't pay $25, I've got a cdr you can rip
― milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 28 July 2005 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
you know, maybe i just don't like pre-psychedelic moogy synthy stuff?
pulled out my Lothar & The Hand People cd the other day and giggled a bunch. some great tracks on there, but tons of crap.
― plain ol' jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 28 July 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
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― SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Friday, 29 July 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― trond berg, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 07:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I doubt it, though I can see why you'd speculate.
That self-titled Head LP by Raicevic on Buddah is crucial.
― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Saturday, 26 August 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:28 (seventeen years ago) link
i have this 7-inch picture disc! the electric light parade music. it's awesome. great moog action. and the picture disc itself is heavenly looking. one of my favorite disney records.
― scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 27 August 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Composer Mort Garson dies at 83 http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117978685.html?categoryid=16&cs=1
― jaxon, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Love his records. RIP.
― chaki, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't know he'd gone. His records are pieces of wonder
I still haven't heard 'Didn't You Hear' ,or Madagascar though
― Hello Everyone!, Sunday, 27 April 2008 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35PzjP4wgWs
Didn't You Hear?
― Hello Everyone!, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I didn't know either. RIP.
It might not be cool or suitably appreciative of the man's diverse talent to single out the big weepy song, but Big Sur from the Wozard of Iz turns my nervous system inside out every time.
― a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 11:02 (fifteen years ago) link
This is some great post-Exorcist shit right here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ur4JFH-rJM
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 17 June 2010 01:50 (thirteen years ago) link
That self-titled Head LP by Raicevic on Buddah is crucial.― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal)
Yes it is, and we have a reissue now.https://www.discogs.com/107-34-8933-Numbers/master/544949
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umiE2B8ODYI
― Wes Brodicus, Tuesday, 24 April 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
https://www.bbg.org/visit/event/plantasiajust came from this; was fun to listen to the album nice and crisp while walking inside a massive greenhouse.Sacred Bones is aiming to release the complete Garson catalogue over the next few years; they're working with his family so it sounds like it might even happen!https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/collections/frontpage/products/sbr3030-mort-garson-mother-earths-plantasia
BK Botanic Garden had Garson's original moog on displayhttp://i.imgur.com/rSlyPJl.jpg
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
Ugggghhhh wish I knew about this
― Evan, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
Been thinking his stuff badly needs re-issuing.
― Orpheus Knutt (Tom D.), Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
Imminent Plantasia reissue here: https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/mother-earths-plantasia
― screator, Friday, 21 June 2019 00:54 (four years ago) link
I didn't really know much about this guy until hearing a few albums of his at work in the last year. We got the reissue of Plantasia in and I ended up picking it up. I can feel this album is going to be my new obsession.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 23 June 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link
Your wish is Sacred Bones's command:
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/didnt-you-hear
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/music-from-patch-cord-productions
This second one appears to be unreleased/little hard 70s recordings, the first is a straight up reissue of an obscure soundtrack "originally available only in the lobby of the theater at screenings of the movie in Seattle" per the liners.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link
Little heard not little hard but maybe both.
Also, apparently vinyl-only (maybe?) runs of Lucifer's Black Mass and Ataraxia's The Unexplained, though maybe other services/labels are handling digital.
https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr3033-lucifer-black-mass
https://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/sbr3034-ataraxia-the-unexplained
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
looks like these will be on spotify too!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
oh man, this alternate take of "African Violet" - always one of my fave Garson tracks - is really everythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrnfsbpTH4
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
btw, this is prob worth buyinghttps://www.sacredbonesrecords.com/products/music-from-patch-cord-productions-t-shirt
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
Hadn't seen this thread before---speaking of Bernie Krause, he dispenses just enough shadowy particles all around ill wind guitar on The Link Wray Rumble, US issue Polydor – PD 6025: one of my all-time faves, never on legit CD, although some of it was reissued on the Link comp Guitar Preacher, and maybe all of it could be a YouTube playlist from time to time (found some in his remarkable archive.org stash too). Krause's moments def. quality over quantity.
― dow, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
Oh my god, this track is *incredible*. Breaking my heart at the moment, in the best way. Feels almost like if Mort Garson had collaborated with Paul Williams (if Paul Williams were a better singer).
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/track/didnt-you-hear
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 09:06 (three years ago) link
brewdog advert
― conrad, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link
New archival release!
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/journey-to-the-moon-and-beyond
And get this!
The crown jewel of the set is no doubt Garson’s soundtrack to the live broadcast of the 1969 Apollo 11 moon landing, as first heard on CBS News. That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for Moogkind. But for decades, this audio was presumed lost, the only trace of it appearing to be from an old YouTube clip. Thankfully, diligent audio archivist Andy Zax came across a copy of the master tape while going through the massive Rod McKuen archive. So now we get to hear it in all its glory. Across six minutes, Garson conjures broad fantasias, whirring mooncraft sounds, zero-gravity squelches, and twinkling études. It showcases Mort’s many moods: sweet, exploratory, whimsical, a little bit corny, weaving it all together in a glorious whole.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 June 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
I...did not expect this:
https://mortgarson.bandcamp.com/album/disco-ufo
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:08 (three weeks ago) link