Bronski Beat-Smalltown Boy

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What's the ILM verdict on this?

Heard it on the radio at the weekend and was struck by how similar to something off Kittenz and Thee Glitz it is!

I might play it tonight, can I get away with it??? obviously without appearing gay is a key issue. that part when the beat comes in=dancefloor madness.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

lovely lovely pop

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

it seems timeless.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously I'd heard it before hearing it on the radio.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

ppl love it! --> C or D "Smalltown Boy"

g--ff (gcannon), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

great song. i would think it may be a bit too melancholic for dancefloors though. the video was pretty good too.

Michael B, Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

play the komatrohn version!

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:42 (sixteen years ago) link

you should definitely play it Ronan (either the original or the cover)

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously without appearing gay is a key issue

!

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 28 October 2004 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Dublin nightclubs on a Thursday can be fiercely conservative.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

you'd better throw in 'Kissing With Confidence' as well then

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Thursday, 28 October 2004 16:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I think I'd go for "Why?" - which is even more melodramatic - but yeah, why the hell not?

noodle vague (noodle vague), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

it is amazing and slocki is otm. you can probably d/l the komatrohn version from his website.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

seriously, ronan, komatrohn's version is great. (as is the original, btw.)

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm assuming we're all talking about the 9 minute 12" mix, of course.

For maximum Glitz action play it next to the 9 minute 12" mix of The Flirt's "Passion", another great looong build before the drums kick.

Brian Miller (Brian Miller), Thursday, 28 October 2004 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

yes the full length version, indeed!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:06 (sixteen years ago) link

classic, imo. i say same goes for most of Age of Consent

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

obviously without appearing gay is a key issue

no. if you play this, you are a fag. actually, listening to it makes you gay, too.

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:15 (sixteen years ago) link

shit. is there a cure????

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"run away run away run away..."

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link

shit. is there a cure????

No, it's Madness this week!

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

being gay, however, is a great way to attract chicks.

Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Surely we've had a thread about this, no?

In any case, it's an absolute crystaline gem of a song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmmm....is saying "crystaline gem" like saying "luminous glow" and/or "alien outworlder"?

Apologies. What I mean to say is that it's a perfect pop song.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

An absolute classic, regardless of which way you happen to swing.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 28 October 2004 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Classic, however the accompanying video is awful.

papa november (papa november), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, the video's a bit rough.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

A 2 cent job by the looks.

papa november (papa november), Thursday, 28 October 2004 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Haha, jimmy somerville looks like a dwarf in that video.

Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 29 October 2004 01:56 (sixteen years ago) link

'Smalltown Boy' is great... my trouble is that I keep confusing it with 'Disenchanted' by the Communards, which to my ears is just that bit better.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 29 October 2004 02:14 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I've just heard this song thanks to the movie Edge of Seventeen, and while I love it, it (possibly due to associations with the movie) gives me creepy/unsettling/depressing vibes, like a bad drag queen performance.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 02:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Heh -- for me the song grew more poignant in the totally conventional manner in which it's used in Edge of Seventeen!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 02:16 (thirteen years ago) link

The video for the song always deeply unsettled me, strangely enough, and I could never really work out why beyond a great sense of bleakness.

Trayce, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 02:17 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

lol @ Daft Punk using this in Alive 2007

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 9 March 2008 23:27 (twelve years ago) link

This was one of the first songs I heard on college radio.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

dunno why but i've not stopped listening to this for the past couple days. even picked up the 12. the long vocal intro is so great, and the moment the beat comes in .... drama

jaime, Monday, 10 March 2008 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

Yea, 'tis good.

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 07:14 (twelve years ago) link

It's also the first single from Atrocity's latest coverfest

zaxxon25, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

Also, there's a nice cover by Herman Dune:

http://www.archive.org/details/SmalltownBoy-AndreHermanDne

jsimp, Monday, 10 March 2008 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

And a risible one by Paradise Lost:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2iASJMuUkM

The original is a yearning pop masterpiece. I love the way it dips into half-time at the start of the first verse.

chap, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

weird, this song is following me around. i was invited to go see jose gonzalez play and he closed with a cover of it.

jaime, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think I might just go out and buy the 12" in the next few days, this song is just, ahhhhhhhhhh.

mehlt, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 02:10 (twelve years ago) link

12 inch mix is amazing. beat doesn't come in till after a 3 minute vocal intro.

jaime, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

Just got the 12" of this today after deciding a year ago that I had to. Pretty much perfect.

matt2, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:26 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, God, what a song to stretch out over 9 minutes. Incidentally, this thread got me riled up, so I made a short, but quite unusually aggressive mix which opened with this. Put Len Faki - Die Rumpelkammer on top of it for like 5 minutes, worked out not half bad actually.

mehlt, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7-q1WRaKNg

Bimble, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

1493 comments to that youtube video. youtube is the new ilx.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

I agree 100%. My musical idols are Marc Almond and Jimmy Somerville. I love them for their music. Marc is my all-time hero, but I hate the 'Mincing' and camp side of him; but I am straight. My kids can't understand how I idolise him because I moan about gays who talk as Marc does. I am a red-blooded male and I can't watch men kissing each other. It turns my stomach. But I don't dislike gays-I just wish there wasn't that camp side. Wish I had a magic wand to rid the world of bias.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:00 (twelve years ago) link

was that comment left by tobias funke?

stevie, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

God, those comments are horrible. I read some back in fall or so, I remember one guy complaining how he grew up loving this song, and couldn't bear to find out what it was about it, and he basically blamed his homosexuality for ruined his favourite song.

mehlt, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

I blame whites for ruining Gloria Estefan.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 20:01 (twelve years ago) link

*blamed Marc's homosexuality for ruining his favourite song.

I remember hearing a few weeks ago from my friend, whom I told about the meaning of this song, who subsequently discovered my other friend and his almost comically bigoted father who apparently love this song as well, and apparently refused to believe the homosexual undertones about it.

mehlt, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 23:51 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

just listened to this a few times after half-jokingly mentioning it on the 2010 trax poll thread. such an incredible song, gorgeous & spare, both overwhelmingly exultant and absolutely crushing. on the short list of my all-time favorite songs (when i think to include it). i remember catching part of it for the first time on MTV sometime in 1984 and having no idea what it might be, missing for some reason the title/artist credits and spending weeks afterward obsessing, describing it to my friends, trying to figure out what it might be. it left a mark. perfect in every way.

12" extended version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFAbB-qs4iU

acoustic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0xQ3WgBU1c&feature=related

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:03 (ten years ago) link

^ not recommending the rather schmaltzy acoustic version, but there it is.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Monday, 24 January 2011 21:04 (ten years ago) link

I actually really love the acoustic version.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 24 January 2011 22:11 (ten years ago) link

Wd probably pick the 12inch version of "Why" for maximum dancefloor mayhem

Cars and Freedom (Noodle Vague), Monday, 24 January 2011 22:36 (ten years ago) link

pvmic

I think I'd go for "Why?" - which is even more melodramatic - but yeah, why the hell not?

― noodle vague, Friday, 29 October 2004 03:08 (6 years ago)

basically just a 2/47 freak out (sic), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:52 (ten years ago) link

weirdly i reffed this on ilx today also, in the daily mail thread

zvookster, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:58 (ten years ago) link

the b-side to this record is a lost balearic classic

missingNO, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:53 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCZPBL7X6S8

missingNO, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:57 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DWWE3cjgg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 3 November 2013 01:23 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

g'damn i just came to post that. instead i'll bump.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 22 November 2013 21:52 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

RIP Larry Steinbachek.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Friday, 13 January 2017 05:44 (four years ago) link

A shame!

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-38597071

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 January 2017 14:49 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

apart from them recording some of the great all-time records i keep obsessing over how great this video is and how fucking ground-breaking at the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88sARuFu-tc

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 10:15 (two weeks ago) link

bullshit straight boy indulgence but that vid makes me cry every time i watch it

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 10:19 (two weeks ago) link

also the 80s, you had to be there

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 10:20 (two weeks ago) link

Exceptional video. Just read the start of this thread, yikes.

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 9 January 2021 10:45 (two weeks ago) link

2005 ILX wtf is wrong with you.

Song / vid all-time of course.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 9 January 2021 11:20 (two weeks ago) link

i remember hearing Peter Powell say "this is the most important record of the year" and i was lol Peter Powell lol important but he wasn't wrong and i don't remember seeing the video at the time but it's fucking brilliant

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 11:46 (two weeks ago) link

Video is classic, even the little breakfast sequence is so full of mood and nuance

kites aren't fun (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2021 11:59 (two weeks ago) link

yep

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:03 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DWWE3cjgg

this song reminds me of going to the Catholic Youth Activity Group disco at the St Pats Irish centre on a Thursday night and the smell of strongbow cider and dry ice, The Communards cover of Don't Leave Me This Way was another classic of that era. He seems like good people does Jimmy Somerville.

calzino, Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:06 (two weeks ago) link

The not-so-hidden look of scorn on the old bloke's face! xp

kites aren't fun (NickB), Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:07 (two weeks ago) link

Jimmy seems like definitely good people and i enjoy listening to Richard on Radio 4 of a saturday morning, but i think i've said here or somewhere the Bronskis are my favourite, "Hard Rain" is top 10 records ever

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 January 2021 12:09 (two weeks ago) link

Larry Steinbachek was very cute. He died a few years ago at 56, sadly.

10percent Discocunt (jed_), Saturday, 9 January 2021 13:32 (two weeks ago) link


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