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Tell me about this band!!

I've gotten my hands on a copy of 'The Host of Seraphim' and it is currently blowing my mind as I type. Absolutely beautiful.

So does anyone know anything about them? Classic? Dud? I'm leaning towards C...

karmaceutical (karmaceutical), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link

by the way, you can find it, and other awesome tunes here - http://webjay.org/by/pilgerowski/coldsongsforasub-tropicalguy

karmaceutical (karmaceutical), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

he used to be in the scavengers and they did a song called 'true love' that totally pre-dated dookie.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 17 October 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I pull out their greatest hits type comp, A Passage In Time from time to time. It's pretty, but sometimes oh so overwrought.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 17 October 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"aion" is oft cited as their peak. "the carnival is over" is my favourite track of theirs but admittedly i've heard only the album from whence it came and the aforementioned "hits" comp.

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Sunday, 17 October 2004 04:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure there's been a thread about them here, but CLASSIC!

Aion is wonderful, yes (the perfect soundtrack to walking around the Cloisters on a chilly Autumn afternoon), but there are some truly amazing moments on Into the Labywrinth as well (notably the amazing "Yulunga (Spirit Dance)" and "The Ubiquotous Mr. Lovegrove"). I'm not as familiar with their earlier stuff. I first heard them as participants in This Mortal Coil on It'll End in Tears. I'd say the finest introduction to their music might actually be their live album, Toward the Within, which catches them in all their howling, dulcimer-thwacking glory.

And despite their early sartorial style and misleading name (it actually refers to a drum, not a candaver), DCD should never be lumped in with the Goths. If anything they stray closer to "world music" and....gulp..."new age" than anything else.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 17 October 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Surely it's mostly goths who listen to them though, at least in my experience. Anyway, I agree with Alex, Toward the Within is the perfect DCD album.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 17 October 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Definitely CLASSIC, and I'd say their best album is the one where "Host Of Seraphim" comes from, The Serpent's Egg, which I strongly recommend. Strangely, I always found A Passage In Time a little unsatisfying, probably because it doesn't include anything from the first album and they didn't necessarily chose the tracks I would've. Still, a nice overview for the novice but I'd say get all the albums, they're all worth it (except maybe the last one).

Seb (Seb), Sunday, 17 October 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

totally classic, I was listening to The Serpent's Egg while driving around last night in the rain. It's a perfect album, basically.

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 17 October 2004 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

four years pass...

what is the best dead can dance record, thank you

cutty, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

after finally hearing them all i decided the self titled one was the best

Lemonade In Hammocks (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

this is true. doesn't hurt if you get the version with the garden of the arcane delights tracks, either.

what we do is secrete (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"doesn't hurt" being a huge understatement...

Glad you ended up liking the first one so much Jim!! :) I hesitate to recommend that one to newbies only because the production sound is so cluttered/dense. I think "Within The Realm of A Dying Sun" will always be my fave, but I believe we've already done an album poll for them haven't we? Yep, we have.

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

bimble, which will i like the most? ;)

cutty, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish I knew, Cutty, but thanks for asking. ;) Maybe you could look the band up on You Tube first and go about it that way? I trust you understand that on any given DCD album, there are songs sung by the lady and songs sung by the dude, and they give a different vibe. (By the way, incase there is any remaining doubt, I DO love you for that Cocteau Twins clip you posted that I jizzed over. In fact, it encouraged some soul from Ohio to post some really obscure music to my blog. Can't argue with that.)

With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

DEAD CAN DANCE NEW ALBUM AND TOUR FOR 2012

Unbelievably great news!

ODD FURRY WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL PLEASE!!!! (diamonddave85), Monday, 16 May 2011 00:14 (twelve years ago) link

!!!!!!!

Not exactly new news though, was first announced over a year ago and has already been mentioned on other DCD/Perry threads.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

Wow! Time to start setting aside some cash for plane tickets to go see them play!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

Not exactly new news though, was first announced over a year ago and has already been mentioned on other DCD/Perry threads.

yr right, how could anybody have forgotten the maelstrom of press that attended "possible Dead Can Dance reunion in the future at some point" rumors

yr right, how could anybody have forgotten the maelstrom of press that attended "possible Dead Can Dance reunion in the future at some point" rumors

they weren't rumours, Perry made an official announcement in March 2010 about a new DCD album and tour in 2012

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

i found an old CD of Dead Can Dance...into the labrynth, it was my wifes and i never really listened to them

but it's kind of amazing how their style really became so influential in movie and video game music

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

like esp the sort of "world music" female vox and percussion in a dramatic setting, like if you are spelunking tomb or something

i'm a fucking walking pair of Docs (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Flashback to goth/rivethead/incipient programmers in the early 1990s mainlining those CDs as they pull all night sessions with their SLIP connections and I think the explanation is clear.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

but it's kind of amazing how their style really became so influential in movie and video game music

yeah this is otm

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link

think it was Baraka that really sealed their position in this field, it was very influential at the time

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

new album is good news as long as it's better than fucking Spiritchaser

much love for DCD otherwise!

ilxor running, w/ laptop in hand, checking ILX as he sprints (ilxor), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:02 (twelve years ago) link

what a great band

ODD FURRY WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL PLEASE!!!! (diamonddave85), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

lisa gerrard did a bunch of film music though so it's not that surprising.

akm, Monday, 16 May 2011 19:20 (twelve years ago) link

I was gonna say, it's probably her that you hear on those soundtracks/ videogames.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 16 May 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

imo a lot of her solo work is as good as/better than a lot of dcd

w of in the attic (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 16 May 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

brendan perry's last album was pretty fantastic

omar little, Monday, 16 May 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link

Flashback to goth/rivethead/incipient programmers in the early 1990s mainlining those CDs as they pull all night sessions with their SLIP connections and I think the explanation is clear.

im listening to dead can dance and hacking in emacs, as if from another time

not@home> ░ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

based upon the two albums ive spent time with (serpent's egg and aion), these are the two songs i feel like illustrate the yin and yang of the duo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B35SMfHN5f8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQunZ0ReAu4

printf (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:02 (twelve years ago) link

The perfect union:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5vj3D-OD4

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

that track still sends shivers down my spine.

got electrolytes (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

wow.. stunning

printf (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

http://deadcandance.com/

pat methamphetamine (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

New album out August 9th.

http://www.directcurrentmusic.com/dc-music-news-feed/2012/5/7/dead-can-dance-are-alive-again-for-first-album-since-96.html

I am so incredibly excited about this.

theskysgoneout (Jason Pitzl-Waters), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

And they're back

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link

Cool, I'd like to see them live again. Although I wasn't particularly taken with the last album.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

hahaha, someone's been reading Jarcke and Murray uncritically. Still v. excited to hear the new album!

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

I thought the tour title sounded a bit final.

djh, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

oh, it's the tour name, I initially read it as another compilation.

StanM, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

I did the same - it was only when I checked the track titles that I realised I was mistaken.

djh, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

uhh $34 shipping?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

well, if it weighs over 2 pounds, it would cost about $30 to ship from US -> UK, dunno about vice-versa

com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

In one review of Anastasis that I saw, the author wondered if Perry and Gerrard were even ever in the same room together while making the album. I hadn’t thought of that, but their modern ability to just send audio files to each other across the world does mean a different kind of collaboration than on the earlier albums, and maybe the flaws of that album derive in large part due to that.

Melomane, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

That's ironic, because when I saw them on the last go-round they might as well have been in different rooms – they didn't interact onstage at all and the atmosphere was distinctly frosty.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Thursday, 6 September 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

first track that's out there for some people (on Youtube) is "The Mountain" but not for me. "This video contains content from (Merlin) PIAS, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

StanM, Saturday, 22 September 2018 11:44 (five years ago) link

it's a nice folksy bagpipe type thing with Brendan doing some invented language and Lisa a bit of mystère des voix Bulgares and there are goat sounds during the outro

StanM, Saturday, 22 September 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

Might have posted elsewhere: she appears on the new Mystere des Voix Bulgares album.

djh, Saturday, 22 September 2018 17:36 (five years ago) link

"The Mountain" is on their website, btw.

djh, Saturday, 22 September 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Meh. *shrugs*

StanM, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link

I’m liking it.
Mourning the loss of familiar DCD tropes (eg vocals), but as it is, it’s 1,000,000x better than Anastasis which is the only useless album by them for me.

I’m going to start playing it back to back (side 1 for side 1 etc) with Jon Hassell’s new Listening to Pictures - I find these two albums curiously related.

Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link

No vocals?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link

v skeptical about a no-vox DCD

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

There are vocals on the (only) track on the website.

djh, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

no.
there are Brendan and Lisa vocals, but on the second part only. in total, on about three out of seven tracks (that's including the preview track on the website).
the rest of the vocals are samples of singing voices from various sources.
the vocals are all lyric-less (à la Spiritchaser) and more Brendan than Lisa.

Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

to continue the connection with Jon Hassell's work, curiously enough the album starts more or less just like Hassell's Earthquake Island does.

Max Florian, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

it's ok. might grow on me. There are vocals but yes, no 'words'. It's a bit of a strange album for them to have done, IMO. I'll be thrilled to see them live again if they tour the US; I can't say this is my favorite album of theirs, but I haven't really loved anything after Toward the Within. I really like Perry's solo albums.

akm, Thursday, 1 November 2018 06:36 (five years ago) link

if they wanna release a string of experimental half-hour long albums that are all over the place, I'm on board... I'll get 'em all (although I won't be spending $50 on the deluxe editions).

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 November 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

that would be cool but I suspect it'll be another 6 years before another album comes out

akm, Thursday, 1 November 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link

Probably! Perry takes his time, but Gerrard is pretty prolific. Always collaborating with someone and releasing new stuff... I bet they could do another album in a year or two if they wanted.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 1 November 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

i'm enjoying this new album a lot but i think the best DCD related-thing of recent years is probably this Brendan Perry solo joint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rTFsWzXyl0

omar little, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

! ^ this is more DCD than the last two DCD albums (it even has that dulcimer thing I thought she played?)

StanM, Friday, 2 November 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

So I've been listening to Dionysus all weekend... it's true that Lisa Gerrard's presence on the album is minimal. It kinda sounds like Perry doing a remix of Spiritchaser, you get the sense that Gerrard kinda shipped over some vocal samples that he worked into the entire piece. There's not really a track where she takes the vocal lead a la Cantara, Yulunga, or the Love That Cannot Be.

I'm really digging it, but it is by far the most left-field thing they've ever released.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 5 November 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

And I should amend my statement to say Gerrard's vocal presence is minimal. They seem to have spent a couple years researching the subject of this record (Dionysus), and I would guess Gerrard was a part of that if they're calling it a Dead Can Dance record. Hoping there'll be an interview with them where they talk about how they conceived of and recorded this.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 5 November 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Mixed feelings so far. On the one hand, it really taps into a very specific DCD sound: it reminds me of their brief "jungle" phase after 'Aion' (eg the new songs on the 'Passage in Time' comp). On the other hand, I sometimes wonder if their work on movie soundtracks hasn't sanitized some of this music. Some of it feels a bit bland "exotic" incidental music.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 5 November 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

It does have the quality of a IMAX movie soundtrack... so aggressively naturalistic yet sharp, so your brain feels like a cat that's been petted too much and lashes out

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 5 November 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

So weird, I'm in the middle of watching the 'Spaceship Earth' documentary about Biosphere 2 and there's a shot of them laying around in a rec area, splayed on the floor listening to The Fatal Impact :)

Maresn3st, Thursday, 6 August 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

tour is cancelled for unspecified "health reasons". bummer.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

Lisa said in a recent interview that they were finished for good, leading to large amounts of exasperated and angry people on FB spouting off like babies. But what can you do.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 4 June 2023 18:56 (ten months ago) link

would have liked to see them live one more time, but this can hardly be a surprise... she was barely even on the last album

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Sunday, 4 June 2023 19:33 (ten months ago) link

yeah the last two albums and tours seemed like a cash grab tbh, you could tell their hearts weren't in it.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 4 June 2023 20:12 (ten months ago) link

she seemed to be attributing the end to health problems on brendan's part. not sure if he has long covid or some other issues. that said, I'm glad I saw their last tour, was looking forward to this one kind of, but I'm not heartbroken they've called it a day. I don't care much for the last two records either.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 4 June 2023 20:32 (ten months ago) link

five months pass...

Peter Ulrich's book about his time in DcD is great, lotsa detail about the early days.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:18 (five months ago) link

been wondering if that's any good!

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 00:55 (five months ago) link


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