"Map Ref 41N 93W"

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When I play this song during my radio shift I never know if I'm saying it correctly. The question is, what is the proper way to say this?

billstevejim, Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:26 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Map Ref(erence) 41 North 93 West

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The real answer is you can read it as is and no one will shout you down.

Xii (Xii), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Don't you actually say "degrees" somewhere in there?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 22:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The correct pronunciation is: "token crowd-pleasing track off one-five-four"

Clarke B. (Clarke B.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

What, "The 15th" can't crowd-please?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 01:50 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So, er, is there anything significant about that location?

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Yes, Wire wrote a song about it.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:02 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Apparently it's approximately the latitude and longitude of Des Moines, Iowa.


Graeme (Graeme), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:36 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


badgerminor (badgerminor), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Not to far from home, there. I'll have to find someone with a GPS and visit. Not before refining and defining my altitude, of course.

briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink


briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 02:55 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

When you arrive, maybe Colin Newman will be standing there singing at you.

Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Thursday, 7 October 2004 03:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

and I'll be all like, "That's getting a little old, isn't it?"

briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 03:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

He'd be grateful if you brought him a glass of water.

Pangolino (ricki spaghetti), Thursday, 7 October 2004 03:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure which Wire songs are crowd-pleasers. I'm the only person I know who recognizes who they are.

billstevejim, Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:17 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

glass of water to dry thread.

harshaw (jube), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:18 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

So is Dykehouse covering Wire, or covering MBV covering Wire...

rm, Thursday, 7 October 2004 05:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

hey that plane's dustin' where there's no crops...!

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 7 October 2004 05:15 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Best Wire song ever.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 7 October 2004 09:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

My iPod spit me "Silk Skin Paws" yesterday and it made me very happy. I like when Wire went all New Order-y. Didn't like it so much when they went all Wir-y not long after.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:34 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

just call it "Map Ref" .. kinda like calling Echo & The Bunnymen just plain 'Echo'.. (someone start a thread about band nicknames.)

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

That's Mister Echo to you.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 7 October 2004 13:41 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Great song, great album. Iowa?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Great state.

briania (briania), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Was this a very, very prescient dig at Slipknot?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:01 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Interrupting my train of thought
Rock of lassitude and crapitude

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

they're all crowd pleasers, where crowd = me

coco, Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:30 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

five years pass...

I like the way this song makes you wait something like 6 verses before they announce the chorus...

dog latin, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:21 (eight years ago) Permalink

the My Bloody Valentine version of this still utterly kicks it

Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

And they do! / he does!

(announce it, I mean)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 13:25 (eight years ago) Permalink

MBV totally phoned it in

...and it's still one of the best things they ever did

Cosmic Ugg (S-), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:08 (eight years ago) Permalink


greatest song ever btw.

Roz, Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:28 (eight years ago) Permalink

'i should have known better' is the one for me, probably in my top 5 songs

a. cole, u thic (acoleuthic), Thursday, 3 December 2009 15:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

whilst thinking about Eno's "The True Wheel" (because it won the Tiger Mountain poll) I suddenly felt there was some slight sonic link between it and "Map Ref", maybe the way it begins (sound?) or tempo or some of the chords - haven't compared them on a back to back play yet. then I noticed a link between another pair of Wire and Eno songs (but can't remember which two!). sorry, vague I know.

re: "I Should Have Known Better"
could the idea of a steady intro pulse have come from Metro's (album-opener) "Criminal World"? Mike Thorne produced Metro's (post- Duncan Browne) follow-up album close to the time of 154.

Paul, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:16 (eight years ago) Permalink


Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:22 (eight years ago) Permalink

Verrrrrrrrrrrry interesting

ILX Blob 59 (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:24 (eight years ago) Permalink

y'know Simon Reynolds has a pre-Wire Newman and Eno in the same car ...

dad a, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:29 (eight years ago) Permalink

"Baby's on DOT DASH, DOT DASH, better put her in the DON'T CRASH DON'T CRASH DON'T CRASH!"

Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:30 (eight years ago) Permalink

Don't give Simon Reynolds any credit for unearthing that one

ILX Blob 59 (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm sure that was in that Wire book that was out years ago

ILX Blob 59 (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 December 2009 17:42 (eight years ago) Permalink

People wanting more late 70's style Wire pop should check out 'Perspex Icon' off Object 57

Cosmic Ugg (S-), Friday, 4 December 2009 02:31 (eight years ago) Permalink

seven years pass...

I'm in Ireland just now, Killarney (none more Irish etc), I go into a pub, of course, buy a pint, sit down and this comes blasting out over the jukebox. Heaven, I tell you.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 June 2017 20:53 (ten months ago) Permalink

My definition too, if I ever get that lucky. (In a car gets you there too.)

clemenza, Saturday, 17 June 2017 21:03 (ten months ago) Permalink

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