Pavement:Classic or Dud

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Quirk-out kings of cult US rock or over-rated Fall rip-offs? Personally, I love 'em to bits.

Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I do realize that they can't swing, that Stephen Malkmus can't sing and that they could lay off the irony a little, but they're so much fun that I don't care. Pretty much everything up to Wowee Zowee is classic. Brighten The Corners I found a bit drab, so I didn't get Terror Twilight. Am I missing much ? Anyway, a Classic band, and "Father To A Sister Of Thought" is freakin' gorgeous.

Patrick, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I am not surprised to discover stevie's new record sounds exactly like pavement, except maybe "the Hook", which sounds like a slightly blues- funkier version of Pavement. Slanted & Enchanted was pretty much where it started and stopped for me. The songs, even Stevie agrees, all started to sound "the same"... "started to" or "always did"?

I can sum up Pavement with a few words: run-on sentences, inside-jokes (which, unfortunately are never explained), sloppy jams hovering somewhere between self-mocking angst and slacker apathy culminating in complacency.

Something about them was unique at one time, but not terribly more unique than several other bands of the same era. And, is it just me, or does Steve have NO RANGE?!

That being said, I think Pavement are okay for summer music ("Summer babe"...) but Steve's starting to wear out his welcome in my eardrums.

john yonderboy, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

It says something about them, or me, or this site, or all three, that I was absolutely stone-cold positive we'd had this thread before.

I like the ballads, I think - "Here", "We Dance". Ask me in ten years.

Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Actually no, Patrick, I feel "Terror Twilight" was where the rot set in but it still has some class songs on it eg. "Billie","Major Leagues"..Its funny that you mention that they are great fun because I always feel their music is full of those lovely cuddlesome FUN moments.....check the "Woo-woo" harmonies in "Trigger Cut"...the anthemic scarf waving chorus of "We are underused" and that line in "Billie"..."Black widows are seen as stigmatised beings who ought to have a second chance/and hurricanes spin like debutantes into a trance"...I could go on forever..

Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Best experience I've ever had with them was the collection of B-sides that I made from my friend Brian's collection on a CDR. Worked better than *any* of the real albums. I have no idea what that might mean.

I appreciate the Fall's virulence, to hark back to an obvious predecessor, to Pavement's mere quirkiness. Compared to the bile Mark E. can drop from his lips, the endlessly quoted putdowns from "Range Life" seem completely wimpy and pointless.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

you know what was a killer pavement tune? 'robyn turned 26', from the grand royal groovebox comp a while back. it's like they decided to out-grand royal all the grand royal artists on their own album. brilliant.

ethan padgett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Zee Pavement, veering into sub-classic territory. They were good and they alway surprised me in that I always liked their latest record, up till 'Brighten the Corners' after that i really lost interest. My favorite is "Wowee Zowee", it has the best ratio of pure melody and cool minimal krautrockin tunes. They were a rather boring live band after they fired Plant Maaaaaan.

Omar, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I like 'em. Never really heard the Fall. The last album they made wasn't so great. The Stephen Malkmus solo album is good. bye.

jel, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

I've never understood all the fuss about Pavement. The press have always liked Malkmus and the fact that he gives good interview seems to obscure the often dull music.

"Slanted.." is the only album that I play regularly, and I admit it's good, as is half of "Wowee Zowee". They CAN be almost great ("Summer Babe", "Here", "Father to a Sister of a Thought"), but seem content to pad out releases with half-arsed Pavement-by-numbers material. Or should that be Fall-by-numbers?

I lost interest by "Brighten the Corners" when it was clear that they could only do one thing, and we're probably going to do it for ever.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Classic. Pavemnet 4 ever MAN!

JM, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...
For one thing, some have taken (and still seem to take) Pavement too seriously. They are not meant to be (nor ever were meant to be) some sort of generational anthem band (ala Nirvana or Pearl Jam or Blur or whatever). They are just a bunch of kooks (funny slackers) who can toss off one hell of a catchy pop/rock tune that happen to come out of the 90's.

They make me bob my head and laugh and feel good - which is the whole of the point of Pavement (as far as I see it). And...job well-done.

'Crooked Rain, Crooken Rain' is simply brilliant in it's slackerisms. And is in my top 3 (maybe even THE) summer album list. Already have listened to it many times this very summer period and will surely listen to it many more times (as I have for past summers). It still hasn't lost it's charms on me (not come summer time, at least). Last summer, a younger cousin of mine got married. And...I played 'Crooked Rain' loud as I drove there and back as the perfect soundtrack to all that has been slacked in my young, but getting old, life. Worked perfectly for that "I'm 30. What do I have to show for it?" mood when you just want to say "Fuck it all. I'm going driving in search of some far off land of fairies and hot cocoa." (fine, maybe that's just me, but)

'Woowee Zowee' is good in many spots (nix the forced "punk" tracks). And Malkmus solo album is a solid summer album (for the most part). The rest...I don't care too much for, but. 'Crooked Rain' makes up for the rest alone.

michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

crooked rain, and wowee zowee are very good albums, but i'm wondering how well they've dated. i don't play these records anymore, maybe i don't connect so much with them now. i'm finding this, also with mercury rev (up to see you on the other side - deserters songs was appaling anyway), flaming lips, stereolab, tindersticks etc etc. these were favourite albums for such a long time, and i still think, objectively, they're great albums. so, why do i never play them anymore?

gareth, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

You've changed, duh.

Josh, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Has anyone heard Spiral Stairs' new project, Preston School of Industry? I find it superior to Malkmus' solo debut, but below the best of Pavement. Very enjoyable listen, and for some reason, I detected some Silver Jews in it, which is odd given that it's Malkmus that worked with them.

alex in montreal, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

haven't heard it, no. but isn't preston school of industry a very '96 name, sound like the sort of band who would have supported stereolab and been very pleased about their silver apples records. they might have been quite good though

gareth, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

*I'm* very pleased about the one Silver Apples record I own. If "Preston School of Industry" sounds '96 it's the obvious Ooop North-ness: at least it makes *me* think of *that* Preston ...

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

My fave Pavement moment (besides all of S&E and Crooked Rain (does sign of cross)) is B-side of "Rattled by the Rush", where they do their best Jon Spencer Blues Explosion ("False Skorpion"). It's still incontrovertibly Pavement, like they're in a police lineup with a fake moustache, desperately trying to "blow" it back into place. It's the kind of thing the Stones did constantly. Trying to sound like someone else, and failing = being your own hairy self. The Spencerisms are hilarious: "I ain't no woman... I ain't no woman... I'm a... MAYunnn... check me out!") The other B song on that 45, "So Easily Fooled", I like better than the single prob. cause it sounds like it belongs on Crooked Rain... so did I say that I liked Pavement?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Preston School of Industry is an abandoned reform school in Northern California. Merle Haggard has a PSOI tattoo on his arm. I thought the Stephen Malkmus album was ok, not as good as the Pavement albums but enjoyable all the same. I'll definitely check out the PSOI's new album tho. Great title too-"All this sounds gas".

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks. I see.

It being Preston, Lancashire would have fitted Pavement's rather tiresome Anglophile image, I suppose.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Dreadful garbage. I assume Pavement is one of those bands that "sounds better on vinyl." because on CD its just all flat murk with no texture. A crummy band trying...and failing...at imitating the VU. They don't imitate Sonic Youth, Teenage Fanclub or Slint any better. Every time I see a review where some self-satisfied critic gives "Slanted and Enchanted" a five-star review, I get angry. What a waste of perfectly good resources. Hell, at least Guided by Voices are incompetent enough to be funny. Pavement is just dull...dull...dullllll......

Lord Custos, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

hey look at me, back when i put my last name on my posts.

ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

look at me, I was good old jel back then. I need a flashier name.

james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

look at me, owning all the Pavement LPs and never talking about them.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

the last three posts would make a great chorus for a pavement esque song.

james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Too Late, Mark E Smith already used that as the chorus to a B-side.

Lord Custos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not all good - the good tunes are good the bad tunes are bad. malkmus' new stuff sucks. preston ain't much better. at least they were better than polvo.

bob snoom, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...
they were pretty good weren't they? i went off them for a good, long while there, but they will "last". 8/10.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm shocked that strongo's resurrecting a Pavement thread

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha why is everyone so shocked when i like an indie band considering my repeated admissions of love for superchunk for chrissakes!?!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

(plus i just find the very old threads super-quaint.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i sound like a spa up there. still my fave band tho.

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link

We were soliders then, and young.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

blazing a trail for lesser lights to follow a few months later. (cough.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (seventeen years ago) link

ha ha why is everyone so shocked when i like an indie band considering my repeated admissions of love for superchunk for chrissakes!?!

well because your vitriol for the indie bands you don't like is so potent! but what people don't realize is that this is only because a True Indie Rock Player cannot tolerate impure visions, hangers-on, fake players in tha tr00 game! Why ride the Night Train to Butterglory when you can have the '97 California Cabernet of Trigger Cut! latecomers get a late pass, we been up in this game since the jump!

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:11 (seventeen years ago) link

this is all true thomas, but my vitriol for EVERYTHING i don't like is so potent. i mean, ask me about paul oakenfold sometime.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I know man I heard Oakenfold & DJ Tiesto are gonna ride up on you one of these days while you got Wiley in your headphones and pop! pop! one more megatrance hater 2 tha morgue

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:32 (seventeen years ago) link

dj tiesto can lick deez nuts. also, we're gonna run up outside twilo and hit that nigga bt with a spike fuckin bat.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:34 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/images/profiles/tiesto.jpg

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:38 (seventeen years ago) link

watch out for these west coast trance g's homie, they got glowsticks in they motherfuckin belts

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I miss them, especially in light of my increased appreciation for the last two records. It's not that I'd choose one over the other (S&E/CR,CR vs BtC/TT); I'm just glad that the Pavement of the last two albums existed. It's like after seeing their "cool, ironic and detached" side, we got a rewarding glimpse at their more relaxed and at-ease side (thus more daydreaming material).

alex in montreal, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

best song off S&E sounds least like the rest; i'd like them if all their songs sounded like that one.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:19 (twelve years ago) link

With each Pavement album, there's like six good-to-great songs, and the rest is just absolute self-indulgent wankery garbage. It's shocking that their first couple records have achieved the status of Perfect Canonical Rock Classics That Everyone Should Buy. TRUST ME - THEY'RE NOT!

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:47 (twelve years ago) link

I completely agree with that, at least for S&E. I couldn't even listen to CRCR-- particularly that godawful single "Cut Your Hair"; Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners failed to make any impression on me whatsoever-- well, except that they seemed exceedingly mediocre. S&E has a few good songs, but "Here" is the standout tune, and it doesn't sound like the rest. I never feel inclined to listen to anything else by Pavement besides that song.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:51 (twelve years ago) link

here?

also, classic!

xpost

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:52 (twelve years ago) link

the last song sounds a lot like "here." i'm blanking on the name. "i've been waiting. anticipating."

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

pavement are my favorite band ever. it makes me a little sad to know that some people don't like them; there's certainly some aspect of their music that everyone can love. a lot of people complain about malkmus' voice (especially early), but i think that he does some fantastic things with his voice that don't really fall under the "technical" category.
i've never really heard anyone say that the guy can't write a tune, mostly because that would be absurd to say. i can see why some people would be a bit put off by his (to them) excessive ennui and laid-back style, but for me that just enhanced what i loved about him. also, the more time you spend with the records, the more you can appreciate the songs which aren't as obvious at first. i know he first time i listened to S+E, i didnt really 'get' it besides "here", which i probably put on repeat for 5 hours straight. once you get adjusted to that particular style, the other stuff starts to make sense. what might ostensibly be "self-indulgent" are to me fruitful exercises in his singular, genius style. to each his own, though.

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

mr snrub, that's "our singer", S+E's closer

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/2009/02/the_spin_pavement_reunion_at_t.php

four-fifths of Pavement reunites (not really) for Bob N.'s wedding

dmr, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

was spiral stairs not invited? harsh.
i certainly wouldn't mind seeing Pavement play live again, but all of the hubbub and hype that would accompany a potential reunion would be dreadful, I'm sure.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

yeah when they go in it’s cool but the actual “song” part I’m not so into

brimstead, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:32 (seven months ago) link

The pretty jam part in that song is really nice, but I really don’t dig how they resolve it with that loud, repeating, descending riff thing... feels like a Pave cliche.

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:35 (seven months ago) link

(I feel the same way about the similar part in “Transport is Arranged,” on the previous alb)

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:36 (seven months ago) link

Unfortunately I've never once heard the whispered part without thinking of Marilyn Manson's 'The Beautiful People'

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:48 (seven months ago) link

Aw man don't bring that guy into the Pave thread

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:52 (seven months ago) link

They were different times

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 February 2021 16:52 (seven months ago) link

The main menu was the album cover and when it started up it played the intro riff to Spit on a Stranger over and over again.

This sounds really familiar, but I don’t remember owning the CD-ROM (and I definitely didn’t win the poetry contest).

I still remember one of those poems that was funny... it was about a guy taking a girl on a date, and ended with something like:

She came back to my room
And I put on something to please her
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
The date’s in vain; she said, “Hey, this sounds like Weezer”

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:25 (seven months ago) link

Bonus Enhanced CD
2-1 Audio Introduction By The Band (CD Audio) 3:45
Multimedia Section
2-2 Track By Track Commentary (Video)
2-3 Home Video Section (Video)
2-4 ...And Carrot Rope (Video)
2-5 Stereo (Video)
2-6 Shady Lane (Video)

...in very late 90s digital technology (think realplayer codecs while your CDROM drive was absolutely drowning out your computer speakers with its whining spinrate)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:32 (seven months ago) link

Do you guys remember the “Pavement Chat” on the Matador website in like ‘95 or ‘96?

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:35 (seven months ago) link

The only time we used a producer was with Nigel Godrich, who all engineers and studio people rightfully are in awe of. He’s pretty much the alpha of new-generation producers. He was interested in Pavement. He and Radiohead were fans of [Pavement] and Wowee Zowee. He told us he had time off and would like to do [Terror Twilight]. He also did Beck’s Mutations which he was really proud of. He played me some of that. So that’s when we used one and I didn’t know what that was going to entail. But he was cool. He was like “I just want my percentage points, you don’t even have to pay me a fee. I’m free and I’ve already made a lot of money and I want to work with you guys, so we’ll carry this to the end.” We paid for the studio time of course, which started to get expensive. Because he had his own, uh, standards.

First we started at the Sonic Youth studio. They also had a nice Neve board. When we got there the faders were upside down. We recorded three days and Nigel was losing his mind trying to figure this out. He couldn’t get the “Nigel” sound so we had to stop. The headphone mixes were dubious at best. There were a lot of reasons why we left [the studio]. Then we went to this place by Washington Square Park where the Beastie Boys recorded. It was on the 14th floor of this really nice apartment building. It was a small room because it was New York, but it was really nice. Super fancy. Nigel said “We’re going to do it here.” A few thousand dollars later we had 7/10 of the album. Then we still had to do overdubs. We went to England where he lives, and we went to RAK where he started. RAK is a great historical studio that Mickie Most owned. He was a hit-maker with Hot Chocolate. He knew the Yardbirds and Jimmy Page. There were three studios there, and we were in the cheaper one.

We had to get a new drummer for a couple of songs. Steve West couldn’t play these songs in time that needed to be in time. So we got the High Llamas drummer. And I drummed on one song too, but that wasn’t the one that needed to be out of time - in the right way. That was a real, classic rock, overproduced, $100,000 record. With that much money you should be able to make something good. We made some things that weren’t as good as they could’ve been. There was a big argument about the order of the songs. No one really cares about this album that much. [Nigel] had a certain order that was with a difficult song first, like Radiohead’s OK Computer that had a longer more challenging song to set the tempo. Scott in our band, and the other ones, not only did they not like that song, but they barely played on it. They wanted this easier song first, like the hit song. So Nigel was like “I’m done with this. This is the wrong move. We made a stoner album and you’re going halfway.” He’s right probably.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:38 (seven months ago) link

Haha the whispered part is SO "The Beautiful People", I'm assuming it's parody. Never noticed that before

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:40 (seven months ago) link

xp Wasn’t that the podcast Interview that started that weird flap, where Nigel tweeted like “I slept on floors” etc.

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:45 (seven months ago) link

funny thing, they had already made their stoner album 2 albums before

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:01 (seven months ago) link

there's nothing really stonery about major leagues

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:01 (seven months ago) link

worst pavement album track!! (okay maybe 'cept some spiral songs)

cerebral halsey (rip van wanko), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:37 (seven months ago) link

Kennel D
Date w/IKEA
Passat Dream

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:55 (seven months ago) link

Worst SM track in Pavement?

For me maybe Newark Wilder

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:55 (seven months ago) link

re: Albert's post, that's from a Pitchfork story that had the headline Stephen Malkmus Opens Up About Recording “Overproduced” Terror Twilight With Nigel Godrich

Godrich saw it and responded with this.

Stephen Malkmus saw Godrich's tweet and responded with this, and Godrich replied.

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:56 (seven months ago) link

Actually let me try pasting in the links raw - they should show up, right?

I literally slept on a friend's floor in NYC to be able to make that album.. https://t.co/0NeMT1Q0AV

— nigel godrich 🌈 (@nigelgod) February 18, 2017

Love you too dear Stephen.. one of my fav people ... just wanted to point out what a lame headline that was... :)

— nigel godrich 🌈 (@nigelgod) February 18, 2017

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:58 (seven months ago) link

Agh, Malkmus's tweet got lost. Here it is:

@pitchfork I love Nigel and can't even believe I got to record with him!!! Towering skills and fucking fun to hang with.

— Stephen malkmus (@dronecoma) February 18, 2017

birdistheword, Friday, 12 February 2021 18:59 (seven months ago) link

Kennel D
Date w/IKEA

noooooooooo

Passat Dream
ok yeah prob

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:02 (seven months ago) link

this godrich tracklist is pretty bad

global tetrahedron, Friday, 12 February 2021 19:04 (seven months ago) link

I could see the Godrich tracklist working if Platform Blues did something different when it kicked in. . . it's pretty great before it does.

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:11 (seven months ago) link

I like it but don’t know if it’s just b/c it puts the album in a new light (don’t know if it would have “worked” as the main tracklist)

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:28 (seven months ago) link

a big part of the problem here isn't that the songs are bad per se, it's maybe just the weakest Pavement collection of all, so it's hard to get excited by a lot of it.

a (waterface), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:32 (seven months ago) link

Both TT and Brighten are made up of too many sluggish to midpaced songs, the official sequence of TT definitely did not help in that area

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 February 2021 19:48 (seven months ago) link

I will not tolerate Major Leagues or Newark Wilder hate ITT. What is wrong with you people

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:04 (seven months ago) link

PO5: Worst Pavement and Malkmus tracks

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 20:08 (seven months ago) link

I've warmed to Gold Soundz a bit.

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:03 (seven months ago) link

contentious list indeed.

i'd agree w black book though. woof.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:23 (seven months ago) link

Stephen Malkmus >>> TT

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:32 (seven months ago) link

^ deffo

PaulTMA, Friday, 12 February 2021 22:11 (seven months ago) link

question for the old heads: were "My First Mine" & "My Radio" on Westing originally from Drag City comps?

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:20 (seven months ago) link

"My Radio" came out on this comp, but it wasn't a Drag City one

"My First Mine", iirc, was from some British magazine flexi

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:26 (seven months ago) link

ah nice. thanks!

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:26 (seven months ago) link

xp note: "My Radio" was put out on former ILXor Mike McGonigal's excellent Zine Chemical Imbalance.

"My First Mine" came out on this flexi:
https://www.discogs.com/Fluff-3-Pavement-Us-My-First-Mine/release/1558792

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:39 (seven months ago) link

I have that flexi, found it in a charity shop years ago

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:44 (seven months ago) link

Thanks for filling in the rest of the info, I was impressed enough with myself remembering the Chemical Imbalance comp! Had no idea an ILXor was involved.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 22:46 (seven months ago) link

Newark wilder is the best song on crcr

brimstead, Saturday, 13 February 2021 03:19 (seven months ago) link

Definitely a highlight

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Saturday, 13 February 2021 08:36 (seven months ago) link

On some days I concur with brimstead on this

We’re Up All Night To Get Lochte (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 13 February 2021 12:15 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

Never realized - until now - the debt that the "Half a Canyon" outro owes to Swell Maps' "Full Moon in My Pocket"... particularly the "Full Moon (Reprise)." That is all.

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:55 (five months ago) link

shit baby

a (waterface), Thursday, 1 April 2021 11:57 (five months ago) link

five months pass...

Why do these guys tour/play Europe (only)? Are there really more Pavement fans there than the US?

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:15 (one week ago) link

I'm hoping a US tour will follow. To be fair, they haven't toured anywhere since 2010, have they?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:19 (one week ago) link

Not toured, but I think they've played (or at least scheduled) a few Euro fests. Hopefully a US tour is TBA, yeah.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:21 (one week ago) link

They toured all over 10 years ago and haven't done any shows since.

My guess is they will do some US dates either next summer or maybe spring/summer 2023.

Remember, those NYC shows 10 years ago were announced first (4 nights I believe) and a bunch of people bought tickets

A few weeks later *then* the US tour was announced

Primavera has been on the books since a little before pre COVID

a (waterface), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:30 (one week ago) link

If I recall correctly, they said when they originally announced Primavera 18+ months ago that further touring was coming in 2021. No question they'll tour America in 2022. This is just a normal first leg announcement.

With that said, I'm tempted to fly over for a London vaca around that four-night stand. Wish I could feel assured of a different set of songs every night, but that seems unlikely given the circumstances. Four nights of 15 of the same songs plus switching in and out another 7 or whatever is less appealing.

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:10 (one week ago) link

£50! is that normal these days & i'm just old? oh well, plumped for the last night of the london shows.

ledge, Monday, 13 September 2021 08:33 (five days ago) link

They added another Dublin date such was the demand. Got a ticket for their second show -60 euro

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 13 September 2021 15:50 (five days ago) link


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