Pavement:Classic or Dud

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Quirk-out kings of cult US rock or over-rated Fall rip-offs? Personally, I love 'em to bits.

Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I do realize that they can't swing, that Stephen Malkmus can't sing and that they could lay off the irony a little, but they're so much fun that I don't care. Pretty much everything up to Wowee Zowee is classic. Brighten The Corners I found a bit drab, so I didn't get Terror Twilight. Am I missing much ? Anyway, a Classic band, and "Father To A Sister Of Thought" is freakin' gorgeous.

Patrick, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am not surprised to discover stevie's new record sounds exactly like pavement, except maybe "the Hook", which sounds like a slightly blues- funkier version of Pavement. Slanted & Enchanted was pretty much where it started and stopped for me. The songs, even Stevie agrees, all started to sound "the same"... "started to" or "always did"?

I can sum up Pavement with a few words: run-on sentences, inside-jokes (which, unfortunately are never explained), sloppy jams hovering somewhere between self-mocking angst and slacker apathy culminating in complacency.

Something about them was unique at one time, but not terribly more unique than several other bands of the same era. And, is it just me, or does Steve have NO RANGE?!

That being said, I think Pavement are okay for summer music ("Summer babe"...) but Steve's starting to wear out his welcome in my eardrums.

john yonderboy, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

It says something about them, or me, or this site, or all three, that I was absolutely stone-cold positive we'd had this thread before.

I like the ballads, I think - "Here", "We Dance". Ask me in ten years.

Tom, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Actually no, Patrick, I feel "Terror Twilight" was where the rot set in but it still has some class songs on it eg. "Billie","Major Leagues"..Its funny that you mention that they are great fun because I always feel their music is full of those lovely cuddlesome FUN moments.....check the "Woo-woo" harmonies in "Trigger Cut"...the anthemic scarf waving chorus of "We are underused" and that line in "Billie"..."Black widows are seen as stigmatised beings who ought to have a second chance/and hurricanes spin like debutantes into a trance"...I could go on forever..

Michael Bourke, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Best experience I've ever had with them was the collection of B-sides that I made from my friend Brian's collection on a CDR. Worked better than *any* of the real albums. I have no idea what that might mean.

I appreciate the Fall's virulence, to hark back to an obvious predecessor, to Pavement's mere quirkiness. Compared to the bile Mark E. can drop from his lips, the endlessly quoted putdowns from "Range Life" seem completely wimpy and pointless.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

you know what was a killer pavement tune? 'robyn turned 26', from the grand royal groovebox comp a while back. it's like they decided to out-grand royal all the grand royal artists on their own album. brilliant.

ethan padgett, Monday, 26 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Zee Pavement, veering into sub-classic territory. They were good and they alway surprised me in that I always liked their latest record, up till 'Brighten the Corners' after that i really lost interest. My favorite is "Wowee Zowee", it has the best ratio of pure melody and cool minimal krautrockin tunes. They were a rather boring live band after they fired Plant Maaaaaan.

Omar, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I like 'em. Never really heard the Fall. The last album they made wasn't so great. The Stephen Malkmus solo album is good. bye.

jel, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've never understood all the fuss about Pavement. The press have always liked Malkmus and the fact that he gives good interview seems to obscure the often dull music.

"Slanted.." is the only album that I play regularly, and I admit it's good, as is half of "Wowee Zowee". They CAN be almost great ("Summer Babe", "Here", "Father to a Sister of a Thought"), but seem content to pad out releases with half-arsed Pavement-by-numbers material. Or should that be Fall-by-numbers?

I lost interest by "Brighten the Corners" when it was clear that they could only do one thing, and we're probably going to do it for ever.

Dr. C, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Classic. Pavemnet 4 ever MAN!

JM, Tuesday, 27 February 2001 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
For one thing, some have taken (and still seem to take) Pavement too seriously. They are not meant to be (nor ever were meant to be) some sort of generational anthem band (ala Nirvana or Pearl Jam or Blur or whatever). They are just a bunch of kooks (funny slackers) who can toss off one hell of a catchy pop/rock tune that happen to come out of the 90's.

They make me bob my head and laugh and feel good - which is the whole of the point of Pavement (as far as I see it). And...job well-done.

'Crooked Rain, Crooken Rain' is simply brilliant in it's slackerisms. And is in my top 3 (maybe even THE) summer album list. Already have listened to it many times this very summer period and will surely listen to it many more times (as I have for past summers). It still hasn't lost it's charms on me (not come summer time, at least). Last summer, a younger cousin of mine got married. And...I played 'Crooked Rain' loud as I drove there and back as the perfect soundtrack to all that has been slacked in my young, but getting old, life. Worked perfectly for that "I'm 30. What do I have to show for it?" mood when you just want to say "Fuck it all. I'm going driving in search of some far off land of fairies and hot cocoa." (fine, maybe that's just me, but)

'Woowee Zowee' is good in many spots (nix the forced "punk" tracks). And Malkmus solo album is a solid summer album (for the most part). The rest...I don't care too much for, but. 'Crooked Rain' makes up for the rest alone.

michael g. breece, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

crooked rain, and wowee zowee are very good albums, but i'm wondering how well they've dated. i don't play these records anymore, maybe i don't connect so much with them now. i'm finding this, also with mercury rev (up to see you on the other side - deserters songs was appaling anyway), flaming lips, stereolab, tindersticks etc etc. these were favourite albums for such a long time, and i still think, objectively, they're great albums. so, why do i never play them anymore?

gareth, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

You've changed, duh.

Josh, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Has anyone heard Spiral Stairs' new project, Preston School of Industry? I find it superior to Malkmus' solo debut, but below the best of Pavement. Very enjoyable listen, and for some reason, I detected some Silver Jews in it, which is odd given that it's Malkmus that worked with them.

alex in montreal, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

haven't heard it, no. but isn't preston school of industry a very '96 name, sound like the sort of band who would have supported stereolab and been very pleased about their silver apples records. they might have been quite good though

gareth, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

*I'm* very pleased about the one Silver Apples record I own. If "Preston School of Industry" sounds '96 it's the obvious Ooop North-ness: at least it makes *me* think of *that* Preston ...

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

My fave Pavement moment (besides all of S&E and Crooked Rain (does sign of cross)) is B-side of "Rattled by the Rush", where they do their best Jon Spencer Blues Explosion ("False Skorpion"). It's still incontrovertibly Pavement, like they're in a police lineup with a fake moustache, desperately trying to "blow" it back into place. It's the kind of thing the Stones did constantly. Trying to sound like someone else, and failing = being your own hairy self. The Spencerisms are hilarious: "I ain't no woman... I ain't no woman... I'm a... MAYunnn... check me out!") The other B song on that 45, "So Easily Fooled", I like better than the single prob. cause it sounds like it belongs on Crooked Rain... so did I say that I liked Pavement?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

The Preston School of Industry is an abandoned reform school in Northern California. Merle Haggard has a PSOI tattoo on his arm. I thought the Stephen Malkmus album was ok, not as good as the Pavement albums but enjoyable all the same. I'll definitely check out the PSOI's new album tho. Great title too-"All this sounds gas".

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks. I see.

It being Preston, Lancashire would have fitted Pavement's rather tiresome Anglophile image, I suppose.

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 18 July 2001 00:00 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Dreadful garbage. I assume Pavement is one of those bands that "sounds better on vinyl." because on CD its just all flat murk with no texture. A crummy band trying...and failing...at imitating the VU. They don't imitate Sonic Youth, Teenage Fanclub or Slint any better. Every time I see a review where some self-satisfied critic gives "Slanted and Enchanted" a five-star review, I get angry. What a waste of perfectly good resources. Hell, at least Guided by Voices are incompetent enough to be funny. Pavement is just dull...dull...dullllll......

Lord Custos, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

hey look at me, back when i put my last name on my posts.

ethan, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

look at me, I was good old jel back then. I need a flashier name.

james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

look at me, owning all the Pavement LPs and never talking about them.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

the last three posts would make a great chorus for a pavement esque song.

james, Sunday, 28 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

Too Late, Mark E Smith already used that as the chorus to a B-side.

Lord Custos, Wednesday, 31 October 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

it's not all good - the good tunes are good the bad tunes are bad. malkmus' new stuff sucks. preston ain't much better. at least they were better than polvo.

bob snoom, Saturday, 3 November 2001 01:00 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
they were pretty good weren't they? i went off them for a good, long while there, but they will "last". 8/10.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm shocked that strongo's resurrecting a Pavement thread

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha why is everyone so shocked when i like an indie band considering my repeated admissions of love for superchunk for chrissakes!?!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

(plus i just find the very old threads super-quaint.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i sound like a spa up there. still my fave band tho.

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

We were soliders then, and young.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

blazing a trail for lesser lights to follow a few months later. (cough.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha why is everyone so shocked when i like an indie band considering my repeated admissions of love for superchunk for chrissakes!?!

well because your vitriol for the indie bands you don't like is so potent! but what people don't realize is that this is only because a True Indie Rock Player cannot tolerate impure visions, hangers-on, fake players in tha tr00 game! Why ride the Night Train to Butterglory when you can have the '97 California Cabernet of Trigger Cut! latecomers get a late pass, we been up in this game since the jump!

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:11 (eighteen years ago) link

this is all true thomas, but my vitriol for EVERYTHING i don't like is so potent. i mean, ask me about paul oakenfold sometime.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I know man I heard Oakenfold & DJ Tiesto are gonna ride up on you one of these days while you got Wiley in your headphones and pop! pop! one more megatrance hater 2 tha morgue

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link

dj tiesto can lick deez nuts. also, we're gonna run up outside twilo and hit that nigga bt with a spike fuckin bat.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:34 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.residentadvisor.com.au/images/profiles/tiesto.jpg

Michael B, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link

watch out for these west coast trance g's homie, they got glowsticks in they motherfuckin belts

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I miss them, especially in light of my increased appreciation for the last two records. It's not that I'd choose one over the other (S&E/CR,CR vs BtC/TT); I'm just glad that the Pavement of the last two albums existed. It's like after seeing their "cool, ironic and detached" side, we got a rewarding glimpse at their more relaxed and at-ease side (thus more daydreaming material).

alex in montreal, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

best song off S&E sounds least like the rest; i'd like them if all their songs sounded like that one.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

With each Pavement album, there's like six good-to-great songs, and the rest is just absolute self-indulgent wankery garbage. It's shocking that their first couple records have achieved the status of Perfect Canonical Rock Classics That Everyone Should Buy. TRUST ME - THEY'RE NOT!

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I completely agree with that, at least for S&E. I couldn't even listen to CRCR-- particularly that godawful single "Cut Your Hair"; Wowee Zowee and Brighten the Corners failed to make any impression on me whatsoever-- well, except that they seemed exceedingly mediocre. S&E has a few good songs, but "Here" is the standout tune, and it doesn't sound like the rest. I never feel inclined to listen to anything else by Pavement besides that song.

Pantheism F. Mohair (res), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

here?

also, classic!

xpost

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link

the last song sounds a lot like "here." i'm blanking on the name. "i've been waiting. anticipating."

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

pavement are my favorite band ever. it makes me a little sad to know that some people don't like them; there's certainly some aspect of their music that everyone can love. a lot of people complain about malkmus' voice (especially early), but i think that he does some fantastic things with his voice that don't really fall under the "technical" category.
i've never really heard anyone say that the guy can't write a tune, mostly because that would be absurd to say. i can see why some people would be a bit put off by his (to them) excessive ennui and laid-back style, but for me that just enhanced what i loved about him. also, the more time you spend with the records, the more you can appreciate the songs which aren't as obvious at first. i know he first time i listened to S+E, i didnt really 'get' it besides "here", which i probably put on repeat for 5 hours straight. once you get adjusted to that particular style, the other stuff starts to make sense. what might ostensibly be "self-indulgent" are to me fruitful exercises in his singular, genius style. to each his own, though.

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

mr snrub, that's "our singer", S+E's closer

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/2009/02/the_spin_pavement_reunion_at_t.php

four-fifths of Pavement reunites (not really) for Bob N.'s wedding

dmr, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:16 (thirteen years ago) link

was spiral stairs not invited? harsh.
i certainly wouldn't mind seeing Pavement play live again, but all of the hubbub and hype that would accompany a potential reunion would be dreadful, I'm sure.

tylerw, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link

shit baby

a (waterface), Thursday, 1 April 2021 11:57 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Why do these guys tour/play Europe (only)? Are there really more Pavement fans there than the US?

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:15 (eight months ago) link

I'm hoping a US tour will follow. To be fair, they haven't toured anywhere since 2010, have they?

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:19 (eight months ago) link

Not toured, but I think they've played (or at least scheduled) a few Euro fests. Hopefully a US tour is TBA, yeah.

tumblin’ dice outro (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:21 (eight months ago) link

They toured all over 10 years ago and haven't done any shows since.

My guess is they will do some US dates either next summer or maybe spring/summer 2023.

Remember, those NYC shows 10 years ago were announced first (4 nights I believe) and a bunch of people bought tickets

A few weeks later *then* the US tour was announced

Primavera has been on the books since a little before pre COVID

a (waterface), Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:30 (eight months ago) link

If I recall correctly, they said when they originally announced Primavera 18+ months ago that further touring was coming in 2021. No question they'll tour America in 2022. This is just a normal first leg announcement.

With that said, I'm tempted to fly over for a London vaca around that four-night stand. Wish I could feel assured of a different set of songs every night, but that seems unlikely given the circumstances. Four nights of 15 of the same songs plus switching in and out another 7 or whatever is less appealing.

alpine static, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 20:10 (eight months ago) link

£50! is that normal these days & i'm just old? oh well, plumped for the last night of the london shows.

ledge, Monday, 13 September 2021 08:33 (eight months ago) link

They added another Dublin date such was the demand. Got a ticket for their second show -60 euro

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Monday, 13 September 2021 15:50 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Songkick.com lists a few SF dates in 2022 (Sept. 12, 13, and 14, at the Masonic); but they’re not on the official tour page, and a Mon.–Wed. hometown run sounds unlikely. Maybe a weird glitch?

juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 03:51 (seven months ago) link

Interestingly, Primavera Sound Los Angeles (2022) is Fri, 9/16 – Sun, 9/18 (a friend has a “theory” they’ll play that fest). The dates do line up…

juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 04:53 (seven months ago) link

That'd be great if Pavement's at PS LA. Makes sense given their first shows back will be at Primavera Sound in Barcelona.

DT, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 05:05 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

The dates are up: https://pavementband.com/#tour

juristic person (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:26 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

https://pitchfork.com/news/pavement-announce-slanted-and-enchanted-30th-anniversary-reissue/

Anyone ever hear the two non-LP songs on the cassette – “Pain Smiles” and “Pillowjack”?

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:07 (four weeks ago) link

(I mean, anyone here)

begrudgingly bound by duty of candor (morrisp), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:07 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe they should just wait until the 100th anniversary and include everything. Please and thank you.

we only steal from the greatest books (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:10 (four weeks ago) link

Never heard or heard of 'em. Getting time-vertigo considering that twice as much time has elapsed between this and Luxe & Reduxe (which is what introduced me to the band!), than between L&R and the original album.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:12 (four weeks ago) link

As with Pixies, I never got these guys. I think I was just a little too old to catch the moment.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 15:39 (four weeks ago) link

xpost, email from Matador's publicist says this:

"This is an early version of the finished album with a different running order and a handful of alternate track titles."

i take that to mean that there are no new songs on the cassette.

alpine static, Wednesday, 20 April 2022 16:28 (four weeks ago) link

Is there a way to hear this podcast without Spotify? (I assume it’ll be everywhere in a week)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 April 2022 19:22 (four weeks ago) link

i just realized that this year has now brought us the 25th ann'y of Brighten, the TT reissue and the 30th ann'y of Slanted

alpine static, Thursday, 21 April 2022 16:18 (three weeks ago) link

I assume Pillowjack is Sue Me Jack

Pain Smiles is. . . . ?

a (waterface), Friday, 22 April 2022 12:06 (three weeks ago) link

Is there a way to hear this podcast without Spotify? (I assume it’ll be everywhere in a week)

There isn't but the podcast is totally great

a (waterface), Friday, 22 April 2022 12:07 (three weeks ago) link

What podcast?

thewufs, Friday, 22 April 2022 13:02 (three weeks ago) link

Never mind, found it on the TT thread

thewufs, Friday, 22 April 2022 13:04 (three weeks ago) link

slightly offtopic, but morrisp - do you still have that david's gone file from the burned cd? wondering if i could do something to decode/convert it somehow - no promises though

dietpepsi, Monday, 2 May 2022 02:37 (two weeks ago) link

Sorry, I don’t!

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Monday, 2 May 2022 02:50 (two weeks ago) link

ah well, was worth asking... have been on the hunt for that track and have gotten close to finding it a million times, no luck yet unfortunately

another copy of the tape just sold on ebay today though, so who knows

dietpepsi, Monday, 2 May 2022 03:02 (two weeks ago) link

$399 for a TDK D60? Holy moley…

Hops: Mosaic, Citra, Simcoe (morrisp), Monday, 2 May 2022 03:58 (two weeks ago) link

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— PAVEMENT (@pavement_band) May 12, 2022



Dad Nastanovic

calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:01 (four days ago) link

We’re seeing them on Monday the 23rd, at the Fonda

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:22 (four days ago) link

How much were your tix?

calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 16:47 (four days ago) link

I think around $120 each (incl. fees)

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Saturday, 14 May 2022 17:01 (four days ago) link

That’s a lot of greenlander

calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 17:36 (four days ago) link

Wave your credit cards in the air, right?

(we’re also seeing them in September, more than once…)

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:13 (four days ago) link

I listened to crooked rain this morning via shitify and remembered how much better it sounded on my wobbly turntable years ago :p

calstars, Saturday, 14 May 2022 18:37 (four days ago) link

calstars, this isn't the Kids in the Hall thread.

pplains, Sunday, 15 May 2022 01:20 (three days ago) link

Whatever that means

calstars, Sunday, 15 May 2022 02:13 (three days ago) link

Five middle-aged white guys coming back for another reunion!

pplains, Monday, 16 May 2022 12:44 (two days ago) link

Mastering on most of those reissues sadly sounds like butt

PaulTMA, Monday, 16 May 2022 13:18 (two days ago) link

Five middle-aged white guys coming back for another reunion!


Ahh
Sadly (luckily?) I have no knowledge of the kids in the hall.

calstars, Monday, 16 May 2022 13:58 (two days ago) link

the Atl show this fall sold out immediately (at least for the sat night show) when tix went on sale last year. found out my best friend from jr high/hs and his wife were coming in town for it so my gf and I got some on Vivid Seats and it’s kind of embarrassing what I ended up paying. bless her she’s a music fan w fairly eclectic tastes and genuinely game for whatever. but after the purchase she (grew up in Brazil) was like ok so who’s this band commanding these kinds of prices. I played some her some “hits” and she’s basically “huh. how about that.” Loooool

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Monday, 16 May 2022 14:41 (two days ago) link

Someone should compare the ticket prices with the current Smashing Pumpkins tour, and figure out who finally won that war

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Monday, 16 May 2022 15:16 (two days ago) link

Dud

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 16 May 2022 15:19 (two days ago) link

lol I'm sure Pavement's point on that song was that they were ultimately going to make more money than Smashing Pumpkins

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 16 May 2022 15:29 (two days ago) link

I was thinking of a good first show to bring my 7.5 year old to; he kinda digs pavement, figured it was far enough out that I could get some sort of not terribly expensive tickets and holy shit the cheapest ones for the closest show are $170 apiece.

joygoat, Monday, 16 May 2022 15:59 (two days ago) link

i saw them ten years ago and they were fine. "grounded" was dope live

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:02 (two days ago) link

I saw them in 1994 and people were slam dancing. I saw them in '99 and people were standing around nodding their heads.

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:15 (two days ago) link

i've seen videos of people moshing to mbv, the 90s were something

global tetrahedron, Monday, 16 May 2022 16:20 (two days ago) link

lol I'm sure Pavement's point on that song was that they were ultimately going to make more money than Smashing Pumpkins

While I'm (mostly) joking, I wasn't thinking of the song so much as Corgan slamming them - “People don’t fall in love to Pavement... they put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them.” Obviously he was full of it at the time, but the fact that their fans are willing/eager to shell out $$$ to see them play again shows how much they mean to a lot of people.

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:23 (two days ago) link

(also, I disagree w/that "reading" of the song, even though it's like my least favorite Pavement song, but whatevs)

Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Monday, 16 May 2022 16:25 (two days ago) link


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