boredoms - seadrum/house of sun

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album of the year?

― mattp, Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i seem to like it more than most around here, but that makes sense when you consider that my favorites this year so far are the necks and charalambides

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)

definitely not. pretty disappointing.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ryan: tell me more. i still haven't heard it, but i dug the nnck "dutch money" LP and also the new charalambides.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

The second track could have been shortened by about 15 minutes and another energetic track could have been added.

― Patrick South (Patrick South), Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

ian i think i am thinking of a different necks! tho dutch money does sound intriguing...

anyway i just mean even tho it's not face melting it's lovely. esp the first track, which reminds me of the last track on kila kila kila, except a lot more busy.

― ryan (ryan), Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

2 tracks is not an album fools

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Thursday, 30 September 2004 05:50 (twenty-one years ago)

43 minutes is kind of long for an ep, innit?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 30 September 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice to listen to, but hardly anything groundbreaking.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Also Seadrum is much, much more interesting than House of Sun which sounds like a successful version of one of George Harrison's experiments.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Why does it have to be groundbreaking?

― Rasputin Kitten (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd just like it if it was good.

it's not like VCN was 'groundbreaking' compared to super a(r)e

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, it's a lot like that.

― The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"Seadrum" is one of the best things they've ever done, "House of Sun" is just OK. I'm not dissapointed, though, 23 minutes of incredible music is a lot.

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not like VCN was 'groundbreaking' compared to super a(r)e

my thoughts are backwards

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Thursday, 30 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

im still torn between tracks, but undoubtedly a great release. as far as i have heard, the singing at the beginning of seadrum is the best singing on a boredoms record.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 30 September 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

House of Sun wouldn't sound out of place in the middle of that Kinski/AMT split from a year or 2 ago.

I don't mean that as a compliment.

― chëshy (chëshy f cat), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i liked the AMT track on that.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 30 September 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I liked "Fell Asleep on Your Lawn"

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

when I said it wouldn't sound out of place "in the middle" of that release, I meant literally the droney B or C sides.

I think the difference between the new Boredoms album and their previous minimal outings (at least the ones I've heard like Super Roots 7) is that the previous stuff still had movement from point A to B to C. The new one just stays in one place.

― chëshy (chëshy f cat), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

mark r OTM -- has anyone tried (as i have) to play BOTH TRACKS AT THE SAME TIME?!? the album's its own wizard of oz.

― Nick Sylvester, Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

one track is exactly 3 minutes longer than the other... mmm

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure my brain can handle both of these at the same time.

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's great. both tracks.... so it's not a radical leap into the unknown for them but it's still fucking great. the rhythmic shifts a few minutes into seadrum though are amongst the best things they've ever put to tape.

― simon 803 (simon 803), Friday, 1 October 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

we want more

― Professor Challenger (ex machina), Friday, 1 October 2004 16:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm no noize freak, but this is a really good album. "Seadrum" is probably the most incredible production I've heard all year. I can't even imagine how one would attempt to reproduce something like that. Now I want a sequel.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 1 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

seadrum really is, as aquarius says, the boredoms in their alice coltrane mode. how do you think they play those piano runs so fast and fluid and stay in key (or not get dissonant)? do you think they're just running their hands up and down the white keys?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's probably all MIDI programming.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

black keys

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 14 October 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

mike garson

― willem (willem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably recorded Art Tatum via seance.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you all downloaded it or has it been released outside of Japan yet? I'm not all updated. Really wanna hear it though.

― strom (strom), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

downloaded, but i've just ordered it last week. (if you don't have the possibility to download i'd be happy to burn and send it to you, strom)

― willem (willem), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, willem, but no need to. I found it on slsk already. Shouldn't Amazon pick up on it sooner or later?

― strom (strom), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

they're selling it at select online places in the states for 30ish $

i got it at the pitchfork backdoor *bad jason*

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

www.yesasia.com has it - not sure if othermusic has it, but i think they did at some point.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

select being aquarius, othermusic and FE.org

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 14 October 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking black keys too, Dominique. But it seems too perfectly precise and almost unhuman. However, if they hired a world-class professional piano player, it could be possible.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Or they could have just jacked the tempo up on a digital keyboard, for ex.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ding ding ding

― kephm (kephm), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Well duh, I had already mentioned that it sounded like it was programmed.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Could be one of those MIDI pianos, like Aphex Twin used on drukqs.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought black keys the first time I heard it. But, I felt guilty for caring - I mean, there's no law that says a long black keys piano solo can't be good. However, the other day I was messing around on my keyboard, and turned up the reverb, put on a piano patch and started doing big black key glissandos. Voila, Seadrum.

I think the record is pretty disappointing. The piano really does go on too long, with not enough variation. I can try to convince myself that the two songs are better heard as live jams, but even then, they seem *too long*. I suspect these were throwaways recorded a long time ago, because they don't even sound like what Vooredoms have been playing live for the past few years.

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Dominique OTM about the black key glissandos. The thing is, they had to have at least two people playing the piano at once, or two people playing two pianos - more likely, the pianist stuck two tracks of him/herself doing keys on top of each other. It would definitely not be out of the realm of possiblity, and might explain the seemed precision.

― lemin (lemin), Thursday, 14 October 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Well the vocals are layered so why not piano

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Thursday, 14 October 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i got my pre-order from yesasia last week. Packaging isn't as neat as the first limited VCN thing but the case is a neat blue glittery plastic. Keeping mine in the plastic wrap cuz there's a big neat BOREDOMS sticker on the outside that I couldn't simply throw away.

haven't had time yet to sit down and listen to it though. Maybe this weekend.

― jsk baby (jsk baby), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

ok, seadrum is really good i think, can't really argue with pianos like that.

house of sun was really annoying

― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 14 January 2005 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

just came across this: Yellow Magic Orchestra - "Cosmic Surfin" (eYe remix). it's good

― contribute, Friday, 14 January 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

weird, i JUST GOT THAT TOO off someone on slsk.

also: super sky / super 77 queued!

also: new recording on the way, reported here:

boredoms in tokyo?

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

um, is that an, uh, Willie Nelson 'interpellation' on the new Boredoms record, or is it just a co-incidence?

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

also: Fischerspooner 'Odyssey'

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that piano is wikkid

― Awesome Welles (nordicskilla), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - what's super sky/super 77?

i need to get slsk. limewire doesn't have any of the super roots shit. however i did just find Z-Rock Hawaii tracks, totally forgot about this record.

― contribute, Friday, 14 January 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad to the Bone!

uh, hang on for b0r3link:

http://circlewithadot.run-ino-run.net/boredoms/

the discography there covers japan only 12"s

some discussion here:

GOOD HIPPIE MUSIC

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Friday, 14 January 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

I love this album.

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 22 May 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"seadrum" is very reminiscent of alan silva's early work, right? i am thinking particularly of dave burrell's piano work on "skillfullness" and the overall vibe of "solestrial communications"

― vahid (vahid), Sunday, 22 May 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I can see that I will need to listen to it more

― autovac (autovac), Monday, 23 May 2005 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

still can't find the cosmic surfin' remix...

― Beta (abeta), Monday, 23 May 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Coming this Thursday to NYC! See you there!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 May 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Wednesday.

― You're jumping to conclusions my friend!!!! (ex machina), Monday, 23 May 2005 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, _I'M_ going Thursday. So there.
It's less likely to be a good show, but who knows. Maybe they'll surprise me.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 May 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...

"seadrum" is very reminiscent of alan silva's early work, right?

It really is, reminds me not only of Skillfullness but also the BYG/Actuel 3 LP. Boredoms version is a nice aggressive update. Silva's compositions and playing emit these big washes of sound, like he was trying to fill a lot of space. "Seadrum" with the left channel/right channel migration does the same thing. It's really well mixed.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the piano stuff is similar to the recent Necks album. Maybe other Necks stuff, too, not really sure.

― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

:-)

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 02:46 (twenty-one years ago)

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